Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries/October 12

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If you took the time to check your facts you would know that there was not a "racial brawl" on the Kitty Hawk on October 12. The fact of the matter is that the precipitating factor is that one sailor stole another sailors wallet which is what truly led to the disturbance. It is disingenuous at best to blame this event on race - it was a crime perpetrated by one individual that led to a large fight.

Columbus discovery of America[edit]

Shouldn't this event be inserted in selected anniversaries?--Panairjdde 11:46, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

I am in agreement with Pana!

Matthew Shepard[edit]

Matthew Shepard died 10 years ago, October 12, 1998, as a result of being beaten and left tied to a fence in Wyoming. His death made international headlines as a particularly egregious example of gay bashing. It surprised me that it wasn't included in the list of selected anniversaries, and it doubly surprised me that, despite text inviting me to edit the list, I couldn't, since it was fully protected. This is the danger of prophylactic protection of pages; Good-faith editors with a long history of contributions are prohibited from improving the encyclopedia without cause. So, why not Matthew Shepard? --SSBohio 14:12, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Most likely it was omitted because of an unintended oversight (although, isn't the day that Shepard was actually attacked, October 7, more significant?). As for you trying to edit this page at the moment you did, it was probably because it was appearing on the main page, or about to appear there (see Wikipedia:FAQ/Main Page#Why am I not able to edit the Main Page?). Cheers. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 16:38, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Correctin to Colombus entry[edit]

Colombus actually made first landfall on Samana Cay. San Salvador Island was formerly thought to be the correct location, but this was formally corrected in 1986, when the National Geographic Society affirmed that he first visited Samana Cay. -109.150.145.19 (talk) 18:29, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

The Christopher Columbus article still says it's unknown exactly where he landed, and even the Samana Cay article only claims that some historians believe that was the place. howcheng {chat} 07:42, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

2012 notes[edit]

howcheng {chat} 10:41, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 12 October 2012[edit]

The summary for Jeanne Geneviève Labrosse describing her parachute "jump" is misleading, since she didn't get out of the gondola; the whole gondola descended by parachute. The first actual parachute jump may not have taken place until 1887 in San Francisco (see http://www.cliffhouseproject.com/history/baldwin/baldwin.htm). I suggest something like:

Jeanne Geneviève Labrosse became the first woman to make a parachute descent from a hot-air balloon (artwork pictured), falling 900 m (3,000 ft) in the balloon's gondola.

WolfmanSF (talk) 03:31, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. howcheng {chat} 07:58, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

2013 notes[edit]

howcheng {chat} 05:59, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

2014 notes[edit]

howcheng {chat} 07:27, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

2015 request[edit]

@Howcheng:, this is the 100th anniversary of the execution of Edith Cavell. Please can we make sure this features. Mjroots (talk) 08:45, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Got it. howcheng {chat} 15:57, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

2015 notes[edit]

howcheng {chat} 08:16, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Day of Tasu'a[edit]

Dear Howcheng! Day of Tasu'a falls one day before Day of Ashura. Tasu's means ninth and Ashura means tenth in Arabic, AFAIK. So, Day of Tasu'a should go to October 10. Thanks. --Mhhossein talk 12:16, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

Oh sorry, I went to WikiConference North America this weekend and did not see your post. Sorry the article did not make it in this year. Next time, please try WP:ERRORS if you don't get a response from me. howcheng {chat} 07:48, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

2016 notes[edit]

howcheng {chat} 17:46, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

2017 notes[edit]

howcheng {chat} 16:34, 12 October 2017 (UTC)