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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that in "Trials and Tribble-ations", actors from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine were digitally inserted into the The Original Series episode "The Trouble with Tribbles"?

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reference to the USS Enterprise-E

When Sisko mentions that the Defiant was in front of the Enterprise, Dulmur tells him to be more specific, as there had been five. Lucsly corrects him and says there had been six (NX-01 was never in Federation service). the first reference to the USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-E), which would appear in the film Star Trek: First Contact after the episode aired. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KlingonWarrior09 (talk • contribs)

30th Anniversary

Wasn't this a 30th anniversary episode, along with Voyager's Flashback? Shouldn't there be a mention of this? David 13:09, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures

It would be interesting to see some pictures from from the TOS episode with the same scene from the DS9 episode. SlowJog (talk) 22:34, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tribble as toupee joke

Offhand, I'd say that there's a strong possibility that the booby-trapped tribble intended to kill Kirk doubled as a writer's and Trekker's inside joke, namely that of being an impersonation of William Shatner's famous hairpiece. While I suspect that most in an official capacity or who take the Star Trek universe very seriously would be willing to admit such a possibility, the joke does seem pretty clear and straightforward. 76.190.193.234 (talk) 07:57, 4 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Got a reliable source? Doniago (talk) 15:44, 4 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Source for later expansion

A very good source from the Star Trek Communicator here. Miyagawa (talk) 19:22, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Zanimum (talk · contribs) 01:24, 15 November 2013 (UTC) I actually had prepared notes on most of this article back in September, but forgot that I started to review it.[reply]

Plot

Lt Cmdr. Worf... is it standard to use the abbreviated position titles on Wikipedia, in the first reference to a character?

I've expanded it. Miyagawa (talk) 20:16, 16 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The link to the USS Defiant actually links to the ninth season episode of that name.

I've fixed the link. Miyagawa (talk) 20:16, 16 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Two changes made direct to the article, please see the history section. Otherwise, plot is good to go.

Directing, cinematography and music

“Original tribbles writer David Gerrold”... referencing the episode, you should be capitalizing Tribbles, perhaps even quotation marks around the singular word?

Done. Miyagawa (talk) 20:16, 16 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Is it possible to briefly mention that Jonathan West wasn't an "out of the blue" choice, that he was their director of photography, and had directed 1 TNG and 2 DS9 episodes before that? Even just the DP bit.

I've added a source and mentioned that in the article. Miyagawa (talk) 20:16, 16 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Filming and casting

Deidre L. Imershein's role as a crew member is mentioned in the infobox, but should be reiterated in this section. First time reading through, I thought that she might have been playing a pleasure girl again, on the space station.

Done. Miyagawa (talk) 20:16, 16 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

“friend of one of the crew” can be confusing, considering the staff of a starship are a crew. Perhaps “series crew”, “production crew”, or something?

Changed to production crew. Miyagawa (talk) 20:16, 16 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Reception and home media release

Who did the tribble bus promotion? Paramount? The broadcaster (was it UPN)? Sci-Fi?

It was Paramount. I've clarified. (It went out on syndication so wasn't tied exclusively to any particular network - Paramount Television being the production company). Miyagawa (talk) 20:16, 16 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kudos on explaining the Nielsen ratings (specifically shares) for readers.

No worries. Miyagawa (talk) 20:16, 16 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There's for starts. -- Zanimum (talk) 01:24, 15 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Miyagawa (talk) 20:16, 16 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Until I can get back to you with the rest of the review, Checklinks is pointing out an error with the Emmys site. Also, new since I first ran the thing a few minutes ago, a connection era with another site, but I presume that will resolve itself by the time you read this. -- Zanimum (talk) 18:53, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've fixed the Emmy site - they changed the website layout and inserted an extra little bit into the url for the awards database. The other site seems to be working now. Miyagawa (talk) 19:54, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done another read over, passing. -- Zanimum (talk) 21:50, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Klingon makeup/whatever

I rewrote the bit in the plot section that covers the difference in Klingon makeup, and kept (for now) the references to the Enterprise episodes, even though it might be a little bit more the domain of a fan site. Either way, there must be more that can be put in the makeup section on this - currently, there's a quote box that says:

"We do not discuss it with outsiders"

Worf, commenting on his different physical appearance to The Original Series Klingons. Changes in make-up between the two series were referred to obliquely, as above, but not directly explained within the episode.

When I see a quote box like that, in a good article I expect to find a paragraph in the same section expanding on it, and there is none here. Memory Alpha has this, which explains the background for the quote in this episode quite well. Not all of that belongs here, of course, but just the quote box does not seem like quite enough. Thoughts? --Fru1tbat (talk) 12:56, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Plot

Did the crew travel back in time *to* avoid the assassination of Cpt. Kirk, or did they travel back in time *and* avoided the assassination of Cpt. Kirk? Better the latter, given that they were forced to go back in time by the villain of the piece in order for him to kill Kirk, which they managed to avoid. At first they even had no idea what had happened and that they had gone back in time. So "and", not "to" ;)