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Always liked this actor since he was in Forever Knight. Wikipedia is the first place I have ever heard that he is Jewish. Glad to know that, being Jewish myself also.

The above comment was posted by DakotaKahn on 1 September 2005.

Roodog2k 11:06, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

unreferenced, unverifiable[edit]

First, is it appropriate to call him "prince"?

Second, the business with his wife seeing the Virgin Mary.

Third, concerning the royal blood, is there a good source other than IMDB that states this? Also, could it be clarified? Would he be a prince with claim to all of Cameroon, or just part of Cameroon? That is, does his royal status extend to before current boundaries? Assuming that its true, of course.

Fourth, moving to Canada.

Roodog2k 11:16, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

I think that he is a bit crazy guy, but crazy in a positive way. Best wishes to him.

Here is the uncited info: "making Yaphet the son of the Crown Prince of the Royal Bell family of the Doualla region of West Africa's Cameroon.

He recently claims to have uncovered proof that he is the great-great-great-grandson of Britain's Queen Victoria. According to Kotto, the queen's son Prince Albert Edward VII had an illicit affair with Princess Nakande, daughter of King Doualla Manga Bell, producing the light-skinned Alexander Bell, Kotto's great-grandfather, but the deputy press secretary to Queen Elizabeth categorically refuted the story saying, " . . . Edward VII never visited Cameroon."

Yaphet Kotto is not from any family crow in Duala families, even from Duala Manga Bell!!!!!!

Kotto is married to Shirley Kotto, a Catholic, and recently claims to have seen the apparition of the Virgin Mary at Marmora, Ontario, Canada (known as Our Lady of Marmora).[citation needed] The couple have bought a house near Marmora and applied for landed immigrant status in Canada.[citation needed] It is unclear if Kotto has fully renounced his Jewish faith or not. However, according to "to this day, he remains a devout, practicing Jew"." Mad Jack 20:35, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Also, I don't quite have time right this second, but anyone working on this page might want to use this - [1] - Yahoo movies - has a lot of background and family info and is usually quite reliable, unlike IMDB Mad Jack 20:37, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

His ancestry is widely accepted public information and is considered reliable. Some sources from a quick google search:

In case that isn't enough, a lexis nexis search yields dozens more, inclusing but not limited to:

  • "Kotto is a descendant of a crown prince of Cameroon and was raised in Harlem as a Jew." The Edmonton Journal May 28, 2000
  • "His father, Avraham, an observant Jew, was the crown prince of Cameroon who immigrated to America and became a businessman." Israel Faxx May 6, 1999
  • "His father was the grandson of King Alexander Bell, who ruled a region of what is now Cameroon." Emerge March 31, 1998

On the opposite of the coin, I could find no sources, reputable or otherwise that dispute the claim. Reverting to include Cameroon text, citing Official bio at Yahoo and Edmonton Journal. Kershner 07:18, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Are you responding to me? All I did was remove info that had an "uncited" tag on it for a while. Mad Jack 20:30, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
I was responding to your deletion of the uncited information, but I did so without prejudice. I wanted to ensure that there was no further doubt on some of the info I retained. Kershner 20:28, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Removed "Nightmare on Elm Street actor" category entry[edit]

I believe that whoever added that to this article confused Yaphet Kotto with Ken Sagoes...

No, Kotto appeared in Freddy's Dead: The Final Nightmare (and survived it!) Mad Jack 23:49, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Yaphet Kotto the screamo band[edit]

Why was my edit reverted? The band are commonly identified with screamo, and are mentioned on the emo (music) page, but I am yet to seem them identified with punk. Hardcore, I could take or leave. --Matthew Proctor 04:03, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I think I was just a little rollback-happy that day. Please accept my apologies and go ahead and reinstate your edit. — Brian (talk) 02:18, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

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Dubious article[edit]

This article is full of dubious claims, and the sources cited seem extremely dubious and based solely upon his own claims (that are proven incorrect in some cases, such as his claim of being a descendant of Queen Victoria). This alleged "crown prince of Cameroon" "Avraham Kotto" doesn't even have his own article and doesn't really seem to exist (Google results are mostly mirrors of this Wikipedia article or worse, I can't find a single serious/reliable source mentioning this alleged "crown prince" who was allegedly also a Jew and a businessman for some weird reason and who married a nurse - an unusual career for a crown prince) Jeannedeba (talk) 21:37, 20 August 2010 (UTC) 

Once again, there hasn't been provided a single reliable third-party source that supports the claim that his father was a "crown prince" and the other dubious stuff (to put it very mildly). An interview with himself in some trash website such as, that only reports his own claims without backing them up with any serious sources, is NOT a reliable source, merely his own unsupported claims. If his father was really the crown prince of Cameroon etc., it would be easy to back it up with serious sources, instead of his own claims in interviews with So unless we see some serious sources, these dubious claims stay out of the article. Jeannedeba (talk) 00:39, 14 September 2010 (UTC) 

Incidentally, Cameroon has been a republic (not a kingdom) since its independence, and was formerly a colony and a mandate territory, not a kingdom. There has never been a "king of Cameroon" (or a "crown prince of Cameroon"). I think this establishes that the "crown prince" story is a hoax. There is an interesting story about another alleged "king of Cameroon" here. Jeannedeba (talk) 00:55, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Your use of the phrase "original research" is completely incorrect. According to WP:NOR, "No original research" means that "all material in Wikipedia must be attributable to a reliable, published source. Articles may not contain any new analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to advance a position not clearly advanced by the sources." Taking information from newspapers like The Tuscaloosa News, the Kentucky New Era and The Standard-Times (New Bedford) is not original research, nor is taking information from an interview with the subject of the article in People (magazine) (or, for that matter). If not for newspapers and journals, we would nary have any sources at all. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 22:53, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
An interview with himself in some obscure publication that only reports his own claims is not a reliable source for anything else than what he's claiming, it doesn't establish that his claims are true, specifically when it's very easy to establish that there has never been a crown prince of Cameroon. Taking mere unsupported claims of royalty from an obscure local newspaper like The Tuscaloosa News and presenting it as a fact is original research. Jeannedeba (talk) 16:16, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

According to the source currently cited in the article[2], he wasn't born as a "royal", it was something he "found out" in adult life "whilestudying his family's lineage". There are lots of examples of grown people who have "found out" that they were in reality royals, claims that are seldomly accepted. Kotto also claims to be the "great, great grandson of Queen Victoria", a claim that has been widely dismissed (genealogists are very well aware of all of Victoria's descendants, Wikipedia probably has a list somewhere, most of the living ones (except those who married catholics) are included in the Line of succession to the British throne). Simply claiming that you are the "great, great grandson of Queen Victoria" doesn't make you a real "great, great grandson of Queen Victoria". Notably, the Buckingham Palace has dismissed Kotto's claims[3]. Jeannedeba (talk) 16:21, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

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