Talk:New York City Marathon

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External links[edit]

I've removed several links from the "External links" section, which were largely to charity organizations which use the Marathon as a fund-raising conduit. I'm all in favor of charities, but I removed the links because I don't think they offer readers any more information about the NYCM. If anyone has a better argument for keeping/including those links, please post; otherwise I will continue removing them when they appear. - Pjmorse 20:34, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

yay, and when can we remove the sponsorship logos? in essence it's making wikipedia an advertising platform, as sponsors could be mentioned without incluing graphical images of their logos at the top of the page. And if you walk around NYC talking about the "tata marathon," people will think you are talking about the Mermaid Parade 69.201.168.196 (talk) 13:06, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Largest Marathon in the world?[edit]

On the New york Marathon page it states that it is the largest Marthon in the World, however, the London Marathon page states that it is the largest marathon in the world. Does anyone know which one is correct?Gbarnes 5 12:45, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Marathon size is counted a number of different ways. The important ones are number of entrants (i.e. bib numbers assigned,) number of starters (how many of those actually cross the starting line,) and number of finishers (slightly smaller than number of starters.) NYCM is cagey about their number of entrants, because they have permits for a number of places (notably Fort Wadsworth at the start) which state a maximum number of people covered by the permit. The NYRR's Lebow-esque approach is to assign more bibs than the permits allow and count on field shrinkage to bring the number of starters under the permitted limit, but if they misjudge the amount of field shrinkage, they don't want to publicize it.
That said, a good place to research marathon sizes is the Road Running Information Center of Running USA. According to them, in 2005 (the most recent year of their statistics) the NYCM had 36,856 finishers; London had 35,260. I'll add that cite to the article. --Pjmorse 14:15, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Another factor related to "largest" is number of pirate runners, though this would have a little smaller impact than it does to other fun runs that lay claim to being "the largest". Mathmo Talk 07:03, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Chicago's wiki page also says it is the largest marathon in the world. Chicago is accepting 45,000 entries this year which is more than any other marathon. Even with no shows and DNFs this years Chicago my eclipse the number of finishers of NYC's 2006 marathon.
I'll fix Chicago's page unless it cites a source. If they have more finishers this year, obviously we'll have to change it back. --Pjmorse 20:20, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Youngest runner?[edit]

Did a quick google search, but couldn't find anything about this "Scott Black". Anybody have a reference? Thanks. Mathmo Talk 07:01, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

I've removed the reference as I couldn't find anything. If you are in doubt about the veracity of Wiki's content, and you do a legitimate search and find nothing then you can either put {{fact}} next to the statement, or simply remove it. If it is true then somebody will put it back, hopefully with a source. SilkTork *SilkyTalk 13:06, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

The Course[edit]

This un-referenced sentence really grates: "The New York Maraton is considerd by most professional runners as being the most testing and superior marathon in the world and vastly superior to London by quite some way." It doesn't help that the spelling's pretty awful. Without a quote from several professional runners it just looks like it's been added by someone who either either irrationally loves New York or dislikes London. Sas32 (talk) 14:11, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

In popular Culture[edit]

Could somebody include its being the theme of an episode of Seinfeld? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.205.178.227 (talk) 05:32, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Number of runners?[edit]

The intro states that "participation is limited to 37,000 entrants"; however, in the first paragraph, it says there were 43,659 finishers in 2009. Which is it? 166.82.169.51 (talk) 00:47, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Fixed CanadianLinuxUser (talk) 16:20, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Rosie Ruiz[edit]

I've seen some editing about Rosie with Cuban American, American and nothing. On her article Rosie Ruiz I find Cuban American so I'm using that. CanadianLinuxUser (talk) 16:19, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Mark Messier??[edit]

This seems like a vanity link. A 4 hour marathon isn't remotely extraordinary for someone 50 years old. (80 year old Ed Whitlock ran a 3:25) Lwiniarski (talk) 23:00, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! I just wanted to mention that. I am going to remove that, if his fanboys will let me. I can understand that so many people believe that someone at 50 years old can't be that fast/strong/etc.. But that's just because most 50 years olds have not done any sports for 30 years or more and are a little to heavily overweight. But there are many 50 years old that run faster marathon times than most 20 years olds (besides the fact that most 20 years olds wouldn't even be able to finish a marathon in less than 5 hours). --78.54.19.247 (talk) 15:31, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Just noticed that the page is protected so that nobody would try to remove the Mark Messier statement. Hopefully someone who can will remove it. Just some times from http://www.mastersathletics.net from other races: Gavin Stevens (Age Group 50-54): 2:32:14; Ed Whitlock (Age Group 75-79): 3:04:53. Ed Whitlock was at least 25 years older than Messier when he ran that time and he still finished about 1:10h faster! Just to add some perspective. --78.54.19.247 (talk) 15:44, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Route map[edit]

Please see the following links and help get a route map into this article:

Many thanks, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:23, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

deceptively hilly?[edit]

does deceptively hilly mean flat, or would that be deceptively flat? 69.201.168.196 (talk) 13:11, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

2012 New York City Marathon[edit]

Support Split - Article about 2012 New York City Marathon should be created to eliminate gap in years. Thoughts?--Jax 0677 (talk) 13:33, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Very Biased[edit]

I fail to see the relevance of listing the top American runners. Neither the Berlin nor the London marathon page mentions the host countries' top finishers. Peculiar that this only started in the 2003 marathon section, when Kenyan runners won; although the dominance of east African runners started in 1997 for the men and 2009 for the women, not that this seems to merit a mention, except in passing. Pearl2525 (talk) 14:01, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

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