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Deletion discussion about Malcolm L. McCallum[edit]

Hello, Herpetology2,

I wanted to let you know that there's a discussion about whether Malcolm L. McCallum should be deleted. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Malcolm L. McCallum .

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Thanks, Deunanknute (talk) 04:55, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Moved Page[edit]

I moved your page Herpetological_Conservation_and_BIology to Draft:Herpetological_Conservation_and_Biology. This way you can work on it without others editing tagging it. Also, please make sure to check capitalization, especially in article titles. Deunanknute (talk) 00:51, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Removing AfD template[edit]

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original research and Malcolm L. McCallum[edit]

Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. Your article Malcolm L. McCallum, while an interesting read, resembles more a piece of journalism than a fair and neutral article for Wikipedia's purpose. It appears to be building a narrative based mainly on primary or affiliated sources and synthesizing new conclusions not stated in sources, which is a violation of Wikipedia's policy of No original research. Please see also policies on Biographies of living persons, Neutral point of view, and Verifiability. I removed some of your most obvious original research (i.e. material sourced to your own communication with McCallum), but more exists in subtler form, such as "McCallum demonstrated a high degree of productivity as a doctoral student...". Since the only reference backing this up is McCallum's Google Scholar page, this means you are claiming his productivity is high and noteworthy, which, even if I agree, must be explicitly stated by reliable sources. Similarly, unsubstantiated commentary like "the foremost expert on Arkansas herpetology" has no place unless you can cite reliable sources that state the same. Furthermore, in the interest of balance, and neutrality you must cite opposing views such as Ficetola's commentary, not swamp them with McCallum's view. Negative content is just as appropriate as positive content, in the aims of "representing fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without bias, all of the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic." (WP:NPOV)

While I bear no ill will to the subject of the article, the tone of the article appears heavily like current article reads like a tribute to McCallum, going into intricate undue detail of mundane things that are either not explicitly stated in sources, only supported by McCallum's own papers, otherwise not noteworthy, or possibly your own interpretations. The best way to achieve neutrality is to rely more heavily on independent, secondary sources like newspaper and magazines articles. If those sources give very little discussion to the back story of every study, then probably neither should the Wikipedia article.

If you have additional questions, see the resources at the top of your talk page, or ask me on mine. Wikipedia has a lot of guidelines, policies, rules, and conventions, and there can be a learning curve to writing encyclopedic articles (see also WP:ISNOT), but the policies I mentioned above are the most important (they are in fact the Core content policies). I do not mean to criticize your intentions or belittle your contributions, but simply inform you of how articles, especially of living people, need to be constructed. Cheers, --Animalparty-- (talk) 21:12, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

response to above[edit]

questions for you..
1) "..resembles more a piece of journalism than a fair and neutral article for Wikipedia's purpose." "It appears to be building a narrative based mainly on primary or affiliated sources and synthesizing new conclusions not stated in sources"
response: working on this problem. citations exist, but accumulating them is not completely easy as webpages and sources change or become unavailable. I have some partial citations that I am attempting to obtain full corrections for.

2) "I removed some of your most obvious original research (i.e. material sourced to your own communication with McCallum), but more exists in subtler form, such as "McCallum demonstrated a high degree of productivity as a doctoral student...". Since the only reference backing this up is McCallum's Google Scholar page, this means you are claiming his productivity is high and noteworthy, which, even if I agree, must be explicitly stated by reliable sources"
Response: I need to link the refernce that is already listed (citation ratings of herpetologists).

3) "Similarly, unsubstantiated commentary like "the foremost expert on Arkansas herpetology" has no place unless you can cite reliable sources that state the same."
response: He is the author of Amphbians and Reptiles of Arkansas, and has the most publications on arkansas herpetology in in history. I'ld say that is pretty much a slam dunk? So, do I just reword it to state this? Normally, the foremost authority in a field has the most and most important publications, and he has both? IN fact, #2 is not even a close second. I believe citing A&R of Ark is actually where the source is in the chap where it goes over Arkansas Herpetology.

  • You could state something like "has published widely on Arkansas herpetology", which would be more neutral and consistent with facts, and less likely to be challenged than superlatives like "foremost" (which may also be "peacock terms"). We as editors cannot infer things that have not been explicitly stated, no matter how obvious or how much personal knowledge we have: on Wikipedia that is orginal synthesis, i.e. combining multiple sources to reach a conclusion not stated in any individual source. --Animalparty-- (talk) 06:38, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

4) Furthermore, in the interest of balance, and neutrality you must cite opposing views such as Ficetola's commentary, not swamp them with McCallum's view. Negative content is just as appropriate as positive content, in the aims of "representing fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without bias, all of the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic."
response: Yes, I need to add in Ficetola's paper as a reference, and McCallum's response to it that was published as well. Ficetola makes claims that are based on poor understanding of the tools used, not based on reality. it was poorly peer reviewed! but that is my opinion!  :) I'll get that stuff straitened out. I started with this individual, and intend to add more prominent herpetologists. But, I have a day job, so its been a little slow going this week!

  • I understand that! Keep these points in mind when revising or creating new articles. Keep also in mind WP:UNDUE, which means that not every thing published needs inclusion, even if verifiable. The secondary sources listed here would be ideal candidates for sources, much better than any CV or primary sources for providing context and balance. Cheers! --Animalparty-- (talk) 06:38, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. In case you want to review or retrieve any information I removed for rewrites, you can always review the Page History.
P.P.S. I slightly reformatted your responses for visual clarity and to nest with the previous paragraphs. For future reference you can indent by typing a colon at the beginning of a line, or make an indented bullet point by typing an asterisk. --Animalparty-- (talk) 06:38, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!!! I actualy appreciate the edits. Most of yours will remain. I need to cull some of the current story anyway because sometimes things look better with less.  :) Then its on to another herpetologist! Thanks again for your help.

No problem. You might also want to check out Help:Referencing for beginners for tips on formatting references. For journals and or books I like to use Wikipedia:RefToolbar to automatically fill in info for a citation template (entering a doi or an ISBN autofills the fields), but again, primary sources (e.g. journal articles) written by the subject should be given less weight than secondary sources about the subject, per policy, as discussed in Primary, secondary and tertiary sources. Cheers. --Animalparty-- (talk) 20:50, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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File permission problem with File:Participants at first organizational meetin of HCB get first view of the website and cover (left to right, Stan Trauth, Bruce Bury, Malcolm McCallum, Roger Luckenbach, Phil Medica, Ray Saumure, Dave Germano, and at computer Gwen Bury).jpeg[edit]

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Uploading media[edit]

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Hi. I'm not sure I understand your concern. The URL for the Wikipedia page (i.e. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herpetological_Conservation_and_Biology) has to use underscores. Spaces are not permitted in URLs; this is a fundamental technological limitation for any website. Within Wikipedia, spaces are permitted in article titles, and articles can be linked with either spaces or underscores (e.g. both Herpetological_Conservation_and_Biology and Herpetological Conservation and Biology take you to the article).

As far as it showing up on Google, I'm getting the Wikipedia page as the 6th Google hit when searching for "Herpetological Conservation and Biology" and the 4th hit for "Herpetological_Conservation_and_Biology". Newly created Wikipedia pages don't show up on Google immediately, so it may be that Google has indexed the Wikipedia article since you last tried to search for it. The ranking for the Wikipedia article on Google is likely to go up over time, as more people access the page here.

If I'm misunderstanding your concern with the underscores, let me know, and I'll try to answer. Plantdrew (talk) 20:42, 1 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

More resources for biographical articles.[edit]

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Also, just in the event it may be applicable, do not create articles about yourself or your colleagues. That represents a major conflict of interest and hinders the goal of neutral, proportional coverage. You continue to pad articles with primary papers, unverified statements, and little to no secondary sources. If there are objective news, books, or magazine articles that cover someone's research, summarize and cite those views proportionally. See for instance how few of Cope's papers are cited in Edward Drinker Cope. Per policy: Wikipedia articles usually rely on material from reliable secondary sources. Articles may make an analytic or evaluative claim only if that has been published by a reliable secondary source. You may be used to the academic notion of focusing primarily on primary literature, but that is for novel ideas and synthesis, or arguing an opinion, none of which belong on Wikipedia. --Animalparty-- (talk) 01:07, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, I had citations in there as place markers for things I had to put in. Herpetology is my hobby, and I wanted to contribute something to it on wikipedia! :) (herpetology2)

Try this exercise before you add any new content or create any new articles: if you think a fact is noteworthy, look for third-party, unaffiliated source that say so. If you get the impression that someone is an expert in a field because they have been quoted in a report or have several citations, check for third party sources that say that, otherwise, don't say it. Otherwise we risk creating skewed or even false reputations of people, or minimizing their more widely recognized contributions while unduly highlighting some minor fact. Don't assume anything! Don't assume anything! Everything you write must be verifiable (Check your facts!). Small errors or large errors, subtle bias or large bias, can have real effects on the careers and personal lives of the subjects, which is why the Biographies of living persons policy is so important. See also Writing better articles for tips on refining articles. I would strongly recommend taking the time to assemble sources and improve the articles you've started before creating more. Cheers! --Animalparty-- (talk) 04:12, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Assume everything on the internet or on TV is copyrighted unless stated otherwise. Also, File:Stan Trauth holding a Collard Lizard in th Ozarks.jpg (which is actually a horned lizard!) appears to be taken directly from his Trauth's website. similarly File:Bruce Bury.png is taken directly from Bury's page. If you did not take the original photographs, you cannot claim to be the copyright holder, and thus posting on Wikipedia may be copyright violations. --Animalparty-- (talk) 07:20, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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A page you started (Joseph T. Collins) has been reviewed![edit]

Thanks for creating Joseph T. Collins, Herpetology2!

Wikipedia editor Animalparty just reviewed your page, and wrote this note for you:

Like other biography articles you've created, this one should up ease up on primary sources (interviews or Collins' own works) as well as praise from close friends. Let objective, impartial sources describe the man's notability!

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Joe Collins article[edit]

I too want to thank you for writing the WP article about Joseph T. Collins.

There are still several important herpetologists who don't have articles. Perhaps you'd like to write one about Carl Gans, Kraig Adler, or George Zug, to name a few. One of these days I plan to start one about Neil D. Richmond.

Keep up the good work! Lyttle-Wight (talk) 00:57, 16 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks, I do plan to add them in. I actually started to do Adler one the other day, but got distracted by other things.  :) The rules on Wikipedia are kind of "difficult" because they define some things different from reality (just because you author a paper does not make it self-publishing for example, and scientific articles are unique in that they fall both as primary and secondary sources depending on their nature. So, its tough! The editors try to help, but sometimes its hard to deal with them because they are deleting stuff in the middle of your editing. Further, there is obvious non-consensus among editors because I had a chain of edits by different people that literally formed a rosenkreist of sorts! ;) Thanks again for the input! Even some of them that had pages already are pretty sparse.

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COI Notice[edit]

Have you reviewed the Wikipedia policies on Conflict of Interest editing? Please do so. Basically, you're prohibited from editing articles that you have a direct pecuniary interest in, or which involve or are about people you may know or be connected to personally in any way that might prevent you from being neutral--or might reasonably cause anyone else to think that you might not be neutral. In other words, generally:

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Note that nothing in this rule requires anyone to actually identify themselves, and nobody is asked to, however it does require common sense and restraint from editing in some subject areas.

Your contributions are remarkably promotional in tone and frequently of only trivial interest [1], [2], ("obliterated their arguments") [3]. Also, you have said that you communicate with some of these article subjects by text message [4] which is enough in itself to warrant your recusing yourself from this area.

As a fellow editor (non-admin) I must ask that you refute my accusations convincingly (I don't see how) or voluntarily refrain from any further edits related to Malcolm L. McCallum and the articles of associated herpetologists, journals, and herpetological organizations where you appear to have a COI. Geogene (talk) 23:13, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Herpetology2: I see that you are reverting most of Geogene's edits to Malcolm L. MacCallum - can you clarify what you mean in this edit summary? Where/when was this information "approved by administrators?" Also, please avoid labeling edit's like @Geogene:'s as "vandalism" - he was clearly just trying to improve the article and make sure that it was consistent with wikipedia's guidelines. Even if you disagree with his actions, it's very important to assume good faith. Fyddlestix (talk) 13:35, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Deletion pending for File:Malcolm with rooster.jpg[edit]

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This was taken care of months ago when teh owner of the photo donated it to the wiki commons. I have a series of emails indicating this. Could removal of the tag have been missed? Permission was sent Feb 8, 2015 by Malcolm McCallum who donated the photo. Permission was confirmed by Wikipedia on May 10, 2015 to Malcolm McCallum who forwarded it to me. However, the person doing this for wikipedia indicated they were exhausted from aswering emails. So, maybe they forgot to remove the tag. I contacted the owner and asked him to resubmit the the permissions statement and he indicated that he responded to the wikipedia permissions email this morning and confirmed the dates of the previous exchanges. Herpetology2 (talk) 17:32, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia[edit]

I want to follow up on the discussion that started at COIN. Bottom lines:

  • We really value subject matter experts in Wikipedia.
  • Experts face challenges when they come to edit Wikipedia. Working here is not like anything else you have done in your life. Everyone is equal, and there is a labyrinth of policies and guidelines (PAG) that govern what we write, how we write it, and how we treat each other. Almost every new editor has a learning curve to understanding the spirit and letter of PAG and the norms here. That learning curve can sometimes be steeper for experts, as they have a hard time acknowledging that they are not expert in how Wikipedia works. (Please do read our essay to help experts get oriented: WP:EXPERT)
  • You have extensive and thoughtful feedback from four experienced editors at COIN and more elsewhere -- all volunteers who took time out of their lives to try to help you. So far you have ignored all of us, which is just... sad.
  • You have nothing to lose, and everything to gain, from recognizing that you are a "newbie", and learning how this place works from other, more experienced editors. To the extent that you want to stick around (and I hope you do), you have a lot to lose, by being defensive and refusing to acknowledge that you have a lot to learn.

So...are you willing to learn or not? Please reply here - I am watching this page. Jytdog (talk) 22:29, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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