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Kawaii discussion

How kawaii is this? — Deckiller 07:56, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Very. Thunderbird-ko (also 1, I have no idea what that says) is pretty cute too! ^^ -AlexJohnc3 My Talk Page 19:23, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

I love it! (Wikimachine 19:59, 14 August 2006 (UTC))

EYAAAAAH I knows isn'ts she with her little outfits?! UWAAH *holds face, blushes, squees and wobblies arounds* ~ SnuggleBunny 13:14, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

I love Wikipe-tan! Let's make her the Wiki mascot for the entire website. NoseNuggets 12:44 AM US EDT Aug 4 2006

Why a maid?

Okay, maybe I just don't get this whole "moé" thing, but why is Wikipedia represented as a maid? Wouldn't a librarian or something make more sense? Andrew Levine 15:44, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm thinking of "clean-up" ^_^. But I'm sure there is an extremly logical reason why she's in a maid outfit, the OS-tan all have completly sane reasons why they look like they do. Calicore 17:40, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, Kasuga creat her as formascot of WikiProject Anime and manga. And maid outfit is ultra-popular costume for Moe character, librarian is not (as far as I known). Think of it, the first OS-Tans, Me-tan also has maid outfit. Then again, the idea of Wikipe-tan in librarian outfit seem to be nice idea but...what kind of costume need for being librarian? Maybe her holding Wikipede doll might be better. L-Zwei 04:10, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipe-tan wasn't made for WP:ANIME, and I wouldn't be surprised if she pre-dated the WikiProject. Kasuga simply made us some newer images for use when he found out that we were interested in using her as a mascot. And while I do like the new color images, I gotta say.. old-school Wikipe-tan are my personal favorites. -- Ned Scott 04:22, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I endorse the above message. _dk 04:36, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Maids serve. Wikipedia serves the readers. Makes perfect sense. _dk 04:12, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Man, Kasuga does some nice artwork. Maids ftw! User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 04:12, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Librarian would be a better costume variant IMHO. She can wear the maid costume in her vandal clean-up duties. OS-Tans can wear different costumes; she should be easily identifiable with her Wiki hair ornaments. Just a thought -- Eqdoktor 07:00, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

She's an admin at work, cleaning up on the wiki! - David Gerard 11:59, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

AKismet 03:56, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

First of all I have to say that I adore this image, that I have just now saw. I never thought of it, and it is great that Wikipedia has a "-tan" as well :D. It's much better than that awful "Wikipede" caterpillar. I understand the metaphor of her being a maid, cleaning spam and all, and I liked it, but still, it does not quite fit. I saw a school girl as well, but I don't feel that it is quite it either. Wikipedia is not studying, it is sharing knowledge, and that, I think, the main point of Wikipedia. What about Greek dressing, like a toga? It does not quite fit the new age, but it would give Wikipe-tan a philosophical (and somewhat humble) notion. It is also a reference to the old forums, where everyone could come and join a big discussion, which is more or less what we do here. I also believe that it should have more wikipedian symbols, the puzzle pieces fit well but there has to be more things. I'm not quite sure what to add, but what about a book? (or perhaps, a disc?) Nefzen 12:05, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Her age?

She does look very much like a child. Would we agree that her birthday was on January 15, 2001, the same day Wikipedia launched? --24.255.155.100 00:28, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

• I think 8 January 2006, when Kasuga introduced her to Futaba Channel is more make sense. Unless we're going to give her some fictional background :D .L-Zwei 03:21, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Wouldn't that make her a baby? --Littleghostboo[ talk ] 05:35, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Just like deity in myth, she born as teen girl, not infant. Though there is image depict her as infant and mature girl as well. L-Zwei 05:41, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Exept that Wikipe-tan isn't myth. All praise her!James.Denholm 01:46, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

• Wikipe-tan "is" Wikipedia as such, and her "birthday" in fiction would then be January 15th 2001. But her real date of invention would be January 8th 2006. --GunnarRene 03:23, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
• Most fictional characters are ageless, thus she wouldn't grow old when Wikipedia has been around for 50 years, etc. I'm not sure there's much of a point to make an "age" for her.. -- Ned Scott 05:59, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

We could make her immortal since she's already fictional. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 15:41, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

I have to agree, making her the same age as Wikipedia itself (that is, born at 2001) only makes sense, since she is supposed to be Wikipedia itself. Making her an infant would hardly fit our fast growing Wikipedia, though in my opinion, in the future to come making her mature is reasonable, but never old. Nefzen 11:40, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikipe-tan featured in a magazine

From Wikipedia:Village pump (news)#Wikipe-tan makes a cameo appearance in UK magazine Games TM

"Wikipe-tan, the Wikipedia OS-tan has found its way into the latest edition of GamesTM magazine (issue 48). It's found on page 30 beside a regular column on the Japanese Gaming scene by correspondant Tim Rogers. The article is absolutely nothing about Wikipedia, but instead about the maid cafe culture in Japan. - Hahnchen 01:01, 13 September 2006 (UTC)" (see Image:Wikipe-tan GamesTM.jpg)

I guess they just looked around for a free-use anime-style maid image. Flattering all the same, although a citation would have been nice. Shiroi Hane 07:45, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

I may be wrong, but I thought the GDFL required certain things (i.e. re-licensing the derivative product under GDFL, credit, and access to the original copy.) Hmm. --Kunzite 12:26, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

On that line of thought, I was wondering, does this mean that the above linked image is under GDFL now? Also, it's very likely that credit was given, just not on the same page (often image and photograph credits and copyright info is given on another page in the magazine, along with info about editors, etc). -- Ned Scott 23:53, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Since the image is a scan of a GFDL image being used in a magazine, then yes, it would also be GFDL (since GFDL requires that) since it doesn't really include anything else from the article and is really low-res anyway (looks like someone snapped a picture, rather than scanning the page). That's my interpretation, anyway. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 15:39, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

PS, I do have a copy now and, on a brief flick, could not see any specific image credits given other than a general clause at the back. Shiroi Hane 17:16, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

I just came across this little note last night from Commons, Commons:Image copyright tags#GNU Licenses:

"Please note: The GFDL is rather impractical for images and short text, because it requires the full text of the GFDL to be published along with the image. This is prohibitive for print media: in order to use a single image in a newspaper, a full page containing the GFDL would have to be printed. To resolve this, please dual-license your work under GFDL and an equivalent Creative Commons license like CC-by-sa-2.5 (see below). This helps to make your work usable not only freely, but also easily."

So yeah, it looks like Games TM didn't do all that was required. -- Ned Scott 18:27, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

POTD

FYI, Image:Wikipe-tan full length.png is scheduled to be the Wikipedia:Picture of the day on October 2, 2006. howcheng {chat} 00:23, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Wikipe-tan, a moé anthropomorphization of Wikipedia, similar in theme to an OS-tan. In Japanese animation, "moé" characters are those designed to elicit a protective or loving response from the audience. Moé anthropomorphism is a form of anthropomorphism where moé qualities are given to non-human beings, objects, concepts, or phenomena. Like many moé characters, Wikipe-tan is designed to be a cute young girl, and this image shows her in a maid costume. Image credit: Kasuga Archive - More featured pictures...

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Anime sickens me

I hate anime so much!! It's a grossly perverted image of the human anatomy that unrealistically portrays characters as good, or bad. Their personalities are generally exaggerated and obnoxious. Gender and age roles are almost always are exactly what they [i]"should"[/i] be. It is a disgrace to the concept of art. It is often so overly cute it makes me sick. I never, ever, ever, ever, ever would want to be represented by that!! Why would this be used to represent anything except... a cartoon group, or something??-- —The preceding unsigned comment was added by The strategy freak (talk • contribs) .

How very ironic that you have this image on your talk page...--Kunzite 00:07, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

I like anime so much! It's great to see people focus on sentimental and emotional expression than anatomy. Think, if I want accurate anatomy I would watch movie instead of cartoon or anime! It is improved concept of art "focus on express your feeling and forget all anatomy crap!". That's why this should be used to represent everything except... a heartless group. Of cause, there're anime without heart. But I won't bother with them anyway. L-Zwei 05:40, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Deletion?!?!?!

Why on earth would the Wikipe-tan article get deleted? It was a POTD! Will someone please tell me? -Rich

It wasn't deleted, it was moved to Wikipedia:Wikipe-tan -- Ned Scott 21:39, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

CVG WikiProject mascot?

Please see this thread. I've proposed using Wikipe-tan as the mascott for the WikiProject Computer and video games. jaco♫plane 04:57, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Trivia

Little-known facts!

Wikipe-tan's full name is Wikipedia Esperanza Ubuntu Averroes Danger Stallman, her blood type is O (the universal donor), and her birthday is January 5. Her favorite food is tamago kake gohan. Ashibaka tock 20:11, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

When did she start her career as our idol? ^_^ L-Zwei 05:32, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Kasuga's Japanese site

I found his Japanese site too (it was linked from his devianArt but I never noticed it before...), though it has no Wikipe-tan in it. I'll post it here in case anyone is interested. There are some really interesting things in there XD http://www.geocities.jp/kasuga399/ Enjoy _dk 00:11, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

And I found another. I can conclude that if I were to ask Kasuga to draw a Wikipe-tan for the lolicon page... it wouldn't be as difficult as I previously thought. http://kasuga39.e-city.tv/ (Not for the faint of heart) _dk 05:16, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Now I remember the request for Wikipe-tan hentai (which were moved to BJODN section), it look like Kasuga may grant the wish if asked gently...L-Zwei 05:45, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedians generaly look better with clothes on.Geni 23:39, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

The funny thing is someone in his guestbook already asked when Wikipe-tan would make an appearance there. _dk 01:44, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, if he really does one, will we include the H art here as well? ^_^ L-Zwei 04:57, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

If he does do this, lets hope he makes it a different character, so that it would not be "Wikipe-tan". Don't get me wrong, I can be pretty perverted too, but I don't like my peas touching my mash potatoes. I get the same impression from Kasuga since he puts up this stuff on a separate website from his other art. -- Ned Scott 05:03, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Cool Cat has went and asked Kasuga to draw WikiPorno, and Kasuga replied:

Hi, Cool Cat. Sorry for my delay. Thank you for your proposal. However, I wouldn't like to contribute pornography-like arts to Wikipedia or other Wikiprojects. I 'm sorry that I am unable to help you. --カスガ 2006年11月24日 (金) 12:55 (UTC)

I think this pretty much nails the coffin to an official nude Wikipe-tan pic D= _dk 14:16, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Despite being a big pervert, I somehow relive to heard that. L-Zwei 14:52, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

The main mascot

I think she should become the main mascot for Wikipedia. --AAA! ^{(talk • contribs)} 02:03, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

I second that motion. But maybe she should be a bit taller and more grown-up, and maybe use prettier forms of Gothic Lolita. — Rickyrab | Talk 03:22, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

By which I meant more frilly and less black. Oh well, so much for my aesthetic tastes! — Rickyrab | Talk 03:25, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

The formal mascot role is held by the wikipede.Geni 18:11, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Not true. Voting is evil. The true mascot, as decided by consensus, is Wikipe-tan. Ashibaka tock 16:58, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

How about putting the Wikipede, Wikipe-tan, and the leaf-cutter ant together to make a mascot team? That would reflect consensus. — Rickyrab | Talk 06:27, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

which leaf-cutter ant?Geni 23:37, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

On that note, Kasuga once said on his talk page: "Hello 70.105.147.48. It is mere one opinion that Wikipedia's personification is considered to be an innocent girl. If you want that Wikipedia must be a mighty-wise man (like Odin ,Krishna or Dr. Manhattan), of course, you can show concrete sketches of him, and you should. Because, in Wikipedia, it is recommended that there are various opinions for one subject. --Kasuga 13:37, 3 October 2006 (UTC)" -- Ned Scott 05:50, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Filesize optimization

After running the main Wikipe-tan image through PNGOUT, I noticed that the filesizes were much larger than they could be (For instance I got the main image down to 66% of its current size). I was wondering if anyone would object if I systematically replaced the gallery files with optimized ones. Unneeded data is removed, and the remaining data compressed further. The only problem is that their removal may complicate further image-editing efforts. CABAL 13:00, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Maybe only change the ones like the cropped versions, but leave the originals. -- Ned Scott 05:48, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Ran a quick check on the Cropped section. I'll upload newer versions of the following when the Commons account clears: Wikipe-tan face.png and Wikipe-tan head.png. CABAL 14:52, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

game?

There are references to a "retro RPG" and a "visual novel". Are these used as example images, or do these games actually exist?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pierrecurie (talk • contribs) .

They are only examples, and they don't exist, so they should not be portrayed as such. If you find them used in that way, outside of BJAODN, then please correct it. It's accurate to say that Wikipe-tan is drawn in a typical anime style, that she's a moe character etc. but we shouldn't be creating an impression that she's actually appeared in an anime. Until she does. --GunnarRene 14:39, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, there's no reason someone couldn't make them :) There's already a Wikipedia rougelike (sic) that could be given a graphical frontend, however, the objective is to get kicked out of Wikipedia. -Seventh Holy Scripture 14:46, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Fair Use

Could someone please make parody images of superteams, CVG covers, books, webcomics, etc. to replace the fair use on Wikipedia:List of infoboxes/Arts & Entertainment? --Gray Porpoise_{Your wish is my command!} 03:15, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I've made a start Image:Wikipe-tancomics.jpg.Geni 23:36, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipe-tan will win, because there is no Cabal. --AAA! ^(AAAA) 05:15, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

More older looking

Hey im here asking for a more older looking version of wikipe-tan.maybe like the one from the image where she is with a infant and the younger her. the reason? well on my userpage i placed a comment (before i found out about the fair use images) that stated that I think they are hot. as meaning that the girls from anime are hot. but the only problem is now i only have the younger looking girls to work with and well it looks kinda wrong now stating that they are hot. so please help me out with this issue thanksMaverick423 16:19, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

It's an art style. Ashibaka (tock) 02:46, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

And please stop having those feelings for Wikipe-tan. Not saying you do, but that's what it sounds like. James.Denholm 01:55, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Hey! What the...

Tada! Kasuga presents: PPG versus PPGZ.--JSH-alive ^{talk to me}_{see my works}^{mail to me} 05:29, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

image Error?

Her past, now, and future doesnt show anymore?

but when you click on where the picture is supposed to be it pops out and shows the pic. however on the list and links she doesnt come out. is there a error or something going on? Maverick423 17:23, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

The image is working again thanks for whoever fixed it. if no one did then that means it must of been a internal error. Maverick423 17:55, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Sometimes it helps to visit the Image: page and purge it. --GunnarRene 23:46, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

wouldnt purging delete the image though? Maverick423 14:18, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

No, no. Not deleting, purging: Wikipedia:Purge. --GunnarRene 14:19, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

oh i see heh. just recently saw a movie where the guy was saying purge as he deleted all his computer stuff so i got confused for a bit . Maverick423 15:14, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Well purging does mean deleting. It's just that you delete the cache. So what I should have said is "visit the Image: page and purge its cache". --GunnarRene 15:25, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Sweets

Is there any of Wikipe-tan with a lollipop or any other sweets?? ♥Eternal Pink-ready for love♥ 19:10, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

not at the moment. Something could be edited in if it was needed.Geni 03:21, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

ok thanks :} ♥Eternal Pink-ready for love and grace♥ 19:47, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

can anyone think of a resion It might be needed?? lolz ♥Eternal Pink-Ready to fight for love and grace♥ 18:52, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Uhh..what is this?

Just found this link in Japaneese version. L-Zwei 12:05, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Wai~ It's a 3D model of Wikipe-tan! Run it with mmViewer. _dk 13:34, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

problem with name?

"tan"? Is this supposed to be "chan" as in the Japanese suffix used as a term of indearment for young children, cute things, etc. (ex: tama-chan) --Toritaiyo 19:04, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes. "Tan" is used as an intentional mis-speaking of "chan" to make it sound "cuter". Heh. --GunnarRene 19:21, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

See Moe anthropomorphism for more on that. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 19:37, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

It shouldn't be "chan", because I'm a licensed /b/tard and the suffix "chan" gives me bad mental images. - 2-16 16:36, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

I wonder, how is it pronounced? Is it Wee-kee-pe or perhaps more like wee kee pee?Nefzen 21:16, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

"Ooh-e-ki-pay tan".Viewer 03:32, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

That's difficult to pronounce. wee kee pa ee -tan? (if I haven't misinterpreted it)Nefzen 09:36, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Or weekeepehtan. Just like you say Wikipedia (Audio (U.S.)^ⓘ), but exchange the "eedia" with "ehtan".--GunnarRene 10:15, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Still doesn't sound quite right... "wikipitan". What about Wiki-tan? Nefzen 13:48, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

I imagine the creator of the character called her Wikipe-tan (which I personally like) and we should respect that. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 14:42, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

I think Futaba Channel suggested "wikipe-tan", pronounced "wikipeh-tan", but nothing wrong with "wikipii-tan" too. Shii (tock) formerly Ashibaka 20:55, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Her name is written in katakana in Japaneese Wikipedia, and it's wikipeh-tan. L-Zwei 05:21, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Plus, I believe this is an homage to the OS-tans, so that is why he probably was told to use that name. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 05:24, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm not saying anything about the "tan", just the "Wikipe". meh. Nefzen 07:49, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

As in "We key pee tan", or "wick up a tan"? - Two-Sixteen.11.222.21 12:37, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

As in the kana spelling, ウィキペたん, Ui-ki-pe-ta-n, said "Wee kee pa tan". However, since the word is derived from Wikipedia and "pa" does not reflect the pronunciation of the original English but rather the Japanese approximation, "Wee kee pee tan" may actually be more accurate. --tjstrf talk 09:46, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Just a minor quibble: ウィキペたん is romanized "Uikipetan" (not "pa"). The closest pronunciation in English would be "Wee-kee-peh-tahn". (^_^) ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 21:46, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Cosplay

Wow, already a cosplay! That's incredibly fast I believe. Nefzen 07:50, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Just a thought...

The loli version of Wikipe-tan is nice, but could you make more versions of her as an adult? If you are wondering why, umm... no reason. --Insineratehymn^{(talk • contribs)} 04:26, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

I think this has been debated already, see above.

• On other hand, I which to see more of other fauna like Commons-tan and Quote-tan. L-Zwei 13:47, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

I think that would be a bit troublesome... a tan for each one? Quote-tan?
I think Wikipe-tan stands for all Wikipidian-ish projects. Either that or they have some headquarters :D

Well, commons-tan and Quote-tan already appear and I found they're interesting ^_^ . Mainly because they made it look like Wikipe-tan has some background story. L-Zwei 05:52, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Why hasn't this been deleted as cruft?

Because it really, really is. Jtrainor 12:28, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Look at the title of the page. There's your answer. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 12:40, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

To be a little more explanative, this is a project page, not an article. If you really feel this should be deleted, you are welcome to take it to WP:MFD. I suspect you will not find the outcome you want, but I could be surprised. - TexasAndroid 14:24, 16 May 2007 (UTC)