User talk:EdJohnston

Warning Notes

That is ok. The topic ban on Nulla Taciti seemed a bit too mild though, considering the user's personal attacks against me on AN/EW ([1]). I do not remember ever interacting with them in the past before their edit-warring and removal of links to Wahhabism, so their comments makes no sense. Also, reporting a user for an obvious violation of WP rules does not equate with harassing a user, it was only an attempt from me to protect the article Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant from disruption. Thank you, anyways. Khestwol (talk) 03:15, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

It looks like this is now resolved per WP:Administrators' noticeboard/3RRArchive278#User:Nulla Taciti reported by User:Khestwol (Result: Restriction for one week). EdJohnston (talk) 14:34, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Hello EdJohnston. Nulla Taciti is back now from the topic-ban you issued him. And it looks just as he came, he is yet again removing any sourced link to Wahhabism that he finds from multiple articles ([2], [3]). This is the exact reason he was banned for! This time he is reverting other users for it, but is still attacking me personally ([4]). Could you, again, please help protect articles related to Wahhabism from the POV he pushes and his disruptive edits? Thank you! Khestwol (talk) 21:11, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Notability

The band in question did chart in Germany, but I was unable to find any specific charts. Please don't encourage CrazyAces' bad behavior, I know you are a smart user. He/she is only doing this as revenge and it's wrong. TheGracefulSlick ( talk) 15:53, 21 April 2015

You asked for editing in non Bohra areas

Dear EdJohnston you asked that I edit other areas of wikipedia. That has been done over the last few weeks. Please see my history.Noughtnotout (talk) 11:52, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Can you let me know what you would consider to be reliable evidence that one party or the other had won the Dawoodi Bohra succession? EdJohnston (talk) 14:31, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Hello Ed. You have asked a tough question which I have been thinking over and over but I fear there is no outright answer. How do we define a 'winner'? The winner has to be the one upon whom Nass (Islam) was conferred. But that is exactly where the same reliable facts are seen by different parties in different ways.

Nass is the cornerstone of Shi'a belief. It requires every predecessor to appoint his successor before dying.

The 51st Da'i al Mutlaq, Taher Saifuddin wrote a treatise on the entire concept of nass with examples of how it was conferred from the time of Muhammed himself through to his day. And it is from that first instance of Nass (Islam) that the differences emerge. Evidence is acknowledged by both Sunni and Shi'a of Muhammed's high regard for Ali and its reliablity is not disputed, the historical fact is that the Sunni have not interpreted this as Nass (Islam) and instead upheld an electoral process that took place to nominate Muhammed's successor after he had died.

A precedent with similarity to that being witnessed today is the one that lead to the naming of the Bohra as 'Dawoodi'. The incumbent Dawood bin Qutubshah was challenged by Sulayman bin Hassan. This challenge was taken to the court of the Mughal Emperor Akbar. Whether as an outcome of Akbar's decree or otherwise - Dawood bin Qutubshah remained 'Syedna' to the majority which became what we know to day as the Dawoodi Bohra while another faction still exists known as the Sulaymani Bohra - mainly in The Yemen. To my knowledge the evidence of nass that Sulayman proffered was a signed, written document - the authenticity of which was disputed.

In the present dispute it seems again that it is not the existence of evidence that is in question but its authenticity or its meaning. From the Saifuddin side there is a video, relayed live and to all Bohras around the world, showing Muhammed Burhanuddin in an apparent direct conferral of nass in Mumbai. However Qutbuddin refutes both this - as Nass (Islam) - as well as another video taken on a mobile device of Muhammed Burhanuddin apparently conferring nass for the first time publicly whilst in his hospital bed in London after suffering quite a severe stroke. (This took place in the same month as the worldwide relay but a few days prior). Qutbuddin and his followers contend that neither of these demonstrates an explicit nass and suggest that both are, to some degree at least, being stage managed and without Muhammed Burhanuddin's consent.

Additionally Saifuddin has shown in public written diary entries said to be signed by Muhammed Burhanuddin and witnesses designating him as his successor. Their authenticity is questioned by Qutbuddin and the signatories are no longer alive. The witnesses of Burhanuddin's privately spoken nass (those that took place before the public ones and spoken of after his death) are the brothers of Saifuddin and so their word is refuted on the basis of nepotism.

From Qutbuddin's side the evidence is the claim that he was privately given nass by Muhammed Burhanuddin some five decades ago when he says he was also instructed not to reveal it until Burhanuddin's death. He cites as precedent of the 7th Da'i al Mutlaq who is said to have pronounced nass in private to his successor without any witnesses. There is no report that the validity of that nass was disputed although interpretations of the texts about this nass are again different. Since it happened many centuries ago and written record is sparse it is probably going to remain a matter of contention even for scholars.

Qutbuddin gives examples of what he says are 'esoteric' nass - words, actions or instances - that he says constitute an 'inferral' of nass and carry equal weight. eg 'the beloved son الولد الاحب ' address by Burhanuddin which he says is resevered for a spiritual 'son' and successor. His side also highlights his position as Mazoon for 50 years, the second highest rank in the mission and is a mantle they claim indicates that he is beyond reproach. ie that he would never claim something unless it was true. It should be noted that not all successors have been Mazoons and not all Mazoons have become Da'i al Mutlaq.

This and no doubt a great deal of other arguments are what the Bombay High Court are going to try and adjudicate on. As I am hoping that I have shown, any adjudication is unlikely to result in a significant change of heart of the followers of the 2 sides. Even if the court declares a 'winner' almost certainly the process will continue with appeals from the 'losing' side and in India this could be extremely protracted. In the meantime the two groups will most likely continue to follow their 'Syedna' as was the case with the Sulaymani/Dawoodi Bohras and then later the Alavi/Dawoodi Bohras.

The situation on the ground at this time is that Qutbuddin sought interim relief preventing Saifuddin from administering the community's affairs. This was not granted by the Bombay High Court. Separately the UK Charities Commission continues to name Saifuddin as the Sole Trustee in accordance with the UK Dawat Hadiyah Act which recogizes the authority of the Da'i al Mutlaq. A similar situation is found in North America. Saifuddin is administering the waqf properties of the Dawoodi Bohra such as mosques, madrasahs, schools and other educational institutes and mausoleums. He has taken the oath of allegiance from all the community members who volunteered it to him. There is no report of any jamaat body (local adminsitrative bodies in towns and cities where Bohras reside) taking any stand opposing his succession.

It is this administration right over the mission and its assets that the Court ruling will affect but not necessarily the allegiance of the followers.

Has this answered your question? If not then I'd be happy to try again.Noughtnotout (talk) 22:47, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

References

'Syedna' Mufaddal Saifuddin elected Chancellor of Aligarh University.

Court case media reports, Siblings do not openly support Qutbuddin, allegiances unaffected by case, 'nass' conferred in secret in 1965. 'Beloved son' means successor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noughtnotout (talk • contribs) 13:24, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

This is interesting but I don't see it as evidence that either party has won the succession. But if the court reached a definite conclusion that would be worthy of notice. EdJohnston (talk) 00:20, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Yes you could say the court case can declare the victor but Wikipedia articles should not really wait for an outcome and in the meantime have so many inaccuracies. I would be happy to run things by you if you want to see and make changes yourself - frankly almost all the current Bohra articles are poorly sourced, inaccurate inferences are given and a lot is just plain innuendo or POV.Noughtnotout (talk) 12:04, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

It's not advisable for me to get into a discussion of content here. Admins don't rule on content. The instructions for how you can appeal your ban are in Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions#Appeals and modifications. EdJohnston (talk) 15:52, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

The appeal process is highly complex - unless of-course that is what you want, that I don't understand and therefore can't appeal and stop being a nuisance to you? So what about the integrity of the Wikipeadia entries? Its quite remarkable to me that its perfectly permissible to write in Taher Saifuddin that "He was made honorary chancellor of this university, which had only few Bohra students, in 1953, after a series of strategic donations " without giving any sources. Even more unfathomable is how the section 'Criticisms' which comes immediately below that has an entire paragraph on reformists' allegations of claiming to be a god allegations which, in the very next paragraph, are said to be not supported by Court records. This is ok?

Yet for me to reference that every Indian national newspaper, the Indian Prime Minister and several other heads of state plus a leading university and the UK Charities Commission (all state level bodies) have all 'acknowledged' (not 'declared a winner') Mufaddal Saifuddin by referring to him as incumbent or Syedna is grounds to be banned?

The appeals page states quite clearly to first speak to the person who imposed the ban - that was yourself. I should point out there was no warning given, not by you. The warning I did get was not related to the ban that was imposed and was given barely an hour or so before this ban by someone else. This is not soap-boxing, it is relating the facts on the ground so that a reader of Wikipeadia is not misinformed. I'm really disappointed that you are showing no real interest in reviewing the decision given what you said to be about the model of Wikipaedia. Even after all that I have written and espcially after I have shown my intent of avoiding similar mistakes. Several allegations were made such as sock-puppetry all of which should now have been shown to be untrue and certainly no grounds have been shown as to why that was thought in the first place.

Honestly Ed, why did you ask my 'opinion' if you do not even think me worthy of editing?Noughtnotout (talk) 10:53, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Need an experienced user's opinion

This article (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Peanut Butter Conspiracy Is Spreading) is being considered for deletion. It is about a nationally charting album and we need a well-placed opinion. TheGracefulSlick ( talk) 13:48, 25 April 2015

OhC AE

Hi Ed. Once again, User:Lowercase sigmabot III has archived the Ohconfucius AE discussion, even though the case hasn't been resolved. TheSoundAndTheFury (talk) 22:20, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

I was coming here to say the same. And also to note that I responded to your question here. Let me know if there's anything else.

p.s., I hope some action is taken to permanently delete that essay, an archive of which OhConfucius is still promoting on his user page. I'm not upset about it personally, but it doesn't seem right that someone should be able to accuse other editors of being SPAs and sockpuppets with impunity, especially on a subject where they have a history of sanctions against them. This is pretty clearly a violation of Wikipedia's conduct policies against personal attacks, IMO.TheBlueCanoe 13:17, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi, the unresolved AE discussion still hasn't been restored from the archive. I'm hesitating to do this as a non-admin, but if you feel it's appropriate, I'll go forward with it. TheSoundAndTheFury (talk) 21:17, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Edit Warring

I have left a comment on the edit warring noticeboard about my warning about edit warring. Please commentRobynthehode (talk) 06:42, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

What????

So you are saying i should stop editing??? WHATTT! . why im editing perfectly fine I'm doing you all a favor cant you see im ordering the information Coolidon (talk) 18:45, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

If your edits are perfectly fine, then you shouldn't mind responding to the complaint about you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Huge number of edits with no summaries. EdJohnston (talk) 18:48, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

how do you respond?

how i dont know how Coolidon (talk) 18:59, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

If you agree here to stop editing articles I'll post your response at WP:ANI. EdJohnston (talk) 19:00, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

so your flipping me

do you mean i cant edit anymore why i use reliable sources to my edits???? Coolidon (talk) 19:02, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Even handed

Thanks your comment re my warning of 3RR. Perhaps I hadn't made my point clear. My point re your (and other) admins decision was that the decision you made is not even handed. I have been reprimanded in the same manner as the other editor despite the fact that he has a history of rule breaking and he was abusive. This is not an even handed decision clearly. I expected him to be banned for say one month (despite his apology, which I accept but which I think is too easy. Words are cheap, actions are what counts and his past actions speak volumes including his attitude re editing that he expressed to me) so he can reflect on his totally unacceptable behaviour. I will not be happy unless something more is done about this editorRobynthehode (talk) 22:10, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Feel free to ask for further action at WP:ANI. If you had not broken 3RR yourself you would be in a stronger position to ask for sanctions. AN3 is primarily a board for prevention of edit wars. As you have noted, he did apologize. If he continues with this kind of behavior it is unlikely it will go unnoticed by admins. Any repeat of his actions will probably get a vigorous response. EdJohnston (talk) 22:17, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. Would have been good to post it on my talk page as well. Your suggestion that because I broke the 3RR rule undermines my position to ask for sanctions is nonsense. My breaking 3RR has nothing to do with the behaviour of another editor. I broke the 3RR rule, if there are sanctions against me so be it - namely the warning this time. The other editor has repeatedly broken Wikipedia rules and guidelines and yet it seems they have not been proportionately sanctioned for there rule breaking. If you can't be even handed then it undermines Wikipedia.Robynthehode (talk) 19:57, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

The claim that there will be a "vigorous response" is completely false. BMK has repeatedly abused editors, made personal attacks, and in this case, gone way beyond what is acceptable, yet you just credited this as a simple edit war and then told Robynthebode that they would have a better case if they hadn't edit warred. That's totally incorrect. Personal attacks are entirely independent of edit warring and should be treated as such. BMK has a recent history of going full tilt and swearing and abusing editors. The fact that this kind of behaviour has been discussed at the edit warring noticeboard that you dealt with is indicative that it is being glossed over. It's very easy to apologise once threatened with being blocked, but a quick check will reveal that BMK has abused a number of different editors in this very same way. You are sanctioning it with your inaction. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:19, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

AE revisited

You and I had clearly advised Xtremedood not to engage in any edit war concerning Indo-Pakistani War of 1971.[5] However, previously the figure was "8,000" for Indian losses,[6] now it is again "8,000" for Indian and now it is also "3,000" for Pakistani losses.[7]

I wouldn't mind if you would take some time. Other edits such as [8],[9] are also concerning. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 11:28, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Admins can't decide who is right about the number of casualties. This is a content dispute. Consider opening an WP:RFC or using other methods of WP:Dispute resolution. EdJohnston (talk) 13:36, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

That's correct. I believe that different resolutions should be tried before I would come back here. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 13:49, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Resuming ew

Hi, FYI, immediately after one week block expired, user BosnaSRB RS (talk · contribs) went back to Tvrtko I of Bosnia with this, as if nothing happened. Cheers - DVdm (talk) 06:31, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Editor is now blocked. EdJohnston (talk) 21:48, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Users: DVdm, Surtsicna clear case of an agenda account

Collapse a lengthy comment by editor who is now blocked. EdJohnston (talk) 15:58, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
LOOK AT THIS clear case of vandalism BLOCK THIS AGENDA ACCAOUNT - DVdm Surtsicna I have irrefutable facts RELIGION: TVRTKO I OF BOSNIA Titles In 1377, he signed himself "King of Serbs, Bosnia, the Maritime and the Western Parts" King of Serbs, Bosnia, the Martitime and West Parts - Wiki Magyar könyvszemle (Published 1897), PAGE 163 "Stefanus Tvrtko dei gratia rex Serblorum, Bosnae Maritmaeque" look at my sources 1. Mavro Orbini Il regno de gli Slavi, hoggi correttamente detti schiavoni; page 358 Mavro Orbini says that Tvrtko crowned in Orthodox monastery Mileševa. Metropolitan monastery Mileševa crowned Tvrtko. Tvrtko is a Orthodox Christian. 2. Željko Fajfrić Željko Fajfrić(2000). Kotromanici tekst/text "To je ohrabrilo Tvrtka da se u Mileševu, na grobu Svetog Save kruniše za kralja (26. oktobar 1377.). Osim kraljevske titule uzeo je i ime Stefan (Stefan Tvrtko I)" translate "It encouraged the Tvrtko to be in Mileševo, at the tomb of Saint Sava crowned king (October 26th 1377). Besides the royal title and took the name Stefan (Stefan Tvrtko I)" Tvrtko is a Orthodox Christian. 3. Vladimir Ćorović and other relevant historians ______________ First In the Charter of 1382, Tvrtko says that he follows the faith of our first parents, Messrs Serbian. Which means that he was an Orthodox Christian. Academy of Sciences and Arts of the Republika Srpska Academy of Sciences and Arts of the Republika Srpska, page 73 Second Holy Archdeacon Stefan - Slava of King Tvrtko Kotromanića. link: http://www.spc.rs/sr/vesti_iz_eparhije_budimljanskonikshitshke_6 spc.rs - The Serbian Orthodox Church 3rd To be crowned a king in the Orthodox Church, he must be an Orthodox Christian. Tvrtko is a Orthodox Christian.

Questions

A few days ago you placed a comment on my talk page under the title "Result of the edit warring complaint about you and Robynthehode". Because, for various reasons, I like to have comment titles on my talk page be as short as possible, I changed this to "Result of the EWN complaint about you and Robynthehode". Since an uninvolved third party has objected to this, my two questions to you are:

• Do you, personally, object to this change? If so, I'll change it back.
• In general, do you think changing the title of a comment - not the comment itslef - is a legitimate change, as long as the alteration is basically innocuous?

I wouldn't, of course (and don't) change the actual content of messages left on my talk page (oh, I sometimes add a wikilink if it would be helpful in conducting the discussion) - I either leave them as is, or I delete them, and I think you know that I'm not shy about doing the latter. However in my opinion, the title is not the same as the comment itself, and I'll frequently shorten them, or add a wikilink, or make other alterations which generally leave the meaning, but conform me to how I want my talk page to look. I've done this because, in my opinion, it's simply part and parcel of maintaining my talk page, but I'm curious to know if you think it oversteps the bounds of what is allowed. If so, then I'll have to consider simply deleting any comment whose title I don't find appropriate for the format of my page, even if the comment itself might be perfectly acceptable -- and that seems rather silly to me.

Any thoughts? BMK (talk) 20:52, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

FYI, I just went through the various guidelines on user pages and talk pages, and I don't find anything which is on point - some stuff comes close, but nothing actually addresses the issue.

I suppose the underlying question would be is the title part of the comment, or is it a header separate from the comment? I guess I'm taking the position that it's separate from the comment, but I also note that I'm prone to post comments in which the title is a phrase ending in ellipses which is completed in the body of the comment, as in TITLE: "Thank you..." COMMENT: "...for blocking that annoying sock.". In those cases, I'm acting as if the title is an integral part of the comment, and changing the title would effectively be changing the comment. Of course, if someone posted that kind of comment on my talk page, I would leave it alone, although if the title phrase was very long and convoluted, I suppose I'd be tempted to move the title into the comment itself (leaving the ellipses) and renaming it "Comment from XYZ". BMK (talk) 21:20, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

In this case I don't think it matters. EdJohnston (talk) 21:48, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

OK, thanks. BMK (talk) 22:00, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Move-request closure with alt proposal

You closed Talk:National Aquarium in Baltimore#Requested move 27 April 2015 as not-moved, without comment. During the discussion, there was an alternative proposal made by a commenter that multiple later commenters mentioned. Did you find no consensus at all, or any consensus that the current title is correct? Or even a conensus for/against the specific alt proposal? DMacks (talk) 05:20, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

You're right, the alternative proposal has enough support. And it now appears that adding '(Baltimore)' keeps it from being US-centric. So I revised my closure. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 13:16, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! DMacks (talk) 03:10, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Disruptive editing

I would like to a file a complaint against Volunteer Marek for disruptive editing of "Criticism of the Federal Reserve" article. The type of disruptive editing is deletion of material he dislikes. Specifically there has been continual deletion of material, ALL of it from Federal Reserve sources and therefore both reputable and mainstream that Federal Reserve money printing (EASY MONEY POLICIES) caused the inflation that started in the 60's and peaked in the late 70's.

Please notice that according to wiki policies disruptive editing includes repeated deletion of material based on reliable source.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Disruptive_editing#Failure_or_refusal_to_.22get_the_point.22

A disruptive editor is an editor who exhibits tendencies such as the following:

Is tendentious: continues editing an article or group of articles in pursuit of a certain point for an extended time despite opposition from other editors. Tendentious editing does not consist only of adding material; some tendentious editors engage in disruptive deletions as well. An example is repeated deletion of reliable sources posted by other editors.71.184.179.236 (talk) 13:40, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Changes at Criticism of the Federal Reserve need to be supported by editor consensus on the talk page. Material is not kept just because it is sourced, it is kept because it is judged to be relevant and important enough for inclusion. You have some opinions about the Federal Reserve that have trouble getting any support from others. In the event that you ever find backing on the talk page, it will be time to look into this further. EdJohnston (talk) 15:32, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

I would (gently) suggest that you get an account. IMO, it gives your edits more credibility (I know it's not supposed to, but appearances are important. But it is your decision. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:50, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

The inflation of the 70's is described by the source material as the most important monetary event of the second half of the 20th century. The source material are Federal Reserve publications. It is both relevant and important enough to be included in the article.

That inflationary episode has long been considered the second greatest failure of Federal Reserve policies. However, with the recent Great Recession it may be down to #3.71.184.179.236 (talk) 15:35, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

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Discussion on Talk:Malik-Shah I page

Hi, EdJohnston. Could you please share your thoughts about this discussion, Talk:Malik-Shah. I need a neutral user's thought about that discussion. The problem is one group want to delete full name of Malik-Shah, sultan of the Seljuq Empire, from the infobox. If we take a look on pages such as Taizong, Chinese emperor of the Tang dynasty, Tiberius, Roman emperor etc. we can see their infoboxes contain the full names.

Infobox is easy way to explain full name of Medievel Muslim rulers for readers. With it, readers can learn easily what is laqab, kunya, nasab, why they important, what is the difference among them. --Qara Khan 19:50, 05 May 2015 (UTC)

Not easy to tell what you are referring to. What is the real name you want to put in the Infobox, and where is the prior discussion about that? EdJohnston (talk) 19:08, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

I am referring to Encyclopædia Iranica and Cambridge History of Iran volume 5. I have put his real name including his laqab, kunya and nasab but that group wants to delete it from the infobox. --Qara Khan 20:16, 05 May 2015 (UTC)

It looks like you have to persuade the other people at Talk:Malik-Shah I#New section. An opinion expressed there is that the full name is 'unnecessary and useless fluff'. EdJohnston (talk) 19:36, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

You know that i have had many troubles with User:HistoryofIran so i don't think i will could persuade him. The other user, LouisAragon is his friend. Just take a look on their talk pages. They know nothing about titles of Roman emperors, Chinese emperors, Medievel Muslim rulers, therefore they think that full name is unnecessary. --Qara Khan 20:55, 05 May 2015 (UTC)

Anyway, I will try to persuade him. --Qara Khan 21:55, 05 May 2015 (UTC)

Topic bans

Suppose, an editor has been blocked from making an edit to WP:AN, regardless of zero disruption, and another admin comes up to propose a topic ban, ranging ban from all administrator boards(WP:AE, WP:SPI, WP:ANEW, WP:ANI, etc.) and also from seeking any administrative action on their UTPs.

Question is, if an administrator is allowed to propose such a wide ranging topic ban even as unblock condition.OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 15:42, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

You haven't said where this comes from. The 'regardless of zero disruption' suggests you might be skipping over some details important for the answer. I can't answer this without more information. EdJohnston (talk) 16:01, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Well this all happened to me.[10] Just wanted to know if I could get your view about such a topic ban, within the scenario I mentioned above. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 16:15, 8 May 2015 (UTC)