Talk:400 Tactical Helicopter Squadron

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Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: move, including 427 Special Operations Aviation Squadron. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:11, 23 April 2011 (UTC) Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:11, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


No. 400 Squadron RCAF → 400 Tactical Helicopter Squadron — The articles on the squadrons should be at their modern titles rather than their Second World War titles. At this time I request the move of only the currently active squadrons, and I am using the Directorate of History and Heritage as the most authoritative source of correct official titles. Indefatigable (talk) 18:17, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support About time! I was going to do something like this, but I got distracted months ago. The only suggestion I would make is to get rid of the brackets. It may be part of the Official name, but I think WP:COMMONNAME applies in this case. We can add a redirect from the bracketed article name if necessary. Ng.j (talk) 18:58, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - provided all active squadrons are done. We have have piecemeal attempts to do one or two before and it made a mess. - Ahunt (talk) 19:19, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - guidelines mention "When a unit...has had multiple names over the course of its existence, the title should generally be the last name used; however, exceptions can be made in cases where the subject is clearly more commonly known by one of the previous names". Any of these units more famous in their Second World War incarnation?GraemeLeggett (talk) 19:46, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The only one I can think of is "Tiger" Sqn (424), but like most of the articles, there isn't really a lot there to work with. Of course, the fact that Canadians have a horrible time with military history doesn't help. If someone was to look up a sqn, it would most likely be in its current form. Ng.j (talk) 22:50, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


  • Support - also note if a squadron has a notable wartime history we can have two separate articles in time. Any reason why some modern names have brackets and some dont 405 Maritime Patrol or 407 (Maritime Patrol). Think they need to be the same format. MilborneOne (talk) 20:13, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    I guess the parentheses are due to bureaucratic inconsistency only, so I support yours and Ng.j's suggestion to drop them and use 407 Maritime Patrol Squadron and 412 Transport Squadron instead of my initial proposal. Indefatigable (talk) 21:30, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - may this not introduce confusion with squadrons with the same number in other Air Forces? JohnCD (talk) 21:44, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Append "(Canadian Air Force)" or similar to all the page names? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:13, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think that using the descriptor as is (Tactical Helicopter Squadron) will be fine. We could append (Canada) or (Canadian Forces), but technically there is no "Canadian Air Force", just Air Command. However, I think that we should avoid over-disambiguation. There are no conflicts with the name as is, and it should be very obvious in the lede that it is an article about a Canadian sqn. Ng.j (talk) 22:45, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The terminology is "Canada's Air Force"; see: Forces website. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 02:21, 13 April 2011 (UTC).[reply]
That's just marketing. See Canadian Forces Air Command, specifically the section on the 1968 unification of the Canadian Forces. Ng.j (talk) 04:07, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Almost all of the Sqns have been moved, except for 427 Special Operations Aviation Squadron which need an admin. Ng.j (talk) 21:27, 22 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

RCAF[edit]

I think some of you are behind the times. Someone in Canada had a sensible caption at last and the RCAF is now actually called RCAF again!!!! Hoorah, and boil looney lefties in oil.Petebutt (talk) 08:20, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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