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Cure for Parkinson's

I don't doubt he'll be able to cure Parkinson's disease, but I don't think it will happen soon. We can only hope for the best and try to help him. Cbsteffen 03:06, 2 July 2007 (UTC)Cbsteffen

I don't doubt that many believe that embryonic stem cell research will hold the key to a cure for the disease, however a statement in the paragraph is worded like a POV if no link to external proof is given, "especially embryonic stem cell research, which many in the scientific community believe may one day help sufferers of Parkinson's and other debilitating illnesses" This is worded like an opinion, and should be rephrased or provided with external proof. Metamorphousthe 13:33, 27 August 2007 (UTC)


It's difficult not to cite opinion on an issue which is so governed by opinion in itself. And it's too bad, because the strange truth would be phrased like this: "the potential for treatment is there (in embyonic stem cell research), however the current U.S. administration will not invest time, intelligence, or money in the issue because of their individual religious beliefs,which don't necessarily reflect the beliefs of the American public and/or the rest of the living world." Of course, that would never fly in WikiLand. It's a veritable Catch 22. On a lighter note, nice work on this page everyone.Silver Dollar 15:50, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

I work at The Michael J. Fox Foundation for Parkinson's Research and I have just corrected a factual error on this page. The Foundation was not created only to support embryonic stem cell research, rather, to advance every promising path toward a cure for PD. This includes ESC research where it shows promise but ESC research is in fact a relatively small portion of our Foundation's research investments to date. For more information on our work, please visit our Foundation's Web site. My name is Holly Barkhymer and I am the associate director of communications for the Foundation. FoxFoundation (talk) 17:45, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Nancy McKeon

I know that during the mid-1980s Fox was in a highly publicized relationship with actress Nancy McKeon. I don't think I've the right tone in adding it to Fox's article. Anyone up for it? IndulgentReader (talk) 08:37, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Early Life

He didn't go to Burnaby South, he went to Burnaby Central. There is a theater named after him at Burnaby South because he donated money towards its construction, not because he attended that school. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.70.100.154 (talk) 22:04, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

i agree he didn't go to burnaby south, he went to burnaby central and dropped out due to his acting career, 14 july 2008

"Years active" in the infobox useful?

For some reason, unknown to me because an edit summary is never used, an editor keeps adding (example diff) "years active: 1970 to present". Aside from this not being in line with the info in the article (Birth year + first acting gig mention = about 1976), he has actually stopped and started his acting career due to PD. Does anyone else think this is useful in the infobox? R. Baley (talk) 04:51, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Dual Canadian-U.S. citizenship

The 1st paragraph under "Personal life, illness and advocacy" is about his dual Canadian-U.S. citizenship. Does this really belong here, with the wife and kids info? I would suggest moving this further down. 87.70.94.237 (talk) 17:49, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

WTF with the photo?

Why is there a dirty great photo of Big Mike Moore in the middle of this article? What is the significance to MJF? 21stCenturyGreenstuff (talk) 00:51, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Someone uploaded that photo over what it used to be, a picture of his hand prints. I've fixed it. T0lk (talk) 23:03, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I had sussed that, well done for fixing it though 21stCenturyGreenstuff (talk) 23:19, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
I'll be the first to say it: all of the photos are inaccurate. Clearly, we need animated .gif, otherwise it's misleading. 68.84.6.98 (talk) 08:08, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Featured Article

This article should be considered for a feature article. Or if it doesn't meet all standards someone tell me what needs to be fixed and i will do it, thanks 125.236.154.70 (talk) 00:16, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Teen wolf

Teen Wolf was not the 2nd highest grossing movie of 1985. Rambo 2 was. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.57.104.158 (talk) 06:17, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Horrendous writing

I was just reading through the 'post family ties' section and it is almost unreadable. Terrible grammar all over the place. It reads like a bad translation of something originally written in Japanese. I don't know if that extends to other sections as well, and I don't have the time or desire to fix it myself, but my god... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.79.79.49 (talk) 15:38, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

You are absolutly correct, the whole career section needs to be reedited. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.238.253.167 (talk) 07:20, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Needs a Filmography section

Every major actor has a filmography section on their wikipedia page. The lack of this is a major omission.Walterego (talk) 22:31, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Agreed, I will start working on one now. — CIS (talk | stalk) 22:34, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 Done. I've also revamped the page's organizational structure. — CIS (talk | stalk) 00:47, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

I also feel like this article needs an awards section, listing nominations and such, as many other major actor pages have, especially considering he's now won quite a few Emmy's, Golden Globe's, and now a Grammy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.12.14.171 (talk) 19:24, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Short?

Some say Michael J. Fox is short. It was said that in The Secret of My Success he needed a stepladder to use the urinal, but that sounds a damn lot like a joke, not a fact. 12.41.204.3 (talk) 17:10, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

mid-career

At his age, given that he is still working...it seems premature to label a specific period as "mid-career," it implies you have a pretty good idea of how soon his career will end. He may be in "mid-career" right now. Bustter (talk) 08:14, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

alcholic?

Among the tags at the bottom is "self-identified as an alcoholic." Is there any evidence for that? Uucp (talk) 19:04, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

about 3 quarters of the way down there is a ref to it Monkeymanman (talk) 16:58, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Michael J Fox Irish??

http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/story?id=2613377&page=1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.97.34.201 (talk) 00:24, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

that ref only says 'irish moms', it does not state he is irish. He was born a canadian, fact. Monkeymanman (talk) 14:04, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

There is no queston that he is Canadian but more so what is being said is that he is a "Canadian of Irish Ancestry" which is very obvious from the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.191.243.100 (talk) 16:16, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

i dont think thats appropriate with the given refs. Monkeymanman (talk) 17:47, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

The integrity of wikipedia has to be questioned if you are denying an obvious fact over pages of givens without any decent reference support. The fact that Foxs mother has some Irish identity is undeniable from this interview. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.97.34.201 (talk) 22:59, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

what? that he says 'irish moms' in the interview. He is canadian, that is undeniable. Do you have some form of reliable ref that has him stating that he is irish? As per Wikipedia:IRS and BLP Monkeymanman (talk) 23:04, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

These sites would claim that he's of Cornish descent: http://www.cornwallgb.com/cornwall_england_actors.html http://www.greaterkccornishsociety.com/Cornish_Connection_Jan_2010.pdf Bodrugan (talk) 00:50, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

I disagree that those refs are reliable, i have not read in any bio that this is true so i have my doubts. Monkeymanman (talk) 14:20, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Ten Things About... Michael J. Fox

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/news/a279374/ten-things-about-michael-j-fox.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.110.138.110 (talk) 19:21, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Need the Most Recent Photo of Michael J. Fox for the Infobox?

That 1988 photo is fine to keep. I am suggesting a more recent photo of Michael J. Fox to be a replacement of that 1988 photo; we can still keep both photos for this article. An uploader of the more recent photo must follow the regulations of copyrights, however. --Gh87 (talk) 19:07, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

i did look when i edited the article for GA status. Monkeymanman (talk) 20:02, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Archive 1Archive 2

Goldene Kamera

Today, he got in Germany the golden camera Award for his lifework (category: lifetime achievement award). Compare the German site of this article for sources. (-: --Soenke Rahn (talk) 23:37, 5 February 2011 (UTC) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0N1S51Crz8 --Soenke Rahn (talk) 15:37, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Picture

Aren't there any more recent pictures of him that could be used? He obviously looks somewhat different now than he did when the pictures in the article were taken. Tad Lincoln (talk) 19:43, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Check commons:Category:Michael J. Fox for other images you could use. I'm unsure which one would be the best but there are ones from 2011. Regards SoWhy 09:09, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
 Done --Rafael Wiki (talk) 00:28, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

MICHAEL J. FOX...

MICHAEL J. FOX RULES!!! (58.160.93.113 (talk) 10:23, 17 December 2012 (UTC))

Someone changed the birthday to 1959, and added a claim that Fox is the father of David Spade. Also, David Spade was linked to "Midget". I have fixed the link to David Spade, then made a little research and figured out the edits of user SubaruLion8000 was incorrect or unsupported by references. Then I reverted the article. Harzem (talk) 19:49, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Minor Edit Request

Under the section Acting Career > Early Career the internal link for "hip" should be changed to a piped internal link like so:

Hip < to > Hip

[[Hip]] < to > [[Hip_(slang)|Hip]] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.233.128.187 (talk • contribs) 04:31, 21 February 2013‎ (UTC)

 Done, thank you for noticing that. --Bongwarrior (talk) 05:01, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Photo

Can we find a better photo of Michael J. Fox? I am talking about the first photo, in the upper right corner. This photo is really bad. And he looks like Donald Trump in it. Matthijs J (talk) 18:00, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

I agree, he looks terrible in the photo. Perhaps there could be a photo of him from his new show put in the top. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brendenhows (talk • contribs) 02:39, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Michael j fox

The Michael J Fox article doesn't say anything about his new show The Michael J Fox Show. There is a The Michael J Fox Show article referencing the Michael J Fox article, but nothing the other way around.

Thank you.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.1.9.174 (talk) 17:08, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Should The Michael J. Fox Show be mentioned in the lead?

Even though it was immediately cancelled? Gendralman (talk) 20:19, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

god bless you Michael J Fox just watching one of your movies. happy Mother's Day to your wife. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.56.12.121 (talk) 19:35, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Move?

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Speedy procedural close. See Wikipedia:Splitting if you want to split his filmography. Wbm1058 (talk) 00:46, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Michael J. Fox → Michael J. Fox filmography –

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Health section?

Can you add a "Fox actually had taken a medicine for Parkinson's disease" line on the section's text? --182.191.184.143 (talk) 04:17, 30 June 2015 (UTC) 182 user.

In the opener

This sentence is uneditable, I'm trying to fix it but I can't, someone else do it, lol.


He was appointed anOfficer of the Order of Canada in 2010.[4]He was the best actor of all-time to bad he got diagnosed with Parkinson's disease — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.80.197.77 (talk) 10:48, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Better photo?

In the first photo to this article Michael Fox looks like he is reacting to something really unpleasant. Do anyone have a different, sharp photo of him taken in 2006 or later? I think it would be suitable to use a photo of him as middle-aged.

2015-12-31 Lena Synnerholm, Märsta, Sweden. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.114.144.9 (talk) 19:03, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Or a very recent ones Laceygirl101 (talk) 01:56, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Contradictory year of diagnosis statements

The intro states "Fox was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease in 1991 at age 29," and later it is said "After being privately diagnosed with Parkinson's Disease in 1991."

However, also stated is "Fox started displaying symptoms of early-onset Parkinson's disease in 1991 while shooting the movie Doc Hollywood, although he was not properly diagnosed until the next year," which would obviously make the year of diagnosis 1992. Which one is it?

I am a homosexual.

98.143.208.135 (talk) 06:22, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

He was considered to play Robin the Batman sidekick

I recall in 1983 how he was considered for the role of Robin (the Batman sidekick) in an addition of the franchise that never made it out of development hell, and according to this online source - "just might have had the boyish charm to pull it off" - and at the time I thought him a natural for the role too - https://batman-news.com/2013/07/04/10-batman-films-that-almost-happened/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr gobrien (talk • contribs) 15:28, 13 April 2019 (UTC)


"Mike J. Fox" listed at Redirects for discussion

Resolved
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An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Mike J. Fox. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:06, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Tartikoff Family ties comment

On Tartikoff wiki it states the message was ""Brandon, They wanted me to put a crow in here, but... Love and Kisses, Michael J." which actually makes more sense so I'm gonna change it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.147.96.2 (talk) 21:09, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

shouldn't there be something about Fox (and his foundation's) involvement in PPMI?

it seems strange that PPMI is not even mentioned on his page.

it is likely the most comprehensive database on cohorts with Parkinson's Disease, with sites and samples from across the world.

he is the driving force behind this 100M initiative: https://www.michaeljfox.org/ppmi-clinical-study and it is probably the definitive source for this kind of data.

The mission of PPMI is to identify one or more biomarkers of Parkinson’s disease progression. The discovery of a biomarker is a critical step in the development of new and better treatments for PD. This study is being sponsored by The Michael J. Fox Foundation for Parkinson's Research.

not sure if this effort has to result in some kind of breakthrough to be noteworthy on his page, but it is certainly hard to argue he has not spent the money to warrant its mention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.53.109.35 (talk) 23:04, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Comedian

I know his career section says nothing about him doing comedy throughout his career, but is it ok if we can restore it back as his occupation? Because there are mostly times that he’s known for being funny, because there are some shows and films he did that were comedy. Especially Back to the Future, the filmmakers wanted someone who is good at comedy and everything and that’s why they replace Eric Stoltz with Fox, because they wanted someone who could make the audience laugh. So is it ok if we reinclued this again? 73.61.18.200 (talk) 16:03, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

WP:RS? Being a comedian and doing comedy films are two very different things. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 16:15, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Well... I guess that makes sense. I’m just saying there are some occasional times were he was known for being funny. 73.61.19.30 (talk) 16:22, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

The lead should probably say that he's best known for comedy films and television. But, yes, that is different from "being a comedian" which in contemporary English largely implies a professional focus on standup or sketch comedy.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  21:07, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

First line

@Moxy: The source mentioned in this edit describes him as "Canadian-American actor". Could you explain the reasoning for the "Canadian-born U.S. citizen" wording? Hrodvarsson (talk) 05:07, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

For clarity.....we have a problem with Americans not understanding what nationality is...andding Canadian-American to top level actors at random...but not minor ones Jason Priestley or Leonard Cohen. or Paul Anka. We dont see this stuff on other articles like Albert Einstein.or Oscar de la Renta or Christiane Amanpour or Hamdi Ulukaya or Mario J. Molina. Last debates on the matter resulted in the wording seen at Mike Myers Andrew Grove and Frank Gehry that are factually correct with no undue weight to citizenships over nationally.--Moxy 🍁 06:16, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
I had no involvement in those previous discussions. I am just going by MOS:CONTEXTBIO. If other nationalities are relevant to mention in the lead, I don't see why it should be expressed in a contorted way such as "Canadian-born U.S. citizen actor". As I said, the "Canadian-American actor" wording is also used by the source you mentioned in the edit summary, so I still do not see the rationale for the reversion. Hrodvarsson (talk) 04:29, 6 December 2019 (UTC)


Moxy - I'm not sure why you're claiming that it's "hard to deal with Americans that don't understand what this means", in reference to his nationality. I'm from Canada. I'm not American. So why can't we describe him as being "Canadian-American"? As Hrodvarsson pointed out it's not going against any Wikipedia rules AFAIK, he has dual citizenship and he still identifies himself as being Canadian (as pointed out in the sources in the second paragraph below). Also, shouldn't there be a WP:RFC to see what other users feel his lede should say (either Canadian, Canadian-born American or Canadian-American or whatever else users want)? As it stands, I see no WP:Consensus reached on what his lede sentence should say unless you can point it out. The archives for his talk page don't seem to show any resolved conclusion either.

He has been described as being Canadian-American before: "The Canadian-American actor", and several sources state he has dual citizenship (EDIT: The Hollywood Reporter says he became a U.S citizen in 2000): [1][2]. Even if he has been more notable in America and currently resides there, [3], as well as saying, when asked in a NYT interview about any plans of ever moving back to Canada [4]: "I built a life here and became a citizen so I could vote,” he said. “And now I want to be here to help fix what’s going on. There’s a cleansing happening. Things are going to get better," he still describes himself as being "Canadian" [5]: "There's something I have about being Canadian — there's a distance it gives you when you live in the States and operate in American culture. You approach familiar things a different way; you come at it from a different angle. It's a trait that runs through a lot Canadian artists' work and actors' work and musicians' — that kind of special remove." And here [6] Here's an archive in case: Fox is a dual citizen but still identifies strongly as a Canadian ... "I became an American citizen … mostly because I had children and I wanted to vote and I wanted to have a say in what's going on, which as you can see is very crucial right now," he said. "But … let's put it in these terms: When I watch hockey and it's Canada against the U.S., it's no question – I'm cheering for Canada. I have the red and white on. And my references are all Canadian and my influences are all Canadian, so I think of myself as Canadian first." Clear Looking Glass (talk) 00:25, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Canadian Wikipedians' notice board#Canadian-American label.--Moxy- 00:40, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Since a subjects nationality in the lede is based on a case by base basis, I think I'll do a RfC to get other opinions. Also, I've replied to your discussion and I'm not sure you can set a standard for Canadians who also have American citizenship. There's already countless debates and discussion about many notable people who have multiple citizenship. Clear Looking Glass (talk) 05:27, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
If only people understood the difference between nationality and citizenship beginner level read'. O well not here to hold people's hands.--Moxy- 00:48, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
At some point all we can do is hope that in the future ediotrs have a better understanding of what the terms mean. As seen below for some odd reason people equate citizenship and nationality as the same. Luckily this guy doesn't hold for 5 citizenships.
Yeah, the condescending strawman subposts you are making are not getting you anywhere given MOS:CONTEXTBIO. I understand the difference between the two, and I believe citizenship should be given greater weight than nationality under that guideline. Morbidthoughts (talk) 10:37, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
This lead sentence is not a record of Fox's nationality or citizenship. It is an introduction to an encyclopaedia article that needs to introduce the subject succinctly in terms that the lay reader best understands. Discussion about how he came about to have Canadian/American citizenship or nationality, or the difference between them (if really necessary), is best left to the article body. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 12:46, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

RFC: Lead sentence

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Consensus was reached to refer to Michael J. Fox as a Canadian-American in the lede sentence. (non-admin closure) Heart (talk) 05:02, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

How should the lede sentence refer to Michael J. Fox? Recently, there has been debate on what his lede should say, and I thought I'd get more opinions on this. Fox was born and raised in Canada, has dual Canadian and American citizenship, becoming a U.S citizen in 2000, and has been described as being "Canadian-American". Fox still "strongly identifies" as being Canadian, but has acknowledged also having American citizenship (he's used it to vote) and currently resides in the United States.

  1. Canadian-American
  2. Canadian-born American
  3. Canadian and American
  4. Other? (for ex. - "Canadian-born" only) Clear Looking Glass (talk) 06:36, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
America is not based on ethnicity. Hence why it is common for immigrants to become citizens and become naturalized. One does not have to be 'ethnically America", no such thing. Eccekevin (talk) 03:37, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
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First rose to prominence...

The article states that he first rose to prominence in "Family Ties". Could it be that he first rose to prominence in the US in "Family Ties", and in the rest of the world in "Back to the Future!"? Francis Hannaway (talk) 11:09, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Years Active

Should his years active not be shifted to 2023? Obviously he retired in 2020, however he did voice acting for Back Home Again in 2021 and just released his documentary Still: A Michael J.Fox Movie in 2023. I'd argue that he's still actively acting in some capacity? Lyeuhm (talk) 00:39, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Five children

Fox has four children with his current wife, but I saw an interview with him by the CBC - it's on YouTube but maybe you want to see if there are other, clearer sources where he states that he was in relationship with a beautiful, brilliant young up and coming actress (his words) and, again in his words, he states, "I made her a single parent" and the goes on to express his regret.

Given that he made this statement - and you can see him do it but it's a little hard to follow thanks to the Parkinson's dyskenisa - it is surely noteworthy. Someone with a better ear than I have might be well to acturately transcribe it.

Video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFts5Qdrqt0 sorry I don't have the exact timestamp but there's probably other stuff that can be pulled from here as it's quite revealing and (to his credit) honest. 188.31.140.27 (talk) 15:40, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

He was talking about Tracy after the birth of their firstborn, Sam. He was working so much, he felt like she was a single mother. 142.90.10.112 (talk) 03:37, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
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