Talk:Theresa Knorr
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[edit]The further reading section contains the two books written about Knorr. Optimally, these should be used as sources because information in the Crime Library article is taken from them. momoricks 09:07, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Much of the article as it stands is roughly confirmed in a Los Angeles Times article: Paddock, Richard C. (14 November 1993). "'Unbelievable' Tale Reveals Grisly Crimes". Los Angeles Times. Retrieved 29 Feb 2012. However, the devil is in the details. There are numerous minor discrepancies. I looked for other primary sources (newspapers etc.) and found only two more links to the case. One relates to a preliminary trial appearance: "MOTHER APPEARS IN COURT ON COUNTS OF KILLING CHILDREN". Deseret News (AP). 21 December 1993. Retrieved 29 February 2012. The other was written upon the production of the Wicked Attraction episode: Gee, Jenifer (21 December 2008). "'Wicked' Local Crime Documented". Auburn Journal. Short of re-writing the article, I was unsure how to legitimately incorporate these items, so I leave this note for anyone inclined to re-edit the article in depth.Tkotc (talk) 05:38, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
I'm skeptical that the "NowPublic" reference should be used. This seems little more than a blog page -- it even says it is "crowd sourced". It is based on two internet finds: (1) another source of questionable reliability, and (2) the truTV source that is already used in this article. I re-read the truTV article and noted that it supports the same fact that the NowPublic reference is used to support: that Terry was forced to burn the apartment. For what it's worth, Mrs Terry Groves Knorr Walker ("Terry") died 8 December 2011, and the Find-a-grave page for her has a rather lengthy autobiographical statement that may be of some use to someone trying to further research this article.Tkotc (talk) 07:49, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
Merge proposal
[edit]- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- The result was merge into this article due to lack of discussion. -- momoricks 21:38, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Murder of Suesan and Sheila Knorr should be merged into this article. Their notability is limited to their murders, therefore they don't satisfy notability requirements for a stand-alone article, per Wikipedia:Notability_(criminal_acts)#Victims. momoricks 09:19, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Movie
[edit]It seems the 2010 movie The Afflicted is based on this story. If my guess is correct then it would make sense to add some mention of the movie. --31.45.79.44 (talk) 17:56, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
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[edit]In the info box it should say that she has three victims not two since she murdered one of her husbands in 1964 even though she was acquitted of all charges Darren Cross (talk) 22:43, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
- "she murdered one of her husbands in 1964 even though she was acquitted of all charges" has to be one of the most moronic things I've read. WP:BLPCRIME.92.40.189.52 (talk) 23:01, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
- She openly admitted shooting him dead. She "claimed" self-defense in court. She was acquitted of "murder" but she still killed him with a rifle. 2600:6C5E:47F:E990:2154:82EA:34E:D257 (talk) 12:13, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
“On July 6, 1964, the day after Sanders' birthday, the couple were arguing because Sanders had spent his birthday out with friends instead of at home. During the argument, Sanders informed Theresa that he was leaving her. Theresa became enraged and shot Sanders in the back with a rifle as he was walking out the door”. She murdered him! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darren Cross (talk • contribs) 06:43, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Darren Cross is right it should say that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barbaro Reyes Cho (talk • contribs) 23:30, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- Darren Cross and Barbaro Reyes Cho are the same person; both are sockpuppets of Cadeken. If you deny it there will be an immediate sockpuppet investigation. Sundayclose (talk) 00:02, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
@Fences and windows: the BLP violating content was restored by 2600:1010:b125:808a:f8d9:1163:8bf4:a49c (talk · contribs · (/64) · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · http · block user · block log), whose editing history combined with the history of this article shows it is clearly Barbaro Reyes Cho (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) attempted to evade scrutiny, especially as Barbaro Reyes Cho added a serial killer category minutes later. 80.0.185.164 (talk) 08:42, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
@Fences and windows:, 2600:100f:b11c:d152:15a3:1f69:b99a:4019 (talk · contribs · (/64) · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) was making their usual attempt to claim she's guilty of a crime she's acquitted of, including a violation in the edit summary. Given the short time between their edit and those of Sothbxkbd (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) I'm guessing they are one and the same. 92.40.188.152 (talk) 07:27, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
There is a need for a rewrite on this page. There are OBVIOUS problems and grammatical errors. It appears someone is vandalizing this page, or a 15 year old kid is writing it. For starters, the writing quality under "Suesan's death" section is very unprofessional and poor. Read the entire paragraph. It sounds like a 15 year old high school kid wrote it. It isn't written in an encyclopedic way. Words like "mom" and phrases like "for a minute" and "just started hitting" sound strange. Also, where are the clear, concise sources for this. There are several books written about Theresa and most of the quotes found online report that Knorr shot Suesan and that she was placed in the bathtub for several days but survived. Later, Theresa tried to remove the bullet and Suesan became infected and only after that episode did Knorr burn her to death. The article is claiming Suesan bled to death at home, but the evidence I've seen show that Suesan was alive when set afire. There needs to be some clear writing and changes here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6C5E:47F:E990:2154:82EA:34E:D257 (talk) 12:41, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
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