User talk:Android79/TalkArchive013
Enforced Mentorship
[edit]Since User:Beckjord has requested mentorship in the past, can you mention to the Wiki-court judges that User:Beckjord be placed under this ? I do not know where to place this plea w/o accidentally causing a disruption. Martial Law 03:14, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
- It's extremely unlikely that Beckjord would accept such an arrangement, and even if he did, I don't think it would work at all. android79 14:14, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Personal attack on you by User:Street walker
[edit]Hi
Thought this may interest you: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AMichael_Jackson&diff=37645322&oldid=37615261
This guy seems to be getting a bit "out of hand". Is there anything that can be done? Funky Monkey 07:55, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
- Well, that's really not a personal attack (and I don't believe anything I said was, either... I just offered my honest opinion) so no big deal. If it gets really out of hand, there are ways we can deal with this; an article RfC might be useful either way. android79 12:10, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
- I simply do not like being insulted when all I am doing is trying my best to improve Michael Jackson. In fact, my work on improving the article has been commended so I don't see where you are coming from calling me a "problem". Street walker 12:17, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
- Please, feel free to point out where I actually called you a "problem".
- In response to "Again I'm going to say, this is a talk page for Michael Jackson not a talk page for Street walker, and we should be discussing how to improve it, not complaining that it needs improving." you said "Identifying a problem is the first step in finding a solution for it." You can't tell me you weren't trying to say that I was the problem.Street walker 21:49, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, I can tell you that. I never labeled you the problem. My point was: in order to discuss how to improve the article, the flaws in the article need to be identified – you seemed to be worried that people were doing too much complaining and not enough discussing. I meant nothing more or less than that. android79
- In response to "Again I'm going to say, this is a talk page for Michael Jackson not a talk page for Street walker, and we should be discussing how to improve it, not complaining that it needs improving." you said "Identifying a problem is the first step in finding a solution for it." You can't tell me you weren't trying to say that I was the problem.Street walker 21:49, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
- By whom has your recent work been commended?
- By Oran e (t) (c) (e) who commended me on my talk page for my recent on work improving the Michael Jackson article. Street walker 21:49, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
- The debacle with splitting out the "personal life" section – for the second time, I might add – was roundly criticized.
- Umm... that wasn't me. That was User:Patrick.Street walker 21:49, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
- Don't get me wrong, here. Up until that point, your edits to the article were largely of good quality. I just think you need to take a step back and attempt to look at the article and its subject from a more neutral perspective. That's all. android79 13:19, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
- Well, thank you, and I will take your advice.Street walker 21:49, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
- Good. I hope we can work constructively from here on out. Unfortunately, I have very little time to do so, so my input to the article will mostly consist of advice and general suggestions for the time being. android79 21:58, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
- Well, thank you, and I will take your advice.Street walker 21:49, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
- Please, feel free to point out where I actually called you a "problem".
- I simply do not like being insulted when all I am doing is trying my best to improve Michael Jackson. In fact, my work on improving the article has been commended so I don't see where you are coming from calling me a "problem". Street walker 12:17, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
George W Bush article
[edit]My user name is LVKen7. I posted = that - it has been reported that BuSh does NOT read newspapers, and YOU took it off. When Katrina hit, they had to make a CD of what was on the NEWS to show him. Till that he had NO IDEA WHAT WAS GOING ON DOWN THERE. If I put it back will you delete it again? Hope Not. LVKen7@gmail.com
Elonka has taken it upon herself to remove the comments she objects to herself
[edit]Hi... would appreciate if you'd watch Template talk:Mesopotamian mythology, Talk:Eenasul Fateh and Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive68, as Elonka has recently targeted these three especially to remove the things she considers personal attacks... i.e. censoring comments she considers to be less than flattering of herself while making strong personal attacks on other people herself and encouraging others to do so as well. Phil Welch has threatened to block me if I undo her edits, but David Gerard and others opposed him on that. It's absolutely ridiculous that Elonka thinks she can get away with this.DreamGuy 18:52, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
- Phil Welch is not only still supporting her despite numerous admins and David Gerard saying the idea was bad, but he apparently reverted and locked Template talk:Mesopotamian mythology to her version. This is yet another rogue admin who needs to be stopped immediately. DreamGuy 19:33, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
- Yikes. Let Gerard know. I won't have the time to do anything about this for a while. android79 22:00, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
- I let lots of people know, nobody is doing anything. She then moved onto another page, Talk:Eenasul Fateh, putting in the edit comments that she supposedly was doing so under the direction of the admin board, which of course is another lie. One person I tried contacting for help, the Haukar guy she also accused of being my sockpuppet, suggests some neutral third party to agree on what gets "refactored" -- no, duh, nothing needs to be refactored, what the hell.
- Amusingly enough, I popped onto the talkpage for the aladdin magician article the fight started on and the people there are now finding more proof that the guy forged his credentials and lied and etc., just like I said from the very beginning, and then one of my most vocal openents supporting Elonka is denying it and calling people names for bringing it up... And people wondered why I suspected extra sockpuppets after the first ones were caught.
- So I am right on that, I am right on Elonka's lies, supposedly people don't want to cave into Elonka's ridiculous demands, yet she's merrily going along doing it anyway and being helped along. This is so messed up. DreamGuy 22:22, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Adminship ?
[edit]What is this like ? A Big headache ? If so, where do I find a tylenol that is Bigfoot strength ? I am considering running for the position, so I need good advice. You know where I can find a experienced Admin. ? Martial Law 03:26, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
I said I'm considering this, not actually doing it. Martial Law 03:27, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
Babe Ruth
[edit]I'm posting this message on you Talk Page either because you've contributed to the article Babe Ruth, or because you've edited other baseball or sports related articles. I've recently completed a revision of this article at Babe Ruth/rewrite. If you have the time, I'd appreciated it if you'd compare the articles and leave any feedback you might have on the rewrite discussion page. I'd like to reach a consensus before makeing major changes to the main article. Thanks for your help. --djrobgordon 20:36, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
Hi there
[edit]Hi there! I've lifted the page protection you added here...I hope you don't mind :-) --HappyCamper 01:46, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
A final decision has been reached in this arbitration case.
For the arbitration committee. --Tony Sidaway 06:16, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
User:Pinktulip
[edit]Hi Android and sorry to bother you with a long post. You made a couple of comments on WP:AN regarding the presumed sockpuppets User:Pinktulip, User:Emact and User:Fplay. You said you had nothing to say about recent behaviour but I'm very much hoping a disinterested admin can look into Pinktulip's talk posts. He continually revises his posts so there's no one diff I can present but perhaps you can read down from Talk:Terri Schiavo#Marskell is becoming destructive. I don't mind sarcasm but the repeated references to where I live are off-putting:
- "while a Canadian citizen, he prefers to live in country that does not know Democracy. Perhaps his time over there has effected his judgement in some adverse way."
- "Is he spending too much time with those heathens in the UAE or something?
- "pulling strings on the Admin notice board, and controlling our view of the information from your desert fortress. Come back to Democracy."
And then there's basic silly stuff "STUPID STUPID STUPID," "crazy," "information-detroying," ignorance-spreading" etc. He also seems to like to drop "nigger-lover" into conversation when he can as you'll note in the last post there. He's been warned gently by Proto [1] and more sharply by Tom Harrison [2] along with a few people stopping by with "take it easy" comments. But this seems to be doing no good.
Very sorry again to trouble you with a long post but as I say I'm looking for an uninvolved admin. Marskell 07:31, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
Almost...uncontrollable...urge...
[edit]...to make an account with a username like Michae1 J0rdan and reply to the anons on Talk:Michael Jordan. ;) --Syrthiss 16:56, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
- Dude, you read my mind... "Stay in school kids! Drugs are bad!" android79 16:57, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
Hi Android. Could you take take care of the talk pages too? Also, am I right that there isn't a better place to than WP:AN/I to get page moves like that undone? Thanks ×Meegs 17:55, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
- Hm, that's odd, I thought I took care of the talk pages. I'll fix that straight away. As for reporting these sorts of things, page-move vandalism is urgent enough to report on ANI, in my opinion, especially when it involves a possibly-compromised account. Also, rapid page-move vandalism generally indicates a bot attack, which is even more urgent. android79 17:57, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
Protected Pages
[edit]Sorry I removed the protection template on Norm Coleman. Is there a way for non-admins to check whether something is protected or not, without logging out and making a test edit (which would probably be seen as vandalism)? Thanks, Makemi 19:01, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
- No problem; since there's no way (AFAICT) for non-admins to determine the status of the page, I don't blame you. You might want to suggest that a feature that allows this be implemented, perhaps by starting a discussion in the technical section of WP:VP. android79 19:03, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
- Alright, thanks. Makemi 19:26, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for taking action with my account. Unfortunately, someone has guessed my password and is using the account for vandalism. They have now changed the password and I cannot do anything about it. I have asked someone who knows me personally to block the account. If you're around and want to do so beforehand, please do. If you need to confirm that I edit from this IP, you can request a CheckUser, but really there's no need. The other guy can't even spell "carried". I'm a meticulous speller! -- James James 203.206.77.40 00:31, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for that. How can I email myself a new password? I don't know what the vandal changed it to. Unfortunately I didn't notice what he'd done in time to change it before he could. Not to worry. So long as the account is not used to damage the encyclopaedia, I'm happy. Severance 01:23, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Forgot I was signed in! Severance 01:24, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
- Go here and click the button. android79 01:37, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
3 RRv ivolation
[edit]Please see the Jesus page and block User:Robsteadman for completely destroying the 3RR rule with now more than 7 or 8 reverts. Thanks.Gator (talk) 15:50, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Beckjord
[edit]I saw your comments on his talk page. He also made a round of vandalism against DreamGuy's usual pages. Don't you think it would be best not to acknowledge his edits in any way besides reverting them, though? He's beyond penalty now - he can't be banned any more than he aleady is - and getting any form of attention is probably a pleasure for him. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 19:11, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
- I know exactly what you mean; that'll be my last acknowledgement of it. I just wanted him to know that I'm aware of it – he seems to think he's being sneaky. android79 19:16, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Sick
[edit]Someone using a "?" IP is attacking User:DreamGuy. Can you place his user page under some kind of protection, and likewise protect his talk page ? Martial Law 07:09, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
I have him on my watchlist. Martial Law 07:18, 11 February 2006 (UTC) :)
Another Esperanzial note...
[edit]Hi again Esperanzians! Well, since our last frolic in the realms of news, the Advisory Council has met twice more (see WP:ESP/ACM2 and WP:ESP/ACM3). As a result, the charter has been ammended twice (see here for details) and all of the shortcuts have been standardised (see the summary for more details). Also of note is the Valentines ball that will take place in the Esperanza IRC channel on the 14th of February (tomorrow). It will start at 6pm UTC and go on until everyone's had enough! I hope to see you all there! Also, the spamlist has been dissolved - all Esperanzians will now recieve this update "newsletter".
The other major notice I need to tell you about is the upcoming Esperanza Advisory Council Elections. These will take place from 12:00 UTC on February 20th to 11:59 UTC on February 27th. The official handing-over will take place the following day. Candidates are able to volunteer any time before the 20th, so long as they are already listed on the members list. Anyone currently listed on the memberlist can vote. In a change since last time, if you have already been a member of the leadership, you may run again. Due to the neutrality precident, I will not vote for anyone.
Yours, as ever, Esperanzially,
--Celestianpower háblame 09:00, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
(message delivered by FireFox using AWB on Celestianpower's behalf)
A Deletion You Made
[edit]I would like to request that the deletion you made of "Jochen Dieckfoss" be reversed. Since I noticed there was a warning placed on the page, I did in fact put a hold in the code so an explanation could be posted. Instead, you went ahead and deleted it before a response could be made. The entry was not just pop-culture and Jochen was in fact an All-American collegiate runner at Boston University. While I did not write the entry, I know all of its contents to be truthful.
- I will not be undeleting the article, as it was a clear example of vanity. You are free to create a new article on this person, but please read WP:BIO, WP:AUTO, WP:V, and WP:NPOV before proceeding. android79 16:18, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
{{deletedpage}} and templates
[edit]Howdy. Wouldn't it be best to simply leave protected-against-recreation templates blank, so that the {{deletedpage}} notice doesn't get transcluded whereever the template is used? I thought this was the general practice, but I'm probably wrong. android79 17:55, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
- Well, the best way would be to use <noinclude>{{deletedpage}}</noinclude>, which looks like a blank page when transcluded but like {{deletedpage}} when used directly. Unfortunately, I forgot to use the <noinclude> this time (I'm still not used to it). --cesarb 17:59, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
- Ah, brilliant! I didn't think of that. Thanks. android79 18:00, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
Have you deleted or queued for deletion images inside this gallery? I cannot track them all without sysops permission. A.J. 22:17, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
- Could you please paste deleted gallery contents to commons:User:Ejdzej/Witkacy between "pre" tags? I'm downloading these images and I want to publish them in 2009 when copyright is expired. A.J. 13:54, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what that's supposed to accomplish. (Plus, I'm lazy, and can't remember my password on Commons.) Can't you download them using the links I provided on your talk page? android79 13:59, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Users LCIstudent, David123... and TeeCue
[edit]I know these guys, they all go to my school, and have all recently discovered Wikipedia. Don't be too hard on them, though they are making some pretty personal attacks. They think wiki is just all one big joke. I think we need to unban the IP's somehow because they access wiki at school (Lethbridge Collegiate Institute) and are creating havoc because no one else at school can edit. You can let Friday know about the situation. You can look up my contribs and see that I've been here for a while. Respectfully, Phoenix2 03:24, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
- I believe the autoblock will expire in 24 hours, unless something can be done about it sooner. It just seemed like juvenile vandalism to me, I don't see a reason to be particularly harsh on them either. But, we can't just do nothing, so if it continues, I bet people will continue to block. I think the best thing to do is encourage these guys to just cut it out. If they want one, have them start a wikicities account for the school or something, they can write about food fights there all day long. Friday (talk) 04:50, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Peca37 speaking. Hello Android79 I also know David123 TeeCue and Phoenix2, none of these three young students are the LCIstudent. They are worthy people and even though they get into some trouble, let them off easy they are just beginners. THanks a bunch Peca37 03:23, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
Sorry Android79 I keep clicking on the wrong edit icon. Sorry for the misconvenience
- I really don't care if they are one person or a dozen. I just want the people using those accounts to stop screwing around on Wikipedia. android79 03:27, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
wp:prod
[edit]Thanks for helping out with Proposed Deletion. I suggest that you should give a meaningful reason for deletion when you close PROD deletions; the reason "per WP:PROD" doesn't convey anything, and once the page is deleted that's all that non-admins can see. rspeer / ɹəədsɹ 05:17, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
- If this is a problem, then I suggest that we amend the "Closing guideline for administrators" to include instructions regarding more descriptive deletion summaries. I thought I was following the instructions. :-) android79 12:40, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Gmail
[edit]I've sent you a message, so you should be receiving it shortly. --Jay(Reply) 20:44, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks
[edit]thanks for fixing the template on Aaron Small. I couldn't figure out for the life of me how to fix it! :) 3H 15:34, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
Goodgood. By the way, have you seen the Terminator III article? It seems to be a rather pedantic rant about minor continuity issues, and fails to quote from any actual reviews, etc, etc. Morwen - Talk 17:36, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, that one needs some pruning as well. Fancruft strikes again! android79 18:35, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks
[edit]Thankyou for reverting the vandalism to my page! --Ali K 10:45, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
Hanuka
[edit]I would appreciate if you can do something about the personal attacks I suffer daily on Wikipedia from Haham Hanuka. I am a bona fida contributor in vandalism addressing, rewriting extremely sensitive articles, dispute resolution, pov addressing, categorization, renaming and deleting categories and articles with over 6,000 edits and an excellent edit history also on the Dutch Wikipedia (well over 20,000 edits). I am sorry I even have to say this about myself. Hanuka does not work by our policies and is already indefinitely blocked at the Hebrew Wikipedia. See Talk:Yigal Amir. gidonb 13:32, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
- I am giving it another shot. I have dealt with more difficult situation in the past. gidonb 13:49, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
- I have Yigal Amir on my watchlist and will keep an eye on the situation. If there are any other articles that could use some scrutiny, let me know. android79 13:52, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, Haham Hauka got me a while ago into my first 3RR trap in 3 years on Wikipedia. I was very shortly blocked by William M. Connolly. I think others had been more understanding of the difficulties addressing these kind of issues. This was a Saturday so the usual people who know me and him were not around. The unpleasant experience was that this admin later made weird allegations against me, unrelated to the 3RR. I wrote to him about it but he deleted my postings and he kept referring to the 3RR. I was quite embarrassed that an admin would imply such things about me, both on my personal talk page and an article talk page. What to do? I do want to run for admin myself, but only after this sinks and someone nominates me. I have been fighting vandalism so long just with my regular keyboard. I will wait longer because of this affair. Perhaps I should let it rest, he is a very efficient and hard working admin and can probably get away with it. Perhaps the damage was not so bad. The other articles are Yitzhak Rabin, Yitzhak Rabin assassination conspiracy theories, Assassination of Yitzhak Rabin, Yoram Rubin and Hagai Amir. Perhaps there are more. Anything that links to the unused assassination template by Toya. The unpleasant encounter with WMC was I think on the conspiracies talk page. It was an obvious mistake, but I was offended by his attitude about it. I hope I will do better as an admin, but that remains to be seen. I am a social science person. Haham Hanuka is not even my most difficult costumer. The other one is David Rutstein, but he is so far out there, that he always gets reverted. Thanks for your kind offer! Regards, gidonb 14:11, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
Hello Android, I have filed a 3RR complaint. Can you perhaps check it, also given my recent experiences? Regards, gidonb 18:01, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you by the way for all your assistance so far! gidonb 23:46, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
- No problem! android79 01:00, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks
[edit]Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my talk page. --Nlu (talk) 00:32, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
- ¡No problemo! android79 01:00, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for your review of the messy debate at Wikipedia:Deletion review#List of interesting or unusual place names. I felt your summation was very fair.--A Y Arktos 21:12, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
- It seems a reasonable compromise had already worked itself out. I hope no one is completely unsatisfied with the decision. android79 21:13, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
- Please note my comment on that page. -- User:Docu
- It seems a reasonable compromise had already worked itself out. I hope no one is completely unsatisfied with the decision. android79 21:13, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
Summary of views in Deletion Review of List of interesting or unusual place names
[edit](currently at Wikipedia:List of interesting or unusual place names).
- Do you agree with this summary? -- User:Docu
- Do I agree that these people "voted" this way? Sure. Do I agree that raw numbers ought to determine the outcome? No. android79 03:33, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, no, you've rearranged and otherwise edited some of the comments made. I don't know what the point of all this is, anyway. android79 03:35, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
- I removed the comments and kept just the summary given by the people who expressed an opinion. Admittedly R. fiend is just listed once. I was just wondering how you arrived at the conclusion that "For posterity's sake, I find that around 60% of the participants in this discussion alone (I did not tally the other discussions) favor deletion or endorse the status quo (maintaining the content in projectspace)." -- User:Docu
- I explained this in my closing: However, I find that a few of the undelete "votes" are based on faulty assumptions or arguments, and many of them express opinions that I find are compatible with the status quo. My decision was not based on the numbers, so this discussion is entirely academic, anyway. android79 04:28, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
- Just for the Academics: did you discard 15 of the 22 "restore to article namespace" opinions to arrive at the 60% or did you also discard some of the "keep deleted"? Bearing in mind that the discussion had taken place when the list was already in Wikipedia namespace, which opinions did you consider being compatible with keeping a list in Wikipedia namespace? -- User:Docu
- I'm afraid the notes I took when I was making this decision are elsewhere (hopefully I didn't discard them entirely). android79 04:53, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
RFA
[edit]Thanks for the info!Gator (talk) 15:48, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
This is getting out of hand again, and is showing signs that it will worsen, rather than improve, in the future. Any advice? --BillC 13:01, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Deleted article
[edit]User:Android79 i see you were the one to delete my page.
Why did you do this and who and what gives you the right?
Are you on some sort of power trip?
perhaps you will email me with an answer if you are not to full of your own self importance?
Steven Crayn
email stevencrayn@yahoo.com
- I deleted it through the new proposed deletion process in accordance with Wikipedia's guidelines on biographies, Wikipedia's guidelines on autobiographies, and Wikipedia's generally-accepted guidelines on inclusion of articles on musicians. If you've got a problem with that, take it up at deletion review. android79 15:16, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks!
[edit] Thanks for watching and reverting vandalism on my user page. Have a nice day — TheKMantalk 21:52, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Michael Jordan
[edit]No argument here. :) Hall Monitor 17:41, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
- Good. :o) For a guy who's nearly completely out of the celebrity spotlight, it amazes me how much vandalism and other silliness his article attracts. android79 17:43, 28 February 2006 (UTC)