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Toronto[edit]

Shlama

The picture that you posted for the ACOE in toronto, is that the one in Etobicoke off of Weston rd? second, Do you know if the church up the street, north of Finch close to the 400 is the Chaldean Catholic church? Al-Zaidi (talk) 22:12, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ASSYRIAN DEMOGRAPHICS ISSUE[edit]

The current sources used in the Assyrian People page are very unreliable and the person who made them picked and chose which 'facts' he/she wanted to post. There are MUCH more reliable than those sources currently being used. I Suggest we use the sources provided in Unrepresented Nations and People's Organization http://www.unpo.org/content/view/7859/93/ It states that: "Population

The total Assyrian population, including the Diaspora, is estimated at 3.3 million, with the majority living in the former Mesopotamia region, which is the Assyrian ancestral homeland covering northern Iraq, northern Iran, south-eastern Turkey and southern Syria. Outside of the Middle East, approximately 93,000 live in Europe, 300,000 in the U.S. and Canada, 64,000 in Armenia, Georgia and Russia, 33,000 in Australia and New Zealand and 150,000 in other countries." Chaldean can you please change the page to fit this reliable source Thanx for your time Malik Danno (talk) 20:49, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

hi!!![edit]

salam, just like to say high. i was looking at my talk page and i saw that you said hello to me on january but i didn't answer you back. i know it is a bit late.thankyou for your comments.we need to make the arbil fc page even better.I have a view ideas. hope we can discuss. one idea is, i think the page is missing images. we should add a image of the team.

Bradford[edit]

The information on Bradford's page is false. You need to have it deleted. He made up the information himself, and has not appeared on any of the shows he listed. I am his father, and it did not come to my attention until recently that he even had made a page. If you can't havit deleted, please let me know of a way I can go about having it removed. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rhssoccer (talk • contribs) 05:07, 4 April 2008 (UTC) Mo1993[reply]

so[edit]

So with all this hectic anti-assyrianism going on, I was just randomly wondering whats up with you? Last I heard you were in Greece, right? You said that you wanted to work in diplomacy between the US and the Greeks so I heard, or something like that. Hows that going? Do u live in the US? Tourskin (talk) 04:08, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What insults - you mean against Dab? I'll tr to keep a cool head. Tourskin (talk) 04:14, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Detroit hey? So ur a bad ass Assyrian; have to deal with the rough tough streets of the area. If you ever get to San Diego, let me know lol. Right, I was side tracked, more so because I could not get the article to be renamed to "Assyria under the Persian Empire", because Dab did something. Tourskin (talk) 04:17, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Speaking of remaining calm, please don't make my talk page a battleground against arameanists. Tourskin (talk) 21:57, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Dab asked for a change in username, behold: Assyrian and proud of it. (talk) 22:40, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Excluding me from the argument isn't sweet. Assyrian and proud of it. (talk) 22:57, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok thanks for the clarification. Just wanted to know what was up. Is my username damaging? Seriously, I don't want them to not take us seriously because of my username. Assyrian and proud of it. (talk) 00:35, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]


I think this is one is fine. I am a neutral editor (talk) 00:38, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The persian empire also did not end in 330 BC, because Alexander retained all administrative structures of the Achaemanids, thats why the Parthians resurrected the empire so quickly after the demise of the Selucid Empire. You might wanna add that. I'll monitor the discussion and throw in points at ur tak page if you wanna add them. I am a neutral editor (talk) 00:55, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well actually Parthia arose whilst the Selucid Empire was still around. In the 3rd century BC, a strong Selucid Empire subjugated the Parthian Empire as vassals before the Parthians rose up and then destroyed the Selucids. Check out Parthian Empire, it rose up from the ashes of Darius' empire I am a neutral editor (talk) 01:01, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ok then - I guess it was fun for a day or two having such a Nationalistic name. Pride is one of the seven deadly sins. Assyrian and proud of it. (talk) 00:38, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
They are all Iranians and so can be considered as different dynasties of the same empire; thats how they ere able to claim legitimacy. See Persians#HistoryI am a neutral editor (talk) 01:08, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good job with the talk page too. I am a neutral editor (talk) 01:11, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Its cool I guess. Yes the artwork is beautiful. It depicts our subjugation!!! Lol but its good for the article. I am a neutral editor (talk) 17:07, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I know its not a drawing, I called it art because its beautiful. Yes, I said it would be very good for the article we are working on. Hey, if we want to put holes on the Cambridge History of Iran theory, its best to check out their credentials. For instance, R.G. Grant wrote a History of Battle book, yet his lack of knowledge on pre-modern warfare is obvious in the book, as I found out when I realized he had not written any books on pre-modern warfare. For example, if we could show that few of the Cambridge writers if any had any expertise on ancient Iranian history it would weaken the source further. I'll do my best to look in to it. I am a neutral editor (talk) 17:14, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Actually the book itself they use is on Median and Achaemenid periods, by many contributors. So much for tha theory. I am a neutral editor (talk) 17:19, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It appears we have won the day Khouny. Check out the third opinion. I am a neutral editor (talk) 22:34, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not at all. Thanks, I sometimes flip out. I have lost patience but you haven't. Thanks alot dude, you've really held the line well there. If we keep the article's old name, then I owe you a mesta (yogurt) drink!Assyrian and proud of it (talk) 04:27, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent. I know a priest in San Diego who comes from Detroit, so next time he flies back there I'll give a mesta to send to you. The trick is getting the proportions of water, yogurt and if u like the taste (as I do) salt right. I always make it too damn watery!!!Assyrian and proud of it (talk) 04:33, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Dude, u so gotta come here. Lol. Assyrian and proud of it (talk) 04:37, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Quickly finish ur degrees and then see if u can apply for a good job here!! Assyrian and proud of it (talk) 04:37, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Lol yes you need to recharge the brain. Pousheb shena. Assyrian and proud of it (talk) 04:45, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

HAPPY ASSYRIAN NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![edit]

WOOOWWW!!!!Tourskin (talk) 04:36, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Damn, can't believe I forgot to drop by here to wish you a new year bro, sorry about that. Anyway, hope you and your family the very best for the new year, if it's not too late. :) Pink Princess (talk) 12:47, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately[edit]

Unfortunately it is one of the best known poems in the language, and widely taught in schools, and based on a well-known biblical passage. I suggest you pick something more rational to get offended by. --Relata refero (disp.) 07:13, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, dear Friend[edit]

Can you do me a favour and undo in the article Kosovo the version to my version? They avoid to tread Kosovo like other countries despite the fact, that there are much more disputed countries which are treated in a country-style way with country box and flag at the top, like for example Nagorno-Karabakh_Republic or Transnistria with no country recognizing them or like Northern Cyprus with only one country recognizing them. If you are convinced that this is an unjustified inequality in handling this case I would appreciate your undoing as I suggested. --Tubesship (talk) 12:08, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, problem solved, Husond brought the box up. :-)--Tubesship (talk) 12:15, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Assyrians[edit]

Hi there!

I am so sorry because I am only experienced about Asian ethnic groups.

Angelo De La Paz (talk) 04:30, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK! I will keep a keen eye on this article and I'm totally agree with you [1] because in my life and by my knowledge, I've never heard some words as "Elleniko, Yavan, Yonani, blah, blah, blah" (it was so un-needed, superfluous and confusing). Thank you!Angelo De La Paz (talk) 04:48, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I haven't been much help in the discussion in the various Assyrian articles. As you may have known by now, I am a better editor than a discusser, even though Philosophy is one of my Majors (the other is Human Bio!). If a new discussion does pop up, let me know but I find it difficult to assist if its already been gone on for so long, as have many of the debates regarding the Assyrian articles, cos its tedious looking back thru so much stuff. Tourskin (talk) 05:09, 5 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've done a lot? Lol dude, you single-handedly defended the article with supreme diplomacy and skill, and tacit research. I don't think the words well done sum it enough. Tourskin (talk) 05:15, 5 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox in Kosova[edit]

Hello Chaldean, it is me again. :-) I guess you could be helpful in this ongoing discussion if you want to have an infobox in the article like there is one in every countries article. I thank you in advance for your support: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kosovo#The_Infoboxes. --Tubesship (talk) 12:42, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Babylonian rule[edit]

Heres the deal; Cyrus was expanding left and right and so a coalition of Babylon and Lydians attacked Cyrus at the Battle of Sardis. The defeat inflicted on the Babylonians was particularly devastating, since it allowed Persia to extend her power over the rest of Asia Minor. With this initiative (and perhaps extensive territory), Cyrus raised large armies that marched onto a defeated Babylon. The Babylonian King was a bit of an idiot according to Bertman, Stephen (2005). Handbook to Life in Ancient Mesopotamia. New York: Oxford UP. and may have failed to reorganize Babylon's defences. Grant in his book "Battle" says that a battle may have taken place outside the city in which the Babylonians were defeated.

So to conclude, the distant Persian victory at Sardis over Babylon 1) exposed Babylon under an incapable ruler to attack 2) reduced her ability to face an attack due to the defeat. Tourskin (talk) 06:18, 5 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pousheb shena khouny, I'm going to bed. Tourskin (talk) 06:18, 5 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Any chance you'll stop by Boston for the Assyrian convention this year khon?Tourskin (talk) 05:25, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Too bad. We gotta meet up some time. Tourskin (talk) 05:38, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I might hed to Detroit some time to check out my relatives there. We should meet up then lol, if we can. I know you have a busy life. Well, you don't need me to give you advise, but hard work always pays off khony. Tourskin (talk) 05:52, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Awesome. Till then, its wiki-chat lol.Tourskin (talk) 05:54, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank again bro[edit]

Thanks for the pic khouny, it's beautifull, Mesopotamia or Iraq is a beautifull, resourcefull and rich place full of some of the greatest people on Earth, who live together peacefully and have an unbreakable spirit to rise up again despite whatever is inflicted on them. Shame about whats happening now. Anyway, besides the little nationalistic speech, it's an awsome pic, and I really appreciate it. thanks bro, I'll try putting it on my main page. :) And by the way, I am Nabuchadnessar. I've decided to change my name since Torskin changed his lol. Besides, I am much more than a lineage/identity/nationality, so I'm changing my name to suite me better as a person. ;) Pink Princess (talk) 12:56, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Karamles[edit]

Hey man

We could do with a few of your great Karamles photos in ar:كرمليس. Any chance you could upload some, adding the specific permission that you received from the photographer?

Regards --Lord Anubis (talk) 14:22, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply, my name is not "Haider" btw :p, I have not revealed it on wiki :). --Lord Anubis (talk) 22:32, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bahira[edit]

This article has been significantly censored by Avenger again. Do you want me to take a look at it?Tourskin (talk) 02:36, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, as much as I hate Religious extremism and Political correctness, I will see what has been removed, check it with Avenger and see if a concensus can be reached. If not, I'll get an admin to sort it out. Not someone who backs down from a challenge.Tourskin (talk) 02:43, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Georgia[edit]

I've always had a love for this country. Something about being one of the only two Christian states to survive in the Middle East. I should have figured we had something to do with it. For the first few hundred years after the ressurection of our Lord, Assyrian monks formed the heart of the Christian Mission in the East, until our works were un-done. I skimmed it briefly but promise to read more when the time becomes available to me. Tourskin (talk) 02:44, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Persian Mesopotamia move[edit]

I know of one admirable admin on wikipedia; me and him (User:Yannismarou} edit a few Byzantine Empire articles. I'll ask, but the dude gets busy to the extent that he doesn't even seem to have much time to participate in his Greek Byzantine articles. But I'll try and see if I know of any other admins. Tourskin (talk) 04:17, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe we should vote on behalf of Dab, Doug and Folatin, since they seem to care soooooooooo much about the article. Tourskin (talk) 04:35, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I was out of town. I hope my support helped and was not too late. Greetings, --Tubesship (talk) 01:27, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

check discussion[edit]

[[2]] VegardNorman (talk) 20:40, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Genocide[edit]

Hello, you have to excuse Meowy's poor manners on his talkpage, you see, he is not Armenian, but someone who's interested in Armenian history and in that context the word united can not apply to him. And it was for this reason that he made that remark. Otherwise, Yes We Are[3] :) --VartanM (talk) 06:47, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

West syriacs[edit]

shlama. can you please place a delete tag on article "Syriac people" so we can move article "west syriacs" to syriac pepole. or can you contact admin for speed deeletion. VegardNorman (talk) 08:41, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Achaemenid Assyria[edit]

Well, there are good sections (the archaeological part is the best one, I plan to translate it into Spanish as soon as I have the time), but the abuse of terms as satrapy, governorship and the like is in fact a big problem. Most of the references that talk about an "Assyrian satrapy" are either:

  • outdated (Maspero, Hall); or
  • right or wrong, are regarded as psudoscientific by modern concensus (Sweeney).

It leaves Parpola as the only updated reference that refers to Athura as satrapy. Note that in his comprehensive syntesis (1196 pages!!), Briant doesn't mention any satrapy called Assyria, while he mentions all the rest.

I think it is the only important problem (I'll make some corrections as soon as possible), but the rest is quite alright. Amizzoni (talk) 19:33, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good luck then. I'd like to make a revision and create a section on the Syria/Assyria problem, but I think I'll have the time to do so properly no earlier that on June... Amizzoni (talk) 04:47, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The Barnstar of National Merit
Well done for your tireless and successful effort in this article and for other Assyrian articles. Tourskin (talk) 23:49, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
this WikiAward was given to Chaldean by Tourskin (talk) on 23:49, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

VICTORY!!

Lets take things one province at a time lol. Although I agree. Tourskin (talk) 02:02, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Tell that to Dab. Maybe he'll realize that logical arguments win the day? Tourskin (talk) 02:08, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

adherents[edit]

Syrian Orthodox Church (Jacobite) - world - 4,000,000

Syrian Orthodox Church of Malabar - India:Kerala - 5.600.000

Syrian orthodox church´s 4,000,000 does not include the indians. [[4]] VegardNorman (talk) 14:01, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]


The article "west syriacs" is now moved to "Syriac people" VegardNorman (talk) 14:30, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Grrrrr[edit]

Wait what?? lol. icelandic hurricane #12(talk) 11:45, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Abecedar[edit]

What are you doing?

Yesterday: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Abecedar&diff=206087258&oldid=206055158

Today: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Abecedar&diff=206238910&oldid=206222799

66.96.249.229 (talk) 14:20, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My user page[edit]

Hey, that's great Chaldean, many, many thanks. Greatly appreciated, I'd struggled a bit and gave up (I'm in the US right now, figured I'd look at it when I got back to the UK but now I don't have to).--Doug Weller (talk) 14:49, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

hi[edit]

What do you think about the work I done on the Arbil FC page. Earlier in the year you weren't happy with what I was doing and you even said it to mussev(i read is discussan page). I was new but now I think I have got the hang of using wikipedia. I also think I have dramaticly made the arbil fc page better. I think we got of in the wrong foot.hope we can be friends. --Mo1993 (talk ) 1:59,19 april 2008 (UTC)

other football pages[edit]

Salam Chaldean. Does any other retaled iraqi football page need to get expanded.We should kind of do what we done the the arbil page like template to do other iraqi football clubs. I have got spare time to take part in other pages. Please message me back with what work I can do. --Mo1993 (talk ) 14:49,19 april 2008 (UTC)

yesssssssssss[edit]

I finished the 2004/05 league.I also edited the 05/06 and 06/07.They needed miner changes and a bit of tiding up.Hope you like it. Message if other pages need doing. --Mo1993 (talk ) 22:11,19 april 2008 (UTC)

Archaeological fndings[edit]

I haven't forgotten, but won't have time for 6 or 7 days -- don't let me forgot.--Doug Weller (talk) 21:16, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

TfD nomination of Template:AL LargestCities[edit]

Template:AL LargestCities has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — DerRichter (talk) 18:34, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your edits[edit]

I like your edits related to syriac articles. AramaeanSyriac (talk) 18:37, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Im really happy to see you building up the article. And great picture you added, but arent they syrian orthodox as described in the image page? AramaeanSyriac (talk) 19:23, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]


thank you very much brother AramaeanSyriac (talk) 08:38, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tumba[edit]

So I've seen you've been to Tumba, Sweden. [5], also check this mr super pov editor, Arameiska/Syrianska KIF. The TriZ (talk) 11:16, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Muslim Assyrians[edit]

This article has become such a horrendous messI don't know what users have vandalized what. Both Assyrian Christian fanatics and Muslim extremists have messed up this article. Could you please give me a hand or better still revert it to the correct version? For ease, just edit a correct version and it should be fine from there, no need to do multiple reverts. Thanks khouny Tourskin (talk) 01:00, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hellow[edit]

Hello my brother. There is user WestAssyrian that is running an assyrian struggle here in wikipedia. He is replacing Syriacs with Assyrians in all articles related to the groups. What can we do about him? AramaeanSyriac (talk) 10:20, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Chaldean could you talk to ArameanSyriacs and tell him to stop destroying the Assyrian pages he only write Arameans and Syriacs its very wrong to describe us as only Arameans-Syriac he is not neutral! --WestAssyrian (talk) 22:07, 14 May 2008 (UTC

Chaldea the aramean-syriac are only 0.5 million cuz we are not counting the assyrian-syriac! the article is not describing the assyrian-syriac --WestAssyrian (talk) 13:39, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image copyright problem with Image:Anfal1988assyrianchurch.jpg[edit]

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Christ is Risen[edit]

Hello Chaldean, could you email me? I have a history question and you are the most likely person to know the answer and or have a knowledge of the history. My email is on my profile page. LoveMonkey (talk) 14:08, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hockey templates[edit]

Please stop adding the "xxxx stanley cup champsions" templates to articles. They've been deleted numerous times by the ice hockey wikiproject. I've started a discussion section here if you're interested.-Wafulz (talk) 15:50, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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Shalmaneser 1 page Joe Baker (talk) 10:28, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[edit]

Catch my comment on the talk:Shalmaneser 1 page, would like your comment on removing a sentence that you retsored.

Church in Canada[edit]

The Church in that picture looks alot like my church here. Awesome pictures.Tourskin (talk) 05:42, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I added in two khon. Tourskin (talk) 00:42, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Assyria article[edit]

Splendid, capital work in making it a GA. I wish I could claim the credit, but there is no doubt you had the Lion's share of work and therefore deserve the Lion's share of credit - having said that, I will add this article to my list of GA's! Fairwell khon!Tourskin (talk) 05:54, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Your skills in improving the article are great, outweigehd only by the humility in refusing to take credit. Yes we do make a great team, but I still think you deserve the Lion share of the credit. Anyways, those images you found are pretty awesome and its descriptive and thats great. Sorry haven't been much use lately but double majoing at UCSD is not a smart thing to do and finals are coming up lol. Well if you have exams, good luck in them! Pousheb shena. Tourskin (talk) 06:40, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Orange county

Its about 95 miles; almost two hours driving. Not too far. Let me know when ur coming, maybe you culd drive a little south lol, towards san diego and then we could have a chai at starbucks lol. Tourskin (talk) 06:44, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thats sounds awesome too. Hope your trip is fulfilling in a business and fun way lol. Anyways khony, I have to get to bed, its 11:45 pm right now at SD. Thanks again, and good night. Tourskin (talk) 06:45, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Lol, I know what u mean and the gas isn' too cheapo either . Look forward to it, chai is on me khon. Tourskin (talk) 06:46, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Assyrians Syriacs Chaldeans[edit]

What the hell has happend here the latest months? How come there are different articles for the same people? How come there is Syriac and Assyrian music? It is the same! --Yohanun (talk) 20:28, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, nationalism...[edit]

Not sure we've run into each other on wiki-talk yet, but I wanted to drop you a comment on the increasing problem of non-neutral editing by nationalistic contributors. I'm writing because I feel that there are nationalists (including Assyrian nationalists) who, while certainly contributing (and sourcing) their views, are finding undue weight for their opinions by means of disruptive editing; mostly edit warring until they get their way and [1][2][3][4][5][6][dont you dare mess with my edit now that I have 20 sources] over-referencing. I understand that you're a part of the Assyrians WikiProject, and I'm addressing my comment to you because you seem to have the most level head. (e.g. you show a willingness to work with others and a general respect for Wikipedia's policies)

My own experience with these problems has not been with Assyrian nationalism in particular, but instead it has been in ancient Greek articles, where nationalists from areas that were Greek in ancient times, but independent today, insist on various Albanian, Macedonian, and other (mostly Slavic) nationalities for their favorite ancient Greek heroes born in that area. (You might be somewhat familiar with those controversies, as your user page has you interested in 'Balkan' history) In contrast, the conflicts involving Assyrian nationalism (from what I can gather, and I'm quite new to this subject) seems to involve nationalists vs. nationalists (those identifying as Assyrians and those identifying themselves by other terms, such as Syriac and Aramean) - a motley crew of emotional editors, to be sure.

I'm not sure that I'm asking you for any one particular thing, just basically making an appeal to you, asking you to be at the front of that WikiProject in trying to maintain Wiki's neutrality policy in the face of some of these emotionally-charged edit disputes. Editors from the project don't need to choose every battle, and force their views by endless reverts. Also consider that not all citable sources are necessarily neutral either. (The biggest issue here being that nationalistic and ethnocentric scholarly journals are used by editors who simply cite 'Journal of <<insert nationality>> Studies, vol 4. pg. 25-26' and have the attitude that now they've cited something in print and so they are justified in edit warring any further changes to that sentence with edit summaries like (don't remove reliable sources!) (leave sourced content alone!), etc.) The disputes on Wikipedia over ethnicity seem to have no limits. Consider the case of Niko, the Grand Theft Auto character. As WP:LAME now points out, "At one point, the article contained five consecutive citations, repeated each of the three times the character's nationality is mentioned, totalling a whopping fifteen citation numbers throughout the article to justify the purported nationality of a fictional video game character."

In other words, keep your head. -Brando130 (talk) 18:55, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Translation[edit]

Shlama khonee, what exactly do you want me to translate? Is it just the quotation by Jimmy Wales? The link you gave me kind of freezes when I try to scroll down. Is there a second page to the PDF file? Anyway, my knowledge of the writing (that is, the old language) isn't that great either, but my spoken modern-day language isn't bad. Here's what I have of the translation so far, tell me what you think (I tried using words that were both in the old/written language and the modern language, so we have a compromise):

ܫܪܘܓ(ܘ) ܚܕ ܥܠܡܐ ܐܝܟܐ ܟܠܢܫ ܒܐܪܥܐ ܐܝܬ ܠܗܘܢ ܡܦܣܢܘܬܐ ܠܟܠ ܚܟܡܬܐ ܕܒܪܢܫܐ. ܥܒܕܝܢ ܚܢܢ ܗܢܐ
"shrug/shroogoo" ("imagine"???) kha(dh) `alma (or "dunya" if we want to use a modern Arabic loanword) ayka kul nash b-ar`a eeth lhon ("they have") mapsanootha ("permission") l-kul khakhimtha d-bar nasha. `awdheen khnan hana.
Literal translation: "Imagine one world where everyone on earth has permission to all the wisdom of mankind. We're doing this."

You might want to tweak a few words here and there, and get it checked out by someone else since I'm not too sure that it even makes sense. I never took formal classes, and my head is too wired to English... :( --334 (talk) 02:07, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This Jimmy Wales quote is certainly the hardest part! We had a lot of trouble getting it right in Swedish, and Swedish is very closely related to English. Yes, the PDF has 2 pages (format A4 / letter size). It is printed doublesided, and folded to get a 4 page (format A5) brochure with the puzzle globe on the front page, detailed information on the centerfold and the Wikimedia logotype on the last page. (I guess the pages should be in the opposite, right-to-left direction for Aramaic.) Sometimes it helps if you right-click on the PDF link, save the document to your computer, and open it outside of your web browser. --LA2 (talk) 06:11, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I hope I am being helpful here by offering some translation tips and thoughts. The classic version of the quote is "Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge." There is a new version which is the formal vision statement for the Foundation, but I will just talk about the original today.
"Imagine a world" - the idea here is to talk about envisioning or dreaming positively, the idea is that there are many possible futures, depending on choices that we make, and we are asked to imagine a particular future, one that we can choose.
"in which every single person on the planet" - in English, this could be written literally but less poetically as "in which everyone" or "in which everyone on the planet" but it is written the way it is to give emphasis to the individuals, to invite the listener to imagine a random single person somewhere who now has little access to information.
"is given free access" - here we probably run into the problem of the word 'free' in English, which means both "gratis" (free of charge) and "libre" (liberty). We mean primarily the 2nd meaning, but it will depend on the particular language as to whether "libre access" is a concept which can be smoothly expressed. Since we also mean "gratis" as a secondary meaning, that can be used.
"to the sum of all human knowledge" - the idea expressed here is that we are not talking about "all knowledge" or "all wisdom" but to the "sum" of it... the essentials, the basics, the kind of thing that belongs in an encyclopedia.
I hope this is helpful.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 18:09, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Don't take it in the wrong way, but I'm guessing not many in Sweden will understand what is written by 334 (whom did a good job), because not many can speak Assyrian Neo-Aramaic or Eastern Syriac. I know it is difficult to translate that and makin it sound good, though I really think Jimbos tips and thoughts helped alot to make it easier. LA2, a tips for you if your searching for people who really knows how to write in the language, the best place to seek help is in... church. Those who knows the language best is all involved in the Syriac church, I can guarantee you that. My uncle knows Syriac excellent (is teaching it out), I can check with him when I see him the next time (no guarantees though). The TriZ (talk) 09:57, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I forgot to inform you LA, that there are two distinct dialects of the language, so it would be difficult have only a single flyer and except all to understand it. Perhaps you can translate it into both dialects and put it all in one flyer. Chaldean (talk) 14:48, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps we should scale this attempt back to just a single page poster (or postcard), presenting the puzzle globe with the text "Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia", followed by the "Imagine..." quote, and then some white space that can be used for a local message? --LA2 (talk) 14:13, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Syriac[edit]

Well, I don't like them because they're not reliable. It clearly states in both sources that the priest was indicted because of an interview in the Hürriyet. I don't know if you know Turkish, but Assyrian in Turkish is not Süryani, but Asuri. But as you know, many people -- either willingly or not -- misinterpret those words and think they are the same. Most Syriacs in Turkey will define Süryani as either West Syriacs or all Syriacs, and Asuri as members of the Church of the East. Not even all East Syriacs, because Chaldaean Catholics are referred to as Keldani. But of course, a simple news article won't tell you that, and neither does a letter from a few Congress members. And since when are politicians to be considered reliable anyway?? --Benne ['bɛnə] (talk) 21:25, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Don't be silly. The AP article is based on a Turkish newspaper article, which I provided. There is not the slightest reason to assume that the priest considers himself to be an Assyrian, plainly because AP relies on another newspaper. In that case, we cannot use the secondary source, but should use the primary one, which is the Hürriyet. --Benne ['bɛnə] (talk) 21:30, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

assyrian people[edit]

Syria: 735,000 assyrians. the source only tells about syriac orthodox or syriac catholics. The same source tells us there are 75,000 assyrians in syria, not 735,000 [6]. what do you think? AramaeanSyriac (talk) 22:20, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hattrick and Michael the Syrian[edit]

I once had a team in Hattrick, but never really played it. But i've been playing ManagerZone.com, also a football (soccer) site, but also hockey. It's bigger than Hattrick, and also started in Sweden, I had one of the best teams before but now I have a new team...

About the source of Micheal the Syrian, it says "The kingdoms which have been established in antiquity by our race, (that of) the Arameans, namely the descendants of Aram, who were called Syriacs.". Clearly it states that he is a Aramean. Why are you being childish? You didn't change it when it said "Michael the Syrian (also known as Michael the Great; or Michael Syrus) (d. 1199 AD) was an Assyrian refHistory of Mikhael The Great Chabot Edition p. 748, 750, quoted after Addai Scher, Hestorie De La Chaldee Et De "Assyrie"[7]. A source that DOESN'T says his Assyrian. So, you threatening me, calling me nationalist warrior, etc. is just you being double standard. The TriZ (talk) 02:53, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Check the ref, "The kingdoms which have been established in antiquity by our race, (that of) the Arameans, namely the descendants of Aram, who were called Syriacs.". He says our race, the Arameans, includes himself.

Lol, that would be fun to see actually. Though there are players in the Syrian national team whom are Syriacs (Louay Chanko for example plays with them now), so its good that you conviced them cause its only right for it to be that way, cause I know in ManagerZone, there are Swedish player with names like Mohammed and I think it was the same with Hattrick? The TriZ (talk) 03:14, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Arab American[edit]

Hey there. I am not sure how to formulate myself but these statements they are making are false, 70% of those so called Arab Americans are of Syriac heritage of the Maronite, Melkite or Syriac Orthodox Church who migrated to America several of decades ago. These three branches of Syriac Christianity are also Assyrians (western) and should not be called Arabs as they do not see themselves as Arabs.

By the way, how come we allow these vandalisation on the Assyrian, Syriac and Chaldean people, shouldn't all of these articles be merged into one Assyrian/Syriac/Chaldean people?--Yohanun (talk) 13:42, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Saving the Civil War in Iraq article[edit]

I noticed that you had communicated with me re Assyrian issues. On a related concern, the Civil War in Iraq article, I'm asking your help on the following: Two editors, one and IP address editor, and another, have been deleting the infobox table. If you share my belief that this is a useful table, I hope that you can participate in the defense/ restoration of this infobox.Dogru144 (talk) 21:49, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lol[edit]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_at_the_2008_Summer_Olympics

So much for that. Tourskin (talk) 22:55, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Arabs image[edit]

Hope you have noticed a user, without discussion or concensus created a new image for tha Arabs page. He started a talk about it on the talk page. As someone who took part in creating the original image and reaching the concensus, please state your view their. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.177.164.24 (talk) 21:25, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kings of Assyria[edit]

Hi Chaldean, I see you've submitted the Kings of Assyria list for featured list before. I've added references and would like to submit it again, if you don't mind... Historicpastime (talk) 21:09, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't look like you've edited in a while, so I went ahead and nominated it. Historicpastime (talk) 21:38, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hope all is well[edit]

Hey Chaldean Theodore of Mopsuestia's article could use some attention. God Bless Chaldean. LoveMonkey (talk) 17:17, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The WikiProject Greece August 2008 newsletter[edit]

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Vandalizing[edit]

Hello, lately there have been many vandlaizing attempts on the Assyrian People page. 204.107.82.210 has been putting very disturbing comments on assyrian elated topics. He has used profaninty, and he has mocked the assyrian antional heritage with his incompetent posts that belittle and insult assyrian related topics. I am not familiar with how to block this individual from posting these outrageous posts. Please if you can do something to put protection on the Assyrian People page and somehow block this user from editing it will be very helpful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nineveh 209 (talk • contribs) 20:35, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Chaldean have you looked att the Assyrian pages?? the Syriacs are vandalizing all the pages! look at the "The history of the Assyrian people" page they have change it to "History of the Syriac Christians" and they have change many other assyrian pages! there are 2-3 user "ArameanSyriac" , "Dbachmann" and the "Trizz" that are destroying and change everything from Assyrian to "Syriac" we must tell this to the admin! --WestAssyrian (talk) 12:13, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

commons:Commons:Deletion_requests/Image:Ashurnasirpal_II.jpg#Image:Ashurnasirpal_II.jpg[edit]

Please add your comments on commons:Commons:Deletion_requests/Image:Ashurnasirpal_II.jpg#Image:Ashurnasirpal_II.jpg. Any information on how reliable that permission is, is welcome. Teofilo talk 10:20, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]



Hello Chaldean[edit]

Wouldn't you like to join us at wikiraqi.com ? Your knowledge would enlighten us !

History of the Assyrian People[edit]

Hello Chaldean I would like to greatly thank you for all the work you have done for our people's history. I have notcied you were gone for awhile and I would like to say it is great to have you back. Wiki Assyria is not the same without you and your intelligent contributions. Chaldean I wanted to bring something to your attention I have noticed several changes done to The History of the Assyrian People can you please take a look at this, Im not sure why the name has been changed to the this. Thank You 69.226.97.74 (talk) 00:18, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I'm working on it. Chaldean (talk) 06:30, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Syriac text[edit]

Would you look at Image:-universalsyriacscout.png and see if you can make out what it says? It probably says something like "Be Prepared", or "Always Prepared", and I have need of the text. Thank you! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 15:37, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Chaldean[edit]

I admire you and your work; May God continue to protect you and your family and all persecuted christians in Iraq. Chaldean I found this on the web and I think you will really like it because it talks alot about assyrian history such as Tatian, Assyrian Monks of Kublai Khann and many others. I think this website will be a powerful source of information for Wikiproject Assyria. Please do visit it and check out all the blue links under Articles and Books.

http://www.aramaicpeshitta.com/online_version.htm

I hope this helps out in many ways.

and also here is some websites on the 13 assyrian fathers

http://www.concordtravel.ge/portal/alias__concordtravel/lang__en/tabid__1437/default.aspx

http://www.concordtravel.ge/portal/alias__concordtravel/lang__en/tabid__1497/default.aspx

an article on assyrian Massacre

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9E0DE4DA123AE033A25757C1A9629C94689FD7CF&oref=slogin —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.17.86.24 (talk) 22:33, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

69.225.6.25 (talk) 00:15, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the links, but why don't you sign up and start working on some articles? Here in Iraq, our internet is very slow, so I won't be able to work on articles as I did before. So if you can, sign up, and start editing :) Iraqi (talk) 07:25, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You're in Iraq now? cool. Well, not really, and yet it is. By the way, I don't know what more we can do with regards to the Assyrian page. I do want to have one page, but it looks like the only compromise we can reasonably get is one page for all under Syriac Christians. Its stupid, but what can we do? I've fired all my bolts, I don't have much more energy to argue with these guys, so I am afraid that you're kind of on your own, for now, though I might pop in and around - the arguing has gotten me a civility warning at ANI and I almost got blocked. Sorry khon. Gabr-el 04:13, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

History of the Assyrians and Assyrian People Again[edit]

Hello Chaldean user:dbach is at it again in completely changing this page to meet his negligent views. He has added all of the flags onto the assyrian people page without any conversation wahtsoever. This page is strictly about the assyrians and not a stupid laundry list of villages who claim otherwise. Please get an admin to block this user he is constantly disrupting our project and changing sources and information around. He has significantly changed both the history of the assyrians and the assyrian peoples page, this has got to stop someone needs to block this user from doing this. He has no discussion consensus and when you try to talk to him he dissmisses all claims. He is very narrow minded. God Bless —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.225.10.154 (talk) 23:37, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There are more "Syriac" user that changes the assyrian pages! there are atleast 3-4 user "dbach", "ArameanSyriac", "The Triz". We must get an admin to block these user they are constantly disrupting our project and changing sources and information around. --WestAssyrian (talk) 14:18, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Listen, I live in Iraq, where we don't have 24 hour-electricity. And when we do have electricity, we might not have the internet working properly. So I think you are asking too much from someone in Iraq to monitor pages. You guys live in the West where you have the fastest internet access. Do your work within Wikipedia's rules. Iraqi (talk) 07:13, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello.. how can user "Dbachmann" lock the "History of the Assyrian people" page?? he have re write it to "Syriac history" which is false! the page is about the History of the Assyrian people! --WestAssyrian (talk) 23:14, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Assyrians[edit]

It is an option for you to open a move request where the destination is open, e.g. History of the Syriacs → ?. If a current name is imperfect, generally it is not a good idea to request specifically an alternative that will be just as or more controversial, as was [apparently] the case here. Likewise, if you know what kind of opinions are out there, you maximize your chances of success by using that knowledge to propose a new name that is likely to reach WP:Consensus. All the best, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 07:17, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Contact[edit]

Could you give me your email? I want to talk to you in private lol. Gabr-el 02:01, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Chaldean[edit]

It is I, LoveMonkey and I hope all is good for you and your brothers, you and yours are most beloved. Again in the Season of Good News and our God Jesus Christ may all of yours be blessed and joyous. LoveMonkey (talk) 14:05, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PS Chaldean I think that it would be good to discuss free will with you. From say a Nestorian perspective. Since metaphysical libertarianism has as a tenet the need for a dual or double existence (body and spirit). I am beyond curious on if what Nestor was doing might have something to do with him responding the need for Free will (if you do not respond I still wish you all the best my friend).

LoveMonkey (talk) 14:12, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Eastern Articles that could use modern sourcing[edit]

The article Greco-Buddhism could do for example with some more sourcing from Persian and or Syrian first person modern sources. I was wondering if you knew any. LoveMonkey (talk) 16:17, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Assyrian Genocide[edit]

Hello, I just want to point out that the Assyrian Genocide [[8]] has been vandalized by some Aramean nationalists ... From the point of 'Conditions before WWI' all the cases where the article said Assyrians, the nationalists have changed it to say Arameans!! This needs to be dealt with. Thank-you. Malik Danno (talk) 17:28, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Assyrian Translation[edit]

It's good to see you back editing Meeawkrah. Your lack of presence was felt by all of us here, I have been praying for you and your family to remain safe in Iraq akhonee.

Below this I have left an identical message to Assyria 90.

I have just created a new article entitled Assyrian Pentecostal Church. I am trying to expand the history section of the article and I could use your assistance. I have come across three pages in Assyrian and I want to ask you if you can take the time to translate them into English for me so I can incorporate them into my article. I can see you are very talented in translating articles from Assyrian Aramaic to English so I came to you for some help. I would greatly appreciate it if you can translate these all into proper English. I am having some trouble finding the words in English to describe the words used in this document. If you have any time

I have taken the time to scan and upload these images to this website for easy access. Click on the images to get a zoomed in version for a better look, the font gets bigger and easier to read. The first file is the cover page of the book. The second and third images talk about the church’s history from its inception to present day. I dont need a translation of the first page because I already know it but I do need the rest. I am looking for other users who can contribute to the translation as well, so if you're not able to, it's ok. Again Thank you in advance.

A long deserved Award Friend[edit]

The Original Barnstar
This Award should have been given to you long ago my friend. You have contributed more to WikiProject Assyria then probably anyone else in it's existence. I reward you this Barnstar for the countless contributions, good articles, scholarly sources, and tireless effort you have put into making the Assyrian Related articles far more prestigious, noteworthy, and reliable for the rest of us. I salute you and I am sure many feel the same appreciation I do for the work you have put into this project. Continue the good work, we still have long ways to go Ninevite (talk) 07:05, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Khayet[edit]

Khayet, for your hard work The Barnstar of Assyria

Gabr-el 00:03, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lol ur welcome. Sorry I missed ur message. Gabr-el 01:20, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Assyrian politics in Iraq[edit]

Just a note to say thanks for your work on this article (and others of course) - excellent and valuable summary of the topic! Thanks also for your appreciation of my edits too! Let me know if there's anything we can do to collaborate together on articles.

The Original Barnstar
For your excellent on-going work with articles on Iraq, generally


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Your latest edits[edit]

Just wanted to let you know that you already have broken the 3RR in Baqofah, so I suggest you stop edit-warring. Consider this as a friendly advise, since I could simply report you and with your history of being blocked for edit-warring in mind, you would probably serve a longer blocking time. The TriZ (talk) 20:43, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Edit warring[edit]

Hi Chaldean, this is a warning to stop edit warring at Middle East and other articles. A quick glance at the history of this page shows that while there has been frequent reverting on the main article, there has been zero discussion about it on the corresponding talk page. Although there appears to be one or two reverts each day, please keep in mind that users can still be blocked for edit warring, regardless of whether they violate the three-revert rule or not. The 3RR is not some kind of magic barrier, and gaming the system is considered equally disruptive. Please stop edit warring or else blocks of some shape or form will have to be issued. I'm going to also warn The TriZ and Shmayo. Regards, Khoikhoi 23:37, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

User warning[edit]

Regarding the page Baqofah, please don't remove copyright warning tags from pages. Only administrators may remove these tags, except in the case of vandalism. Stifle (talk) 18:17, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello their, regarding Baqofah, it is vandelism, that is why I removed it. Please see the talk page of it. Iraqi (talk) 04:46, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No, the tagging was not vandalism. It was requested by the copyright holder through OTRS. Stifle (talk) 08:07, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Paulos Faraj Rahho[edit]

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Just a heads up that the article passed GA review. Info is linked from the talk page. --Clay Collier (talk) 22:05, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello[edit]

Hello Chaldean. Are you active in the Syriac related articles ? JeanVinelorde (talk) 12:05, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again. Thank you mate. Okay then, im expert on West Syrian rite (Traditions, culture, history etc). It is very interesting for me, both East and West Syrian. Ill contact you if i need any help. JeanVinelorde (talk) 11:03, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Please join discussion[edit]

In [[9]]. Thank you JeanVinelorde (talk) 12:10, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

European Syriac Union[edit]

Hi there,


Whats up with you to put up misleading information about European Syriac Union on the wikipedia webpage. Dont you feel a shame about that...???

Regards, Saygur —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saygur (talk • contribs) 20:59, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Qamishly artical[edit]

I can't understand why A syrrian admin thy trying to chang the history,by bring the wrong and untrue to the wikipedia,it is really shem,for this admin to do that and sell hem self for syrian government very chep,it is very sad to change truth to the falth informiton —Preceding unsigned comment added by Assyrian dog (talk • contribs) 13:31, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Assyrian (Assyria) just relegins (Christian) it’s not nation[edit]

We know as a Muslim Arab people there are no nation called Assyrian it’s false name, we know there are few hundred Christians living in Qamishli ,and they came from Greece and Turkey as asylums and Syrian government give hem full right in Syria ,and most of them they went to Europe and America, Canada .we never heared about Assyrian in Qamishli ,maybe a few people left in Qamishli not more than 200 people.

Assyrian (Assyria) just relegins (Christian) it’s not nation[edit]

We know as a Muslim Arab people there are no nation called Assyrian it’s false name, we know there are few hundred Christians living in Qamishli ,and they came from Greece and Turkey as asylums and Syrian government give hem full right in Syria ,and most of them they went to Europe and America, Canada .we never heared about Assyrian in Qamishli ,maybe a few people left in Qamishli not more than 200 people.

Assyrian (Assyria) just relegins (Christian) it’s not nation[edit]

We know as a Muslim Arab people there are no nation called Assyrian it’s false name, we know there are few hundred Christians living in Qamishli ,and they came from Greece and Turkey as asylums and Syrian government give hem full right in Syria ,and most of them they went to Europe and America, Canada .we never heared about Assyrian in Qamishli ,maybe a few people left in Qamishli not more than 200 people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.109.84.9 (talk) 12:35, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello fellow Assyrian[edit]

I've been on Wikiproject for a wwhile now and wanted to say Shloam il' Ikhoon. It pleases me to see Assyrians on wikipedia and hate it when people say its a religion or they've never heard of it. I'm glad there are quite of bit of Assyrians(myself included.). By the way...I translated a bunch of articles from German to English for the article by hand. A few maybe roughly translated but most(especially yesterdays for which I recieved a compliment) are wikipedia quality. If you want to check them out--there are links on my userpage of my created articles or you can go to the wikiprojectAssyria-"Articles to Translate' section and find the ones I made. Nice meeting a fellow Assyrian:)--SchnitzelMannGreek. 22:41, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I didn't notice there was an Assyrian Barnstar. I was in the middle of designing one--LOL!--SchnitzelMannGreek. 22:42, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a list of my aricles:

I also created this for the project(not translation):Naheere(Syriac Orhtodox)SchnitzelMannGreek. 22:50, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

BY THE Way...[edit]

I noticed your conflict with user:The TriZ and I greatly admire your perseverence to preserving the identity of our people. By the way...I am Assyrian and when people asked I also said that it is known as Assyrian or Aramaic. Is that wrong? At least we're not being called Arab because that really bugs me for Assyrians are not Arab. But tell me more about the word syriac. Is it different? I mean user:The TriZ says he's syriac...and I always said it was the same..I think. Personally--its much better than being labeled "Arab".lol..SchnitzelMannGreek. 00:12, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • In my opinion...being Assyrian...if someone called me Syriac, i'd be very proud. I know about the conflict now but I see that Syriacs and Assyrians have sort of merged into one identity. I'd love for people to call me Syriac or Assyrian(but not Arab!!-LOL!)When people mistake our ethnic group as Arab..it makes me furious. So lets not worry wether we be called Assyrian or Syriac, let us(Assyrian or Syriac Christains) unite against the oppressive arab governments that threaten to wipe our total identity away. Assyria for ever!!--SchnitzelMannGreek. 00:21, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Chaldean Syriac Assyrian Popular Council[edit]

A tag has been placed on Chaldean Syriac Assyrian Popular Council requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about about a person, organization (band, club, company, etc.) or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable

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Removing Speedy at Chaldean Syriac Assyrian Popular Council[edit]

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July 2009[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you removed a speedy deletion tag from a page you have created yourself. If you do not believe the page should be deleted, you can place a {{hangon}} tag on the page, under the existing speedy deletion tag (please do not remove the speedy deletion tag), and make your case on the page's talk page. Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. Thank you. There is a Road, No Simple Highway (talk) 15:52, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the speedy tag, as notability is asserted (and probably established since I member of the party was elected). However, please try to improve the article through copy editing as it currently reads pretty roughly. --ThaddeusB (talk) 16:33, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles for deletion nomination of Chaldean Syriac Assyrian Popular Council[edit]

I have nominated Chaldean Syriac Assyrian Popular Council, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chaldean Syriac Assyrian Popular Council. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 18:54, 5 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors. Thank you. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 19:12, 5 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • FWIW, I didn't see any personal attack or questioning of good faith in that AfD. Drmies (talk) 04:25, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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