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Talk:UST Growling Tigers
Hello.
I would like to invite you to join the discussion at Talk:UST Growling Tigers regarding the removal of roster tables of the varsity teams of the UST Growling Tigers.
Your input will be of great help.
Thanks.
NRT^530 (talk) 13:09, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
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"DLS-CSB"
Seriously, who says that? Howard the Duck (talk) 02:27, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
- Hi. It is currently being used by their official student publication, The Benildean[1] and perhaps, the school's official name is De La Salle–College of Saint Benilde. Also, to help further determine the chronology of the NCAA teams, since CSJL precedes CSB. I noticed this was the case since the NCAA Season 84, but I haven't given it much thought. Is it because Colegio comes before College? Same goes with LSGH, as there are NCAA basketball seasons that it comes before, such as Season 86 and Season 87, and it comes after, like in the case of Season 91 and Season 92, JRU and EAC-ICA.
- Linsanity 03:42, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
- WP:NC is our standard. Benildeans refer to their school as "CSB" or "Benilde" in that preference in everybody speech. Varsity teams use one among "CSB", "Benilde", "Saint/St. Benilde" or "Blazers". "DLS-CSB" is never used in actual language. Sure, CSB itself may call it that way, or may even prefer for everybody else to call them that way, but if the rest of the world don't, we follow the rest of the world.
- FWIW, the official name is "De La Salle-College of Saint Benilde", that's why it is after Colegio de San Juan de Letran. Howard the Duck (talk) 03:49, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
- Noted. But for LSGH, should it come before or after JRU and EAC-ICA? There are inconsistencies in different basketball seasons. Also, shouldn't University of Santo Tomas precede University of the East and University of the Philippines? Or are articles not considered in the school's official name?
- Linsanity 03:52, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
- The monstrosity that's EAC-ICA should just have been ICA or EAC (unless proven otherwise). The order in NCAA Season 95 basketball tournaments#Schedule 2 should be the correct order... gah I noticed you also used changed these into acronyms on this one. How horrible! I don't remember someone from Letran actually blurting out "he's from C-S-J-L". This should have corresponded on how the varsity article names are called. Howard the Duck (talk) 04:00, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
- But Letranites use it in their school cheers anyway. Apologies. I am just a creature of habit. EAC-ICA has been used since NCAA Season 85, so I kept it that way. I noticed EAC-ICA is printed in the Brigadiers' jerseys, pretty much like CSB-LSGH. If that is the case, are we gonna use prevalent terms instead of the official school names? How about for UPHSD/Perpetual? Linsanity 04:09, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
- Their most popular cheer that spells out something is L-E-T-R-A-N. My position is this is to use whatever the name of the article is as per WP:NC. For example, for "Adamson Falcons" use "Adamson" exclusively, not "AdU Falcons" or "AdU" (this looks terrible in prose). This means we'd be using "Letran," "Benilde," and "Perpetual". EAC-IAC and CSB-LSGH are different; from what I know in LSGH's case, they are mandated to carry the name of "CSB" when playing in the NCAA. Elsewhere they go by "LSGH" or "La Salle". I dunno with EAC-IAC. In these cases I'd go with the most popular short name of the school, for EAC-IAC I don't know the answer to this, but for the Malayan High School of Science it's either "Malayan" or "Mapua", with the Malayan name used in more WP:RS. Howard the Duck (talk) 04:18, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
- But Letranites use it in their school cheers anyway. Apologies. I am just a creature of habit. EAC-ICA has been used since NCAA Season 85, so I kept it that way. I noticed EAC-ICA is printed in the Brigadiers' jerseys, pretty much like CSB-LSGH. If that is the case, are we gonna use prevalent terms instead of the official school names? How about for UPHSD/Perpetual? Linsanity 04:09, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
- The monstrosity that's EAC-ICA should just have been ICA or EAC (unless proven otherwise). The order in NCAA Season 95 basketball tournaments#Schedule 2 should be the correct order... gah I noticed you also used changed these into acronyms on this one. How horrible! I don't remember someone from Letran actually blurting out "he's from C-S-J-L". This should have corresponded on how the varsity article names are called. Howard the Duck (talk) 04:00, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
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Re: Congressional districts template per region
Hi @Howard the Duck:! I'd like to help out it in making the rest of the templates for the congressional districts per region. I see that you have created one already for NCR. I'm working now on the Region VII and Region VIII templates. — Emperork (talk) 03:19, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks! Howard the Duck (talk) 03:37, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
- All done. Feel free to review the rest of the templates. — Emperork (talk) 06:30, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- Again, thanks. This is what they should look like. Howard the Duck (talk) 06:42, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- All done. Feel free to review the rest of the templates. — Emperork (talk) 06:30, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Senior Citizens party-list
Hello! Your submission of Senior Citizens party-list at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 00:32, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
'Prime Ministers' map
Hello, your map showing which countries in the world have used the office of Prime Minister (or equivalent) shows Oman as blank, ie as not having a PM or ever using such an office.
However, this is incorrect: Tariq bin Taimur, uncle to Sultan Qaboos and father of the present Sultan Haitham bin Tariq, held the position of Prime Minister from 1970 to 1972. Also Sultan Haitham's brother Asa'ad bin Tariq bin Taimur al Said currently holds the position of Deputy Prime Minister.JWULTRABLIZZARD (talk) 00:44, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
- This is a Wiki. You can edit that. Howard the Duck (talk) 02:48, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Okay I... don't know how. :-SJWULTRABLIZZARD (talk) 09:35, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
You can download the file, edit the file, then upload your new version. Howard the Duck (talk) 10:54, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
@Howard the Duck: Hi! I'm trying to complete the list of House Committees and got a speedy deletion notice for Philippine House Committee on Labor and Employment. I can only trace more info about content on government websites thru this 2006 WP:Tambayan Philippines thread. I did put a PD-notice on the reference link of the article's lead to heads-up that it's a public domain content. Hope you can help. Thanks! — Emperork (talk) 13:19, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
What kind of help is needed here. Howard the Duck (talk) 15:32, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
- I actually copied the committee description coming from the House Rules on to the page’s lead. I would assume that the rules coming from the HOR is a public domain so I did it and included a reference note that it was lifted from a public domain document. Just today, I checked that the speedy deletion tag was already removed and the committee description based from the House Rules was also removed as well. Any idea if such content from HOR would be under public domain? If not, then I’ll just have to revise the other House committees’ lead as well. Thanks! — Emperork (talk) 06:21, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
- Whether or not it is or isn't copyrighted you'd have to make an effort to reword it. AFAIK, only words from actual laws can be copied verbatim. Howard the Duck (talk) 06:32, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
- Ok got it. Thanks for your insight on this! — Emperork (talk) 09:41, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
- Whether or not it is or isn't copyrighted you'd have to make an effort to reword it. AFAIK, only words from actual laws can be copied verbatim. Howard the Duck (talk) 06:32, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
Duterte Youth seat?
Hi, regarding the seats for Duterte Youth in the House of the Representatives, as per my understanding the party-list already has a seat, albeit unoccupied by an individual representative, hence I set the "number of seats" of the partylist as 1. Are there any precedent that I am not aware of, of not counting vacant seats?Hariboneagle927 (talk) 04:20, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
Precedent: When a congressman vacates the seat you deduct that seat from the party totals. Also, Senior Citizens were "reserved" two seats in the 16th Congress but none of them were sworn in until that adjourned sine die so they got a big fat egg in our tallies. It's improper to say Duterte Youth has 1 seat because no one is representing them right now. Howard the Duck (talk) 05:32, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
Another example was whem a Senior Citizens congressman resigned in the 15th Congress, and his seat wasn't filled up, they were denoted to have 1 seat instead of 2 when it ended. Howard the Duck (talk) 05:40, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
ITN recognition for Perfecto Yasay Jr.
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I just want to ask why the seals of offices and congress chambers were removed by you previously, since Template:Politics of the United States has their respective seals. Also, I also do not understand why you removed floor leaders in Template:Politics of the Philippines, when Template:Politics of the United States has these. Jeremy (Message) 14:11, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
- I believe you're doing a classic example of WP:OSE. The U.S. is a two-party system. Most Americans know what those blue and red colors stand for, and by extension the respective floor leaders of each house of the U.S. Congress. If they're brilliant they'd even know who the party whips, even down to the state level are.
- In the Philippines, Congress is structured as if there are 2 competing political forces when it isn't. I suppose the more analogous comparison is Template:Politics of Indonesia. Both large Southeast Asian countries, unitary presidential republics with bicameral legislatures in a multi-party system. Guess how that looks like. Howard the Duck (talk) 14:20, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
- As for the seals those are horribly indistinguishable at that size. I suppose WP:ICONDECORATION is a valid reason for removal (Therefore, it should also be removed in the US politicsbox.) Howard the Duck (talk) 14:24, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
- I also noticed you removed the link for Party-list representation in the House of Representatives of the Philippines, which was pretty much bad idea to do. And if you're adding floor leaders, you should add in the deputy speakers, all 20(?) of them right? These deputy speakers preside more often than the actual speaker, FYI. Howard the Duck (talk) 14:31, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
- I see. As for the seals, I understand what you mean now, and I have brought up the matter in the US politicsbox talk page. And for the US politicsbox comparison, this is actually the first time I've heard of WP:OSE, and I will take that into account in the future. Cheers! Jeremy (Message) 14:36, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
- The seals are terrible, and should be removed on sight when they serve as decorations. If you do see one on infoboxes please do remove whenever you can. Howard the Duck (talk) 14:37, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
- I see. As for the seals, I understand what you mean now, and I have brought up the matter in the US politicsbox talk page. And for the US politicsbox comparison, this is actually the first time I've heard of WP:OSE, and I will take that into account in the future. Cheers! Jeremy (Message) 14:36, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
One last thing, may I reformat (adding line breaks, bold text) the text atleast, without adding icons and making changes to its content? Jeremy (Message) 11:03, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
- Check out WP:MOSBOLD and WP:MOS in general for things such as this. Howard the Duck (talk) 12:53, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Senior Citizens party-list
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Nomination for merging of Template:PHL sports results header
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Nomination for merging of Template:PHL sports results row
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DYK for Senior Citizens Partylist
On 5 July 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Senior Citizens Partylist, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Senior Citizens Partylist was sworn in five months after the 18th Congress of the Philippines convened, since its factions could not agree on a nominee? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Senior Citizens Partylist), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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DYK nomination of 1990 Cordillera Autonomous Region creation plebiscite
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1990 Cordillera Autonomous Region creation plebiscite
I have just moved the 1990 Cordillera Autonomous Region creation plebiscite DYK hook into the queue, but I am concerned about the results table diagram in top right of the page, which I think is very confusing. The percentage figures on the left seem to represent percentages of different things, the red and green boxes at the foot don't help much, and there is no caption to clarify what's what. This is due to appear on the main page on 23rd July. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:26, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
Can you specify what are you asking for? I checked and the map and the results table correspond to each other. The three places where the "no" vote got 70% or more has the darkest red shade, while the only place where the "yes" vote was shaded green.
I checked the Brexit referendum article and it's mostly the same, only that greens and reds were replaced with yellows and blues. Howard the Duck (talk) 09:56, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
I also audited the table per se and Abra's percentage totals added 7p to 100%. I'm on mobile so I can't check all that easily. Howard the Duck (talk) 09:59, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- I'm talking about
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7e/1990_CAR_plebiscite_result.png/220px-1990_CAR_plebiscite_result.png)
- On the left is listed 70%, 60%, 50%, 60%, 70%. So, what do these percentages refer to? Why don't they read 70%, 60%, 50%, 40%, 30%, that would be comprehensible? No time to explain more as real life is getting in the way! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:32, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- There are only two choices (yes, or for autonomy, and red, against autonomy), so you can stack yes/no results into a bar graph of two colors. A result of 51% yes means 49% no, so it'll be light green. See for example this for an example with more gradients. Howard the Duck (talk) 12:37, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- The difference between your diagram and the BREXIT one is that it has a helpful legend which makes it clear that certain colours indicate percentages in favour of remaining while others indicate percentages in favour of leaving, and also it has an explanatory caption at the bottom. You could at the very least add an explanatory caption. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:40, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
Done I've added a note on the infobox explaining this further. Howard the Duck (talk) 18:08, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- The difference between your diagram and the BREXIT one is that it has a helpful legend which makes it clear that certain colours indicate percentages in favour of remaining while others indicate percentages in favour of leaving, and also it has an explanatory caption at the bottom. You could at the very least add an explanatory caption. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:40, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- There are only two choices (yes, or for autonomy, and red, against autonomy), so you can stack yes/no results into a bar graph of two colors. A result of 51% yes means 49% no, so it'll be light green. See for example this for an example with more gradients. Howard the Duck (talk) 12:37, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
DYK for 1990 Cordillera Autonomous Region creation plebiscite
On 23 July 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article 1990 Cordillera Autonomous Region creation plebiscite, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that only Ifugao consented to be part of an autonomous region in the Philippine Cordillera in a 1990 plebiscite? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/1990 Cordillera Autonomous Region creation plebiscite. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, 1990 Cordillera Autonomous Region creation plebiscite), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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A (Philippine) barnstar for you!
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Footnotes
Hello. I saw that you remodeled List of presidents of the Philippines to a new, simpler version. I can agree with you that your version of the list is better, and I myself added certain changes to it. But, when you remodeled the list and removed the previous version, you also created quite a mess with footnotes in the list, with a lot of red lines of non-existing but invoked footnotes. Please, fix that problem when you can. — Sundostund (talk) 21:12, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
- I'll get to it whenever I can. Howard the Duck (talk) 21:13, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
- Since I had enough time, I did it. With some imperfections, I'm sure. Fell free to correct what you see as necessary. — Sundostund (talk) 06:14, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
I suggest nuking everything and start over. Howard the Duck (talk) 11:50, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- I understand your suggestion, and I may even agree with it (to some extent), but I certainly don't intend to do it by myself. That list has quite a few footnotes, and it would be a nightmare to nuke them all and create new footnotes from zero (if that is your intention). It was quite a task to "catch" all the footnotes that existed prior to your remodeling of the list, and eliminate all those red lines of non-existing but invoked footnotes. I really have no desire to spend even more time working on that list, except for some minor changes. But, since you remodeled the list (and I'm certainly not opposed to your version), I would be interested to see your idea for the footnotes, so feel free to implement it if you want. — Sundostund (talk) 16:54, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- I've been thinking this over and I do suggest nuking it; some footnotes are old are dead links. Some no longer note something because it was remodeled. The article has too many explanations when it has to be a list and should have little of that, at least on the actual list. Most footnotes are in the prose and should probably be moved to the main presidents article (if it isn't there). Howard the Duck (talk) 16:59, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- As I said, I would be interested to see your idea on it. I am satisfied with the look of your version of the list, so regarding the footnotes, I think you should go ahead and change what you want, nuke what you see as unnecessary, and place a new set of footnotes. — Sundostund (talk) 17:09, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- I've been thinking this over and I do suggest nuking it; some footnotes are old are dead links. Some no longer note something because it was remodeled. The article has too many explanations when it has to be a list and should have little of that, at least on the actual list. Most footnotes are in the prose and should probably be moved to the main presidents article (if it isn't there). Howard the Duck (talk) 16:59, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
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"Altas" listed at Redirects for discussion
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September 2020
Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, discussion pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments, as you did at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Basketball, is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Even making spelling and grammatical corrections in others' comments is generally frowned upon, as it tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. User:Namiba 15:42, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
- WP:EC. This seems to be an issue with the editor I'm using. Howard the Duck (talk) 15:44, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Namiba: "Welcome to Wikipedia"? Seriously? HTD has been here since 2006. Please read the templates before thoughtlessly dropping one on another user's page.--WaltCip-(talk) 17:34, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
- It's all good I screwed up on an edit conflict. The new Wiki editor is wonky. Howard the Duck (talk) 17:42, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
- Nonetheless, you're a long-time editor of Wikipedia and I'd like for you to be recognized as such. Still, if you can look past it, so should I.--WaltCip-(talk) 12:15, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
- I work at customer service. My philosophy is that I'd use whatever I'm saying to a new one to an already frequent one. That's justice lol. I appreciate you looking out for this though. Howard the Duck (talk) 13:06, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
- Nonetheless, you're a long-time editor of Wikipedia and I'd like for you to be recognized as such. Still, if you can look past it, so should I.--WaltCip-(talk) 12:15, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
- It's all good I screwed up on an edit conflict. The new Wiki editor is wonky. Howard the Duck (talk) 17:42, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
"Line X" on our country's article
Just stumbled upon the "Infrastructure" section of our country's article while finding info to add to WV, when I've again seen references to "Line X" since the rapid transit naming debacle. Can you please clean those up?! Sorry, I'm mostly active in Wikivoyage and Wiktionary these days.--TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 06:05, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- What do I have to replace it with? L/MRT-#? Sometimes it depends on context, something the "Line #" proponents consider. Howard the Duck (talk) 14:10, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
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Judiciary of the Philippines references
Hi Howard, was the text you created in Judiciary of the Philippines all from the one Asian Law series paper? Do you know of any other good sources on the topic? Best, CMD (talk) 13:45, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- There are so many sources such as the constitution and laws creating those courts. Howard the Duck (talk) 14:04, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- I'm looking more for secondary sources than primary ones, although the Law series paper does claim to be unprecedented so perhaps there are not that many. CMD (talk) 14:42, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- I suppose law textbooks have these. That source is 20 years old (date 2001) so it's quite outdated on some information. Howard the Duck (talk) 14:52, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, that's why I was wondering if you knew of similar sources, and was wondering where you built the Judiciary page from. I've been working on similar content for a past couple of months, and think it'd be worthwhile putting inline citations and nominating for DYK. CMD (talk) 16:33, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- I ripped off the structure from Judiciary of Indonesia. Individual articles on specific courts have basic information on who leads them, how many members are there, and who appointed them. Howard the Duck (talk) 16:46, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- I suppose law textbooks have these. That source is 20 years old (date 2001) so it's quite outdated on some information. Howard the Duck (talk) 14:52, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- I'm looking more for secondary sources than primary ones, although the Law series paper does claim to be unprecedented so perhaps there are not that many. CMD (talk) 14:42, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
ITN recognition for K. C. Jones
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