User:TenPoundHammer/Archive 2

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Joint Venture (music) AfD

You might want to revisit your !vote at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joint Venture (music); the discography listed in the article was for a different band with the same name (and the band up for deletion was not on that notable label). Precious Roy 14:21, 12 July 2007 (UTC) oud. One primary editor, a few others, and you're not the primary or even an editor. Read WP:CSD b


Your comment is spot on; I was busy reading through the Italian stuff - my reading of Italian is not as quick as English or Spanish, and noted that some of the articles don't even mention the company. I guess the old addage "...make sure you spell it right" doesn't apply. :-) Carlossuarez46 18:16, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

SD on Performance Research

I removed the {speedy} notice on Performance Research. The article was proposed for SD once already and refuted; it's already in AfD, so please allow that process to work. Tlesher 18:45, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I gleefully thank you

thanks gleefully for that wonderful barnstar --omtay38 22:13, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


Greetings, I was wondering if you could go to this Afd and provide any input possibly? Thanks. --sumnjim talk with me·changes 12:15, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm, well it appears you already commented on it. --sumnjim talk with me·changes 13:40, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Westwood Mall (Marquette, Michigan)

I've nominated Westwood Mall (Marquette, Michigan), an article you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but in this particular case I do not feel that Westwood Mall (Marquette, Michigan) satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion; I have explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Westwood Mall (Marquette, Michigan) and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Westwood Mall (Marquette, Michigan) during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Ten Pound Hammer(((Broken clamshellsOtter chirps))) 16:21, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Delta Plaza Mall

I've nominated Delta Plaza Mall, an article you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but in this particular case I do not feel that Delta Plaza Mall satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion; I have explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Delta Plaza Mall and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Delta Plaza Mall during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Ten Pound Hammer(((Broken clamshellsOtter chirps))) 16:36, 13 July 2007 (UTC)


Just an FYI on usage of G4. I noticed you tagged "4 yo information" as G4, but that only applies where there is a previous AFD (MFD/TFD/etc) discussion that closed "Delete". In this case the article was previously deleted as a speedy deletion, so G4 doesn't apply; you can only use G4 if there has been a discussion. I still deleted the article though as CSD:A7, which is the original deletion reason.--Isotope23 19:21, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Jake Owen

I don't mean for my re-adding the info on the Jake Owen page about Randy Owen to be malicious in any way. I just have seen too many references incorrectly asserting Randy is Jake's father that I think it should be on the page. I found one reference specifically addressing the fact they are unrelated; hopefully this removes the scent of original research. I just really think that this belongs somewhere on that page. Sorry if I'm handling this in a bad way. Spell4yr 19:51, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

"Free images?

I have no idea what that means that an image could be replaced by a "free" image, as per the Ashley Monroe image. Can you explain what exactly that is about? Do they mean pics taken at concerts and such?

Vala M 02:01, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

So when did this become an issue on Wiki?

Vala M 02:15, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi this is an automated message sent to all editors who posted to [[1]] between 07/04/07 and 07/15/07. Due to an editorial error, the Afd wasn't properly logged for all of the usual 5 day period. I have now relisted it. Mike33 05:34, 15 July 2007 (UTC)


Could you please remove the <div></div> from your signature? It screws up the {{subst:ab}} template when I close deletion discussions. Ten Pound Hammer(((Broken clamshellsOtter chirps))) 18:52, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Sorry about that...should be working right now. ShoesssS Talk 10:14, 16 July 2007 (UTC)


Just thought that since I see your comments all the time on the Articles for Deletions, I'd drop by and say hi and give you this:

Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar.png The Dedication Barnstar
For tirelessly giving excellent input as to the proposed deletion of articles. Useight 04:13, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Louis Carlet

On the AfD discussion you said that the sources meet WP:RS and WP:V. However, I just checked the sources: Two were articles in the Japan Times that promote the Union. Another was a classified ad, and the final one was an event listing. None of these satisfy WP:RS or WP:V. Please look through the history and check for yourself.

The three remaining sources are duplicates of those on the NUGW page. I don't know if you live, or have lived in Japan, but this person is simply not notable at all, and it appears that Union supporters are stuffing the page with bogus links to make him appear more notable than he actually is. I would like to ask you to reconsider your review of the page. Best regards. -- Sparkzilla talk! 17:02, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Sparkzilla, your WP:CANVASS activities are clearly directed to affect voting. This needs to stop. Statisticalregression 17:50, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
TPH. FYI. Sparkzilla is the self-declared publisher of Metropolis magazine, which has included information negative to the union of which Mr Carlet is involved. SZ has been warned-off editing articles relating to his magazine and business interests by many admins in the ongoing discussion here due to his COI and WP:CANVAS activities. Just a heads-up David Lyons 17:53, 16 July 2007 (UTC)


Hey, dude. Thanks for making that wikipedia page for the band Middian. I tried making it once and after a few days, someone deleted it. Someone else tried making it, and it got deleted almost immediately probably. Hopefully, this time it will stay a wikipedia page. Later.

Closing an AfD

Here you closed an AfD. You cant do this, you're not an administrator. Am I right? --Matt57 (talkcontribs) 22:08, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Pages for singles

What is the reason for the new creation of pages for County artists' singles? I feel like that is a waste of effort and space. I mean, some songs that are very notable and well known do deserve pages but not every single, like on Joe Nichols' page, about 1/3 of his songs have articles on them. I mean, some like "Size Matters" just have one paragraph only. I don't think that "Size matters is a single by Joe Nichols" is enough to have an article on the song about. Unless this is some new Wikipedia rule or something like that.

Vala M 14:52, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining, although I don't generally agree with the idea of putting a page for every "notable" song.

Vala M 14:06, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Speedy Keeps

Please see Wikipedia:Speedy keep policy before closing any more afds as speedy delete per WP:SNOW--SefringleTalk 20:01, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Ceremonial Snips (Band) Protection

This band is being marked for notability in being a role model in the Niagara Region by promoting music as an outlet as Welland innovating the Ska Metal sound. The Speedy deletion that you have recommended comes without any reason in the discussion page of the Ceremonial Snips wiki. Further harassment will not be tolerated, as I have asked for information from music journalists across the region to document the information lost in the Bands most recent change in labels.

Thanks for doing your part, though lets have patience.


Conversion of canal water into drinking water

Hi.  :-) Many thanks for letting me know that I had forgotten to sign my nomination of "Conversion of canal water into drinking water" for deletion - usually I just edit articles, for which a signature is added automatically. Hopefully I have been more diligent in other areas where I recorded my opinion on issues with this and other articles.

You have recorded a "snowball" vote for deletion - should I just go ahead and delete this article then? I am just an ordinary user, and wasn't sure whether that would be proper protocol, or even whether I am able to perform such actions myself.

Many thanks again.  :-) Best wishes.

Leevclarke 18:20, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/FurryMUCK

Please assume good faith when dealing with other editors. See Wikipedia:Assume good faith for the guidelines on this. GreenJoe 00:36, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Apology accepted. I did see the sources, and I acknowledge that they are there, I just don't think it merits inclusion. GreenJoe 02:05, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

My posts will be signed

This post is in regard to:

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My deepest apologies for neglecting to sign, since it wasn't that difficult to discover who it was then I will assume that no harm has been done.

--SamichX 00:39, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (Image:Jeffcarsonreallife.jpg)

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Getting too hasty in closing AFDs

I argued for keeping Billmon in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Billmon , but I think you were too hasty in closing it as a "Snowball Keep" when it had only been open less than 9 hours and had 6 contributions. I would not have seen it and would not have added 3 sources to the article if I had eaten lunch instead of editing Wikipedia! I like to see maybe 12 Keep votes over a 24 hour period before seeing an article speedily kept, so that the deletion debate has given every time zone of the world a shot at it. That said, I certainly will not be taking it to deletion review, and I give you my heartfelt thanks for your efforts to kep the AFDs cleaned up. Regards. The close of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donald R. Mitchell was also outside the provisions of WP:SNOW because there was one Delete !vote. Edison 19:04, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

At the same time, I admit I called for "Speedy Keep" so if I complain about your speeed I criticize myself as well.Edison 23:08, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Now to shift gears, what exactly would one do to do a non admin speedy close? I am considering giving it a go at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Conversion of canal water into drinking water which I see as a good candidate. Thanks. Edison 19:26, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree that you might want to chill out with the snow closures (pun intended). By and large I agree that you probably closed them correctly but you seem to be closing quite a few that have only been open a limited time and with a limited number of !votes. Bear in mind that a lot of poeple cannot access Wikipedia while at work, school, or (obviously) asleep, so speedy closing a debate with 8 or less hours means a large portion of people will never have a chance to chime in. It's probably more prudent to wait at least a full day before snowing a debate, with some obvious exceptions. I've seen a few of them get reverted too, which is probably a sign that you might be a tad bit too hasty with it. ɑʀкʏɑɴ 20:37, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

The article I referred to above looks like one deserving of closure as "delete". You have closed articles as a "non-admin delete" but WP:DPR#NAC says "In general, administrators are responsible for closing discussions about deletions. However, at times the various deletion discussions become backlogged. Editors in good-standing who have not been made administrators may close deletion discussions, with the following provisions:"..."Non-administrators should not close even unanimous "delete" decisions, as they lack the technical ability to delete pages." You closed an AFD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cartoon Network BLOX [2] , then later it looks like you added another name to the closing, [3] "SirFozzie" It would take an admin to actually do the mechanics of the deletion. Why is the name SirFozzie there?I do not see in User:SirFozzie's contribution history [4] that he did anything at that time in that AFD. Maybe I'm just reading it wrong. Edison 00:25, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
You do good work mopping up and maintaining Wikipedia in good order and have over 15,000 edits. Maybe you should do an RFA and get the neat little buttons. Edison 00:34, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
Oops, I see you gave it a shot in May. Maybe next time. Edison 00:36, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

I see you are still doing it. You nominated Scottsdale Center for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Scottsdale Center [5] and after less than an hour and 2 comments you apparently closed it, nonadministratively, [6] as a Delete. If you closed it (as opposed to cleaning up after an idmin deleted it, it was inappropriate when you yourself nominated it. Please leave AFDs open for at least 24 hours so that Wikipedians in various time zones have a chance to comment on it, or perhaps to find references to improve the article. Edison 20:35, 26 July 2007 (UTC)The article was speedied by an admin and TPH just noted that in cleaning up after him, because the admin did not close the AFD.Edison 18:01, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

    • Please show a diff which shows what time User:Philippe speedied it. I don't see it in his contributions log. Did he speedy it without the action showing up in the history log for the AFD, after TenPoundHammer nominated it for AFD, or did TenPoundHammer nominate it for AFDafter it had been speedied? Neither action makes any sense. Edison 20:46, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
    • Yes Philippe speedied it without noting in the AFD that he had done so. Speedy deletions do not show up in the deleting admin's contribution history. Have to click to the AFD, then access the history for the article from there. Wonder if this is a bug or a "feature?" ;-) When an admin speedies it, he should always note the fact in the AFD and also close the AFD, and if someone else is cleaning up after unnoted speedies by an admin, he should say so in the AFD closure, to avoid confusion, so there is not even the appearance of hocus pocus or impropriety. Regards. Edison 21:32, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Krystal Steal playah you :P Giggy UCP 03:12, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Josh Turner's first single She'll Go On You

Mr Hammer

This single reached #46 on the Billboard Country Charts in 2002 per the 2005 edition of Billboard Top Country Songs book.

I can't figure out how to update his chart grid, so I hope you can do that for me.

Thank you,


Your speedy delete request

on Book 4. This is not a test page, it's a redirect page. Please remove the speedy notice. Exploding Boy 02:12, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Jeff small

Err, oops?  :-) The Jeff small article isn't mine— I just moved the new stub to fix the naming guidelines! — Coren (talk) 02:51, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

You know, by "not mine" I meant "I'm not the creator". Double check the history— you might want to notify the actual creator of the page, not of the name fix redirect!  :-) — Coren (talk) 02:58, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Biblical Numerology

You think you're fast, new-pages-patroller-boy? You ain't so fast. :) -FisherQueen (Talk) 02:56, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi. PLease can you read the tag on the List of action films. It says this article is under construction. PLease do not tag for deletion. However if no changes are made in several days then it may be removed. Why did you have to nominate -thes elists take time to complete and if you check the creators editing history you'll see what a great efficient job he does eventually ♦ Dr. Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you?" Contribs 10:28, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of bWitty

Hello, I'm kinda new at this. But why was my page Bwitty deleted, I fail to see my Bwitty it not notable but PtiMemo is and Stickies. Please explain how is my page corporate publicity and those pages are innocent encyclopedia entries.

Please respond in my talk if possible.

Thanks for your comment MyWiseData 16:53, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Power Systems CAD

I removed the speedy tag on this article, because I can't really see how it's spam. I noted this on the article's talk page. --Darksun 17:58, 23 July 2007 (UTC)


Merde. Had I known you wanted the mop, I'd have offered to nominate you. We stumble upon each other often enough that I see how you work, and it'd have avoided the stigma of self-nomination. (I never agreed with, even though I understand, why many are suspicious of self-nominees). — Coren (talk) 22:53, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Double Shot (Ride) AfD

I have added a bunch of refernces to this article for its notability and cited sources for every sentence and I hope it is fixed to where It won't need to be deleted for not being notable amusement ride. Sawblade05 00:00, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Abby Abadi

I've started the deletion review for Abby Abadi. Since you've stated that you take care when you speedy-tag to "make sure to research an article's content first," you might like to join in to discuss how you confirmed the subject's non-notability. I also started another review for Gerak Khas yesterday. --Groggy Dice T | C 03:52, 24 July 2007 (UTC)


Heh. Twice in one day I inspire you to withdraw an AFD. Something in the water ether, perhaps ... --Dhartung | Talk 05:57, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Alpena Mall

Alpena Mall, an article you created, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that Alpena Mall satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alpena Mall and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Alpena Mall during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Ten Pound Hammer(((Broken clamshellsOtter chirps))) 14:35, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Clay Walker/White Palace

Removed link to Clay Walker (no problem), but do not remove or edit song (White Palace) or facts related to it. Thank you.Wikibones 14:40, 24 July 2007 (UTC)


I know they were optional and multipart, I do want to thank you for taking the time to answer them. Regards, Navou banter 17:33, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

I noticed you voted to delete Jen Gatien. Several changes have been made as it was not updated to reflect current information. ThanksDeerjen 18:08, 24 July 2007 (UTC)deerjen

AfD attention request

Not sure if this is out of order, but there's a somewhat contentions AfD (here) that has received little outside attention. Since the AfD was initiated, a number of single purpose accounts (likely sockpuppets) have started editing (and discussing on the talk page) the article; not !voting, fortunately. In any case, I wanted to see if some AfD regulars could stop by and weigh in. I'm not looking to sway !votes here—I haven't targeted deletionists; I'm asking editors that seem to !vote a lot on music-related AfDs. No reply is necessary but your opinion is valued. Pr 2.0 13:24, 25 July 2007 (UTC)


I just wanted to ask you a quick question. I've seen you do a few non-admin closures of AFDs, and I've managed to get a hold of the code to paste in that shows that the discussion is closed. But I was just wondering if you do anything after you've marked it as closed or if you're just supposed to leave it like that? I've yet to close one, I've just added to the discussions. P.S. - Thanks for your support in my recently unsuccessful RfA. Useight 20:37, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Okay, makes sense now. I just never did it before and wanted to know the procedure. Useight 23:50, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

About... Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lemon shoulder(drinking game)

Could you please put that picture from the article up for deletion as well? Thanks. -- Ben 21:03, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Here is. It was easy to find since there's an article for it... :). I think the article might need another delete. -- Ben 21:16, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Crap. I have no idea how to not make that happen. -- Ben 21:17, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Please see Lemon shoulder. -- Ben 21:18, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Could I get your help

... on something else, too? If you have time... I don't want to revert this article again. If I'm not at 3 reversions, then I'm close. This looks like something that's pretty inflamatory... -- Ben 21:21, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. -- Ben 21:23, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Scooch's pizza

You've just tagged this as spam. You beat me to it. It's the most blatant example I've yet seen. The only thing it doesn't say is "Don't forget to mention Wikipedia when ordering". Keep up the good work and remember illegitimus non carborundum! --ROGER TALK 22:04, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

AfD Nomination: Railpage Australia

removed notice of bad faith nomination Gnangarra 04:12, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Slow down

Let me handle Ward Churchill... this is complicated, and takes time. No need to "finish" "unfinished" nominations less than 5 minutes old. Best wishes, Xoloz 04:06, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

For the Love of the Game

Why should it be deleted if it was confirmed to be recorded and it has for tracks confirmed also. I think it should stay until further information is released (Quetzal123 04:46, 26 July 2007 (UTC))

Go to and go to the blog that says "July 24th New Journal From Rob" (Quetzal123 04:57, 26 July 2007 (UTC))

What about the band's official page 05:02, 26 July 2007 (UTC))

Very speedy delete

Hi. I noticed that you closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amarillo Bible Church as a non-admin speedy delete. While I think this would have been the final consensus, it's hard to tell since there was no discussion; if I'm reading this history correctly it was closed two minutes after opening, which seems a little hasty! Closure-as-delete by non-admins is currently being debated on Wikipedia talk:Deletion process, please come and offer your opinions! --tiny plastic Grey Knight 13:45, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Again, this was a speedy delete by User:Jaranda that TPH appears to have been noting. See what the problem is? You want the complaints to go to the actual deleting administrator, not to you. NawlinWiki 20:42, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Where is a diff to show that it was speedied by User:Jaranda? Why can't I see the speedy deletion in his contribution history? I sacnned the last 500 entries and it doesn't appear to be there. Thanks Edison 21:03, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
    • This seems to be a concurrency problem in Wikipedia software. Jaranda speedy deleted it in the same minute someone else nominated it for AFD. When someone notices this and closes the AFD as a speedy PLEASE include a diff showing the speedy by the admin such as [7], because apparently these actions do not show up in the contrib log for the admin. Please do not leave the impression it was speedied inappropriately by a non-admin shortly after the AFD was opened. Thanks. Edison 21:20, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Speedy tags

Stop adding speedy tags to articles that are already on Afd. You're making more work for others, duplicating effort if you're right and frankly, you are often wrong. You just added an A7 tag to an article with several clear claims of notability. KillerChihuahua?!? 20:26, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

My apologies. Which article did I tag as speedy that didn't deserve it? Ten Pound Hammer(((Broken clamshellsOtter chirps))) 20:49, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
And now you've tagged San Joaquin Film Festival as G7, which is Author request. Go, right now. and read what the tag says. Then remove the damn thing. Look at the history, for crying out lefore tagging any more articles incorrectly. You're just making more work for everybody else, and you're clearly not being careful about what you're doing. KillerChihuahua?!? 21:40, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
The tag says "no one other than the editor has made substantial edits". The only non-author edits were additions/removals of deletion tags, which I don't see as substantial edits. The author has requested deletion on the article's talk page, and someone else in the discussion suggested a G7 speedy, so I figured that a G7 was in order. I removed the tag, but I still think that it fits. Ten Pound Hammer(((Broken clamshellsOtter chirps))) 21:47, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
I agree with TPH on this one -- the author requested deletion on the article talk page, and no other editors made meaningful contributions. AFD closed as speedy delete g7. NawlinWiki 21:56, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
G7 is specifically request of the author, who is not TPH. If you wish to change the CSD criteria, have at. Until then, that is incorrect CSD rationale. KillerChihuahua?!? 22:01, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
Adding: If the author wants the page deleted, either tell him how to request G7 himself, or link to where he requested it when placing the tag. Also, please stop splitting discussions per the note at the top of my talk page. KillerChihuahua?!? 22:06, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
My apologies again, I didn't see that note. Linking to the author's request for deletion is a good idea, I'll remember that next time. And please, try to be a little more civil next time -- comments like "...Then remove the damn thing. Look at the history, for crying out loud." aren't exactly civil. Ten Pound Hammer(((Broken clamshellsOtter chirps))) 22:10, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
The author did request deletion, on the article talk page. I'm not aware of any policy that says that the deletion request must be made specifically by the author's placing of a g7 tag on the article; in fact, I've seen it done other ways as well (usually by author's request in the AFD discussion). NawlinWiki 22:11, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
Yes, thank you, saw that in your post above, addressed below. KillerChihuahua?!? 22:19, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

After EC:

I would probably be more patient with you were you not currently in an Rfa, self-nominated. One expects people to be a little less hasty and a little more careful and thorough if they are stating "I am ready for the buttons" yet you are not. The A7 was just plain wrong; given the information I had available to me, the G7 was also wrong. Now I find that the author did indeed request deletion, which qualifies it for G7, but you didn't bother to mention that in your edit summary, or mention it to me when I posted here. Your edit summary was Requesting speedy deletion (CSD g7). using TW. I was unaware of the talk page request; you failed to inform me of it; had I not read NawlinWiki's post (appropriately placed here, where the discussion is, btw, rather than all alone on my talk page) I would still be unaware of that. Yet you still didn't bother to mention that very pertinent fact - instead, you argue False Authority, saying "NawlinWiki agrees with me" - what is this, my gang is bigger than your gang? G7 is author request. If the author made the request, G7 applies, so let people know that. If the author did not make the reuqest, it really doesn't matter how many people "agree with" you, its not G7. Do you see the difference? One is offering relevant data which affects the situation... the other is "Oh yeah? Well, so-and-so says I'm right" which is worse than useless. I don't mean to be short with you, but your choice of how you present the situation does not have any bearing at all on the situation at all. Do you understand what I am trying to say here? KillerChihuahua?!? 22:18, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
The AfD discussion itself already stated that the author requested deletion, and the request was plainly visible on the talk page for the article (a fact also mentioned in the AfD itself), so I (falsely) assumed that you already knew about the author's request. There's no way I can add anything else to the edit summary when using Twinkle; it automatically makes "Requesting speedy deletion using TW" as the edit summary, so that was my only option in the edit summary. (Actually, this is what happened at my last RfA too -- during the course of the RfA I only did a bunch of stupid things to prove that I'm so not ready.) Ten Pound Hammer(((Broken clamshellsOtter chirps))) 22:28, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
I came at it from the other end; doing CSD duty (backlog is very long right now). Twinkle doesn't allow editing summaries at all? I can see auto-fill in, but it ought to allow for additional text... I can't remember who wrote twinkle, perhaps they can update it? There should be a graceful way to inform people who come at the article from a different direction, but if TW doesn't let you edit summaries, that makes it more of a pain. I don't use TW, myself - how much trouble is it to "drop out" of TW and add the db tag and summary manually? KillerChihuahua?!? 22:45, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
Someone has already requested that upgrade (see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject User scripts/Scripts/Twinkle, "Add new config item offerReasonOnCSDTag to allow a custom edit summary to be entered") so hopefully that will be resolved soon. KillerChihuahua?!? 15:08, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Tom McNee

hi have noticed you are thinking about deleting my article on British boxer Thomas McNee, I assure you Tom is a boxer who is especially well known around the midlands in Britain, and was featured heavily in this months ring magazine which I urge you to purchase before deleting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbfcnfkcmnsuxh (talkcontribs)

well i havent assumed and surely his appearance in a worldwide magazine proves his word —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbfcnfkcmnsuxh (talkcontribs)

please explain to me why this is being deleted now —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbfcnfkcmnsuxh (talkcontribs)

On the supject of Cbnfck...

I tried to warn him for getting snippy with you on your user page as well as trying to explain to him why his article was nominated for deletion several seconds before he was blocked.

He would have been blocked anyway for his overly long, and confusing username... James Luftan 00:15, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Sean dempsey AfD

Just don't get any salt on the snowballs, they might melt! :D —Travistalk 02:50, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

About my article of "Gooer Remote Desktop Service"

I wrote a article with title of "Gooer Remote Desktop Service" recently and you request to speedily delete it.

Did you look into following article? Do you think we need delete them also?

The Original Barnstar

Original Barnstar.png The Original Barnstar
I noticed that your edits were impressive and so I've decided to award you this Original barnstar! BTW, Hope your RFA succeeds! Good luck! Wikidudeman (talk) 15:06, 27 July 2007 (UTC)


I notice that you placed an {{indefblocked}} template on the above users talk/userpage. Following an email I have now unblocked the user. Did you do the talkpage to userpage redirect? I haven't the faintest idea how to undo a direct and wondered if you could do the honours? Thanks, in anticipation. LessHeard vanU 17:30, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. Can you drop me a link (no urgency, when you have time) to the "how to" for redirects, I should be able to do them myself instead of badgering other folk. Cheers. LessHeard vanU 18:59, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks (again). If Wikipedia melts down in the next day or so it will because I didn't quite understand, but I am grateful for the attempt! ;~) LessHeard vanU 19:11, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

The big five-o

Congrats, TPH, your RFA has fifty supporters! I'm not exactly positive how the system works, but that should help.Supernerd 10 00:43, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Jesse Dirkhising AfD

If Jesse Dirkhising AfD is closed please update article tag and add appropriate talk page AfD header info. Benjiboi 01:49, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Your request for adminship

I am sorry to report that your recent request for adminship did not result in consensus to promote you. Please feel free to reapply in the future. Andre (talk) 02:06, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

I want to leave you with some advice, you can take it or leave it--I also could be a complete idiot too. First of all, you appear to eager to become an admin for admin's sake. I've observed two of your RfA's, and in both cases, you left the distinct impression that you wanted the admin buttons not because you wanted to help the project but because of some other reasons. Whether that impression is true or not, it's the one you've left with a number of individuals. Second, I think your responding to some of the opposes leaves a bad taste for me personally. I don't want to pile on here, because I think you need to read over the RfA responses, cutting through some people who have a vendetta (the prima facie evidence response didn't sit well with me), and getting to the few that have stated reasonable and logical comments about your application. There are very connected admins in this project--individuals who give a lot of volunteer time, whose support or opposition to any issue can be crucial, and who can help you. You need to mentored by one of those admins--maybe they can even nominate you. I can tell you there are certain admins that if they throw their weight behind an applicant, I'm there, and so are a lot of people. Take a deep breath, take some time at this project because you love the project, not because you want to be an admin. That's my advice for today.  :) OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 05:15, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I voted against your RfA but I hope with a bit more experience you make it next time. You do a lot of work and your heart's in the right place, don't let it put you off from contributing to the project. Nick mallory 06:45, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Sorry to see you were not handed the key to the mop cupboard. You are getting some good advice above, and you will hopefully learn which areas you need addressing. Consensus is one thing you stumbled on; If a majority is misquoting or misapplying a rule/policy, consensus goes with the minority who are getting it right (which is why admins have to know policy).
One other thing, only you will know when it is right to request Adminship. If someone will nominate you then fine, if not a self nom is perfectly reasonable. LessHeard vanU 11:14, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

I too opposed, but I believe at this time it was justified. I also admit it was a close thing between an oppose and a support. Your reply to me and your overall handling of the RFA where of admin quality, and I look forward to supporting you in any future RFA. In the meantime I look forward to working with you across the 'pedia, and, as ever, my very best wishes plus Happy Editing Pedro |  Chat  17:23, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Sorry to hear you were unsuccessful in your RfA. Maybe next time. I, too, was unsuccessful in my RfA, but thanks for your input. Useight 18:56, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Better luck next time. Sometimes you just have to shut your mouth and take it like a man. Don't upset the vandals and don't feed the trolls. Bearian 21:13, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

I Have Been Shamed!

Er, I mean, thank you for substunsigneding the afd for me. I was actually doing that and searching for something else simultnaeously and forgot to do that. Thanks! :) -WarthogDemon 03:21, 28 July 2007 (UTC)


Does the bit about AFD from your RFA message mean you'll no longer be participating in discussions there? I think that's unnecessary. No consensus on an RFA doesn't equal community sanction. VanTucky (talk) 19:11, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Good to hear you'll still be around. VanTucky (talk) 19:24, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Hear, hear! I've seen you around a bit now, and will continue to look out for your next RfA. --Fire Star 火星 19:47, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Review for you

Dear TPH, just wanted you to know I've left you a rather lengthy editor review on your page. I'm happy to continue the discussion, clarify anything, or whatever would be most helpful to you. So please feel free to contact me on my talk page or email me. Eliz81(talk)(contribs) 20:20, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Your RfA

I'm really sorry to see you didn't get through. Keep at it! Giggy UCP 22:55, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Just a quick question to TenPoundHammer: you had 50 to 33 votes, which is a majority of supports. So, a majority is not sufficient? Best, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 04:48, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Technically, and an RfA is not a vote process. It's a community discussion, where consensus is sought. A bureaucrat (I believe) reviews the discussion and attempts to see if there is a consensus. I've seen close votes end up passing an RfA, but rarely. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 15:30, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Okay thank you for the clarification! Have a sunny Sunday! Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 22:50, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Larry Stewart (singer)

Hi TenPoundHammer. You are off to such a great start on the article Larry Stewart (singer) that it may qualify to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page under the Did you know... section. The Main Page gets about 4,000,000 hits per day and appearing on the Main Page may help bring publicity and assistance to the article. However, there is a five day from article creation window for Did you know... nominations. Before five days pass from the date the article was created and if you haven't already done so, please consider nominating the article to appear on the Main Page by posting a nomination at Did you know suggestions. If you do nominate the article for DYK, please cross out the article name on the "Good" articles proposed by bot list. Also, don't forget to keep checking back at Did you know suggestions for comments regarding your nomination. Again, great job on the article. -- Jreferee (Talk) 01:36, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps that he went to Nashville to play baseball and ended up an American country music singer? -- Jreferee (Talk) 01:45, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


Hey, you may not quite be an administrator yet, but there's no doubt that you are an amazing editor whose contributions to Wikipedia are immense. Connell66 06:38, 29 July 2007 (UTC)