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At Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Scientology questions arose regarding links to several at Wikipedia articles. To the best of my knowledge these have not been brought up at the reliable sources noticeboard and the community has not reached consensus about whether any of them are reliable sources or not, although a number of these are probably not. This list is compiled without attempting to resolve that issue.

A total of 1398 external links are potentially under discussion as evidence. This report gives a picture of how that reflects in article space. The lists below were compiled by the following method:

  • Talk space, user space, and Wikipedia namespace were excluded.
  • Articles where the link was a legitimate self-published source per WP:RS were excluded. For example, Lermanet.com at Arnaldo Lerma. This principle was applied conservatively.
  • Articles where the link appeared only in the "external links" section were excluded, because external linking practices are different from the requirements for inline citations.
  • An article which contains more than one inline citation to challenged domains is listed once per domain. So Church of Scientology, which has citations to four different challenged domains, is listed four times.

For all domains, article inline citations were a small minority of total links. Summary:

  1. Xenu.net: 374 links, 57 articles.
  2. Lermanet.com: 268 links, 46 articles.
  3. Holysmoke.org: 178 links, 50 articles.
  4. Clambake.org: 134 links, 43 articles.
  5. Whyaretheydead.net: 122 links, 42 articles.
  6. home.snafu.de/tilman/:82 links, 12 articles.
  7. xenu-directory.net: 46 links, 16 articles.
  8. gerryarmstrong.org: 54 links, 10 articles.
  9. truthaboutscientology.com: 46 links, 8 articles.
  10. lisamcpherson.org: 44 links, 8 articles.
  11. scientology-lies.com: 31 links, 11 articles.
  12. spaink.net:28 links, 2 articles.
  13. suppressiveperson.org: 15 links, 0 articles.
  14. fairgamed.org: 5 links, 0 articles.
  15. xenutv.com: 5 links, 1 article.

So the matter is not as huge as it first appeared, yet potentially a laborious cleanup. Please note that simple addition will not yield the total number of Scientology articles affected. In addition to multiple occurrences for the same articles in different domains, some of these domains are also in use at other topics. For instance, Holysmoke.org is cited at Neolithic, Roe v. Wade, Black supremacy, Charles Manson, Criticism of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, LaRouche movement, and several other articles unrelated to Scientology. If the domain is unreliable then it ought to be removed from all articles, of course. This caveat pertains to the Scientology arbitration.

I hope the following list makes the cleanup task for fellow editors. Due to relative unfamiliarity with the topic I defer to other editors about which domains are reliable or unreliable and how to implement a cleanup. DurovaCharge! 23:12, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Xenu.net

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For this section only I cross-checked occurrences across other domains. Numbers that appear in parentheses note the number of challenged domains that have inline citations within an article. If no parenthetical note appears beside an article then only xenu.net has been used as an inline citation.

Since this was the first domain I surveyed, I discussed it with Cirt before the rest of the research was complete. He agreed to remove contributory copyright violations that resolve to this domain and edited several articles for that purpose while I was compiling the rest of the report. I was a bit concerned that some articles he had worked on such as Xenu used this domain for inline citations. He countered that xenu.net has been used by several major newspapers in exposés. I'm not entirely convinced by that argument; quite a number of newspapers have cited Wikipedia and Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Yet the community accepted it at the recent featured article review which closed earlier this month.

Cirt and I discussed the possibility of opening a WP:RSN thread to settle the question about whether this source is reliable. If this matter had arisen outside the context of arbitration he would have opened a noticeboard query promptly. We decided not to do so at the present time in order to refrain from expanding the dispute at the present. He remains open to the community's consensus. In the meantime he has removed instances of contributory copyright infringement that resolve to this domain, because that action should be uncontroversial.

  1. Church of Scientology (4)
  2. Scientology controversies (5)
  3. Scientology (10)
  4. Dianetics (4)
  5. L. Ron Hubbard (6)
    removed link to [1] (WP:COPYLINKS) Cirt (talk) 02:47, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
  6. Scientology and the legal system (3)
  7. Lawrence Wollersheim
  8. Disconnection (2)
  9. Harry Palmer (author) (2)
  10. Scientology: The Now Religion (3)
  11. History of Dianetics (2)
  12. Harvey Jackins (2)
  13. Re-evaluation Counseling
  14. Quackery
  15. Moxon & Kobrin (2)
  16. Citizens Commission on Human Rights (4)
  17. The Way to Happiness
  18. Cult Awareness Network (2)
  19. Xenu
  20. Body thetan
  21. Thetan
  22. Revolt in the Stars
  23. Sequoia University (3)
  24. Oxford Capacity Analysis (2)
  25. Fair Game (Scientology) (5)
  26. Dead File
  27. Cyril Vosper
  28. The Mind Benders (3)
  29. Scientology and Werner Erhard (5)
  30. The Bridge (2006 drama)
  31. Volunteer Ministers
  32. Scientology and the Internet (2)
    removed link to [2], replaced with cite to 60 Minutes, CBS News. Cirt (talk) 07:17, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
  33. Zenon Panoussis
  34. Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health (2)
  35. Manuel Real
  36. István Balogh (politician)
  37. Robert Vaughn Young (3)
  38. Rehabilitation Project Force (4)
  39. Operation Snow White (4)
  40. Heber Jentzsch (4)
  41. Golden Era Productions
  42. Gold Base (4)
  43. Scientology and psychiatry (3)
  44. The Thriving Cult of Greed and Power
  45. Implant (Scientology) (2)
  46. Incident (Scientology) (3)
  47. Space opera in Scientology scripture (2)
  48. Helatrobus (3)
  49. Land of Sunshine
  50. Tom Cruise
  51. Exorcism
  52. Tory Christman (2)
  53. Scientology as a business (2)
  54. List of Scientologists (2)
  55. Margaret Grubb
  56. Leipzig Human Rights Award
  57. Project Chanology

Lermanet.com

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  1. All About Radiation
  2. Inside Scientology
  3. The Scandal of Scientology
  4. The Mind Benders
  5. Scientology: The Now Religion
  6. Auditing (Scientology)
  7. Scientology
  8. Reactive mind
  9. Bob Minton
  10. Universal Life
  11. Fair Game (Scientology)
  12. Office of Special Affairs
  13. Scientology and Werner Erhard
  14. Günther Beckstein
  15. Sahaja Yoga
  16. Diskeeper
  17. Free Zone (Scientology)
  18. Diskeeper Corporation
  19. Tom Theo Klemesrud
  20. Scientology and the legal system
  21. Vexatious litigation
  22. Heber Jentzsch
  23. Keith Henson
  24. John Gordon Clark
  25. Leo J. Ryan Award
  26. History of Dianetics
  27. Gold Base
  28. Religious Technology Center
  29. Office of Special Affairs
  30. Operation Freakout
  31. Lucis Trust
  32. New Age
  33. Operation Snow White
  34. List of films considered the worst
  35. Richard Behar
  36. Alt.religion.scientology
  37. Scott Bundgaard
  38. Jack Parsons
  39. Sequoia University
  40. Arthur W. Wermuth
  41. Tory Christman
  42. Scieno Sitter
  43. L. Ron Hubbard: Messiah or Madman?
  44. Ronald DeWolf
  45. Criminon
  46. Jesus in Scientology

Holysmoke.org

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  1. Leo J. Ryan Award
  2. Inside Scientology
  3. Auditing (Scientology)
  4. Scientology
  5. Narconon
  6. Citizens Commission on Human Rights
  7. Stephen A. Kent
  8. Operation Snow White
  9. Chelmsford Royal Commission
  10. OT VIII
  11. L. Ron Hubbard
  12. Grady Ward
  13. Mace-Kingsley Ranch School
  14. Cult Awareness Network
  15. Safe Environment Fund
  16. Gold Base
  17. Scientology holidays
  18. Church of Scientology
  19. Trementina Base
  20. Robert Vaughn Young
  21. Wellspring Retreat and Resource Center
  22. Raphanobrassica
  23. Elaine Ziemba
  24. Neolithic
  25. Diane Carlson Evans
  26. Carlos Castaneda
  27. Late-term abortion
  28. Abortion in the United States
  29. Office of Special Affairs
  30. Scientology and Werner Erhard
  31. Black supremacy
  32. Tom Theo Klemesrud
  33. Lisa McPherson
  34. Gottfried Helnwein
  35. File 18
  36. List of longest novels
  37. Roe v. Wade
  38. Rehabilitation Project Force
  39. Katherine Ann Power
  40. Harvey Jackins
  41. American exceptionalism
  42. American Empire
  43. Sarin gas attack on the Tokyo subway
  44. Charles Manson
  45. Michelle Remembers
  46. Criticism of the Seventh-day Adventist Church
  47. L. Ron Hubbard and the military
  48. Northport, New York
  49. LaRouche movement
  50. Morning Glory Zell-Ravenheart

clambake.org

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  1. Family Action Information Resource
  2. A Piece of Blue Sky
  3. Blood ritual
  4. Noisy investigation
  5. Auditing (Scientology)
  6. Scientology
  7. L. Ron Hubbard and the military
  8. Space opera in Scientology scripture
  9. Helatrobus
  10. Ronald DeWolf
  11. Dianetics
  12. E-meter
  13. Scientology controversies
  14. Commodore's Messenger Organization
  15. Sara Northrup
  16. Battlefield Earth (novel)
  17. David Miscavige
  18. Incident (Scientology)
  19. Operation Snow White
  20. Quentin Hubbard
  21. Timeline of Scientology
  22. Scientology and the legal system
  23. Inside Scientology
  24. Scientology and Werner Erhard
  25. Kenton Gray
  26. Brain-Washing (book)
  27. Scientology: A History of Man
  28. Suppressive Person
  29. R2-45
  30. Engram (Dianetics)
  31. List of Scientologists
  32. Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health
  33. L. Ron Hubbard
  34. A Doctor's Report on Dianetics
  35. Scientology and sex
  36. Have You Lived Before This Life
  37. Sunday Dispatch
  38. Scientology and psychiatry
  39. Volney Mathison
  40. Scientology as a business
  41. Scientology
  42. Sequoia University
  43. Church of Scientology

whyaretheydead.net

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  1. L. Ron Hubbard
  2. Sociological classifications of religious movements
  3. Sect
  4. Cult
  5. Lisa McPherson
  6. Michael Baden
  7. Introspection Rundown
  8. Scientology controversies
    removed link to [3], should find secondary source for this info instead. Cirt (talk) 07:14, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
  9. Cults and governments
  10. Edward Lottick
  11. Quentin Hubbard
  12. Heber Jentzsch
  13. Sea Org
  14. Disconnection
  15. Religious Technology Center
  16. Gold (color)
  17. Scientology
  18. Gold Base
  19. Safe Environment Fund
  20. Fishman Affidavit
  21. Steven Fishman
  22. Moxon & Kobrin
  23. Scieno Sitter
  24. Quentin Hubbard
  25. Robert Vaughn Young
  26. Bennetta Slaughter
  27. Frederick Lenz
  28. Great Commission church movement
  29. Leo J. Ryan Award
  30. Maurice Davis (rabbi)
  31. David A. Halperin
  32. Mark Sirkin
  33. Galen Kelly
  34. Harold Goldstein (psychologist, mental health)
  35. Scientology and Werner Erhard
  36. L. Ron Hubbard: Messiah or Madman?
  37. Maurice K. Temerlin
  38. Kenja Communication
  39. Cults and governments
  40. Medical claims in Scientology doctrine
  41. Fort Harrison Hotel
  42. Bennetta Slaughter

home.snafu.de/tilman/

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  1. Perceptions of religious imagery in natural phenomena
  2. Mimi Rogers
  3. Fair Game (Scientology)
  4. Dianetics
  5. Mary Sue Hubbard
  6. Timeline of Scientology
  7. Scientology
  8. Cults and governments
  9. Universal Life
  10. Anton Piller order
  11. Browser wars
  12. Milton Katselas

xenu-directory.net

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  1. Timeline of Scientology
  2. Scientology
  3. The Earth Organization
  4. Auditing (Scientology)
  5. L. Ron Hubbard
  6. Fair Game (Scientology)
  7. Scientology: The Now Religion
  8. Inside Scientology
  9. The Scandal of Scientology
  10. The Mind Benders
  11. Rehabilitation Project Force
  12. Tom Theo Klemesrud
  13. John Gordon Clark
  14. Rundown (Scientology)
  15. Mike Rinder
  16. Scientology and psychiatry

gerryarmstrong.org

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  1. Fair Game (Scientology)
  2. R2-45
  3. Auditing (Scientology)
  4. Scientology
  5. Implant (Scientology)
  6. Incident (Scientology)
  7. Helatrobus
  8. Office of Special Affairs
  9. Citizens Commission on Human Rights
  10. Edward Lottick

truthaboutscientology.com

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  1. Standard Tech
  2. Dianetics
  3. Heron Books
  4. Harry Palmer (author)
  5. Laura Prepon
  6. Nancy Cartwright
  7. Rundown (Scientology)
  8. Bennetta Slaughter

lisamcpherson.org

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  1. Scientology controversies
    removed link to [4], should find secondary source for this info instead. Cirt (talk) 07:14, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
  2. Citizens Commission on Human Rights
  3. Symbols of Scientology
  4. Doctrine of Exchange
    removed link to [5], tagged with {{fact}}. Cirt (talk) 03:10, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
  5. Free Zone (Scientology)
  6. Mary Sue Hubbard
  7. Scientology
  8. Church of Scientology

scientology-lies.com

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  1. Sterling Management Systems
    removed convenience link to [6] (WP:COPYLINKS) Cirt (talk) 03:02, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
  2. Danny Masterson
    removed link to [7], replaced with cite to The Dallas Morning News, modified info accordingly. Cirt (talk) 03:04, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
  3. Celebrity Centre
    removed link to [8], replaced with cites to secondary sources, The Daily Telegraph, Newsday, Los Angeles Times. Cirt (talk) 03:05, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
  4. Volney Mathison
    removed link to [9], replaced with cite to The Skeptic's Dictionary by Robert Todd Carroll (2005) Cirt (talk) 03:08, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
  5. Medical claims in Scientology doctrine
    removed link to [10], replaced with cites to secondary sources San Francisco Chronicle, San Antonio Express-News, WebMD, FOX News. Cirt (talk) 03:08, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
  6. Doctrine of Exchange
    removed link to [11], tagged with {{fact}}. Cirt (talk) 03:09, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
  7. Oxford Capacity Analysis
    removed link to [12], should find secondary source for this info instead. Cirt (talk) 07:12, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
  8. Scientology controversies
    removed link to [13], should find WP:RS secondary source for this info instead. Cirt (talk) 07:13, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
  9. Scientology and the Internet
    removed link to [14], should find secondary source for this info instead. Cirt (talk) 07:16, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
  10. Rehabilitation Project Force
    removed link to [15], should find secondary source for this info instead. Cirt (talk) 07:19, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
  11. Heber Jentzsch
    removed info sourced to [16], should find secondary source for this info instead. Cirt (talk) 07:20, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

spaink.net

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  1. L. Ron Hubbard
    removed link to [17], best to find a secondary source for this sort of info. Cirt (talk) 02:45, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
  2. L. Ron Hubbard and the military
    removed link to [18], not the best WP:RS, better to find a secondary source here. The link to the text of the Hubbard biography could possibly go back in, in light of Talk:Bare-faced Messiah, but could do with more discussion/verification. Cirt (talk) 02:44, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

suppressiveperson.org

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No articles.

fairgamed.org

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No articles.

xenutv.com

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  1. Stacy Meyer
    removed convenience link, not needed for WP:V, also WP:COPYLINKS is an issue. Cirt (talk) 02:41, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
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