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Template:World nuke plant map[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:01, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused poorly designed map template. Can't aid in navigating through the articles. Should be left to any relevant navboxes. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:58, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete this unused map-article hybrid. Template says the content should be in Nuclear power in World, but that is a red link. Gonnym (talk) 13:04, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Madrid-Príncipe Pío-Pinar de las Rozas railway RDT[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 23:23, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused railway route templates with no mainspace for use. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:19, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. All unused and the main article link from each template is also a red link. Gonnym (talk) 13:02, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Holocaust Greece[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 05:02, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused and the topic is already better covered by Template:Jews in Greece that has all the same links for the specific topic. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:35, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose The other template is not for this specific topic and does not cover it well. Not unused. (t · c) buidhe 23:04, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
How many links are in this one that's not featured in Jews in Greece? --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:10, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Most of them. (t · c) buidhe 23:19, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I'm not seeing the need for a separate template like this. They should be included into the Jews in Greece template. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:31, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
No, actually the Greece Holocaust template should be expanded with more content. We have similar templates for other countries. (t · c) buidhe 23:32, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. I think that there are enough unique articles here that it's worth it to make its own template. I don't think merging into {{Jews in Greece}} is the best way to provide a navigational tool here. — Mhawk10 (talk) 01:52, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per above, and rename as Template:The Holocaust in Greece. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:22, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose: relevant template; consistent with other Holocaust by country templates. Not unused. --K.e.coffman (talk) 17:30, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Monster (EP) tracks[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 23:18, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused tracklist that's not necessary as the articles are already better navigated by Template:Red Velvet - Irene & Seulgi. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:35, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. Does not provide any additional aid in navigation. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 02:38, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Qing dynasty beiles[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 23:19, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing but redlinks. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:30, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Tabletop games[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 23:23, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

An unused template with no direct links to any tabletop games. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:28, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This topic could have a navbox, but the current version isn't it. The navbox shouldn't mix article links and category links and it should also be more factual correct. Some of the topics listed at the "Board game" sections, are actually game mechanics which can be played in card games as well. This needs a lot of work and as the template's creator hasn't commented yet at this TfD, delete as unused and in bad condition. Gonnym (talk) 13:10, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Basketball at the 1992 Summer Olympics – Men's tournament[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 23:23, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A unnecessary navbox with no real links to any events. Redundant to Template:Basketball at the 1992 Summer Olympics. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:25, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Flag data Isaaq Sultanate[edit]

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 December 23. Izno (talk) 23:24, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Ordinaries of the Archdiocese of Omaha[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 23:21, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

An unused duplicate of Template:Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Omaha at least for the links which are featured in the latter template. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:20, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Fiji class cruiser[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 23:21, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused template with no text other than two categories. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:12, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Mughal Emperors Tree[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 23:20, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused chart tree and navbox that's unnecessary as Template:Mughal Empire features all the same links to the emperors' articles.

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Template:Case Western Reserve Spartans men's ice hockey navbox[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 23:21, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused navbox and fails NEAN with only three links. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:02, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I set up the box a while back and have yet to get around to filling out more information. I'll get around to it when I can get my hands on the source material. I don't know how long that will take, so I can't say when I'll get to it, but I won't be left empty forever. PensRule11385 (talk) 23:46, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Content first, then navbox if necessary. Not the other way round. Nigej (talk) 17:47, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:World Soccer Footballer of the Year[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 20:16, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

World Soccer is a magazine and its rankings are not notable in the truest sense that it deserves navboxes for its rankings for what they consider the greatest individuals in the sport's history. This falls under Francruft and is not needed. Nor are these awards templates despite being categorized as such, but also the information is already featured in list format on World Soccer's article. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:32, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 17:28, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all - a sports magazine awards? No evidence of notability. GiantSnowman 17:30, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all - This type of template is useless for navigation. The fact that they're generally hidden away in a section called "awards" shows that they're really just decorative. Players generally have a section on "Honours" which users can use to see details of the awards. We've got vast numbers of templates like this which need clearing out (and I mean generally, not just football). Nigej (talk) 17:28, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:GAN peer review sidebar[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G7 by Izno (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 01:02, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused sidebar that's not used at all currently for good article nominations. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:37, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Speedy delete: This was something I made probably when I was bored, and I never really used it. Took me a while to come back to the reality that almost every single PR is for GANs (except for FACs, of which they have their own sidebar for a reason). However I never really came back to this until now. Sheesh, the embarrassment. But yeah, please delete this, and sorry for this-- I sure have learned a lot since my first year. GeraldWL 03:52, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Asante Kotoko 2013-14 winning squad[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 20:12, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused navbox for a sports team that didn't win a championship but qualified for a tournament it didn't end up winning. This isn't needed. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:29, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete as we don't keep nav boxes for football tournament participation, unless it's the World Cup. The current squad is adequately covered with Template:Asante Kotoko squad. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:22, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete per Joseph, we do not have historical templates like this for standard club seasons. GiantSnowman 17:29, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Nigej (talk) 17:45, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Sri Lankan Actors[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 20:12, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Only links to two articles. Doesn't seem to serve any functional purpose. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 18:05, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Villages in Manoor Mandal[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 20:13, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not a standard template and was probably a test. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:59, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Party shading/Alberta/PC and siblings[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 20:14, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions, no incoming links, no documentation, no categories. Only edit was creation in 2012. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:28, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Houston sports teams[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 20:14, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions, no incoming links, no documentation, no categories. Only substantive edit was creation in 2006. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:23, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:HoverDetLink[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 20:14, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions, no incoming links, no documentation, no categories. Only edit was creation in 2016. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:21, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:User:Denimadept/Da-vandal1[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 20:15, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

These are user-specific templates that have duplicates at User:Denimadept/Da-not1 and User:Denimadept/Da-vandal1, both of which work fine. See User talk:Denimadept#Unusual templates for my attempt to explain to this editor why these pages do not need to exist, and should not exist, in Template space. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:57, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Sailing at the 2024 Summer Olympics[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 20:15, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused, redlinks, and too early as we're not anywhere near 2024. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:43, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

comment the events are defined and the template is also a menu within the main page. It creates no additional work or creates any issues having this infobox or pages. In addition there is no policy against red links in infobox many have them and this unlike a lot will not remain redlinks and promotes a standardized naming protocol when created --Yachty4000 (talk) 22:15, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
There are no pages as of yet for this to be used. That's the major issue here. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:17, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:23, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Content first, then navbox if required. Not the other way round. Nigej (talk) 17:31, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:South Asia topic[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 20:17, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused templates that are not topic templates. These just link to the countries in the respective geographical divisions of Asia. And we don't each geographical region topic templates when the main continent-based topic templates cover the entire continent already. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:39, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment the template coding indicates these are topic templates, and you provide the parameters to decide what topics they link to. In default mode without provided parameters, it links to countries, however it's not the only way to use the template, since, according to the documentation, you can specify the topic, just like other other topic templates. Also, there are a lot of countries in Asia, so it rather makes sense to divvy it up by region, instead of using the Asia topics template, which is just a mass of links -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 22:48, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[Note: I have commented out some template examples below in order to fix the PEIS expansion limit problem on the TFD page. Editors can copy the examples to their sandboxes to see how these unused templates are intended to work. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:50, 21 December 2021 (UTC)][reply]

If you mean "mass of links" to include a bunch of links that are hard to navigate through the topic the template provides, then that is inaccurate. Take a look at how the main Asia topic template links to articles for a topic such as Human rights in Asia for instance. It's divided up into respective sections with clear navigation. Each region doesn't need a topic template. One template is already doing the job. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:09, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
All of this philosophizing is irrelevant. What matters is that these templates are unused, and should be deleted for that reason alone. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:23, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Deadliest winter storms[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 20:15, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused table format template. Not sure if the table deserves to be in template format because its scope is pretty limited. One article, Carolean 1719, is not a deadly storm. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:30, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Sada Baby[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 16:03, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused and fails NEAN. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:57, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Mapframe road[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 16:03, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused with the only major edit being its creation. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:37, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:World Superbikes Rounds[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 16:03, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused with a sea full of redlinks. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:20, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Police brutality[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:58, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Redundant to Template:Police brutality topics sidebar which is being used. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 14:54, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Early Brahmic scripts[edit]

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 December 23. Izno (talk) 16:02, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Hbrdagesh[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:31, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All are now unused. Other templates from this set nominated here and here. Gonnym (talk) 11:46, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Hbrhatafpatah and similar templates[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 06:44, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This type of template is no longer in use because WP:NIQQUD has been resolved. Q28 (talk) 05:49, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as unused and per creator. However, I'm not sure why the entire set, again, wasn't nominated... Gonnym (talk) 11:42, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I don't have time. The inconvenience caused to you.--Q28 (talk) 07:46, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You don't have time going over 12 more templates in the same category that you choose to nominate? If that is the case, I'd suggest slowing down with the quantity of your nominations and focus more on the quality of them. Gonnym (talk) 18:55, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
To editor Gonnym:At that time my mobile phone was out of power, so I can't finish the rest of the nomination.--Q28 (talk) 09:25, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This argument makes absolutely no sense. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:23, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:23, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:England v Scotland rivalry[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 06:43, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not used since 2017.,,, Q28 (talk) 05:22, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Dutch municipality from code/unnamed[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 06:44, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, okay, but the template is not used. Q28 (talk) 05:21, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Don't edit this line dagger[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. As a passing completely unrelated note, expanding templates in Lua is relatively expensive; from what I know the module of interest in this discussion has had issues hitting the Lua timeout, so this would be an easy win for performance. Izno (talk) 06:47, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused. The embedded content of this template is 0 due to an error in the module. Please fix this error and then I can withdraw a nomination. Q28 (talk) 05:16, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Q28: what is the error in the template (not module)? How do you know it's unused? In general, the "Don't edit this line ..." templates have very high usage as part of the WP:Automated taxobox system, but are only called from Lua modules. Peter coxhead (talk) 06:36, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This doesn't answer the question of whether it's used, but it appears to behave correctly (it's invoked via a taxonomy template with |machine code=dagger):
  • {{Taxonomy/Saturnalia|machine code=dagger}} → †
  • {{Taxonomy/Felis|machine code=dagger}} →
It returns a dagger (the symbol for extinction) if the taxonomy template marks the taxon as extinct. Peter coxhead (talk) 07:01, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. All of the Template:Don't edit this line/doc/variants are called from taxon templates in the Template:Taxonomy/ hierarchy. Of those all but the main template, {{Don't edit this line}} itself, are all called from getTaxonInfoItem in Module:Autotaxobox. In particular, it should be noted that the code there essentially turns requests for the dagger item into an alternate rendering of the extinct item (much like the template this TfD is about does). So effectively Template:Don't edit this line dagger is unused (although it does function properly as Peter coxhead mentioned above). I see no real bugs. That said, I also see very little usefulness of the entire variant set. In a fashion similar to how getTaxonInfoItem handles dagger, it could be made to make requests for all such data items as alternative renderings of all and we could be done with all of those templates except the main one and all (although it might make more sense to make a different one for the "all" to keep; perhaps |machine code=json and then put the result through mw.text.jsonDecode to auto parse into a Lua table). Use of such to fetch the data could also be entirely dispensed with if the module code just directly parsed the content of the taxonomy templates itself (via something like mw.title.new("Template:Taxonomy"):subPageTitle(taxon):getContent()). Of course parsing general wikitext can be non-trivial. —Uzume (talk) 17:10, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Uzume: when I converted the core parts of the automated taxobox system to Lua – the parts that traverse the taxonomic hierarchy encoded in the taxonomy templates, I deliberately left the very bottom functionality as it was, i.e. in the wikitemplate language. Part of the reason was that there were multiple automatic taxobox templates (there are now more, currently nine), and it would require some investigation to be sure that all of them at every point go via getTaxonInfoItem. I'm also not clear why parsing the entire taxonomy template every time a single field is required would be more efficient or effective that the present use of a separate template for each field.
The automated taxobox system has developed over more than 10 years, and been constructed, modified and maintained by multiple editors. I have learnt from experience that making any change, however obvious it might appear in advance, is fraught with unexpected consequences. So as nothing is actually broken, my view is that nothing needs "fixing". Peter coxhead (talk) 14:48, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Did you know/Paste[edit]

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The result of the discussion was redirect to User:DYKUpdateBot/REMOVE THIS LINE. Izno (talk) 06:42, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It was confirmed that the template was no longer used because it was superseded by User:DYKUpdateBot/REMOVE THIS LINE. Q28 (talk) 05:02, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Redirect one to the other, since the DYKbot template isn't in templatespace, it should be findable from templatespace -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 23:05, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect per 65.92.246.142. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:23, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:DisestcatCountry/checkuse[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete per G7. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:52, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This template is no longer used because of some functional changes. Q28 (talk) 04:59, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete (as creator). This sub-template became redundant in 2019, with this upgrade[1] to its parent template. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:05, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Display size[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 05:00, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

According to the existing data, the template has not been used since 2015. Q28 (talk) 04:58, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:STV Election box candidate2 with custom party[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. Izno (talk) 16:02, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused election table template. Gonnym (talk) 13:39, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Template is now used -- I should have changed some election results to use it when I created it, but forgot to do so. (It's possible that the function which this template adds could be better provided by modifying another template, but I didn't want to mess with any of those myself since I'm not familiar with the contexts in which they're used.) -- Vardion (talk) 20:23, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    It would seem you need to request that the color you are missing be added to Template:Canadian party colour/colour, which itself should probably be merged into Module:Political party. @Primefac did you know about the Canada colors? Gonnym (talk) 10:06, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    If one template like the Canada one wants to store a bunch of information, that's fine by me (for now). You're welcome to request that it be merged in, but personally I'd wait until the /meta/ mess is dealt with first. Primefac (talk) 16:03, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 15:16, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • Comment Now that it is being used one article, does this count as a single-use template that would require replacement by another template or some form of substitution? --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:43, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, since it is used, unless all of its functions can be provided by a similar template. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:44, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:ATC code C02[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 11:59, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused templates that group together two or more templates that are being used. Don't see the necessity in grouping these templates under the ATC subject when the individual templates are already doing the job. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:17, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Miss Chile winners in the Big Four pageants[edit]

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 December 23. Izno (talk) 07:33, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Miss Canada winners in the Big Four pageants[edit]

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 December 23. Izno (talk) 07:33, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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