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Punk rock[edit]

I don't see why punk rock keeps getting taken off of his genres. Can someone explain their side of this? ISeriouslyNeedALife (talk) 21:00, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Your statement here is literally the very first time I have ever heard Cobain described as punk rock. His genre was grunge. If you can find a source to support this, then that would prevent it from being removed. (talk) 05:52, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
  • He definately is a punk rock because in interviews considers him self to be a punk rocker and in the profile it says nirvana popularized punk, post-punk, and indie rock. plus he always admired punk in his quotes 15 August 2010
  • He was 100% punk rock in philosophy if not music. His motto was, at least at one point; "Punk rock is freedom" --Connelly90[AlbaGuBràth] (talk) 13:38, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
  • kurt cobain said himself that it was punk rock, the image of true punk rock has just been distorted so much that people think its grunge! —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:18, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

> honestly his genre was considered grundge even though he didnt like to be labeled, grundge was best known for a sad kinda dark vibe filled with lyrics unknown to some eyes, he wasnt punk rock at all he just came from it and brought a new genre of music to the world - Gio Jacobs —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:09, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

I agree with the above; that he was deffinatly grunge and the inclusion of punk rock into his genres is probably not appropriate, however, I do think that it should get a mention somewhere in the article that he was heavily influenced by punk rock, so that stuff should stay. --Connelly90[AlbaGuBràth] (talk) 13:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Grunge was a term the media came up with, punk rock absolutely influenced Nirvana.-- (talk) 08:25, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

>I agree Punk Rock should definitely be included. Even if you don't think any Nirvana songs are close to being Punk, Fecal Matter was Punk so it should be mentioned. Nirvana wasn't the only thing Kurt was ever a part of. Kurt himself constantly mentioned Punk in interviews and refereed to his own music as Punk. He accepted the term Grunge but rarley ever refereed to himself as such. Borinquen252 (talk) 22:21, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Anyone who thinks that Nirvana wasn't a PUNK BAND needs to watch the documentary called "1991: The Year Punk Broke". Nirvana is one of the bands. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:34, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

As already mentioned this is a Kurt Cobain page not a Nirvana page and Kurt was in a Punk band Called Fecal Matter prior to Nirvana Skit85 (talk) 12:55, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, as previously stated Fecal Matter was considered a Punk band. Pretty sure Kurt Cobain had something to do with that band being the songwriter and all. He was in a Punk band. I don't get why putting Punk as a genre that he dabbled is such an absurd suggestion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Borinquen252 (talkcontribs) 04:09, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Kurdt/Kurt refereed to himself and all of his bands as Punk.. He never called himself Grunge, Society did! Therefore, The True "Genre" Should be Punk, but Grunge should also be mentioned. I think it should read Genre: Punk/Grunge as grunge is basically a sub-type of punk. Erik Nachtigahl (talk) 20:06, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

The Concert Photo of Kurt Cobain is Redundant and Should Be Replaced By a Straight-On Portrait[edit]

I created this portrait of Kurt Cobain to solve the issue of redundancy in this article. Does anyone have any objection to this portrait of Cobain replacing the first instance of the side-shot "Nirvana 1992"?

Kurt Cobain
I like the portrait but to use a painting when we have a real photo is nonsense. --Cyclopiatalk 13:23, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
When the original infobox image was deleted, someone just copied this band image to the infobox, leaving behind the 2nd copy. I just removed that one, as we generally do not repeat images in an article. As for the portrait...I'd really have to say no. While it's far better than anything I could paint, it looks more like a stereotypical 15-yr-old California skateboard kid than Cobain IMO. Outside of sex-related articles where it was deemed more practical to include artistic renderings rather than porn stills, I don't believe this sort of thing is done. Tarc (talk) 14:36, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
while it is hard to find PD photos of him, it isn't the common practice to make illustrations based on copyrighted photos and then try to use them. if it becomes widespread, we'll soon have all sorts of high-profile portrait photos (john lennon, michael jackson, elvis, etc) replaced by illustrations by ambitious artists hoping to promote themselves thru a celebrity's fame. except for user tarc's (above) example --and of course for historical figures alive before photography existed-- using artwork instead of photography is problematic. Cramyourspam (talk) 20:44, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

that picture that's up there now is horrible, can't somebody change it to a normal picture of him? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spaceman1978 (talkcontribs) 09:11, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 February 2014[edit]

Kurt Cobain worked at the "Polynesian Inn Resort", not a "Polynesian coastal resort". (talk) 22:04, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

The source used says "Kurt got a job at the Polynesian Hotel in Ocean Shores, a coastal resort about twenty miles from Aberdeen, as a janitor, fireplace cleaner, and "maintenance butt boy."" I can't find any reliable sources saying the resort was called "Polynesian Inn Resort" but I think it should be changed to either "Polynesian Hotel", "Polynesian Hotel, a coastal resort" or "a coastal resort". Littlecarmen (talk) 23:05, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
Done According to the resort's own website,, it is called "The Polynesian Resort" and I've updated the article to be more clear. — {{U|Technical 13}} (tec) 19:25, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Pages 43 and 44 of Kurt Cobain Journals, he has handwritten his resume, to wit: page 43 at top labeled "Part time janitorial position in the Olympian newspaper" "1 year at Polynesian Condominium Resort in Ocean Shores 4.00/hr Nov". Page 44: "Polynesian Condominium Hotel Resort Ocean Shores $5.00/hr // Sept - 86 -- June 87 c/o Betty Kaales (housekeeping) // maintenance basic odd jobs, windows carpet cleaning. Moved to Olympia" He also lists several other places of employment covering Sept 85 to Feb 88 including at the Lamplighter Restaurant as a dishwasher, prep, clean up, busperson; Aberdeen YMCA lifeguard; Polynesian Condominium Hotel Resort; Lemons Janitorial. Additionally on page 43 he lists Weatherwax High School --submitted by Helen Satterlee, July 5, 2014, — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:15, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

THE PHOTOS WERE RELEASED by PD!!!!!!! Edit it![edit]

The police have been showing the photos over the past week or so.

heres one of the articles WITH pictures so don't say they won't be released because you don't know.

Yes, I saw them, as most people interested in this topic area probably have by now. If this is about the possible usage of the pics in this or similar articles, it'd probably depend on copyright law. Works created by the federal government are automatically entered into the public domain, but as far as I recall, individual states have different laws regarding this. So, there will have to be some research done to see what the situation is in Washington state, regarding works created by a state authority. Tarc (talk) 14:45, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

actually I'm saying this because the wiki page says they will not be released publicly but that's bullshit because they were in fact released to the public, I want it edited it so it states that they were released under "death" on k Kurts page. Spaceman1978 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spaceman1978 (talkcontribs) 09:08, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 May 2014[edit] (talk) 10:26, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Request appears to be empty. Please re-submit. Tarc (talk) 13:13, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Kurt Cobain's picture[edit]

Please update the concert picture of Kurt. It isn't the greatest picture of him and he is hardly visible. If you're open to suggestion here is a link to his MTV'S Live and Loud concert thank you, I am a big fan of Kurt Cobain and would only like his image to be expressed loudly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ddinkins94 (talkcontribs)

We can't use copyrighted images when freely-licensed alternatives exist, sorry. Tarc (talk) 04:13, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
A more reasonable suggestion would be to simply stop using this image as he's barely recognizable here. Unless, of course, you can find an appropriately licensed photograph that's better. I've found absolutely no satisfactory freely-licensed photographs of him and if there aren't any now, there won't be any ever. 93 17:29, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Kurt's Favourite Cigarette Brands[edit]

I have been curious to find the exact brands of cigarettes Kurt Preferred for many years now and have managed to find the answer on the Benson & Hedges wikipedia page. "Kurt Cobain of Nirvana smoked Benson & Hedges Ultra Light Menthols as well as Winston Lights 100s." I'm thinking this could be added to Kurt's Wiki Article somewhere so other people who are curious about all aspects of his life dont have to look so hard to find this. Thanks, Erik Nachtigahl.

Erik Nachtigahl (talk) 19:57, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 August 2014[edit]



Ryan B Charlotte, NC

2600:1004:B009:C79C:64AD:A705:C624:1FCF (talk) 00:23, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: I do not think can be treated as reliable. I checked the existing source, and 1983 is clearly listed and the concert is in the chapter pertaining to that year. -- ferret (talk) 20:23, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Wrong language[edit]

I'm not a member, and I'm pretty sure I can't edit, but it says that Kurt's mother was "(née Fradenburg)". Nee (with the accent) is French for born but this is an English article so could somebody fix that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:19, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

It appears that "née" is the accepted term in English-language contexts as well. Regards,--Soulparadox (talk) 01:53, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 April 2015[edit]

In the intro of the page, it says that Kurt died on the 8th of april, while he actually died on the 5th LodeP1 (talk) 17:18, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Kharkiv07Talk 17:39, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 May 2015[edit]

Although uninterested in sports, ....

Replace "disinterested" with "uninterested." Misuse of "disinterested" I believe. Kinrossus (talk) 00:12, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done --I am k6ka Talk to me! See what I have done 01:19, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

The following reads like an opinion and should be removed.[edit]

This- He challenged Nirvana's audience with its final studio album In Utero (1993). It did not match the sales figures of Nevermind but was still a critical and commercial success. Reads like an opinion and should be removed. Also using the word he, shouldn't the sentence start with Cobain, instead of he? And where is the proof that he was challenging the audience? (talk) 17:38, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Removed; while the statement in the lead was supported by information later in the article, neither occurrence was sourced. DonIago (talk) 13:14, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Edit request: correct Kurt's age at time of his parents' divorce, in "Early life" section[edit]

Our source, Charles R. Cross's biography Heavier Than Heaven says Kurt was nine years old when his parents divorced, not seven years old. It's our footnote number 7, page 20. I can't confirm the page number from Googlebooks preview because there are no page numbers, but it's on the 4th page of Chapter 2. Can someone check it out and correct the error? Thanks. (talk) 18:42, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

I actually have this book, but not with me at the moment. Will check tonight. Tarc (talk) 18:57, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, Tarc. (talk) 20:11, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
According to Cross, the divorce was finalized on July 9th, 1976. Fixed. Tarc (talk) 12:16, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
Thank you again, Tarc. (talk) 05:18, 17 May 2015 (UTC)