Talk:One Pound Fish Man

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Subject would be easier to understand if the article had a timeline — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matt me (talk • contribs) 23:27, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 30 April 2016[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Not moved per MOS:TM. Possibilites for a merge can be discussed in a new section. (non-admin closure) Anarchyte (work | talk) 06:45, 21 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

One Pound Fish Man → £1 Fish Man – This is how the name is stylized on his merchandise. – 2601:8C:4001:DCF4:79E4:D40D:3290:AD79 (talk) 19:21, 30 April 2016 (UTC) --Relisted. George Ho (talk) 06:23, 8 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@2601:8C:4001:DCF4:79E4:D40D:3290:AD79 and Clpo13: This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:34, 30 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • It doesn't; the only requirement is for a redirect if it is used. Peter James (talk) 17:42, 1 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose MOS:TM special characters used, which cannot be used unless you have a UK keyboard, which most of the English speaking world does not use, especially such places that use dollars, like Australia, Canada, USA and have "$" on their keyboards -- 70.51.46.195 (talk) 06:01, 1 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's standard English and not a stylisation, and I would prefer it to avoid the ambiguity of "pound". Whether it's on the keyboard isn't relevant when deciding what to call the article, only that if such a character is used that a redirect exists from a title without it - similar to diacritics or the en dash (which is recommended by the manual of style). In this case I would oppose just because more sources use "pound", and it appears to be used more frequently by official sources. Peter James (talk) 17:42, 1 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Per Common Name; being from the US, I would never, ever, search for this using the Pound sign. GenQuest "Talk to Me" 17:37, 8 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support; American search concerns and WP:TSC seem fine so long as a redirect is in place. --McGeddon (talk) 17:44, 8 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Move to One Pound Fish man or Merge into One Pound Fish: I checked all twelve of the independent reliable sources cited in the article, and they primarily refer to him with "One Pound Fish", not "£1 Fish". "How the name is stylized on his merchandise" is irrelevant here (MOS:TM / WP:TITLETM), not to mention the difficulty of figuring out how to type "£" on many keyboards. Moreover, the word "man" seems like a descriptive term rather than part of a proper name; in many of the sources it is not capitalized or not consistently capitalized (and some of the sources overcapitalize in general, as when referring to "the One Pound Fish Song", which clearly should be "the One Pound Fish song"). Wikipedia generally avoids excess capitalization. In fact, this man seems to have no major degree of notability that is distinct from his being the singer of the One Pound Fish song and appearing in its video, which is rather obvious from the fact that he is best known as the One Pound Fish man, so really it would probably be best just to merge this content into the (currently rather bland) article about the song/video (WP:BLP1E / WP:BIO1E). —BarrelProof (talk) 14:04, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Has nothing do with the American this, British that. If this was the One Dollar Fish Man, we'd title the article that, not the "$1 Fish Man". It's a MOS:ABBR issue, at least in spirit: Don't use excessively abbreviated constructions, especially if not everyone is going to be able to parse them. The fact taht the title is a bit naturally ambiguous to people familiar with the pound as a unit of measurement is irrelevant; that ambiguity exists in the real world when ever this person's appellation is said aloud, yet there is it anyway. PS: It would not be partially lower-cased as "One Pound Fish man"; nicknames are capitalized as if real names.
    However, also support merge to One Pound Fish; these are two articles on the same topic, and the personality has no notability aside from the song.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  08:53, 13 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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