User talk:JJBers/Archive 2
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Two things
Hi JJBers. I deleted User:Bdhsj000, which you created with what appeared to be mocking text, and reverted your edits at User:SwisterTwister. It's generally considered impolite to substantially edit other users' user pages, especially if you're only mocking them (in the first case), or they have blanked their entire page due to frustration (the second case). Thanks, Sam Walton (talk) 10:53, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject United States/The 50,000 Challenge
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- Not to be a wise guy, but I think you sent to the wrong person, I'm already part of the project.— JJBers|talk 02:43, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Corinth, New York
Hello! Your submission of Corinth, New York at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 03:58, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
- JJBers, I'm a bit puzzled as to why you nominated this article: it is not new, certainly doesn't qualify as a recent 5x expansion, and isn't a newly promoted Good Article—the only three ways an article can qualify for DYK. I'm posting this as a courtesy, to remind you of the newness/recentness requirement, because the creation/expansion/promotion needs to have occurred within the past seven days, and also to let you know that the nomination has been closed as unsuccessful because it is not a recent 5x expansion. Best of luck with your next DYK nomination. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:58, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
AfC
Hi. I'm just letting you know that I have temporarily removed your names from the AfC helper script access list. A quick glance at your talk page reveals that you are still not ready for this complex task yet and you are not familiar with the content of WP:NPP which details everything you should really know for reviewing article drafts. Please spend a couple more months doing general editing and then come back to AfC when you have more confidence. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask me on my talk page. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 15:51, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
New Page Review needs your help
Hi JJBers,
As an AfC reviewer you're probably aware that a new user right has been created for patrolling new pages (you might even have been granted the right already, and admins have it automatically).
Since July there has been a very serious backlog at Special:NewPagesFeed of over 14,000 pages, by far the worst since 2011, and we need an all out drive to get this back down to just a few hundred that can be easily maintained in the future. Unlike AfC, these pages are already in mainspace, and the thought of what might be there is quite scary. There are also many good faith article creators who need a simple, gentle push to the Tea House or their pages converted to Draft rather than being deleted.
Although New Page Reviewing can occasionally be somewhat more challenging than AfC, the criteria for obtaining the right are roughly the same. The Page Curation tool is even easier to use than the Helper Script, so it's likely that most AfC reviewers already have more than enough knowledge for the task of New Page Review.
It is hoped that AfC reviewers will apply for this right at WP:PERM and lend a hand. You'll need to have read the page at WP:NPR and the new tutorial.
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Former Interstate 84 (Connecticut—Rhode Island) listed at Redirects for discussion
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An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Former Interstate 84 (Connecticut—Rhode Island). Since you had some involvement with the Former Interstate 84 (Connecticut—Rhode Island) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. GeoffreyT2000 (talk, contribs) 14:34, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
I-84 (Connecticut–Rhode Island)
Re: WPUS50k: Does this article lean towards one state over the other? For reconciliation purposes, it'd probably be best not to count this towards both states when only one template is added to the talk page. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:04, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
- I guess it leans toward Connecticut.—JJBers|talk 22:15, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
WPUS template
Woah, why did you move the WPUS50k template? Now the category has reset to 11, unless a bot will go through and repopulate based on the redirected template? ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:06, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
- Again, like said in the move it's self, the "k" is really un-needed, and I checked the pages that were affected, and they looked fine. Including the category, the total is at 577, the same as the page.—JJBers|talk 22:14, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
- Ah, ok, I guess the system just had to catch up. Thanks for checking. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:51, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
OrphanReferenceFixer: Help on reversion
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Nomination of Interstate 84 (Connecticut–Rhode Island) for deletion
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The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Interstate 84 (Connecticut–Rhode Island) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
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Challenges
Hi, I don't mean to be a control freak, but can you please not create challenge pages unless there is the support there to join them? Mexico is never going to get 10,000 articles on here, and that would be part of the Latin America one anyway.♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:41, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
- Alright, but at-least keep the Mexican one, because it will most likely get the support some time later. Also this happened with Canada.—JJBers|talk 22:44, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
- You're way too bold with the challenge series, which coming from somebody who is used to doing everything himself on contests and challenges it's a bit disturbing to keep seeing challenges and contests created with little thought behind them. Some of the things you've removed or altered too is putting me offguard, such as removing all of the details from the Destubathon page, so it's increaisngly difficult for me to monitor things. The CA/Nevada one doesn't look to me like it has the support to sustain a sub challenge. This sort of thing really needs at least a dozen active editors working on states. It's much easier long term I think now to just focus on the main 50,000 Challenge. I appreciate your support and enthusiasm, but you're making it increasingly difficult for me to keep track of things with this.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:38, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
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User:VarunFEB2003
Hi, why did you move those subpages to subpages of User:Example? Was the user renamed? I can't find any discussion about this. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:16, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
- This is because the user was indef banned, so I moved it to a non-controversial page.—JJBers|talk 20:21, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
- But why? Yes, VarunFEB2003 is under an indefinite block (n.b. not a ban), but those pages that you moved were not good examples of how to behave, so should not be passed of as example user subpages. In fact, they are incredibly bad examples, and are part of the reason for their block. Please move them back where they came from, and delete the resultant redirects. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:01, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
- Redrose64, just as an update I've moved the pages back to their original locations. Primefac (talk) 14:45, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
Thank you --Redrose64 (talk) 23:29, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- Redrose64, just as an update I've moved the pages back to their original locations. Primefac (talk) 14:45, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- But why? Yes, VarunFEB2003 is under an indefinite block (n.b. not a ban), but those pages that you moved were not good examples of how to behave, so should not be passed of as example user subpages. In fact, they are incredibly bad examples, and are part of the reason for their block. Please move them back where they came from, and delete the resultant redirects. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:01, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
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JJBers,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. MB298 (talk) 05:33, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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Regarding your edit of Norwalk, Connecticut
There is no such reference within MOS referring to any of the context claims regarding your edit of Norwalk, Connecticut. Please research the attached shortcuts and if you believe there is any support for your claims please show me and I will concede and step aside. Until then, your edit to the page Norwalk, Connecticut is unacceptable and has been corrected. WP:MOS→→→WP:STYLEVAR, MOS:STYLEVAR, MOS:VAR, WP:WHITE, WP:TOC Thank you and have a nice day!——→StephenTS42 19:24, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
- Please don't send the same message twice, either use the talk back feature, or just ping me in your talk-page. —JJBers 00:54, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
- As you closed the ANI discussion, I thought I'd mention it here. StephenTS42 has "left" before, also over the Norwalk article. See here. It took him all of three and a half hours to return on that occasion. BlackcurrantTea (talk) 00:39, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
ANI
I finished my ANI request, please add supporting evidence there. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 02:26, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
WP:IG
Hey, would you mind self-reverting the galleries at Hudson Valley? The policy WP:IG discourages them unless really purposeful, with a central theme and motive. Otherwise images work better on the sides of articles, and take up less room. I'd recommend reading all of WP:IG, it explains it better than I can. Thanks. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 02:38, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
- I removed one of the galleries, but one of them was created due to it taking up more room than needed and heavily compressed text. I also changed the gallery type and size for the other, pre-existing gallery. —JJBers 02:49, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks! ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 05:59, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
Honestly
This is not necessary. Taunting is not appropriate, and if your emotions are that tied up in this, then you need to fix yourself. I suggest that you self revert out of humble self reflection. TimothyJosephWood 22:11, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
Stop
This is not appreciated and has been removed. Now stay away from my talk page. - Sitush (talk) 10:48, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
- It's fine that reverted it, but you were clearly taunting the user in the AFD. —JJBers 19:56, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
- I told you to fuck off from my talk page, then you returned to template me again. Are you more stupid than I already thought? - Sitush (talk) 19:09, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
- Ah, I see you are at school I will assume that "school" is not meant in the US sense, which includes university/college. It doesn't really excuse you returning to my page but it does perhaps explain the naivety in inserting yourself unhelpfully and unnecessarily into a dispute. You've completely misread the situation, perhaps also not helped by a lack of familiarity with issues relating to India-based articles (which are subject to a special sanctions regime) and the fact that Inlinetext (who was also not appreciative of your warning) is someone who has previously contributed under another, seemingly undisclosed username. My suggestion to you is to drop this: I can't comment about Inlinetext's actual experience, nor whether theirs is a clean start, but templating someone like me who has a mass of experience in the topic area and was posting numerous potentially helpful notes for those who might not, is rarely A Good Thing. You've misjudged this situation big time. - Sitush (talk) 19:31, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
- I don't see how a basic Wikipedia problem can't be dealt with because it has India to do with...—JJBers 21:31, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
- While issuing threats bandying NPA, it is expected that you shall provide a specific diff and discuss since the lead in these policies do not convey the full effect of the text. (a) Did I use an "epithet" ? (b) Was I not discussing content in the context of those remarks ? (c) Did I threaten you in any way ? (d) Did I ask you to fuck off as some other editors do and get away with ? (e) Did I not explain to you in the format "Your statement about X is wrong because of information at Y" (mentioned as WP:AVOIDYOU) ? So then what specifically are you upset about ? Please diff it so we can communicate better. In future be WP:CIVIL and don't undo comments from joint talk pages (like article talk pages). Incidentally I am also now reversing your strikeouts for those 2 SPAs on the Delta Meghwal AfD now that the SPI/Checkuser finds them unconnected. Inlinetext (talk) 23:07, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
- I am conveying to you that your statement "Keep the reference out, all it does is mention the victims name" diff is factually incorrect and verifiably deviates (considerably) from the truth. I shall not embarass you, at this time, by setting out all those portions from the Australian University journal's research paper which contradict your statement since you can very easily read the paper yourself. Inlinetext (talk) 23:24, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Inlinetext: No, I didn't revert it because of that, I reverted it because 80% of it was just attacking me and other authors, while sometimes bringing it up. —JJBers 00:14, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- I am conveying to you that your statement "Keep the reference out, all it does is mention the victims name" diff is factually incorrect and verifiably deviates (considerably) from the truth. I shall not embarass you, at this time, by setting out all those portions from the Australian University journal's research paper which contradict your statement since you can very easily read the paper yourself. Inlinetext (talk) 23:24, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
- While issuing threats bandying NPA, it is expected that you shall provide a specific diff and discuss since the lead in these policies do not convey the full effect of the text. (a) Did I use an "epithet" ? (b) Was I not discussing content in the context of those remarks ? (c) Did I threaten you in any way ? (d) Did I ask you to fuck off as some other editors do and get away with ? (e) Did I not explain to you in the format "Your statement about X is wrong because of information at Y" (mentioned as WP:AVOIDYOU) ? So then what specifically are you upset about ? Please diff it so we can communicate better. In future be WP:CIVIL and don't undo comments from joint talk pages (like article talk pages). Incidentally I am also now reversing your strikeouts for those 2 SPAs on the Delta Meghwal AfD now that the SPI/Checkuser finds them unconnected. Inlinetext (talk) 23:07, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
- I don't see how a basic Wikipedia problem can't be dealt with because it has India to do with...—JJBers 21:31, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
- Ah, I see you are at school I will assume that "school" is not meant in the US sense, which includes university/college. It doesn't really excuse you returning to my page but it does perhaps explain the naivety in inserting yourself unhelpfully and unnecessarily into a dispute. You've completely misread the situation, perhaps also not helped by a lack of familiarity with issues relating to India-based articles (which are subject to a special sanctions regime) and the fact that Inlinetext (who was also not appreciative of your warning) is someone who has previously contributed under another, seemingly undisclosed username. My suggestion to you is to drop this: I can't comment about Inlinetext's actual experience, nor whether theirs is a clean start, but templating someone like me who has a mass of experience in the topic area and was posting numerous potentially helpful notes for those who might not, is rarely A Good Thing. You've misjudged this situation big time. - Sitush (talk) 19:31, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
Your restoration of two dead external links, and so forth
I gather from your activities two weeks ago that you are a leading authority on sock puppetry on Wikipedia. As a secret admirer of yours, I would very much like to attend your next advanced level course: «People never forget to sign in to their account, oh, no, no, no, it is always sock puppetry.»
Two week ago you also reverted my edit on an authority on stupidity, the psychoanalyst Wilfred Bion. Your revert brought two dead external links back to «life». Is this another specialty of yours? Clowns und Kinder (talk) 19:00, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
- 1. I removed the dead links, but will not be re-adding the video link.
- 2. You were using the logged out IP in a edit war that resulted in a block. —JJBers 19:55, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
War on Talk:Norwalk
Didn't see that coming; wow. Though you handled yourself very well. It takes all sorts, the important thing is not to be disillusioned or put off. I'm sure you have met idiots on the internet before. The conciliatory note is, imo, a last grasp to continue the fight. DO.NOT.FEED.THE.TROLL. Best, Ceoil (talk) 16:38, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
Note
About userpage warnings, when you post a warning on a user's Talk page, and they remove it, the community takes that as a sign that they read it. This is described in WP:OWNTALK. Re-posting a warning as you did here becomes itself harassment... there is no need, and it only looks bad on you. Jytdog (talk) 00:23, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Oh alright then, I'll self-undo it then...—JJBers 00:24, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- I guess you beat me to undo it...—JJBers 00:26, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- Yep. I don't want to beat a horse here, but when dealing with an editor who has problematic behavior, it is really, really important that your behavior remain good. The reason for that, is that if you want to ask the community to take action at ANI or some other forum where behavior is addressed, your own behavior will also be examined, and if you have acted badly two things will happen: a) the focus will turn away from the other editor, and your goal in asking for action will be thwarted; and b) you may get sanctioned or blocked. I have seen many an ANI thread derail because the original poster had dirty hands. Jytdog (talk) 00:29, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm dropping the stick from beating the horse for nearly a month (really two separate events). —JJBers 00:40, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- Yep. I don't want to beat a horse here, but when dealing with an editor who has problematic behavior, it is really, really important that your behavior remain good. The reason for that, is that if you want to ask the community to take action at ANI or some other forum where behavior is addressed, your own behavior will also be examined, and if you have acted badly two things will happen: a) the focus will turn away from the other editor, and your goal in asking for action will be thwarted; and b) you may get sanctioned or blocked. I have seen many an ANI thread derail because the original poster had dirty hands. Jytdog (talk) 00:29, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Refactoring
Do not do strikeouts like this. If you disagree then it is ok to say so, as you did, but striking out is not acceptable. Strikeouts should usually be done by the person who posted, as a correction to their original message. Revdels are a completely different matter, of course, but you do not have the privileges to enact them and, frankly, you're not going to get those privileges any time soon if you persist in your rather prissy attempts to stifle the comments of others. - Sitush (talk) 00:36, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- Huh....I've seen ANI's and AFD's where normal editors strike out other people comments, using citing irrelevance to discussion....I guess confusion caused it. —JJBers 00:40, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- There is a time when you may get away with it. You're nowhere near the number of edits or years of experience for that and, frankly, I doubt that you can find many examples at ANI or elsewhere. Just use a bit of common sense: say what you think as a response but do not presume to censor others. FWIW, I think you are right regarding your objections in this instance. I also think that there may be an issue regarding CLEANSTART in relation to Inlinetext ... but that is one for another day. - Sitush (talk) 00:45, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- It bothers me too. I am also bothered how you feel you can unilaterally end discussion. You seem very invested in getting this article deleted. Why? Why not just let the closer decide, and if there is no consensus, let the discussion run? --David Tornheim (talk) 20:12, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Quite good, Thanks!
Much thanks for excellent work. Your recent edit to Norwalk, Connecticut is much appreciated. Carry on!——StephenTS42 (talk) 03:48, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
- Thirded. Oh no wait. Ceoil (talk) 09:59, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
Discussion at COIN
I realize wanting to participate, but maybe we should let the COIN regulars sort this out—especially, since Inlinetext is much more involved in the conversation and you two already had experienced a certain level of acrimony. I'd prefer not to resort to something compulsory like an interaction ban... Thanks. El_C 18:35, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
- @El C: Yeah, good point. I really have nothing much to contribute there other than one attempt at getting more commercial entities found. I'll leave at this point. —JJBers 13:13, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
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Page “List of countries whose capital is not their largest city”
Hello, on 19 March 2017 you edited the page “List of countries whose capital is not their largest city”. You removed the voice about Italy saying “Rome is still the largest city”, but this is not correct. Rome is the largest by just its municipality population but Milan is far larger both in terms of urban population and metropolitan population. You can easily check this on the Internet, in studies by OECD, UNO, EUROSTAT, etc, and in every other page of Wikipedia (e.g. “List of metropolitan areas of Italy” or “List of metropolitan areas in Europe”). If this page refers just to the city proper population, then the caption below the picture is wrong as it says “Countries whose capital is not their largest city or metropolitan area”, and at least some data as Shanghai (34 mln is metro population) should be fixed and the entire page should be renamed “List of countries whose capital is not their largest city by municipality population”. More correctly and wisely, I think this page should consider the metro (or urban) population, since the real size of a city is given by its metro area, not the municipality. In this case, there should definitely be a voice about Italy, as Milan is without any doubt larger than the Capital (and Naples is larger too). Thanks (and sorry for my english) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.54.232.181 (talk) 14:57, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
- 82.54.232.181, I see that it seems to be mixed up and using either the metro area on some entries, or the city proper, like Shanghai, it's metro area is used, but in Washington D.C., it's city proper is used as it's population. I believe that the city proper should be the way the rankings are determined, due to the fact that metro areas can be too broad in some countries, and it updated the population less often. —JJBers 15:07, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
That's true but some cities have a municipality that is much smaller than their real urban size. That is the case of Milan, Naples and also Paris or Barcelona. Other cities instead, have a city proper population that corresponds or is even larger than their actual size, like Rome or Berlin. That's why I think it's not correct not to put Italy in this list, as Milan is actually far larger than Rome. And also Naples is. Anyway I understand what you say. But in this case, if this list it is determined by the city proper, then it should be at least renamed "List of countries whose capital is not their largest city (by municipality population) , the statement "or metropolitan area" from the picture caption should be deleted and every data should be homogenous. If I may suggest, best thing would be making a list determined by the municipality and another list by the metro area. I think it would be more correct and very exhaustive. Anyway, thanks a lot! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.54.235.28 (talk) 16:31, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
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