Talk:Plants vs. Zombies

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Good article on game's music.[edit]

[1] for a future development section. --MASEM (t) 16:09, 19 May 2009 (UTC)


Why does Laura Shigihara redirect to this page? Excusesofpuppets. 03/02/2011 (3rd Feb). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.96.84.33 (talk) 19:49, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Because her work on music is most notable in this game. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 20:57, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

No longer. It is now an separate article. ColderPalace1925 (talk) 10:28, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Platforms[edit]

I made a minor update to the article. At the beginning where it is stated what platforms the game is available for, iPhone OS and iPod touch were listed as separate platforms. This is unnecessary because iPod touch runs iPhone OS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.110.1.116 (talk) 04:21, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Gameplay[edit]

The gameplay featured in plants vs zombies is a example of a tower defence game. In the game you are required to keep a swarming wave of zombies from attacking your house and eating your brain by planting various types of plants ( hence the title " plants vs zombies ") that have specific abilitys to stop the zombies from invading yout house. Examples of these plants are Sunflower, Peashooter, Doom-shroom, Wall-nut, Kernel-pult, Hypno-shroom and Cob Cannon.

Review score section[edit]

@ New Age Retro Hippie

I don't know what your problem is, but your reasoning makes no sense of course. No sources? What are the websites mentioned?

And what's your fit with this game? Why are you not complaining about it at Halo_3#Reception, Metroid_Prime#Reception, The_Sims_3#Reception, Killzone_2#Reception, Black_(video_game)#Reception_.26_awards, Peggle#Reception etc. etc. etc. (you get the point).

This is a generally used template on Wikipedia, so it has just as much reason to be here as on any other webpage. If you have a fit with the template, take it up somewhere on Wikipedia, don't attack this page specifically.

~cheers GameLegend (talk) 13:44, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

"It's used here" is never an argument to use something everywhere. It serves no purpose other than to regurgitate information that does little to help readers understand the subject. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 15:45, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Cheats[edit]

Cheats would actually depend on the size of 'Tree of Wisdom" which can be found in the 'zen garden'. The 'tree' will grow one foot every time it is fed with fertilizer. A sack of fertilizer costs $2,500 in the game.

In the first few feet, several tips like plants best position will be given. Cheats like "strikedout" which will make the roof cleaners change their appearance. "future" will give the zombies some colorful sunglasses and 'mustache', which is self explanatory.

Once the tree of wisdom reaches 100 feet, the word 'daisies' can be type anytime during a game. The word 'boogie' can be typed during the game after the tree of wisdom reaches 500 feet. The zombies will actually dance, however it is a far cry from a boogie.

There are other cheats like "tohot", "pinata", "sukbhir", etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Agnosticpoet (talkcontribs) 10:01, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

B-class Assessment[edit]

1) The article is suitably referenced, with inline citations where necessary.

  • ClockCMostly Pass, although the gameplay section could use an additional citation or two using ref-names to make the referencing totally clear.

2) The article reasonably covers the topic, and does not contain obvious omissions or inaccuracies.

  • YesYPass.

3) The article has a defined structure.

  • NFail, the lead section requires expansion.

4) The article is reasonably well-written.

  • YesYPass, although in order to gain higher ratings than B-class, the large blocks of content under Gameplay and Development will need breaking up into sub-parts if possible.

5) The article contains supporting materials where appropriate.

  • YesYPass.

6) The article presents its content in an appropriately accessible way.

  • ClockCMostly Pass, a few terms such as hardcore gamer could be confusing to non-gamer readers. The development section specifically would benefit from a slight re-write with non-gamers in mind.

Hope this assessment helps, feel free to poke me on my talk page with comments and questions. --Taelus (talk) 10:48, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Article structure[edit]

I rearranged a bit the article structure, mainly defining subsections and moving sections into "Development"... take a look at the revision :)
(I didn't touch the lead section since I had no time to add new content, but it may be expanded a little as suggested in the preceding assessment) --WikiKiwi (talk) 02:00, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

“HD” Moniker[edit]

When I first heard of the iPad having better, HD graphics, I looked around to see what it looked like. However, to me, the iPad version looks like the PC (and presumably Mac) version, so I am guessing that by “HD”, they just mean it is better than the iPhone version, not the PC version. Is this correct? It would be nice if there was a specific reference/comparison to make the HD label clear. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Synetech (talkcontribs) 05:08, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

When the iPad came out, since the store is shared between all iOS devices, app developer started to label iPad-versions of their apps "xxx HD" to differentiate them from the iPhone version... it's kind of a "platform specific" labeling and it's not related to particularly High Definition content, but rather to the fact that the iPad screen is bigger than the iPhone's (and that's not not specific to PopCap, but it's a common terminology in the App Store ;) --WikiKiwi (askme) 06:07, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Changing Importance to mid[edit]

The importance criteria guide includes commercial success and recognition in culture. It lists Ratchet & Clank as an example. R&C top Facebook group has 10K members. P&Z Facebook group has 900K... mid importance is justified. Maurog 13:56, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

We need to let the VG project reassess the importance; that's not something that any editor can immediately do. --MASEM (t) 14:02, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Oh, by all means start the process running then :) You might want to add this information to the Importance Scale Help page as well, so that other people know the correct protocol. Maurog 05:53, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

External links, PvZ Wiki[edit]

About this revision: it's a noob question, but why the PvZ Wiki link got removed? Which rule is it breaking? --WikiKiwi (askme) 22:55, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

See WP:ELNO specifically between points 11 and 12. As best as I can tell, the PvZ wikia page has no special authority on the topic (compared to Memory Alpha or Wookiepedia, the typical examples used for this concept), so we should not include it. --MASEM (t) 13:49, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Ok, thanks a lot for the info! In this very specific case btw I would like to point out pt.12 of the WP:ELNO, which reads "...except those with a substantial history of stability and a substantial number of editors". While the PvZ Wiki may not be the largest community on the Internet (as the game isn't indeed), it's a very comprehensive guide, very detailed and well-written, almost anything about the game can be find in it. I'm really not going crazy for this, but in my opinion it may have the required quality level to be linked in the article (much more than many Official websites out there :P). --WikiKiwi (askme) 14:56, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Generally "substantial history" implies several years and numerous editors contributing. PVZ Wiki seems to be a year + change old, and appears to have a dozen editors at most (strictly going off a spt-check). That's really not substantial for purposes of that EL line. --MASEM (t) 15:10, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

PvZ in WoW: Cataclysm[edit]

PvZ was adapted into World of Warcraft's new expansion, Cataclysm, as "Peacebloom vs Ghouls". A non-combat pet earned from an achievement on the mini-game is the Singing Sunflower, voiced by Laura Shigihara, the singer on the PvZ video. Source: http://wow.joystiq.com/2010/09/20/singing-sunflower-companion-pet-voiced-by-laura-shigihara/ Source: http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/1979-Tier-11-Mini-Preview-Ghouls-vs-Peacebloom-Blue-PostsSolitha (talk) 05:14, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Already in the article. --MASEM (t) 05:55, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
Its not in the article that Laura Shigihara sings the voice. In fact she needs an article on her own. --IceHunter (talk) 21:13, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
It's stated she recorded new music for WOW, so this would include her own voice as she did with PvZ. --MASEM (t) 21:19, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

iPhone game of the year[edit]

Apple featured PvsZ as iPhone Game of the Year 2010, could someone add the info? I'm quite in a rush :)
http://www.macrumors.com/2010/12/09/itunes-rewind-highlights-the-best-of-2010/ --WikiKiwi (askme) 17:02, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Plants vs. Zombies Original Soundtrack[edit]

I would like to point out that there is a soundtrack for PvZ. Shigihara's Wordpress blog post Bandcamp link General AUS (talk) 08:24, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Awards[edit]

It was nominated for Best PC Game by the Spike Video Game Awards. This is pretty important, i think. --91.96.14.174 (talk) 06:42, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Lua?[edit]

This game is listed under the category of "Lua-scripted video games". What does Lua have to do with this game? --Karjam (talk) 09:46, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

I, therefore, decided to attempt to remove it from the category. If there's anything wrong with this, or I've made a mistake (I'm a beginner), please tell me. Karjam (talk) 13:53, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

Going for GA[edit]

I love the game, and aim to make Plants vs. Zombies a GA. You guys have do excellent work, and I would like to include you as co-nominators in GA review. --Philcha (talk) 12:48, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

I see 2 issues to fix for a start:

  • Replace {{VG Reviews}} with a standard infobox, as I know at least 2 sources that are WP:V Reliable Sources, but not shown in {{VG Reviews}}. And I'll add citations, as I'm a glutton for WP:V Smiley.svg --Philcha (talk) 12:48, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
  • In "Development", Fan's material is clearly Wikipedia:GAMEGUIDE#NOTHOWTO and must be removed from the articles text - but include it in "Exteral links", where it will help users. We have enough citations already to support a good of the game's behaviour. --Philcha (talk) 12:48, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm working it in a sandbox, so that messy intermediate changes don't show in the article. When I hope it's in OK but will space for improvements, I'll ask you to comment at the sandbox's Talk page. --Philcha (talk) 12:48, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Shoudn't there be a page for pvza?[edit]

Shoudn't there be a page for plants vs zombies adventures? (pvza).i would make one but i don't know how to create a page.plus i think you have to be autoconfimed anyways to make a page and i'm not autoconfimed. Wintermelon43 (talk) 18:06, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Slot machine[edit]

Regarding this, Spielo does not have a Wikipedia article showing its notability and the addition is sourced to what is essentially a press release. There is nothing to show the product's noteworthiness. --NeilN talk to me 02:42, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Agree. There would be something to add if the slot machine producer was notable to start, but without notability of them, this reads as promo (even if the intentions are not that of the editor) and trivial to add. If a third-party source notes this, that may also be reason to include. --MASEM (t) 02:47, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
WP:UNDUE coverage of trivium that no one cares about except the producer of the item. WP:SPS the sourcing is only appropriate for content that is not unduly self serving in an article about the company, neither of which applies here. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 11:42, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
Your interpretation of WP:SPS is bogus. It says Self-published and questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves, usually in articles about themselves or their activities. It says "usually". Not "only". Whether Spielo International is a redlink is neither here nor there, as Wikipedia's coverage of the casino gaming industry is abysmal—we don't have an article on Multimedia Games, a NASDAQ listed slot vendor, and Gemaco was only created this year. I could write an article on Spielo if I really wanted to, buuuuuut, I don't want to, so... —Scott5114 [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 06:40, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
You missed the qualifiers like "...the material is neither unduly self-serving..." For any popular franchises there are usually lots of licensees making everything from lunch boxes to caps. We're looking for independent coverage as we don't list stuff that has been simply slapped with a recognizable name. --NeilN talk to me 18:28, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
I agree with NeilN. This isn't the place for an indiscriminate list of product spin-offs. The article's primary focus is the game itself. Trivial details like this look out of place, and there is no justification as to why casino slot machines should be mentioned over the hundreds, if not thousands, of other products/merchandise with the PvZ name. --GoneIn60 (talk) 20:06, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Two things: it's not generally considered "unduly self-serving" to use a reference by the creator of a thing to support a fact about that thing. New Super Mario Bros. contains multiple references published by Nintendo, and that's a featured article. (Presumably if this violated WP:SPS the article wouldn't have passed the FA process.) As for why it's relevant...there's a big difference between mere memorabilia like a hat or a keychain and a slot machine, given that the latter is essentially a multimedia video game spinoff in its own right. (The slot machine uses graphics, sound, and game mechanics similar to that of the original game.) It also illustrates that Plants vs. Zombies is considered a well-known enough game that someone thinks a slot machine version of it would draw in customers. I would agree that a full-blown article on this slot machine title would be overdoing it, but frankly, I consider the level of opposition against a one sentence mention of the machine, as well as what appears to be the near-universal misunderstanding of what WP:SPS is attempting to accomplish, to be rather unbelievable. —Scott5114 [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 22:10, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
We have a non-notable company talking about a product that only they have written about. The only evidence this machine thus exists is from the company that has claimed to built it. That's nowhere near sufficient to meet WP:V's requirements for inclusion. This is exactly what SPS is designed to protect against. --MASEM (t) 22:15, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
[2]Scott5114 [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 22:22, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Also, just because it doesn't have a Wikipedia article doesn't mean it's not notable. It just means nobody has bothered to write an article yet. —Scott5114 [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 22:23, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
I found this [3] instead, that, 1) doesn't look like a presser reprint, and 2) notes that GTech is Spielo's owner, and we do have an article on GTech, so that gets rid of any COI issues. --MASEM (t) 22:29, 2 June 2014 (UTC)


Genre is also Action, Adventure[edit]

I think the genre is also action, adventure because in the game killing zombies is action and venturing forth in the game is an adventure. But User:Ferret has been arguing about the genre and says I am wrong. But I don't want to argue so I will provide a reliable source. Gameroffun (talk) 01:40, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Please lists any sources you have here. Understand that a single source from a directory type listing isn't really sufficient. The game's designers have constantly referred to it as a tower defense game. Your use of genres is relying on the most basic definition of the words "action" and "adventure" (You don't really "venture forth" anywhere in PvZ) -- ferret (talk) 01:43, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
Which is why I wanted you to list sources here first. A game store is not what Wikipedia views as a reliable source. -- ferret (talk) 01:52, 11 April 2015 (UTC)


Look, I do want to argue about this but I have already prooven that the game is action, arcade. Lets keep it as it is and get over it. Gameroffun (talk) 02:00, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Just because one store front lists is as such doesn't make it so. Storefronts are not reliable sources for game genres. The game also readily fails the basic common sense tests of being an "action" or a "adventure" game - it is a tower defense, a well-known casual example of one, and thus stays there. --MASEM (t) 04:19, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
Just for the record, "adventure game" does not mean games where you go on adventures - the term means "Colossal Cave Adventure-like game". --IDVtalk 04:56, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
@Gameroffun:, please familiarise yourself with Wikipedia's guidelines. Claims are based upon reliable sources. You're just adding your own opinion. Please stop, or you might get blocked. --Soetermans. T / C 11:59, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
@Gameroffun:, I don't appreciate being called an idiot, when I (and others too) are trying to communicate with you in a constructive manner. If you don't want to play nice, Wikipedia might not be the place for you. Now, there aren't any "facts" to face, we're asking you to come up with sources. --Soetermans. T / C 12:11, 11 April 2015 (UTC)


I am really sorry for what I said User:Soetermans please forgive me. I was really angry that time. I will be nice. And could you please tell me what reliable source wikipedia acepts? Thank you for removing my rude comment. Regards, Gameroffun (talk) 22:12, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

The reliable source guidelines are explained at WP:RS. Essentially sources with reputation for fact checking, accuracy and editorial oversight . -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 22:42, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
Apology accepted. The Red Pen of Doom is right, you'll find all the reliable sources you'll need. --Soetermans. T / C 18:28, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Spam[edit]

I removed spammy links added by a new user (who added similar links to dozens of other articles as well) and warned the user. While the info may be valid, the pattern of adding link after link to the same webpage suggests that the motive for adding the info has more to do with driving traffic and less to do with building an encyclopedia. If anyone wants the same info (Google play and Apple app store downloads of this game) those figures can be obtained elsewhere. Etamni | ✉   09:02, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

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