Talk:Union of Brest

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Adam Pociej[edit]

Then Adam Pociej (than Bishop of Vladimir)... read in Latin the formula of abjuration of the Greek Schism

Vladimir was deep within the territory of the Russian Tzardom. How could its Bishop get away with embracing Catholic faith while the ruling powers in Russian remained Orthodox?

Top.Squark (talk) 19:42, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

I don't know the answer to this particular question; however, I can perhaps provide a plausible explanation. In the Eastern Roman Empire (later called Byzantium by Western historians) after the Arab, Turkic and Mongol invasion, individuals would still be elevated to the office of bishop of cities that were currently outside the control of the Empire. Due to the decline in the countryside and the difficulty of getting to their dioceses most of these bishops would merely remain in Constantinople rather than treck out to their sees which were under the control of rulers of different religions. The 'bishops in exile' would retain the prestige of being a bishop as well as the rights afforded to them within the Orthodox hierarchy; however they would not actually preside over any Christians. Its possible Pociej was elevated to the title of bishopric in a see which he never actually visited; however, this is just conjecture.

Also, this article is very light on info on the practical effects of the Union, the major players who led the push for the union, and even the restitution of the Orthodox hierarchy a decade or so later. There's no mention at all of Skarga or the Jesuits. And the article gives the primary credit for preventing the full implementation of the Union to the Cossacks rather than the Kivan Metropolitan or the influential Ukrainian (and use this term in the narrow sense of how it would have been used in the 16th and 17th centuries - referring only to the palatinates East of the Dnieper) Orthodox Magnates.

See: Paul Runciman's The Great Church in Captivity, and Paul Meyendorff's Byzantine Theology: Historical Trends and Doctrinal Themes, G. H. William's translations of the Polish Brethren's documents. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.27.111.8 (talk) 06:34, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Surely, you mean 'Steven Runciman rather than a possibly imaginary 'Paul" Runciman — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.193.180.138 (talk) 16:47, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Synod of Brest[edit]

There is no article on the Synod of Brest. Shall we create it as a redirect to this article? All the best,Jeff5102 (talk) 15:38, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

@Jeff5102: good idea. I think there was more than one but the two notable synods were one before and one after the Union of Brest was promulgated. –BoBoMisiu (talk) 18:08, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

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