User talk:Guerillero/Archives/2013/August
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The Signpost: 31 July 2013
- Recent research: Napoleon, Michael Jackson and Srebrenica across cultures, 90% of Wikipedia better than Britannica, WikiSym preview
- Traffic report: Bouncing Baby Brouhaha
- WikiProject report: Babel Series: Politics on the Turkish Wikipedia
- News and notes: Gearing up for Wikimania 2013
- Arbitration report: Race and politics case closes
- Featured content: Caterpillars, warblers, and frogs—oh my!
Wikidata weekly summary #69
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- Discussions
- Request for comment on defining CheckUsers.
- Request for comment on class ⇄ instance relationship in Wikidata
- The d:Wikidata:Global Economic Map task force is starting its property list. Please go there to propose important properties about economics for countries, regions or companies.
- Events/Press
- Next office hour on August 26
- COSCUP this weekend, Taipei (August 3-4, 2013)
- Wikimania is nearly here!, Hong Kong (August 7-11, 2013)
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- The list of interwiki links has been updated with more infomation and now also includes wikivoyage!
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: removed feature, introduced feature, Parent company
- Newest task forces: Global Economic Map task force
- Development
- Custom edit-summaries added for the majority of API modules
- Started working on implementation for ordering qualifiers in the JavaScript user interface
- ChangeOps for wbsetclaimvalue, wbcreateclaim, wbremoveclaims and refactoring of wbremoveclaim
- Fix handling of '0' value in API response
- Solved bugs related to copyright notice
- Some minor UI speed improvements
- EditEntity refactored
- Test cases improved
- Further work on URLs
- Work on implementing QueryEntity
- Open Tasks for You
- Add some data about Hong Kong and related things. Denny promises nice visualizations ;-)
- Help fix formatting and value issues for a property.
- Respond to a "Request for Comment".
- Hack on one of these.
ACC
Confirmation that I am requesting ACC access --In actu (Guerillero) | My Talk 20:36, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
This Month in GLAM: July 2013
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DC meetup & dinner on Saturday, August 24!
Please join Wikimedia DC for a social meetup and dinner at Vapiano (near Farragut North/Farragut West) on Saturday, August 24 at 6:00 PM. All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!
For more information and to sign up, please see the meetup page. Hope to see you there! Kirill [talk] 03:36, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Black60dragon
I saw you warned User: Black60dragon for edit warring at Template: Green Day, and unsurprisingly he has continued including three reverts in the last 24 hours. I do not know if you just want to block him, or wait to see if he continues. I think this user has definitely got more than enough warnings and notices to stop edit warring, but does not seem to get it. STATic message me! 18:13, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
I have stopped, but I told him to start the discussion. As per policy if you are reverted then "you" should start the discussion not the person reverting. In this case it shouldnt be my responsibility. Besides he is the one that has continually reverted instead of discussing the matter on the talk page. The page stays in the original state until the discussion is final and a decision has been made. BlackDragon 18:16, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
- I blocked both parties for edit warring and locked the template for the time being. --Guerillero | My Talk 19:42, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
- Black60dragon has been blocked for edit warring 7 times now. And already one of those times was a month long block. Perhaps he is not getting the message.—Ryulong (琉竜) 20:07, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
- @Ryulong: In realty, he has 6 blocks for EW. One of my blocks was extended to a month. --Guerillero | My Talk 20:17, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
- Oh. Well the intent of my query still stands.—Ryulong (琉竜) 20:52, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
- @Ryulong: In realty, he has 6 blocks for EW. One of my blocks was extended to a month. --Guerillero | My Talk 20:17, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
- Black60dragon has been blocked for edit warring 7 times now. And already one of those times was a month long block. Perhaps he is not getting the message.—Ryulong (琉竜) 20:07, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #70
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- Discussions
- Events/Press
- Wikimania continues! If you are around make sure you come and say Hi!
- Wikidata meetup in the chapters village on Saturday at 1 PM at Wikimania.
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Following numerous discussions we are happy to present the new version of the proposal that would lead to Wikidata supporting structured data for the Wiktionaries.
- There are now only an estimated 1,000,000 articles remaining with inter language links, down from the previous 26,000,000!
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: LAU (local administrative unit), Sikart (identifier in SIKART), symptoms (the possible symptoms of a medical condition)
- Frequently used for cities and other places, P17 ("country") indicates the sovereign state an item relates to. There now at least 100 items for most present day sovereign states. Leading is China (Q148) with 607,817 items, followed by Iran (!794) with 105,875 items and the United States of America (Q30) with 99,243 items. China rose from just 5266 items a month ago.
- Development
- Changeops implemented for all Api modules
- All Api modules now have better auto comments and custom summaries
- Work on claim ordering started
- Work on refactoring Api Tests
- Bug Fixes!!
- Open Tasks for You
- Add some data about Hong Kong and related things. Denny promises nice visualizations ;-)
- Help fix formatting and value issues for a property.
- Respond to a "Request for Comment".
- Hack on one of these.
The Signpost: 07 August 2013
- Arbitration report: Fourteen editors proposed for ban in Tea Party movement case
- Traffic report: Greetings from the graveyard
- News and notes: Chapters Association self-destructs
- WikiProject report: WikiProject Freedom of Speech
- Featured content: Mysterious case of the grand duchess
- Discussion report: CheckUser and Oversighter candidates, and more
The Center Line: Summer 2013
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Vacation
I am going to be on vacation from Tuesday, 13 August until Tuesday, 19 August. Questions, comments, and concerns may not be seen until after this time period. Queries pertaining to the AUSC should be sent to the list as a whole and another auditor should take care of your question. I will try to pay attention to my OS application as much as I can with the little internet access I am going to get. --Guerillero | My Talk 05:42, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
The Signpost: 14 August 2013
- News and notes: "Beautifully smooth" Wikimania with few hitches
- In the media: Chinese censorship
- Featured content: Wikipedia takes the cities
- Discussion report: Wikivoyage, reliable sources, music bands, account creators, and OTRS
- WikiProject report: For the love of stamps
- Arbitration report: Kiefer.Wolfowitz and Ironholds case closes
Wikidata weekly summary #71
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- Events/Press/Blogs
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Wikivoyage is scheduled to get access to Wikidata data (aka phase 2) on August 26th.
- Listen to and watch beautiful Wikidata edits
- To support the inclusion of geographical coordinates in Wikidata, just about two months a new data type came available and d:Property:P625 "coordinate location" was created. Already 565,000 pairs of coordinates are now available on WikiData. Compare this to 870,000 coordinates on English Wikipedia or 1,500,000 items with d:Property:P17 "country", likely to have coordinates. Have a look at them on a map.
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: approved by (P790), ISIL ID (P791), chapter (P792), Key event (P793), as (P794), distance along (P795), geo datum (P796), executing authority (P797), mission design series designation (P798), air ministry specification (P799), work (P800), notable work (P801), student (P802), professorship (P803), GNIS Antarctica ID (P804), subject of (P805). Italian cadastre code (P806) In Addition new properties to describe mushrooms were created: hymenium type (P783), mushroom cap shape (P784), hymenium attachment (P785), stipe character (P786), spore print color (P787), mushroom ecological type (P789), edibility (P789). These will allow to build the data for a mushroom infobox (as w:Template:Mycomorphbox).
- Newest task forces: Physics task force
- Wikidata helped remove 240,000,000 language links from Wikipedia's wiki text.
- Development
- Want to get an overview of what Pragun, our Google Summer of Code student working on Wikidata for mobile, is doing? Check here
- Worked on simple special page to make a query (bugzilla:52385)
- Worked on ability to move qualifiers
- Started improving API and Special Page tests
- Fixed links to Special:SetSiteLink in non-JavaScript interface (bugzilla:51914)
- ChangeOps, custom summaries and autocomments for SetStatementRank API module
- Fixed displaying “0” as label/description in autocomments
- Some minor fixes for rare crashes of editing UI
- Worked on moving Selenium tests to Cucumber
- Open Tasks for You
- See if you can connect some of these Wikivoyage pages to their item on Wikidata.
- Check if some of the items on this and this list can be merged. But be careful to only merge if they are really about the same topic! Help about merging is at d:Help:Merge.
- Update, expand and translate d:Wikidata:Introduction to make it easier for newcomers to understand what Wikidata is all about.
- Hack on one of these.
Talkback
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Message added 07:51, 19 August 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
I finished my reply to your query on my talk page. I hope it serves your stated objective; further hoping it does not sever our collegial bonds. I would hope to believe it could not. Cheers. :) John Cline (talk) 07:51, 19 August 2013 (UTC) :) John Cline (talk) 07:51, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Are you free on Wednesday? Join us at the Wikimedia DC WikiSalon!
Wikimedia DC invites you to join us for our next DC WikiSalon, which will be held on the evening of Wednesday, August 24 at our K Street office.
The WikiSalon an informal gathering of Wikimedia enthusiasts, who come together to discuss the Wikimedia projects and collaboratively edit. There's no set agenda, and guests are welcome to recommend articles for the group to edit or edit on their own. Light refreshments will be provided.
We look forward to seeing you there! Kirill [talk] 11:12, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
This Month in Education: August 2013
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Move Protect at Manning Talk page
I changed the move-protection to indefinite to match the article move-prot (currently indef move-prot). Please feel free to remove should you disagree with it and/or when/if the article is decided to be moved. - Penwhale | dance in the air and follow his steps 09:37, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
- I have no issues with this --Guerillero | My Talk 17:32, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #72
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- Discussions
- Events/Press/Blogs
- Report from Wikimania
- Wikidata meets Incubator
- Office hour on 26th
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Average edits per page is nearly 5 now.
- Wikivoyage is still scheduled to get access to data on Wikidata (aka phase 2) on August 26.
- Developers are working hard to also make the URL datatype available by August 26 but there are factors that are not in their hands so it might have to be delayed until the next deployment in 2 weeks. URL as a datatype will soon be available on test.wikidata.org. Please give it some thorough testing and report bugs.
- Outsch! (Help collect and fix paper cuts.)
- Did you know?
- 20 undescribed monsters
- Newest properties: separated from (P807), code Bien de Interés Cultural (P808), WPDA id (P809), academic minor (P811), academic major (P812), date retrieved (P813), IUCN protected areas category (P814), ITIS TSN (P815), decays to (P816), decay mode (P817)
- Development
- Prepared deployment of phase 2 on Wikivoyage
- Worked on ability to sort qualifiers and references inside a statement
- Started work on an api module to merge items
- Worked on special page to query for items with one specific property and value
- Cleaned up code for handling recent change entries from Wikidata in the clients (Wikipedia/Wikivoyage)
- Worked on generic script for populating sites table and better integration with WMF process for creating new wikis
- Setup new git repo for WikibaseMobile skin and extension
- Fixed SetClaim api module to properly mark bot edits in recent changes and advised pywikipedia maintainers about adding support for the module. SetClaim can be used to create claims with references in a single edit.
- Reviewed code for Google Summer of Code students
- Updated doxygen documentation
- Open Tasks for You
- Report a paper cut (see above).
- Help fix formatting and value issues for a property.
- Hack on one of these.
Discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/RfC Reviewer permission
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/RfC Reviewer permission. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 08:32, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
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Chelsea Manning
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Add to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Chelsea_Manning#Edit_request_on_22_August_2013:_Change_Gender_Identity_Disorder_to_Gender_dysphoria (an article talk page... so no idea why this was protected)
The term "gender identity disorder" is no longer used by medical groups including the American Psychiatric Association (APA), the largest psychiatric organization in the world. In May 2013, the APA officially started using "gender dysphoria" instead.
— Chelsea Manning's case puts focus on transgender rights in prisons, Amanda Holpuch, theguardian.com, 22 August 2013
2001:5C0:1000:A:0:0:0:49D (talk) 01:32, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
- Will do. The talk page has been a magnet for trolling and general nastiness in the direction of the subject. --Guerillero | My Talk 01:34, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
- Done --Guerillero | My Talk 01:38, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Next request
Given the current chaos and the major recent developments for the subject of the article, someone requested that this tag be placed: {{subst:GAR}} Per the directions, it is placed at the top of the page. 71.231.186.92 (talk) 02:07, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Done the directions for starting the GAR are found in the banner at the top of the page. --Guerillero | My Talk 02:10, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
- Bwahahaha, I forgot that I can't create pages as an IP. Oh well, it's not a big deal, though an assessment is probably a good idea. 71.231.186.92 (talk) 02:25, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
- If you have a statement that you want to be the stating statement to the GAR, please let me know --Guerillero | My Talk 02:29, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
- Bwahahaha, I forgot that I can't create pages as an IP. Oh well, it's not a big deal, though an assessment is probably a good idea. 71.231.186.92 (talk) 02:25, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Request #3
Hi, I noticed you have protected Talk:Chelsea_Manning.
Could you please add the following in support of the requested move to Talk:Chelsea_Manning#23_August_2013:
- Support The move to Chelsea is premature, he/she is best known as Bradley Manning and that is currently his/her official name. Space simian (talk) 02:23, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Request #4
In the section Middle_Initial which is directly above the section Semied that you added, user Phil Sandifer states that she signed her name with the middle initial and user Cerejota posts a link to a story on the Today website that says the same. However, in the image of the actual statement that someone posted a link to earlier in the Talk page, her signature lacks a middle initial. It's the printed name under her signature that has the "E". --anon. 71.183.133.71 (talk) 03:24, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Done sorry about the wait --Guerillero | My Talk 03:46, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks, and no worries. Now I would like to respond to the comment posted by Pawyilee that includes the link to an article on The Nation's website that states the "E." stands for Elizabeth. The update to the article, which is where her (alleged) middle name is mentioned, makes reference only to the statement released by Manning's lawyer on her behalf, and we know that statement makes no mention of a middle name beyond the one "E." Furthermore, in the same update, the writer of the article refers to the article as a comment. (I suppose he really means commentary.) I don't know much about Wikipedia's policies concerning sources, but an article that's referred to as a comment by its author doesn't inspire confidence in me. Finally, no one appears to have found any other sources for Elizabeth. --anon. 71.183.133.71 (talk) 16:09, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Request #5
I think it would be appropriate to add a {{Current person}} (or similar) template tag to the page, could you please suggest that for me on the talkpage, thanks. Space simian (talk) 03:52, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
- I have given your account the Confirmed flag account so you can make this request yourself since your posts have been sense-able so far.. --Guerillero | My Talk 04:24, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
- OK, thanks! Space simian (talk) 04:30, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Request #6
Hi, I'd like to request that the photo of Chelsea from the lower section be used as the main photo and the military one be moved down somewhere more appropriate. This would be in line with her gender identity. Shezthemann (talk) 07:30, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Not done --Guerillero | My Talk 07:39, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
- Can you post the request to the page when the discussion is over please? Shezthemann (talk) 08:11, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
- This issue has already been raised by others so can be left for now. Shezthemann (talk) 23:41, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
- Can you post the request to the page when the discussion is over please? Shezthemann (talk) 08:11, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Request #7
Please post my statement under the most appropriate section. I oppose reverting to the "Bradley" name Chelsea was very clear of her intentions and even stated, and was printed in leading newspapers and on national television, "I hope that you will support me in this transition. I also request that, starting today, you refer to me by my new name and use the feminine pronoun (except in official mail to the confinement facility)." As she is a living person Wikipedia must respect her wishes. Shezthemann (talk) 08:11, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
- It's been two days now, can you please post my comment or should I ask someone else? Shezthemann (talk) 23:43, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Done sorry for the wait --Guerillero | My Talk 01:21, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Request #8
Please post on my behalf the following objection to the edit request raised by SlimVirgin, in which she requests a reversion of earlier edits harmonizing the dates to the common American style:
I oppose making this edit. I agree that date style needs to be discussed, and that we should avoid making large changes when the article is protected. At minimum, however, we should prefer a single date style over a mix of date styles; and in general the original rationale for the edits is a very good one, that we should use the common American date style in an article about an American figure. In any case, this proposed edit would not be uncontroversial.
Thanks for your assistance. 168.12.253.66 (talk) 17:44, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Meet up with local Wikipedians on September 14!
Are you free on Saturday, September 14? If so, please join Wikimedia DC and local Wikipedians for a social meetup and dinner at Vapiano (near Farragut North/Farragut West) at 6:00 PM. All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages are welcome!
For more information and to sign up, please visit the meetup page. Hope to see you there! Kirill [talk] 18:27, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Away
I am currently moving, back, into college and will be detained over the next few days. --Guerillero | My Talk 20:08, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Edits posted on behalf of other editors.
Greetings. When you post edits like this, I would appreciate if you would indicate in the posting that it was posted by you, as requested by another editor on your talk page, including a diff of the other editor making the request. It took me a while to figure out where this edit had come from, since User:Shezthemann does not show up anywhere in the talk page history of the page. Cheers! bd2412 T 03:27, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
The Signpost: 21 August 2013
- Recent research: WikiSym 2013 retrospective
- WikiProject report: Loop-the-loop: Amusement Parks
- Traffic report: Reddit creep
- Featured content: WikiCup update, and the gardens of Finland
- News and notes: Looking ahead to Wiki Loves Monuments
- Technology report: Gallery improvements launch on Wikipedia
Are you free next Thursday? Join us at the Wikimedia DC WikiSalon!
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We look forward to seeing you there! Kirill [talk] 14:27, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #73
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- Discussions
- Events/Press/Blogs
- State of the Map (September 6-8, 2013)
- Recent office hour logs now availible.
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Abraham, Denny and Lydia sat down for an evening trying to capture what Wikidata is about in a video.
- Deployment! Wikivoyage now has access to the wikidata dataset and various other bugs have also been fixed (including the copyright warning)!
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: interchange station (P833), public holiday (P832), parent club (P831), Encyclopedia of Life (P830), OEIS ID (P829), possible causes (P828), BBC programme identifier (P827), tonality (P826), dedicated to (P825), Meteoritical Bulletin Database ID (P824)
- Newest task forces: Wikidata:País Valencià task force
- Development
- Work on allowing API module editentities to edit claims
- Work on entity / item redirects
- Work on support for moving qualifiers in API and Frontend
- Adding coordinates to diff display and improving diff display code
- Allowing site groups for language links on clients to be configurable (needed for commons)
- EntityId changes, we are now working on 0.5!
- Show snaktype in summary for novalue and somevalue snaks
- Further work on merge module for the API
- Wrote missing tests for various jQuery widgets
- Work on value formatters
- Continue on moving tests to cucumber
- Bug fixes for coordinates following the latest deployment
- Open Tasks for You
- Report a paper cut (see above).
- Help fix formatting and value issues for a property.
- Hack on one of these.
The Signpost: 28 August 2013
- Recent research: WikiSym 2013 retrospective
- WikiProject report: Loop-the-loop: Amusement Parks
- Traffic report: Reddit creep
- Featured content: WikiCup update, and the gardens of Finland
- News and notes: Looking ahead to Wiki Loves Monuments
- Technology report: Gallery improvements launch on Wikipedia