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Reference List Question[edit]

The command |2 divide the references list in two columns. Phósphoros (talk) 05:54, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation[edit]

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Your nomination at Articles for Creation was declined, and Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Template:2007–08 Horizon League men's basketball standings was not created. Please view your submission to see the comments left by the reviewer, and please feel free to request article creation again once the issues have been addressed. Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! fetch·comms 01:30, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Category: Horizon League[edit]

City boy77, glad you dropped me a message. Generally speaking, an article or other element should not be listed under both a given category and either a parent or child of that category. For example, 2010 Horizon League Men's Basketball Tournament is categorized under Category:Horizon League Men's Basketball Tournament. That category in turn rolls up into Category:Horizon League men's basketball, which in turn rolls up into Category:Horizon League. You don't want to over-categorize articles because then the higher-level categories become messy and unweildy. See Wikipedia:Categorization for more on this. Jweiss11 (talk) 17:44, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Horizon League[edit]

Thank you for your contributions to this seasons Horizon League mens' basketball season. I am in the process of writing short game summaries for Detroit. It looks like someone is already covering Butler. Right now I'm concentrating on just maintaining Detroit's game by game summaries as I have other priorities, but hopefully by season's end we can have game summaries for all Horizon League team season articles. I need to give the conference tournament articles a once over at some point, as well.

Again, thank you for your hard work in maintaining all of this. The Horizon League became my favorite league when I found out they had a website designed to stream their games for free. That's how I found Detroit. It seems like a lot of teams from last year are stronger this year. Hopefully Detroit finds their stride soon and stops jacking up so many 3s :( ..anyway, please keep up the awesome work! Agent VodelloOK, Let's Party, Darling! 04:19, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you so much for posting! This is the first time I've ever had someone acknowledge the pages, so I'm glad my work is being noticed. Hopefully it's helpful. I concentrate mostly on Butler but try to keep the entire league updated. I believe this is the first season that each Horizon league has a men's basketball team page. I haven't been doing it for very long and I certainly don't know everything but if I can ever answer a question, don't hesitate to ask! City boy77 (talk) 06:24, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
Sure thing. Thanks for your support on the Wikproject College Basketball page. I'm still worried one day someone is going to delete the game summaries with an excuse that it is cruft, some word they made up one day and like to use when they want to delete material from articles they never liked in the first place. It's my hope that many years down the road these season articles will be the #1 reference for college basketball fans, enthusiasts, and historians to learn about the histories of these teams. Butler may be having a down year, but there are other teams in the league ready to step up and take their place like Cleveland State and Loyola Chicago. Detroit has the talent, but lacks shot discipline. I think when the tournament expands to 80 teams, we're going to see multiple teams from the Horizon and Missouri Valley doing major damage to the big money schools.
I can't promise that I can maintain the Detroit article every day since I have a chronic illness, but I will try to update the game summaries when I can. Yesterday was a double overtime thriller on HLN! I became a fan of the Horizon League because they have free video streams of many of their games online. That's dedication.
Again, thank you for your efforts. Even if Wikipedia dies, I do think this data will be retained in some shape or form, and many years down the road fans will appreciate all the hard work you put into making all these Horizon League season articles. I wish I could write game summaries for all 10 teams, but I have a job. :P Have a great day. Agent VodelloOK, Let's Party, Darling! 00:15, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm not dead yet. I've been away for a while with some frustrating issues. I'm very busy at the present time, but I will at least add one game summary tonight. Hopefully nobody looking for brownie points will swoop in someday and delete it as "fancruft" and then get a barnstar for all of his "hard work" for his ability to click the delete button on content that takes me quite a while to create. Some people just don't get that we're here to write an encyclopedia, not erase it. Thank you again for your tireless efforts. The Horizon League should e-mail you with, like, free tickets and a plane flight to their tournament, or something. You're certainly dedicated to my favorite college basketball league. :) Agent VodelloOK, Let's Party, Darling! 05:14, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Still not dead. Thanks for continuing your work on the Horizon league by creating the season articles. Still need to finish my Titans gamelogs, but I'm going to try and keep current with the 2011-12 article first. Thanks again for getting the article started Agent VodelloOK, Let's Party, Darling! 00:16, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Good to hear from you! I've broadened my involvement with the project by creating not only the yearly articles for each Horizon men's basketball team, but also the yearly pages for the teams they will be playing. Unfortunately, I've only done this for Butler's opponents thus far. I'm hoping to get to the others but I simply can't make the commitment right now. Regardless, any help on the Horizon articles is greatly appreciated. Hope you're doing well! City boy77 (talk) 00:53, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
I'm not upset! You didn't do anything wrong. The Manual of Style is what I don't like. I just remember having to fix like 100 dashes in several articles a few months ago. Now, as for the articles you've created. Wow. That is dedication. I wish there were more editors like you on Wikipedia instead of the weird editors here that seem to get off on being passive aggressive drama mongers that don't give a damn about building an encyclopedia (and some of them are administrators!) You're one of the reasons I haven't given up on this site. I won't be able to do much because of some health problems that have required 12 pain nerve blocks in the last 6 months, but I'll try and at least get Detroit's 2011-12 article as complete as possible by season's end.
I'm wishing the best for Butler this year, as well as the rest of the Horizon League. The NCAA committee is probably scared to put two teams in to the tournament, as they know the Horizon league always shreds brackets, no matter which team goes. In a perfect world we'd have Butler, Cleveland State, Detroit, and maybe a fourth team like Milwaukee in the tourney this year, knocking the crap out of everyone in their way! Horizon League vs Old Dominion or another CAA team in the National Title Game, that's what I want to see. Agent VodelloOK, Let's Party, Darling! 01:13, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

CSU Attendance[edit]

Yes, I will fill it in soon. --SportsMaster (talk) 00:53, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Explanation[edit]

Just so you're not wondering why I reverted your edits to a couple Horizon League templates and all of the HL men's basketball coaches, I wanted to give you the explanation. Replacing the entire templates of {{Horizon League Men's Basketball Player of the Year}} and {{Horizon League Basketball Arenas}} with the coding from the template {{HorizonLeagueBB}} goes against what the point of a navigation box is supposed to achieve – accessible navigation. There are some issues with making the POYs and coaches use the catch-all Horizon League Basketball: For one, it makes is less apparent what the navbox is even doing on the player or coach's page ("Why would a conference-wide basketball template be applicable to a player only?" is not an unrealistic question a reader might have). It also buries the POY or head coach navboxes into less accessible sub-navboxes, which means the reader would first have to click [Show], then find the appropriate sub-navbox, click [Show] again, and then find the player or coach. These are unnecessary and annoying steps, especially when having separate navboxes specific to Horizon League Players of the Year and Current Coaches is much cleaner and more effective. Lastly, per WP:NAVBOX, under the very first property (Navigation templates provide navigation within Wikipedia) there is a bullet which says:

  • "They should be kept small in size as a large template has limited navigation value. For navigating among many articles, consider:
    • Split them into multiple, smaller templates on each sub-topic. For example..." Jrcla2 (talk) 13:07, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know. I honestly do appreciate it. I'm clearly still learning. City boy77 (talk) 16:54, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

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Talkback[edit]

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Template:Indiana Colleges and Universities[edit]

Either Hyles–Anderson College needs to be removed from the template, or the template's title needs to be changed to be equal to the template name. Hyles-Anderson is not accredited (and proud of it) by the information in the article about the college.Naraht (talk) 20:33, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Hyles-Anderson is not on the template. City boy77 (talk) 20:36, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
Whoops, I assumed that since the template was *at* Hyles-Anderson College that it was on the template. It should be removed from the Hyles-Anderson College article, I think then...Naraht (talk) 21:07, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

WP:CBBALL discussion[edit]

Before making wholesale changes on certain types of navboxes at WikiProject College Basketball, we'd like to get some other editors' feedback. If you feel so inclined, there's a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College Basketball#College basketball program navboxes - standards which could use some input from editors such as yourself. Thanks. Jrcla2 (talk) 01:41, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

2011–12 Valparaiso Crusaders men's basketball team[edit]

Only reason why i removed the Georgia Southern link, is because They do not have a men's basketball team page. So the page should be linked to the Georgia Southern Athletic page. Only other reasons why I changed IUPI, IPFW, is because they don't have any yearly team pages. Hope I clarified it and you understand. Great work on Valpo's pages. Bearcats fan (talk) 23:12, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Butler colors[edit]

City boy77, I saw you tweaked the colors for the Butler basketball navboxes. Should the colors for Template:Butler Bulldogs football coach navbox and Template:Butler Bulldogs baseball coach navbox be similarly changed? Thanks. Jweiss11 (talk) 19:10, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes. I changed them to the hex the university says to use in their marketing office. I didnt know about those templates or I'd have done it then. I'd do it now but I'm on my phone. City boy77 (talk) 19:32, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Sigma Nu chapter list[edit]

Tweeked a few things. Mostly looks good. The major issue that I see right now is that some of the schools have the chapter letters spelled out with the greek in parentheses and some are reversed. This needs to be standardized. I suggest that it be of the form Alpha Beta (AB) Note, you are doing the AB right as greek letters, well done. I suggest the use of the Template:chapter for fixing that. You may however want to look at Template:FratChapter if you really want to make things work well. I know that the awards would have to go in the notes section, but I'm not completely convinced that the awards are Wikipedia appropriate.Naraht (talk) 20:57, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

  • I recently found the Template:Chapter and was going through the list of Sigma Nu chapters to improve the sortability of the chapter designations. I created the page in my userspace because I did not have time to complete the change all at once and I didn't want the table to become chaotic in the meantime. With the Template:FratChapter, does it sort it according to the Greek alphabet (e.g. Zeta before Omega)? If so, that would be a better option. City boy77 (talk) 21:23, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
  • That's a great idea. Let me know if there is any way that I can help. No, fratchapter doesn't force the order, I think you need to use Template:Chapter inside the chapter=parameter on Template:FratChapter. If that doesn't work, I'll help with experimentation.Naraht (talk) 01:14, 5 November 2011 (UTC)


  • I went through his contribution list and revered those entries which were the last ones for that particular page and put a note on his page. If you notice it happening again anywhere, I'll help with the RR.Naraht (talk) 01:14, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

The Running Man Barnstar[edit]

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The Running Man Barnstar is awarded for distinguished efforts in sports-related articles. This barnstar is intended for those who give 110% in order to advance Wikipedia's coverage of the world of sports. Thank you for your staggering amount of contributions to the season articles of all basketball teams of the Horizon League, and for your exemplary dedication to the Butler Bulldogs. Agent VodelloOK, Let's Party, Darling! 01:22, 5 November 2011 (UTC)


And remember as I said in the discussion above, I'm not upset at all. Quite the opposite! Agent VodelloOK, Let's Party, Darling! 01:22, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

I've never been given a barnstar before. Thank you! City boy77 (talk) 02:08, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Basketball naming conventions for certain schools[edit]

I just noticed where you had moved "VMI Keydets basketball" → "VMI Keydets men's basketball" (whereby User:Keydet21 reverted the move, correctly so). Certain schools either don't have women's basketball teams at all (VMI, The Citadel) while others use entirely different nicknames for their men's vs. women's basketball teams (Georgia Bulldogs vs. Georgia Lady Bulldogs). In these types of instances, the consensus that was reached a while back was that including "men's" and "women's" in the article titles is redundant. To wit, why would Georgia's women's team be called "Georgia Lady Bulldogs women's basketball team". Sounds kind of weird and unnecessary, no? The same concept applies to VMI. Since there's no women's program, why bother with the gender identifier? For the complete list of how the naming conventions work for each of the schools, you can always double check at the WikiProject College Basketball Master Table. Jrcla2 (talk) 21:03, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. Rest assured that I was aware of this usage, evidenced by my creation of 2011–12 Savannah State Tigers basketball team and 2011–12 Chattanooga Mocs basketball team. This was a case of me simply overlooking that VMI does not have a women's basketball team. I checked to make sure they had women's sports since I was not initially certain the school was coed, but the possibility of them having women's athletics but not women's basketball did not even occur to me. Personally, I think it would ease confusion if articles included a gender designation whenever a school uses the same naming convention for both genders' athletic teams, even when a school doesn't offer the sport for both genders. Regardless, I will continue with the standards that have been set forth. City boy77 (talk) 21:22, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

2011-12 Big South Standings Template[edit]

is there anyway you can fix the big south standings template, if you click on the e for edit, i get the redirect page #REDIRECT Template:2011–12 Big South Conference men's basketball standings. no one can edit the standings right now, was going to add the cbblink template thanks for all the work you do: Bearcats fan (talk) 003:50, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

  • I think Jweiss11 (talk) went ahead and fixed the issue. Please make sure you don't use the cbblink template for any of the current year articles, (i.e. Gardner–Webb and VMI). This should always be done where the current year's article exists to avoid #ifexist overusage. City boy77 (talk) 05:22, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Template:User butler[edit]

Re this edit summary: How the heck am I to know what Butler fans would prefer to be in there? I don't know anything about Butler, or what you would personally prefer to be in the box. Frankly, I don't care. What I do care is that a blatantly non-free image was in the template in violation of WP:NFCC #9. I removed it. Done. --Hammersoft (talk) 14:54, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

It's called Butler University. Put in a B or a BU or Butler or something, anything close to the title of the template, rather than the copyvio image. It's one thing to police images, which I recognize is a thankless but needed job, but it's frustrating when blatantly obvious courtesies are not afforded. Regarding your above message, this is a project that we are working on together and one of the policies of this project is to assume good faith. What you view as "blatantly non-free" was in my 2010 mind a picture that featured geographic shapes that existed along the same lines as the Indiana University logo and the Notre Dame logo. In 2012 I now know that there is a difference between using the offending picture and using two letters. Had I remembered the image even existed I would have suggested the deletion myself. However, in 2010 the image in question was not blatantly non-free to me and to insinuate otherwise could be seen as a failure to assume good faith. Furthermore, if you don't care then why are you posting on my talk page? It would appear that you have become very defensive about the work you do on wikipedia even if you proselytize otherwise, which is human. Again, you do a thankless job. That type of work requires the ability to use common sense to minimize conflict. Perhaps you have this common sense but it has been clouded by too many editors complaining about you reverting their editing efforts. I honestly don't know. City boy77 (talk) 15:13, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
  • I've performed thousands of these removals. I can't be expected to know what every fan wants in every userbox, and the image shouldn't be allowed to remain until I could figure one out. A non-free image was used. It was removed. If you don't like the result, you were welcome to fix it, and did. If that isn't courtesy, tough. I fail to see how the image of a bulldog could be viewed as geographic shapes. "Butler" is text. A graphical rendering of a bulldog isn't. Whether now or in 2010, the image was blatantly non-free. Maybe to your eyes at the time you thought otherwise, but the mistaken attribution of license was a mistake then and is now. Lots of people make lots of mistakes in licensing; it's no crime. It's been fixed now, and that's the point; with the image now correctly tagged as non-free it can not exist in a userbox. It was properly removed as a violation of WP:NFCC #9. If you disagree with the removal, you are more than welcome to plead your case at WT:NFC. As to your ideas of my mental disposition on the subject, you are welcome to your opinions. I hope you have a nice day, --Hammersoft (talk) 15:21, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
It's clear that we disagree on your ability to use common sense when editing. Oh well. That's life. Hopefully your lack of courtesy will not impact me anymore. You have a nice day too. City boy77 (talk) 15:23, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
  • If you feel I lack common courtesy, please report me to Wikipedia:Wikiquette assistance. I fully intend to continue operating as I have been, using the same purported lack of courtesy and common sense. --Hammersoft (talk) 15:29, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
I am not going to report you to anyone for anything because what you lack is an annoyance but not something that needs to take up anyone's time. Please stop posting on my talk page now. It is clear that we have different view points and this discussion is not something that will resolve anything. City boy77 (talk) 15:33, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Butler conference player of the year articles needed[edit]

Hi City Boy77 - you may have noticed that at WikiProject College Basketball there is an effort afoot to complete all articles linked on conference POY templates. Knowing that you are a Horizon League and Butler fan, I wanted to see if you would be interested in creating articles For a few Bulldogs who don't yet have entries. Darin Archbold, Jon Neuhouser, Rylan Hainje and Brandon Polk are all in need of articles and would complete nearly half of the 9 missing Horizon League Men's Basketball Player of the Year articles. Hope you are well. Rikster2 (talk) 14:52, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

I'll be glad to get to these after I take a wikibreak. I'm in the process of writing an article for a law journal and am preparing to move into a new house so I'm taking a step back from wikipedia until at least Feb. 11, with the obvious exception of replying to you now. City boy77 (talk) 01:34, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
cool - no rush at all. Thanks and good luck with your work. Rikster2 (talk) 18:00, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
Hi City Boy77 - I just wanted to check in and see if you thought that you might have time to work on a few of these Butler articles. The offseason is sometimes a good time to knock some of these things out (depending in what is going on in "real life" of course). Take care! Rikster2 (talk) 00:29, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
I'm studying for the bar exam and am really only making minor edits or updates to articles right now. I really want to write these articles but life keeps getting in the way. I'll try to at least get the articles started over the next few weeks. City boy77 (talk) 02:19, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
Totally understand, I have had a busy patch at work too. Tell you what, if you start them, I will help flesh them out. Just message me if you get one started and I'll do what I can Rikster2 (talk) 15:32, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
I started Brandon Polk. I really don't have much there, but will continue to add more as I find it. City boy77 (talk) 05:13, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
You da man!! Rikster2 (talk) 18:32, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
Rylan Hainje is started and considerably further along than Brandon Polk. City boy77 (talk) 00:01, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
Darin Archbold and Jon Neuhouser are also started. Enjoy! City boy77 (talk) 05:09, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Re: Butler Rivalries[edit]

So that we can keep the discussion in one place, I'm copying my original message from your page:

I saw your edit summary and want to offer an explanation as to why I'm an advocate of keeping the rivalry templates. I'm a recent grad who's also not very into some of these historic rivalries. That said, although current students and recent alums may not appreciate the rivalries that appear in the templates on the page (except for Xavier), they are absolutely historical rivalries that alumni, which make up the majority of the fan-base, recognize and are fueled by. There is a reason that the ISU game was a sell-out. The fact that the series include over 100 games played for each of the rivalries suggests that the schools are historic rivals, even if they have not played recently in the case of Indiana State. It is important that the article is up-to-date, and there is a lot of current info on there, but it is also important that it recognizes the history of the program, which includes a fierce rivalry with the other in-state schools from the old ICC days, the remnants of which can be seen in the fighting spirit of countless alumni at Hinkle Fieldhouse for every home game. City boy77 (talk) 03:10, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

I 100% appreciate the historical aspect of the rivalries. I think the page though looks too cluttered and overwhelming with all the infoboxes lining the right side of the page. If they're such important rivalries, maybe they deserve their own page. I could re-configure the Butler Bulldogs men's basketball navbox to be about the basketball team in general, and then to have the seasons as a dropdown box (I.E. see the Philadelphia Phillies navbox, and you can click on "Seasons" tab at the bottom to show all the seasons pages. In the main area, I could put ncaa tournament appearances, home arenas, culture/lore, and a new "Rivalries" section. Since there is already a head coach navbox, we wouldn't need to include that, it would be redundant. But I think these rivalries should have their own page. Peetlesnumber1 (talk) 04:29, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

  • While the rivalries are important to the Butler program and warrant acknowledgment, I don't think they're notable enough to warrant their own articles. I wish they were and maybe the Butler/Xavier and/or Butler/Valparaiso rivalry will get there (although I doubt it). Simply put, there aren't enough independent sources to reference in the article so it would not meet the general requirements for notability. You might want to look at this discussion to see what WikiProject College Basketball looks for in regards to notability for rivalry articles. As for whether the templates clutter the page, I disagree. They don't impact any prose that appears in the page. The only prose on the page is impacted by the CBB Team infobox that is required for all men's basketball pages. One thing I would advocate for is for each rivalry to have it's own sub-section in a "Rivalries" section on the page. There are likely enough independent sources to warrant this. The template could then appear next to its respective sub-section, plus it would add more information to the article outside of the info that's contained in the tables throughout. City boy77 (talk) 06:04, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
Well then......I guess I have a lost cause here. go Phillies.Peetlesnumber1 (talk) 14:20, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Nice work[edit]

I just noticed the nice work you are doing on coaches of women's basketball team in the Horizon League (and many other places). I'm interested in general improvement of these types of pages, most of which are non-existent or in poor shape, so it was nice to see the work done by you. Keep it up.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 14:35, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

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Mid-Indiana Conference info[edit]

Hey, I'm sorry it took me so long to realize I should have answered your message on here, rather than on my page... unfortunately I have quite a few irons in the fire, and I didn't think to get back to you on here until now. Anyways, I've gotten a lot of info from AlmanacSports.com on the football end of things, and have done quite a bit of research on NewspaperArchive.com. I generally do searches by selecting the search Indiana options, then type in which particular conference I'm looking for (generally under the exact phrase search), then add in the years I'm searching between if need be. For example, I did find out that the MIC started out as the Howard-Miami Conference in the 1950, then morphed into the Tri-County Conference, which became what is now the MIC, though I decided to split the HMC/TCC and MIC into two pages. Unfortunately I didn't realize I should document those references until later in the process, as I'm working on the histories of multiple conferences. These links, as well as a Google search for "(conference name)" "(school name)" should turn up some leads for you, as far as where the info comes from. I also have running files of these conferences that I keep on my computer, I'll be more than happy to share these with you as well. Mtndrums (talk) 06:06, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Ways to improve Jon Neuhouser[edit]

Thanks for creating Jon Neuhouser, City boy77!

Wikipedia editor Nittmann has tagged the page as having some issues to fix. In addition, they wrote this note for you:

I'd suggest to break this up into sections, and use, e.g., Butler's Hall of Fame instead of just writing "Butler's Hall of Fame". separate the rankings so they show better, he deserves that :-)

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Proposed deletion of Butler Bulldogs women's soccer[edit]

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Atlantic 10 Conference Men's Basketball Season Champions[edit]

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MVC/Big 8[edit]

Big East - Big Eight[edit]

Hi GWFrog. In my edit, which you reverted, I thought I kept all of the information that you have in the current version, but said it in the same format that the other points in the section use. That is, the name of the conference that was formed, followed by the explanation of how the conference was formed. Now I understand why that was wrong -- the MVC and the Big Eight both used the same name (MVIAA) for a period of time. Perhaps we can find a way to keep this format while including this information. Here is what I suggest, although I do not want to make the edit until you agree so as to avoid an edit war:

What do you think? City boy77 (talk) 23:40, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

I guess it kinda works... much better than before. Thanx... (MVC still claims to be the continuation of the MVIAA.) GWFrog (talk) 00:26, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Task Force on women's basketball[edit]

I've (just barely) started Wikipedia:WikiProject_Basketball/Women's_basketball, which is a task force of WikiProject Women's sport as well as WikiProject Basketball. I hope you will sign up.

Nice work on Butler. I was discouraged to see how few teams have a year by year analysis, and happy to see Butler as an exception.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 22:12, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

  • Thanks. I'll start on some of the other Big East schools if I find the proper sources (which shouldn't be a problem). If there's anything else I can do to further this task force, let me know. City boy77 (talk) 23:28, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
If you are willing to work on some of the Big East schools, I have a spreadsheet with historical results and code to generate Wikitables. It's still a work in progress, but it will make your work a lot easier. Send me an email with an email address and I'll send you a copy.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 00:17, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

oops[edit]

Looks like we both picked the same article to start. I just created a start of DePaul in a sandbox, and tried moving it, but you beat me to it.

So I just added the year by year table.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 22:13, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

My bad, because you said you were going to work on BE schools, but I felt bad that DePaul didn't have a page, so started work on it. BTW, where did you get the colors? I converted their official Pantone and got |hex1 =0072C6 and |hex2 = D11600. Not a big deal, just curious.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 22:15, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
  • I used the colors that were DePaul's men's basketball page. I figure it's best to keep things consistent. I generally create pages alphabetically so after the DePaul page is finished, I'll start on the Marquette page (since Georgetown's is already complete). City boy77 (talk) 22:45, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
OK, I'll stay away from the BE. Nice work, BTW, I think we've made a decent start. --SPhilbrick(Talk) 01:56, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
  • No need to stay away from the Big East. If there's another team you want to do, have at it, unless it's Marquette, which I'm about to start. As a Butler fan, I'm glad Xavier is last alphabetically. Maybe someone else will do their page so I won't have to.  ;) City boy77 (talk) 03:06, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
There's plenty to do:) I just knocked off WVU, now thinking about doing FSU.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 14:12, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Another oops[edit]

I thought I'd add a roster to Marquette. Just realize the heading says "men". Will look into it.

Phew, that was easy.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 20:14, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

I added roster to Villanova Wildcats women's basketball[edit]

I hadn't noticed you adding rosters, so I was adding some to articles you started. However, I see you added a roster to Seton Hall, so wanted to let you know about Villanova, in case you were about to do it.

Nice work, the list of things to do is long, but we are chipping away at it.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 11:22, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Xavier[edit]

Thanks, I'll do the roster--SPhilbrick(Talk) 11:31, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of 2012 Butler Bulldogs women's soccer team for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article 2012 Butler Bulldogs women's soccer team is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2012 Butler Bulldogs women's soccer team until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Stuartyeates (talk) 02:54, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Women's rosters[edit]

You are one of the few who have created rosters for women's teams, so I wanted you see my plan, anounced here.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 18:55, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Please weigh in on proposal to move to Infobox:basketball biography for college players[edit]

There is an ongoing discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College Basketball#Proposal to migrate men's college basketball players and coaches to Template:Infobox basketball biography. Please weigh in and help achieve consensus on this matter. Thanks! Rikster2 (talk) 13:38, 11 September 2013 (UTC)