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Leo Frank (accused or convicted?)[edit]

Leo Frank was indicted for murdering Mary Phagan by a grand jury with 4 Jewish members on May 24, 1913, and he was convicted of this crime on August 26, 1913. The ADL was founded in October 1913, after Leo Frank was convicted. Two years of appeals upheld the conviction of LF.Carmelmount (talk) 18:11, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Frank's death sentence was commuted ostensibly due to doubts about whether there had been a miscarriage of justice. But he was not pardoned - the death sentence was replaced with a life sentence. The fact that Governor Slaton was a law partner of Frank's lead defense counsel should be mentioned - that was an obvious conflict of interest that was hugely controversial at the time.203.184.41.226 (talk) 05:31, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Frank Zappa[edit]

I added the section about Frank Zappa's criticism's in response to the ADL's criticisms, but do not know how to include the reference. The text was taken from an interview on the Dick Cavett show, which interview can be found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeUe5-HcsT0&feature=BFa&list=PL72D331EA8815F799&lf=results_video. If someone could tell me how to cite that reference, or simply do it themselves, that would be great. — Preceding unsigned comment added by William Rehtworc (talkcontribs) 03:09, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I've removed the insertion for several reasons:
  1. Youtube is not a reliable source
  2. A television interview is a primary source
  3. 40-year-old opinion from a rock musician about a song of his is basically trivia, and WP:UNDUE weight here.

IT IS ONLY TRIVIA WHEN ZAPPA SAYS IT ifi t was Foxman it would be a founded criticism of antisemitic lyrics DON"T YOU THINK. and by the way explain me why Youtube is not a reliable source? 77.113.26.24 (talk) 19:06, 4 February 2014 (UTC)shemyaza banned as ever


If this issue has any significance at all, the reliable secondary sources will have written of it. If you wish to add this material, please find those sources. Jayjg (talk) 13:12, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
  • Random Secondary Source about the criticisms, though without the famous quote, from People 1979: http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20073692,00.html and for the quote the zappa article has cited the following: [145 ^] Peterson, Chris (November 1979), He's Only 38 and He Knows How to Nasty, Relix Magazine. That article also sources a biography for the claims by the ADL as [138 ^ a b] Miles, 2004, Frank Zappa, p. 234. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.58.126.1 (talk) 23:47, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

RfC[edit]

BulbBAn RfC: Which descriptor, if any, can be added in front of Southern Poverty Law Center when referenced in other articles? has been posted at the Southern Poverty Law Center talk page. Your participation is welcomed. – MrX 16:21, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

ADL, Apartheid, Harassment of Arabs, Shift to Right[edit]

"How the Anti Defamation League spied on Americans for apartheid S.Africa, harassed Arab-Americans & moved far right"

http://www.psmag.com/navigation/politics-and-law/kings-garbage-76228/

AntiqueReader (talk) 23:59, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Youtube hence not usable edit summaries[edit]

this revert, Blankfort, 'Panel 1 What is the Israel Lobby and How Does It Work?,' 48:28-68:08 minutes.

This is a detailed talk given by Jeffrey Blankfort, addressing the ADL’s behaviour in one specific incident.

The lecture was delivered in the Panel 1 What is the Israel Lobby and How Does It Work? Conference at the National Press Club in Washington on April 10, 2015 hosted by WRMEA. WRMEA then mounted it on Youtube, since it was not expected to be covered by the mainstream US press. The reverts by Debresser and Plot Spoiler justify themselves by asserting Youtube is not a reliable source. That is a false edit summary.

Wikipedia:Reliable source examples

YouTube: YouTube and other video-sharing sites are generally not considered reliable sources because anyone can create or manipulate a video clip and upload without editorial oversight, just as with a self-published website. However, official channels of notable organisations, such as Monty Python's channel, may be acceptable as primary sources if their authenticity can be confirmed, or as a secondary source if they can be trace to a reliable publisher. Videos may also be used as a convenience link for material originally published elsewhere. In all cases, care should be undertaken to ensure that the video is genuinely authorised by the copyright holder. Be careful not to link to material that is a copyright violation. In general, unless the video is not clearly marked as "official" with a name strongly identified with the notable publisher or source, best practice is to treat it as a copyright violation and not use it.

I'd appreciate some discussion of this. Nishidani (talk) 10:48, 27 April 2015 (UTC)