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A fact from Maung O appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 21 November 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Maung O, Prince of Salin, and his sister Nanmadaw Me Nu became de facto rulers of Burma when King Bagyidaw was suffering from depression?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2022/November. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Maung O.

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 23:59, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Maung O, Prince of Salin, became the de facto ruler of Burma when King Bagyidaw was suffering from depression? Source: "Nanmadaw Mei Nu versus Phalankhon". Myanmar DigitalNews. 17 August 2019. or Pollak, Oliver B. (1976). "Crisis of Kingship: Dynasticism and Revolt in Burma, 1837-1852". Journal of Southeast Asian Studies. 7 (2): 187–196. ISSN 0022-4634.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hirsch Sommerhausen

Created by Taung Tan (talk). Self-nominated at 15:15, 31 October 2022 (UTC).[reply]

I'll review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:15, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Nice article. One issue, though. The sentence Then Prince Tharrawaddy raised a rebellion needs to have a reference at the end of it, as part of a rule stating each paragraph must have a citation at the end. Once a reference is added I can approve. Issues addressed. Good to go! BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:30, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

BeanieFan11 I've done. Cheer! Taung Tan (talk) 04:17, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:05, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@BeanieFan11 and Taung Tan: The citation in the hook doesn't say anything about depression. There's a source in the article which talks about that, but it's not cited to the correct sentence per Each fact in the hook must be supported in the article by at least one inline citation to a reliable source, appearing no later than the end of the sentence(s) offering that fact. Citations at the end of the paragraph are not sufficient. -- RoySmith (talk) 21:15, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RoySmith, the source can be found in many historical works, the one is Crisis of Kingship: Dynasticism and Revolt in Burma, 1837-1852 stated In early 1830's when Bagyidaw lapsed into depression and fits, Mai Nu and her brother maintained their ascendancy over the five-man Regency by... .Taung Tan (talk) 06:04, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@RoySmith: ???. The nomination open for too long. Pls cheaseck asap. Thanks Taung Tan (talk) 15:51, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Taung Tan DYK is a volunteer project and chronically under-staffed. By DYK standards, this nomination has been handled exceptionally quickly. You could help out by doing some additional reviews; there's a long list of backlogged submissions at WT:DYK#Older nominations needing DYK reviewers that need reviewers. In any case,

the source you added checks out so this is now ready to go. Thanks for submitting it. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:11, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I made a fix to this article to correct "the de facto ruler of Burma" to "He and Me Nu became the de facto rulers...", to match the sourcing and the body of the article, prior to the scheduled DYK run of this article, but this was reverted just now by Taung Tan. As such, I am reopening the nomination, because the article can't go to the main page with inaccuracies in it. The sourcing is clear that Maung O was not the sole de facto ruler, per issue also raised at WP:ERRORS by Dumelow. Please address this issue, or highlight if there is a misconception on my part, and then the nom can be reapproved. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 16:39, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm very confused about why it was reverted. SL93 (talk) 16:41, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, perhaps it's just a misunderstanding or something, but with the hook due to go live at midnight it's preferable to resolve any issues first, particularly as I've also tweaked the hook. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 17:06, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I'm misunderstanding your change. I've reverted. Best. Taung Tan (talk) 17:15, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

- OK thanks. Restoring tick following resolution of issue. — Amakuru (talk) 17:23, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wow!! you are a admin! Thanks for your help on my article. Taung Tan (talk) 17:26, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome, I was just responding to a report at WP:ERRORS and wanted to make the article as accurate as possible. Thanks to you for writing the article and submitting it for DYK. — Amakuru (talk) 17:31, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]