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This article was nominated for deletion on 2006 August 8. The result of the discussion was keep.
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Ah yeah but it's still the same editor who didn't want Syed Ahmed deletedd....uh....also UkPaolo's message makes me think that this is the ame message. I'll look into it right now and if it is the same page I'll readd the speedy delete tag. ForestH2 | + | √+ | √ | √- | -16:49, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You know what...I think I am going to add an afd message as the info is very little with only three sentences. This page should be merged. ForestH2 | + | √+ | √ | √- | -16:52, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
As I said, the old AFD was about some reality TV show character named Syed Ahmed, not an alleged terrorist :P I'm not sure what you mean by "same editor", I had nothing to do with the reality TV show article, I really only write articles about terrorist-related things. :) Sherurcij(talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject)16:41, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The only information affected by the ban would be on the Canadian case proper. There is very little here that elaborates on the connection, so even if this were an issue (hard to believe that a Canadian judge would have a world-wide Wiki reach), there is not enough in this article to evem trigger a Canadian court interest. Most of the information is about what amounts to an independent US indictment, based primarily on the information obtained from the defendants. They just happened to be connected to the Toronto group because they were involved in the same chat group and visited the Toronto people in an attempt to share information. The pair in Atlanta appear to be to young idiots who thought it would be "cool" to play terrorist, just like many of their neighbors might think that it is "cool" to be a drug dealer, or the same way college students think it's "cool" to be a Trotskist or a Maoist. That said, a number of newspaper articles mentioned that both suspects had become more religious shortly before the arrest. On the other hand, someone who's actually been radicalized, as opposed to "playing terrorist" would have done just the opposite of what these people did--they would have abstained from all the causes, ceased any discussion of terrorism, tried to blend in religious circles and started changing their lifestyle, friends, etc. Chances of these guys becoming actual terrorist are incredibly low, but they would have been able to do something incredibly thoughtless and stupid, like providing a casing video to actual terrorists. Had they been left alone, eventually they probably would have grown out of it, but it's too late now. I have no "personal knowledge" about the case at all--all my info comes from news sources, and I referenced it accordingly. Alex.deWitte (talk) 05:14, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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