User talk:Jo-Anne Green

November 2007

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Turbulence.org

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Jo-Anne: I noticed that you have recreated the Turbulence.org article. I am not sure if you are aware, but Wikipedia's policies on copyright are more complicated that simply allowing you to release the material for our use. In fact, there are a few issues with the article in its present form, and the copyright situation is only one:

I should preface this by mentioning that I am not myself too well-versed in Wikipedia's copyright policies and guidelines. However, I have ascertained this much: even if you, the contributing editor, are the original author of the material in question, a few conditions need to be fulfilled before it can be added to a Wikipedia article. The material must be licensed in a way that complies with the above-linked copyright policies, and it must bear a copyright notice at the original source.

Also, it's probably best not to copy material from another source directly into a Wikipedia article, even if you are the legal copyright owner. Wikipedia requires that all article subjects meet certain notability criteria, and the tone of an article is meant to be encyclopedic, while the "about" section of an organization's web site will almost certainly be biased in the subject's favor, and read like an advertisement.

Lastly, in situations where an article you've created has been deleted, please try to understand the reasons for the deletion and improve upon them. Wikipedia policy indicates that any copyright violation, even grey areas, need to be deleted quickly, to avoid any legal complications. The best thing, if you'd like the article to hold up on Wikipedia, would most likely be to rephrase what you'd originally written, citing third-party sources as you go. Please check out the "writing your first article" link in the deletion tag at the article, and feel free to contact me if you've any questions!

Oh, and an aside: the note identifying yourself as the content's creator was appropriate and appreciated on the talk page, but as it was not a part of the article, it probably didn't belong in the body itself. --Moralis (talk) 01:33, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note

Hi Jo-Anne- My name is Philippe, and I'm an administrator here. I strongly encourage you to read the information on creating your first Wikipedia article. Simply pasting text directly copied from a website - even if it's text that you wrote - is insufficient for it to be here. Information must be freely licensed, meaning clear of any copyright. In this case, the text appears on the website of an organization that could claim copyright over it. In order to protect ourselves legally, we simply can't allow that text to be used here.

I know this is a frustrating experience, and I'd like to invite you to be in contact with me directly if you need help. I'm not terribly active on Wikipedia, because I'm deeply involved in our strategic planning process, but if you'd like to email me, you can go to my talk page and press the link on the left side that says "e-mail this user". I'm happy to see how we can help you out.

Best wishes,

Philippe

Hi Philippe,

Not sure this is how I respond. Please bare in mind that I'm trying to this on my own. Helen is 88 years old, and I seem to be the only person who knows her well enough to do this. While I did initially copy and paste her bio, I have added to it and changed almost everything since then.

I appreciate your help; please bare with me as I search for the verification you require.

Warmly, Jo

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File permission problem with File:Helen Thorington, New York City Studio, 1981.jpg

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Wikipedia and copyright

Hello Jo-Anne Green, and welcome to Wikipedia. All or some of your addition(s) to Helen Thorington has had to be removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material without permission from the copyright holder. While we appreciate your contributing to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from your sources to avoid copyright or plagiarism issues here.

You can only copy/translate a small amount of a source, and you must mark what you take as a direct quotation with double quotation marks (") and cite the source using an inline citation. You can read about this at Wikipedia:Non-free content in the sections on "text". See also Help:Referencing for beginners, for how to cite sources here.
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It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. — Diannaa (talk) 00:36, 13 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion pending for File:Helen Thorington in her New York City studio, 1981. Photo. Susan Ryan.jpg

Hello, Jo-Anne Green. Some time ago, a file you uploaded — File:Helen Thorington in her New York City studio, 1981. Photo. Susan Ryan.jpg — was tagged with {{OTRS pending}}, indicating that you (or perhaps the copyright holder if you did not create this image) submitted a statement of permission to permissions-en@wikimedia.org. Though there is often a backlog processing messages received at this address, we should have received your message by now.

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Speedy deletion nomination of User:Jo-Anne Green

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Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because I am the rightful owner of this page and have adequate references to authenticate my claim.

Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. Please note that Wikipedia is not the place for you to post your résumé, curriculum vitae, or similar material. It is also unlikely that anyone will ever see it, and anyone can alter the info you post. Please read this policy page describing what Wikipedia is not. Your résumé or CV will soon be deleted as this constitutes advertising, which is not allowed. You may also want to read our policies on conflicts of interest and autobiographies. Thank you.

You are not the owner of any page on Wikipedia. A user page is allotted to you for use within the project guidelines. Deb (talk) 17:21, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I did not copy and paste my resume. I wrote the text freehand. There are a few lists which I can remove, but I have seen lists on Wikipedia before, including the page I made for Helen Thorington. The references are there to prove I am a person who deserves to be on Wikipedia. Jo-Anne Green (talk) 21:09, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand what you mean. We are not interested in your CV and you should not write about yourself on Wikipedia. Please read the guidelines and, if you think there are grounds for undeletion, please go to the appropriate place. Deb (talk) 07:27, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Probably should not have been deleted via U5 though, as the user has mainspace contributions. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 06:28, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Jo-Anne Green (talk) 17:04, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, Jo-Anne Green. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Helen Thorington, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Belbury (talk) 16:36, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please take a look at the message above, and the guidelines it links to. You should not be adding facts about yourself into articles. Belbury (talk) 16:59, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I’m trying my best to be neutral and not engage in promotion. Jo-Anne Green (talk) 16:59, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You should not directly edit articles about yourself; instead you should use the article talk page to make formal edit requests(click for instructions) so independent editors can review your proposed edits. 331dot (talk) 17:01, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The articles are not about myself. They’re about the nonprofit I used to work for and people related to it. Nobody else is willing to leave a record of the important work we did. The organization closed in 2017 so I’m not promoting it, just making sure its legacy is secure. Jo-Anne Green (talk) 17:08, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The policy quoted above plainly says to "avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization, clients, or competitors". You still have a conflict of interest if you no longer work for the company, especially when writing directly about yourself. By adding your 2008 exhibition as the only example of virtual world live event, the article suggests that this is the only such event worth mentioning. This is a form of self-promotion.

The policy says for editors with a conflict of interest to avoid directly editing articles they have a connection to, not to try their best to be neutral. You should be making these suggestions on the article talk pages. Belbury (talk) 17:31, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I give up. Jo-Anne Green (talk) 14:39, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I wrote this article in May 2016; nobody has given me a hard time until now. How do you expect marginalized individuals and organizations to be included in Wikipedia if you won’t allow people familiar with them to contribute. It’s discouraging and discriminatory, especially when I have included tons of references and citations. Jo-Anne Green (talk) 14:51, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You're very much welcome to contribute! Your edits have been constructive and appreciated. Your contribution just has to be made via the talk page of an article, or a draft in your user space, rather than direct edits, when it relates to a subject where you have a conflict of interest.

The seven year delay in anyone mentioning this policy to you must just be that I was the first person to notice that it applied. Belbury (talk) 12:13, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's also likely because the standards around COI editing have gotten significantly stricter over time. Jo-Anne, you're very welcome to join the WP:ELIT wikiproject if you're interested. There are editors there who will be happy to help preserve this kind of information and would appreciate your input. -- asilvering (talk) 16:40, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Requesting COI edits

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