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Most Article Pictures are not of Streams or Brooks[edit]

There are captions for "creeks" and even a "river"!

A stream is none of these. The article should have pictures that reflects this, not rivers and broad creeks. (talk) 02:25, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

The pictures can always be improved, but I see nothing amiss with the current selection. Streams are a generic name that is given to small rivers. A creek is another name for a stream, widely used regionally in certain parts of the world. There is no generally accepted point where a stream or creek should be called a river. It's true that Perkiomen Creek, in the article, looks somewhat large for a stream, but it is tributary which flows into a larger river, and tributaries are often referred to as streams or creeks. Maybe at other times of the year, Perkiomen Creek is smaller than the version we see in the article. --Epipelagic (talk) 23:17, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
Even more, "stream" is a common generic term for all rivers, creeks, brooks, and so on, of all sizes. The page's second sentence points this out. Pfly (talk) 23:48, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Stream vs Watercourse[edit]

By the definition adopted by this page, what's the difference between a Stream and a Watercourse? The Watercourse page seems to assume that a stream is a small watercourse, whereas the Stream page does not seem to (any longer). If the two pages actually describe the same thing, shouldn't they be merged? Or if they describe different things, shouldn't the difference be clarified? I'm asking because that difference might matter for people trying to link these articles, via Wikidata, to the matching concepts of the Wikipedias in other languages, or of other projects such as OpenStreetMaps. The latter, as well as the Wikipedias in those few languages that I understand, map the "small river" concept to the "stream" page; the Merriam-Webster online dictionary and the Oxford English online dictionary agree with them. Peppepz (talk) 16:26, 29 November 2014 (UTC)


When does gully erosion become a stream? Gully erosion has a bed and bank. Is ephemeral. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:100E:B022:48A5:4C8E:86CA:8867:288 (talk) 17:56, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

That "low level stream in Macon County, Illinois"[edit]

....looks an awful lot like a sunken road that later became a stream, not a natural formation. Anmccaff (talk) 21:11, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 10 September 2017[edit]

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The result of the move request was: not moved. See also: WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. (non-admin closure) — nihlus kryik  (talk) 21:15, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

– I think it is time to consider moving the geographical subject away from the ambiguous title. The word "stream" is now being used quite often to refer to specific aspects of technology, most notably the concept present in Streaming media. The word "stream" can be used to describe streaming media, for example "Let's stream the music." At the present time, Streaming media receives an average of 2-4 times as many page views as Stream; in addition, the concept at Live streaming seems to have a quarter the amount of page views as the geographic concept. In other related cases, a product of technology has become such a popular topic that a geographic concept is not located at the base title, the most notable probably being Channel (geography) (which is why I'm recommending the current subject be moved with the disambiguator "(geography)".) Also, since the concept of streaming media does not seem to be going away any time soon, I do not see the popularity of streaming media being subject to WP:RECENTISM; unless technology somehow disappears from this planet suddenly, the technological use of the word "stream" will probably be popular for quite a while. Steel1943 (talk) 16:10, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

  • Oppose Popularity is not definition. The geographic sense is still obvious the original and primary meaning, even if there is now a fashion for music by streaming it. Andy Dingley (talk) 16:28, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
    • I apologize that my use of the word "popular" distracted from the emphasis on the rest of the facts I presented in my nomination statement as that was not my intent. I don't see why we should force readers to first view the geographical concept when they do not seem to be looking for that themselves, given the evolving uses of the word "stream". Steel1943 (talk) 16:36, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Apple, Poppy, etc. 'Streaming' video or music 'streams', per association with Stream. Randy Kryn (talk) 18:59, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
  • Comment would a merge to River be reasonable here? Neither article is so long as to prevent it, and much of this one is a list of other terms for small rivers. Beyond that, Creek and Brook are examples of how this is handled for similar terms (as a DAB). Power~enwiki (talk) 02:06, 11 September 2017 (UTC)at
    Row, Row, Row, your boat, gently down the River, merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, Life is but a Diver, so maybe not. Streams are kind of small river-like naturally occurring drains, but probably not commonly considered big enough to be rivers. The template/navbox also seems to differentiate the two in reasonable encyclopedic form. Randy Kryn (talk) 04:32, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
  • Move to Stream (watercourse)? ("Life is but a Diver"; scuba or hardhat?) Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:28, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
    Yes, evolutionary or designer genes and midge-parts plunging headlong into apparently a perfect dive to create the first trillion functioning cells. Forcing myself back on point, alternate names for 'Stream' don't seem needed ('Brook' is already an alternate name) as it seems to be primary in terms of familiarity and long-term application. The term 'Streaming' is directly based on the actions of water, rock and soil that we define as 'stream'. Changing 'stream' from the primary because something was named after it would be like redirecting 'Cloud' because another term has emerged which is dependent on our familiarity with the original. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:48, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose. The small river is still the primary topic. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:31, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

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