Talk:Manuel Komnenos (son of Andronikos I)

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A fact from Manuel Komnenos (son of Andronikos I) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 28 November 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that although he was the eldest son of Byzantine emperor Andronikos I Komnenos, Manuel Komnenos was not named as heir, as he opposed his father's policies?

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Manuel Komnenos (son of Andronikos I)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Gog the Mild (talk · contribs) 12:58, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"File:Manuel1 Marie.jpg" needs a US PD tag.
- Done.
Caption: "Miniature portrait of Andronikos I (from a 15th-century codex containing a copy of the Extracts of History by Joannes Zonaras". Either remove the opening parenthesis or add a closing one.
- Done.
Infobox: "after" should have a capital A.
- Done.
"The name and identity of his mother are unknown". Would not 'The identity of his mother is unknown' convey the same information?
- Quite right, changed..
Link Georgian, chronicler
- Georgian is already linked earlier, done re chronicler.
Cite 41 has a hyphen in the page range!!
- Fixed.

Hi Gog the Mild, done. Anything else? As usual, any comments beyond GA requirements would be welcome, esp. regarding comprehensibility. I would like to push this up to FA eventually. Constantine ✍ 09:07, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Constantine, it reads fine to me. As you probably gathered, I could find very little to pick at. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:21, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Gog the Mild: Great to hear! Thanks again, and stay healthy! Constantine ✍ 10:01, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 19:31, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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... that although he was the oldest son of Byzantine emperor Andronikos I Komnenos, Manuel Komnenos was not named as heir, as he opposed his father's policies? Source: Varzos 1984b p. 518: "Για τον Μανουήλ Κ. 161 μαθαίνομε πως απ' την αρχή που ανέλαβε την εξουσία ο πατέρας του, αντιτάχτηκε στην πολιτική του και πως καθόλου δε συμφωνούσε με τα 'ανομήματά' του" p. 520: "ανάδειξε σε βασιλέα κάτω απ' την ροπή του προαγορεύματος ΑΙΜΑ το δευτερότοκο γιο του Ιωάννη Κ. 162, κι όχι τον πρωτότοκο Μανουήλ Κ. 161, και λόγω του προαγορεύματος αλλά και γιατί αυτός ο δεύτερος αποδοκίμαζε την πολιτική του κια απεχθανόταν τα έργα του."

Reviewed: Johannes Chum

Improved to Good Article status by Cplakidas (talk). Self-nominated at 10:11, 15 November 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Starting review —valereee (talk) 15:59, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: —valereee (talk) 15:59, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hook support sentence needs a citation: Although widely acknowledged as more capable than his brother, Manuel was bypassed due to his opposition, although officially his father justified this choice with following the AIMA prophecy —valereee (talk) 15:59, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Valereee: reference added directly after the sentence, and QPQ done. Constantine ✍ 08:33, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go! —valereee (talk) 10:18, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]