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Notability?[edit]

I'm sorry, but I don't see why this restaurant is notable. There are no references establishing notability. Having a Michelin star is nice, but hardly makes a restaurant notable to society. I recommend that this article be deleted if no references in reliable sources showing notability are added. David Spector (talk) 21:06, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

References can be found: in addition to the Michelin guide, there's (The Guardian, Caterer and Hotelkeeper, AA, Lancashire Telegraph, The Telegraph, Hospitality and Catering News, The Cultivation of Taste: Chefs and the Organization of Fine Dining. Peter James (talk) 13:56, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

those, that are reliable sources and not reader comments, are mostly run of the mill restaurant reviews and lists of non-notable local food awards.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 14:40, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

AFDs for these have closed as "keep" or occasionally "no consensus" (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zafferano, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/De Echoput, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The House (restaurant), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nolet Het Reymerswale), and reviews in multiple national newspapers and guides are not run of the mill. The local newspaper reference isn't a list (it's primarily about the restaurant and the company that owns it) and none of the pages I linked to appear to be reader comments (only one of them, the Lancashire Telegraph, has any reader comments displaying at all, which I agree could not be used as sources). If you're looking for something to delete, see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Peerage and Baronetage#Proposed deletions - many articles with fewer sources there, and BLP issues as well as notability. Peter James (talk) 15:16, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 16 February 2022[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: move to Northcote, Langho. (closed by non-admin page mover) feminist🇺🇦 (talk) 04:06, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Northcote (hotel) → Northcote, Lancashire – Normal to DAB buildings by where not what, also may be ambiguous with Commons:Category:Northcote Hotel, Southsea, the Devon one and the East Riding of Yorkshire one is they are notable, alternatively move to Northcote (Lancashire) if brackets are better. Crouch, Swale (talk) 21:55, 14 February 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:45, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:10, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

- Not uncontroversial. Has previously been moved. --188.30.209.246 (talk) 23:17, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - The last move was also a bold move, not sure why that makes in controversial? Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:07, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    - The convention here (I don't think it's a formal rule?) is reverting bold moves is not controversial, but if moving to another location, if it's been moved before, it should got to full RM, because the previous mover thought it should be renamed to what they renamed it. -Kj cheetham (talk) 12:05, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      - For rural buildings as far as I'm aware unless like churches they have a strong tie to a settlement they are normally disambiguated by county if sufficient like other places per WP:UKPLACE. I'd also point out that it was a manor and is also a restaurant though the restaurant is arguably just a part of the hotel its self. Also generally its usual to use where not what a place is for disambiguation unless local disambiguation is needed in which case the place type is used such as Corfe Castle (village) or Elmley Castle (castle) otherwise like Halling, Kent, Soulby, Dacre and Jura, Scotland we use the higher level unit not the generic class Halling (village), Soulby (hamlet) and Jura (island). Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:10, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose. The current name is clearly preferable, as it identifies what it is, immediately aiding anyone looking for that subject. "Northcote, Lancashire" makes it look like a place. — Amakuru (talk) 12:24, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Amakuru and Kj cheetham:. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:10, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Move to Northcote, Langho. The place, not the county, is our usual disambiguator for buildings. See Category:Restaurants in Lancashire and Category:Hotels in Lancashire. Every one that needs disambiguating uses the place. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:08, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.