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Kestecher was absolutely "an accused pedophile" - This violates no use.

Second, Im not sure why you feel the need to mix a suicidal idiot that was facing serious charges for the second time, with JCW. It has nothing to do with JCW....other than your desire to stick up for predators. Go away. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.83.168.252 (talk) 19:31, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

He was "accused of abuse" or possibly "accused of being a pedophile". He was not an "accused pedophile" since he was never convicted in a court of law.
The articles don't call him a "suicidal idiot". The presented articles put blame on those who publicized. This individual was featured on JCW's blog as well as Many Waks tzedek blog.
No one is sticking up for perpetrators. These articles are pointing out that there is basic human decency not to ruin a person's life based on an accusation. Other than the police and law enforcement - no one should become a "judge" and no one should take law into their own hands.Caseeart (talk) 00:24, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

CLEARLY, you're unaware of any truths. Second, your writing is like an 8th grader. Its absolutely pathetic. Thrid, he is an accused pedophile - after conviction, hes a proven to be actual pedophile. JCWs blog was shut down long before Ezzys decision to thankfully kill himself and save the entire world from dealing with another pedophile. His suicide is only proof of his guilt - not his innocents. Finally, he was able to avoid giving his victims justice yet another time, and you are also revictimizing victims. Shame on you...pathetic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.201.85.70 (talk) 16:36, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

I am aware of the three revert rule.[edit]

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Proposed deletion of Jean Hudson Boyd[edit]

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Vandalism concerns/strategies[edit]

Hello Caseeart,

In response to your comment on my talk page over concerns for repeated and/or minor vandalist edits over time on Jewish-related articles, I would suggest you get in touch with established users with a history in combating vandalism. As for myself, I prefer to focus on creating/adding content rather than patrol or do "wikignome" editing. I tend to create a few articles a month, watch them for a little while and then just let them be. I also try to write articles with little interest to vandals. E.g. Rather than writing a page like Manis Friedman, I"d steer towards writing one for Why Doesn't Anyone Blush Anymore a book he wrote (provided there are secondary sources, notability, etc. etc.).

I certainly appreciate that some users fight to protect WP from vandals. I think it is a noble cause.

I'd suggest getting in touch with User:Debresser, I think he does patrolling on Jewish pages and deals with vandals frequently.

Hope I was of some help. I.am.a.qwerty (talk) 00:24, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Thank You. I responded on your talk page.Caseeart (talk) 00:41, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
See my talk page for response. I.am.a.qwerty (talk) 13:04, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Haaretz bias against Jews[edit]

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I began an article, wrote half of sentences, and presented around 10 reliable sources on the topic. I will discuss in your talk page.Caseeart (talk) 10:36, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

@Lstanley1979: Thank you for your response on your talk page that other stuff does exist and even though there are BLP attack articles we should report those. However I did present multiple sources and I wrote almost nothing. I would like to discuss with the admin that decided to delete the article what exactly was the attack and for alternatives ways of presenting the topic in a Neutral point of veiw.Caseeart (talk) 08:52, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Your contributed article, 27 year Jail sentence of Sholom Rubashkin[edit]

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I deleted it. We never make this kind of article split, especially on BLPs. DGG ( talk ) 01:24, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
@DGG: I am not sure exactly what you meant. Will discuss on your talk page.Caseeart (talk) 04:05, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
I;ve sen your comment. Theb etter place to discuss this will be the BLP noticeboard. This is so fundamentally wrong in so many different directions that I find myself at a loss for how to explain it, and perhaps someone there will be more succcessful. Or if it is I who am fundamentally wrong, others will tell me so. that's possible also. DGG ( talk ) 04:24, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

For future references on this article topic I want to note the conversation I had with DGG:


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Thanks. I usually leave lengthy edit summaries. In this case that you are probably referring to - I wrote in the edit summery "As noted in talk page - per WP:BLPCRIME this allegation against relatively unknown persons should be removed." I specifically chose NOT to state the allegation for that very same reason. Caseeart (talk) 03:34, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

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August 2015[edit]

Stop icon This is your only warning; if you purposefully and blatantly harass a fellow Wikipedian again, as you did at User talk:VanEman, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. — MShabazz Talk/Stalk 00:43, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

@MShabazz -- Stop attacking other wikipedia users. Please explain any single harassment. Falsely accusing me of misconduct is considered an attack and you could be blocked. I am free to edit another user's page. Especially if the user ignores warnings. I want to see why you put a barnstar on this disruptive user's page - what were your real agendas. Now you are attacking me and acting like a body guard. Caseeart (talk) 03:03, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
@MShabazz Just noticed that the page "women of the wall" that both you and the other user created as a propagandic base to smear certain groups of Jews needs a total re-write. Currently I don't have time but we need to get back to that article. Caseeart (talk) 03:39, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
I didn't attack you—I warned you that you were engaging in harassment and would be blocked if you didn't stop. See WP:Don't restore removed comments. — MShabazz Talk/Stalk 03:57, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
PS: I'm sorry it took you half an hour to figure out why I gave VanEman a barnstar more than a year ago. I hope your reading skills improve. Perhaps one day you'll "notice" that neither VanEman nor I created Women of the Wall. Or maybe not. — MShabazz Talk/Stalk 03:57, 10 August 2015 (UTC)


Here was my seeking advice from an admin on this issue
Indeed. A user removing a warning indicates that they've read it, so putting it back is harassment. I don't want to get involved in this any further. Graham87 05:29, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
@Graham87 Ok thanks for your help and quick response - I guess the way to go about it is to report and not to undo their edits. Caseeart (talk) 06:30, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Caseeart You have to respect the right of a user to decide what they want to see or do not want to see on their talkpages. You can not, as in you are not allowed toת repost what a user has removed from his own user talkpage. I am surprised at your insistence on this issue, and I support MShabazz who has threatened to block you if you can't respect that. Debresser (talk) 07:38, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

@Debreser A. I did so not knowing of the policy, as you can see in both my edit summary and my seeking advice from admin B.The main thing here was that I have proof that the user either did not read or did not care at all -- since right after deleting the warnings the user continued. I therefore put it back on the page requesting user to read it (and they could delete it). It was not this user that deleted it was a different user (that I will deal with another time) that deleted it. A clear case of harassment would usually constitute when edit warring and user's talk page and forcing the owner to retain the information after they insist on removing it from their talk page. In either case I already made it clear that even this won't happen again. Caseeart (talk) 13:45, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
You could say you didn't know at the time of your first edit, but not when you made your second, identical edit after MShabazz reverted you and said in his edit summary: "Stop it; see WP:OWNTALK".
It was VanEman himself who removed the warnings in this edit. Why do you say that was another editor? Debresser (talk) 20:04, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
I saw that VanEman is deleting and immediately completely ignoring the warnings of the talk page. Prior to restoring the warnings on VanEman's talk page I clearly read WP:OWNTALK which does not mention any prohibition of any type of edit to another user's talk page. I then restored the warnings as a reminder.
A third user -Shabbazz (-will deal with another time-) is the one who came reverted my edit and deleted the warnings[1][2], not VanEman - I therefore restored them.
When Shabbazz reverted my edits he just wrote "Stop it; see WP:OWNTALK." without stating that this is not allowed. I later asked an admin and was also introduced to a page WP:Don't restore removed comments which does not allow this.
However even though this is not allowed - in order to be blocked you need to harass the user by repeatedly restoring the comment against their will. It sounds like you need to repeatedly revert the owner's deletion. In this case because a different user deleted the warnings [3][4] I don't see that restoring it is a clear case of harassment.
Anyways it was a mistake to begin with and will not be repeated. Caseeart (talk) 04:02, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
Okay. Pleasant editing. Debresser (talk) 09:12, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

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March 2016[edit]

Information icon Please refrain from changing genres, as you did to Mikveh, without providing a source or establishing a consensus on the article's talk page first. Genre changes to suit your own point of view are considered disruptive. Thank you. Music1201 (talk) 07:23, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Stop putting false warnings on other users talk pages. This is considered an attack and could have you blocked permanently. I did use the talk page Please do so as well I am happy to discuss. Also I see that you did not explain the reason for your edit and you did not join the discussion in the talk page either. Caseeart (talk) 07:25, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
First of all, the current status of the talk page does not appear to reflect consensus. Second, WP:Mistakes are allowed (in both of our cases), I simply was notifying you to not make large changes like that without consensus. And third, this is not considered an attack (I wasn't attacking you, just providing friendly reminders). Music1201 (talk) 07:40, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Ok. In either case I will wait and see discussion. Caseeart (talk) 07:42, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Cleanup Job[edit]

Recently there has been a user (Vaneman) who is repeatedly "attacking" articles about subject with histories of 1000's of years and dominating the article with a few WP:RECENT slanderous whitewashing the subject. In most cases it is about minority group of poeple or their customs. The user claims to be doing this in order to bring awareness about a certain subject. Unfortunately any BLP or subject who is part of this group now risks being defamed with blogstyle comments - only because they are part of this minority. This will be a big long cleanup job. It is also important to note how the edits summaries hide the true objective of the edits and often just say "adding info from"... without explaining the edit, and that the user repeatedly ignores and deletes warnings and blocks from its talkpage.

Important Note: As far as I have read - this is a cleanup and not harassment, and because I am not always active on Wikipedia - please allow at least a month for my response on any issue about this cleanup. Caseeart (talk) 06:07, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

April 2016[edit]

Warning icon Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by adding commentary and your personal analysis into articles, as you did at Yizhar Hess, you may be blocked from editing. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 07:14, 3 April 2016 (UTC)


Stop Harrasing me - I explained my edits very well and used talk page when needed I explained exact reason behind the edit.
  • You have not used any edit summary (besides ("POV").
  • Please explain your edits on an article.
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  • Please stop harassing me by placing false (or unexplained) warnings on my talk page.
  • If you belive that there was a problem with my edit please use the article talk page.Caseeart (talk) 07:27, 3 April 2016 (UTC)


Warning icon Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by adding commentary and your personal analysis into articles, as you did at Meir Porush, you may be blocked from editing. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 07:23, 3 April 2016 (UTC)


Please stop harassing me with a bunch of repeated warnings. I explained my edits and the exact reason behind the edit. Please place edit summaries as well and explain your edits on an article. Please stop harassing me by placing false warnings on my talk page. If you belive that there was a problem with my edit please use the article talk page.Caseeart (talk) 07:27, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
@Malik Shabazz: I actually think there is some merit to Caseeart's edits. VanEman has been inserting material into the articles of several MKs where they have criticised reform Judaism, and in many cases I think this has been undue. Number 57 12:50, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
Caseeart, I usually agree with Malik Shabazz's edits and judgment but there is a simple solution to what you call harassment. You can simply say, "User X, please do not post messages on my talk page except for required notices." This statement has usually worked for other editors in the past when they no longer want to communicate with another editor. Of course, if someone tells you not to post on their talk page, you have to respect their wishes and it only applies to ones own talk page. Liz Read! Talk! 23:53, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
@Number 57: I was attempting to correct a pattern of problematic edits. Malik Shabazz came and reverted my explained edits on 9 separate articles (harassment) without any single edit summary explanation for the revert other than the words "Rv POV pushing" on each revert. Malik Shabazz even ignored the talk page discussion on some of those articles. Caseeart (talk) 10:11, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

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April 2016[edit]

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Now this is a case. Gives me a warning of 3RR rule and then tries to get me blocked for 1RR. CaseeArt (Talk Nicely) 07:05, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion contested: Ron Schwartz[edit]

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I have removed the speedy deletion tag you placed on the article Ron Schwartz. You had tagged it for deletion as lacking context (which it was not, as the page had enough context to identify the subject of the article) and as an attack page - although there was a lot of negative information in the article, it was all properly sourced, so we can assume that the negative facts were true. Speedy deletion under {{db-g10}} only applies to biographies of living people that are both negative in tone and lacking sources.

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As I indicated in this edit [5], I decided to take a break from that article. To be honest, I should have sooner. Thanks for your concern for the project. Niteshift36 (talk) 04:25, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Ron Schwartz[edit]

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