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Wiel Arets

Wiel Arets (Heerlen, 14 mei 1955) is a Dutch architect. He graduated from the TU Eindhoven in 1983. In the following year he started his own firm, Wiel Arets architect & associates, in Heerlen. He prefers simple and abstract compositions. His palet is very sparse and he prefers black and white (including for his own clothes; he usually dresses in black).

His main claim to fame is his design for the Academie voor Beeldende Kunsten in Maastricht; his design for the Universiteitsbibliotheek in Utrecht is also praised. With Jo Coenen he collaborated in the restauration of the glaspaleis in his birthplace Heerlen, and designed a number of pharmacies (?) in the south of the Netherlands. In Hapert he designed a complete Medisch Centrum (Oude Provinciale weg 81/Lindenstraat Hapert). The form language of neo-modernisme is combined with an abstract, placid aesthetic. His favorite building material is the glass brick.

Awards

In 2005, Wiel Arets received the BNA-Kubus, the oldest award for architecture in the Netherlands. The jury appreciated the remarkable quality of his work and praises his extraordinary contribution to architecture. The Kubus is awarded annually since 1965; previous winners include Herman Hertzberger, Wim Quist, Jo Coenen, Jo van den Broek, Benthem Crouwel and Hubert-Jan Henket, and Wessel de Jonge.

Also in 2005 Arets received the Rietveldprijs for his design for the Universiteitsbibliotheek on De Uithof in Utrecht, which came with a check for 7500 euro. The Stichting Rietveldprijs awards the prize every other year to an architect who builds a remarkable building in Utrecht. Past winners include Koen van Velsen, Mart van Schijndel, and Rem Koolhaas.

References

This apparently has something to do with a thread on this page...

Signing so this will be archived. Gracias Drmies for translation. Although the pharmacies issue makes me wonder whether you are really Dutch? ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:33, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

It was about time you had one of these

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Barney Frank lede

Why did you remove this [1], without moving it? Bearian (talk) 21:32, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

My preferred version is along these lines [2] including the New York Times bit and alternative perspectives. The speechwriter bit definitely doesn't belong in the lead. As the other editor has insisted on removing mention of the sections discussing Frank's controversial role in the financial crisis, I don't think it's appropriate to include a very positive assessment from a single (liberal) source. I'm happy to work out a compromise that appropriately reflects the article contents and adheres to Wikipedia guidelines such as wp:lead and avoids advocacy of a particular POV. ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:39, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I missed the "without moving it" part of your comment. That is exacltly what I did previously. But it just gets reverted. If someone wants to add it back to an appropriate section that would be fine. The speechwriter thing is a bit of a stretch, but I'm fairly inslusionist. But as I just get reverted when I've done so it's not worth the bother. The content (sourced) I tried to add to the intro (that's discussed extensively in the article and actually meets guidelines) gets removed all together. ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:57, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Actually it doesn't. It comes off as POV and slanderish which is almost never accepted on a BLP. When looking at the sources two were opinion pieces which is also not helpful. Notable criticism is fine but it has to be NPOV and well-sourced. The only source that was reliable simply stated that Frank had supported Fanny and Freddy "all these years", not exactly a smoking gun and certainly not that notable. That reliable source seemed to have blame for all sorts of folks. There is room for notable and reliable sourced content but we have to keep it within policies including WP:Undue. -- Banjeboi 10:16, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

So modify it to reflect what's covered in the body of the article and what's in the sources and what you think is NPOV instead of just taking it out and putting in your POV accolades. ChildofMidnight (talk) 15:51, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

I really didn't see it as modifiable. You may also want to consider this is a current news event and Frank is being slandered in many media outlets beyond due consideration. I'm fine with the body of the article creeping into a bit of undue material but the lede needs to overview his whole life and career. This financial crisis is not solely Frank's fault not his responsibility to fix it. If you look at President Bush's article you will likely see similar concerns raised but done so neutrally and in portion per wp:Undue. -- Banjeboi 01:57, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

I agree with you, childofmidnight. Just because 2 opinions were friendly to him doesn't make it right to put it in the lead paragraph no matter how well sourced. It's like me putting that the National Post said that Donald Rumsfeld was the "greatest President that never was." I know they are trying to promote him for their reasons, but this doesnt belong on Wikipedia. Thanks

Nicholas.tan (talk) 17:08, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Irony

Steely

Steely!

Even Steelier!

Goldie!

Goldie!

MySpace an RS now?

Is MySpace now a reliable source that can be used to establish notability now? Why didn't anyone tell me?--kelapstick (talk) 23:16, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Looks okay to me except the Myspace profile is set to private :( so it's not very useful as a citation. Also the record company doesn't have a lot of Myspace friends. How many Myspace friends do you need before you're considered notable? I think 23 isn't enough, but maybe if they're really really close friends? ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:04, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

I think you need 45 Myspace friends to be considered notable. I want to take it to AfD, but I would rather redirect it to Lillix (per WP:MUSIC) since he was a guitarist for them and that is about the only quasi notable thing that he did. Thoughts?--kelapstick (talk) 03:20, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Be BOLD. Bongomatic 03:37, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Bold is good. You can redirect, speedy, or put us all through an AfD. I support whatever you decide. Use the force. I think the main thing is to handle the poor misguided dreamer with kid gloves and to let them know that the subject needs substantial coverage in reliable independent sources like newpapers, magazine and books. You can quote me on that. And for the REALLY tough ones you can always count on Bongo. He has "steely" nerves for that kind thing. What's on tap for this weekend? Will you be whipping up some cookie salad? ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:53, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

I took bongos advice, was bold and redirected, I have been over and over telling him about the notability guidelines, WP:MUSIC and reliable sources, repeating that he has to actually read them. Anyway lets see what happens.--kelapstick (talk) 04:03, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Redirects are always a cheap. ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:09, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

You think I went with too many sections?--kelapstick (talk) 05:40, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

You really should have logged in for this edit.--kelapstick (talk) 20:54, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Looked like a reasonable edit to me. I wanted to revert its removal, but I didn't want to get slapped with another fish or vandalism warning or whatever. I'd like to have that at the top of my user:page. Do you think it would be best as a see also, soft redirect, or For other uses... ? ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:32, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Vietnamese diacritics

I'd like to recommend WinVNKey, an excellent free program that will let you type all the Vietnamese diacritics very easily (and it can also do pinyin, Spanish, French, German, and Nordic diacritics too). Just download it and I can help you set it up. It's very useful because you can even type those accents, umlauts, tildes, etc. in emails, Microsoft Word, Wikipedia, etc. Badagnani (talk) 03:12, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Macs already do those accents easily COM; just one more reason why I, and my computer, are better than you. :) Cheers! Scapler (talk) 11:30, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Don't you mean "why I, and my computer, is better than you"? Bongomatic 11:34, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

I think it should be "Why me and my computer are better than you". Does the Apple IIc I'm using not count as a Mac? No, you caught me. I got rid of my Apple IIc years ago. This is a deluxe 386. ChildofMidnight (talk) 15:35, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Notice

Hello, ChildofMidnight. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The discussion is about the topic User:Wikidemon. Thank you.--Caspian blue 03:04, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

At least it's not about me... yet. There's still time!  :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:33, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Banh

This edit is not accurate, because the term is used to refer to a lot of other things other than cakes, such as noodles or rice paper. Can you please revise accordingly? Badagnani (talk) 06:06, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Happy ChildofMidnight's Day!

ChildofMidnight has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian, and therefore, I've officially declared today as ChildofMidnight's day! For your DYKs on the most artery-clogging foods on the planet, enjoy being the Star of the day, ChildofMidnight! Cheers, bibliomaniac15 00:20, 29 March 2009 (UTC) If you'd like to show off your awesomeness, you can use this userbox.

This is great news indeed and cause for massive celebration. I've taken the liberty of reposting this fantastic news as many places as I could think of so that others can share in the good news. Thanks very much. You are very kind. Enjoy my day. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:34, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations! I will be sure to celebrate in your honour today!--kelapstick (talk) 01:22, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. And remember, there's no U in my honor. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:33, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

The people who pay me can't convert me, so the people who don't pay me will not be able to either! Keep up the good work and good luck getting Bacon mania past the merge discussion.--kelapstick (talk) 03:56, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations! And I'll just have you know that, as far as I am concerned, every day is CoM day. Later, Drmies (talk) 16:04, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Barack Obama introduction

Please discuss further changes to the article introduction on Talk: Barack Obama - a discussion has been underway and we need to reach consensus on such changes. Thank you. Tvoz/talk 07:07, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Tala maanam

All I know about this term is that it has something to do with Vaastu, which is about building design. Sorry to say that I don't know what it really means. Paalappoo (talk) 08:06, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Delete account

Wondering what this article is all about. From the author's talk page, it seems a previous article on the same subject was deleted. I feel this too has to be either deleted or moved. Paalappoo (talk) 14:55, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

• It was actually an article on Display Magazine, an article that had been—and has again been—speedily deleted as advertising. I moved it and speedy requested the resulting redirect. Bongomatic 02:34, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Talk:List of liqueurs

Could you please refactor your comment here. I'm happy to clarify exactly what needs refactoring, if it isn't clear. However, I'm hoping that your comments were just made in the heat of a moment. Thanks! --Ronz (talk) 01:56, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for asking Ronz, but no. I'm happy with my comment. If you think it's inappropriate in some way feel free to report it at the appropriate notice board. I will be refactoring your retitling of my comment which is a clear violation of policy. Cheers. ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:58, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry you feel that way, on all accounts. Too bad, because there are a few points worth discussing, but I rather the entire comment be ignored. --Ronz (talk) 02:22, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I agree that GT's comment should be ignored, or better yet removed. The provocative title is bad enough in and of itself. Maybe you can mention to him/her how inappropriate it is to use an article discussion page in that way. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:24, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Given GT's extreme patience, I think it's understandable. It's editors jumping in that I feel need to be ignored. --Ronz (talk) 02:31, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, Ronz, but "editors jumping in" is what Wikipedia is all about. Not always efficient or pleasing to everyone, but that's by design. Bongomatic 02:45, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Jumping in with comments that don't belong, or require heavy refactoring to meet basic behavioral policies and guidelines is not what Wikipedia is about at all. In fact, it's specifically what Wikipedia is not --Ronz (talk) 02:52, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Xôi

It must be a weird one, because we've got almost all of the normal ones at Xôi. The Vietnamese are wont to creating new varieties of all their foods, however. Badagnani (talk) 02:53, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I mentioned a free software program that will allow you to type all the diacritics, both Vietnamese and for any other language (very helpful when asking editors to look up etymologies)--did you want to set that up? I'll be happy to help you. Badagnani (talk) 02:53, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Articleworthy?

Hey old friend! My latest abomination: I Get That a Lot Daniel Christensen (talk) 16:05, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Looks good to me DC. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:24, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Batu Hijau mine

See if you can get some pictures for the Batu Hijau mine. That is if you can pry yourself away from baconian controversies. Cheerios.--kelapstick (talk) 00:05, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

you may have to fly there.--kelapstick (talk) 00:05, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Bike rides

Hey CoM, can you find a way to merge this information into The Strand (bicycle path)? I don't know this stuff well enough and don't have time to learn. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 16:22, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Done. Would you like me to fold your laundry also?  :) Only kidding. First you went after running and now biking. Soon we will be stuck on our couches eating bacon. A perfect world? ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:09, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

I only run if I am being chased.--kelapstick (talk) 17:10, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

We had grits this morning, so I had to fry some bacon too, that's mandatory. I hope to finish this batch soon so I can get to the Niman Ranch, which is really tasty (and preferable for covering with chocolate). And thanks, but no thanks--I'm very picky about how my laundry is folded, and I don't approve of the American way (with the front of the t-shirt facing out, so to speak). On running, I'm with you, Kelapstick. Well, far behind you, probably. Drmies (talk) 17:32, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

I was unaware of this.--kelapstick (talk) 17:35, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Interesting point. Is that a specifically Canadian capability? (You know I've never met either a Canadian or a chicken?) Drmies (talk) 18:06, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Bacon and tomato sandwich for lunch, and yes we can turn into chickens at will. You've never met a Canadian? So I guess there is no way you can refute that statement!--kelapstick (talk) 19:41, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Obama is a Democrat

Thanks for adding an extra voice into stating the NPOV obvious on Obama's political positions page.  EJNOGARB  17:31, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Re...

...this, thanks! Drmies (talk) 18:11, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Woodman's of Essex and Lawrence Woodman

On April 3, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Woodman's of Essex, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

On April 3, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Lawrence Woodman, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 21:37, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

• Woohoo! Congratulations! Thanks for letting me play! Drmies (talk) 22:16, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Tobacky

I've rephrase (hopefully) to give preference to the article rather than original synthesis. The article and the quoted bit mentions the promise and the "breaking" of the promise so hopefully all are satisfied. Grsz¹¹ 02:18, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Looks okay to me. Thanks for the note. I saw today that calls to tobacco help lines are supposedly increasing. On the other hand, taxes on cigarettes are a big revenue source for Government.  :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:24, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

And if it's going to healthcare, is there really a downside? It's one of those double-ended swords. You raise the hell out of the tax but hope they still steal or else it's pointless. Of course, I can't really see any significant drop in use forthcoming. Grsz¹¹ 02:27, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Bacon cabal news

Bacon mania strikes wikipedia??? [3] ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:26, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Ha! You the man! Drmies (talk) 03:38, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

<mr burns>Excellent</mr burns>--kelapstick (talk) 03:39, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

And Turbaconducken...can there be such a thing, me hopes so.--kelapstick (talk) 03:41, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

:)

I found this in Kelapstick's sandbox... User:Kelapstick/Sandbox5 ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:48, 4 April 2009 (UTC) ‎

I am two steps ahead of you, I had it watched just in case you decided to do something like this, first time hearing the phrase though, help yourself to using it though, I do have a lot on the go there, but a couple are maintenance though. Feel free to expand Dead Hot Workshop in Sandbox 2.--kelapstick (talk) 03:58, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

...that`s crazy talk!--kelapstick (talk) 04:04, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm thinking notability for turbaconducken and BaconToday is a "work in progress". Should I take one of them live just for fun? Think of the good times we've had at Bacon mania!!! ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:07, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

You guys are sick, AND you're making me hungry. Drmies (talk) 05:53, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Mies, Dr., do you call the veggie imitation fakon, facon bacon (is it trademarked?) or facon? Is it a notable subject for its own article? I fear that the Vegans and kosher forces may be allied against us. I think we need to offer more in the way of alternatives. There is after all turkey bacon. Also can you have a look on the bacon mania talk page and see if you can make sense of the Shakespearean bacon mania connection. It has something to do with a conspiracy theorist having trichinosis of the brain, as I recall. But that's more your area of expertise. I found a good Weekly World News source for Turbaconducken. I wonder how much more will be needed to establish notability??? So many trials and tribulations. Isn't there a way to grease the gears, so to speak...??? ChildofMidnight (talk) 06:06, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

Don't know if you're stalking my edits, or you saw my not on Alansohn's page, but thank you for improving the articles I've worked on recently. Bongomatic 08:40, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Bacon

Noting your apparent love of things bacony, I thought you would appreciate this product. -- Scjessey (talk) 13:44, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Gary Kendall and Notability

I thought his notability was fairly well established through the number of awards he has won, but I will endeavour to be more persuasive here.

Dreadarthur (talk) 19:27, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

An article on the Maple Blues Award might be nice. That article needs citations to substantial indpendent coverage from reliable sources. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:34, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Removed comments Obama talk page

I just noticed you removed some comments of mine.[4] First, that is wrong and you need to stop now. You are an experienced editor, who has been warned many times, and are well familiar with dispute resolution procedures - contributing in an arbitration on this very matter. I will reinsert them, but given the disruption I think we should simply close the discussion. If you mess with this anymore we are going straight to AN/I and given your history you are probably asking for a topic ban. You have a history of harassing me and disrupting articles I am editing. You need to stop. Wikidemon (talk) 22:12, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Your comments were inappropriate. That article is on probation and your soap boxing and personal attacks had nothing to do with article content and were totally inappropriate, as is your continuing to post here despite being asked repeatedly not to do so. I'm not interested in your trolling and future comments will be removed. Please abide by the guidelines for article talk pages and behavior. Thanks. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:57, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

As I have explained before, I have avoided posting unnecessary to this page, but I will post here when it is most appropriate. The intended purpose of talk pages, among other things, is to post notices like the above rather than carrying out behavioral disputes on article talk pages. If you do not wish to receive such notices, please do not earn them. And do not accuse me of trolling. The retaliatory notice you placed on my talk page is also wrong. Wikidemon (talk) 02:01, 5 April 2009 (UTC)