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Invitation to Wikiconference USA

Please come if you can!

Hello! In New York City Friday 30 May - Sunday 1 June Wikiconference USA will be held as a national United States Wikipedia meetup hosted by Wikimedia New York City and Wikimedia DC. All are welcome to attend. Scholarship applications to cover travel expenses are accepted until the end of March and presentation submissions are requested until that time but can be accepted until closer to the conference.

In previous years New York City conferences have gathered 150 attendees. At this conference we are hoping for more people to attend.

It would be nice if participants and supporters of WikiProject LGBT could attend. Anyone with questions may contact me or any of the other organizers, or post on the conference website. Blue Rasberry (talk) 22:14, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Created new article = Sex, Sin, and Blasphemy: A Guide to America's Censorship Wars

• Sex, Sin, and Blasphemy: A Guide to America's Censorship Wars

I've created a new article on the book, Sex, Sin, and Blasphemy: A Guide to America's Censorship Wars.

Help with researching additional secondary sources would be appreciated, at Talk:Sex, Sin, and Blasphemy: A Guide to America's Censorship Wars.

— Cirt (talk) 08:57, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Need more attention at LGBT rights in Russia

More editors are needed to check neutrality of LGBT rights in Russia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.141.27.46 (talk) 03:25, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Fauxmosexual/Celesbian

This might be a case where a parent article on LGBTQ identities or term might be better. Any ideas? Sportfan5000 (talk) 04:05, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

New article = Cutting the Mustard: Affirmative Action and the Nature of Excellence

• Cutting the Mustard: Affirmative Action and the Nature of Excellence

I've created a new article on the book, Cutting the Mustard: Affirmative Action and the Nature of Excellence.

Help with researching additional secondary sources would be appreciated, at Talk:Cutting the Mustard: Affirmative Action and the Nature of Excellence.

— Cirt (talk) 04:17, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Your help is needed - Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Domino Presley

Hi. It would be great if someone could please review this article before it undergoes it's fourth decline by someone who might not have experience with these subjects. You can take a look here: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Domino Presley. Thanks! SarahStierch (talk) 19:05, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Help with Simple English Wikipedia

Could some people help expand the following articles on the Simple English Wikipedia? You don't have to get it perfect, just expand it to the point where it is no longer a stub.

• Bean_queen
• Chub
• Closeted
• Faggot_(slang)
• Gay_bashing
• Gay_icon

Frozen (2013 film) -- gay themes topic

Opinions might be needed from this project on this matter: Talk:Frozen (2013 film)#Appropriateness of a Lesbian cartoon for children?. There are a lot of reviewers (I'm speaking of the ones who pass as WP:Reliable sources) who have interpreted, or have reported people as having interpreted, the film as having one or more LGBT parallels, and the talk page discussion concerns whether or not we should include material about that in the article. Flyer22 (talk) 17:29, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Oh Jesus... this again? EvergreenFir (talk) 19:20, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

You mean it's been discussed before at that article (other than the two sections currently there on the talk page about it), or do you mean in general (that people often tie LGBT themes to the film)? Flyer22 (talk) 19:32, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Since I don't see an archives box at that talk page showing that the gay themes aspect has been discussed before the two sections currently there about it, you must mean the latter (that people often tie LGBT themes to the film). Flyer22 (talk) 19:35, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

More in general. Thought the issue had its 15 seconds in the news and fizzled out. EvergreenFir (talk) 19:36, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

I didn't even know about the gay themes aspect until this Morning Movie News video: Leonardo DiCaprio, Movie Star! Frozen's Elsa and Lesbian Characters in Film - Beyond The Trailer (from a channel on YouTube). And I watched Frozen for the first time last week and with my 17-year-old sister, who also had not yet seen the film but already knew a lot about the film (though not too many spoilers about it, and I think not the gay theme aspect either). Flyer22 (talk) 20:38, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

The initial post is obviously non-constructive, but if reliable sources discuss it as a way of reading the film, it would seem to merit a mention in themes or reception. That said, I took a look at the article and the reception section is a bunch of quotes. I would have said that based on comparative source discussion, the LGBT interpretation would need to be subordinated in weight to the responses that talked about the Girl Power themes (saving yourself, love for a sister and not for a guy) but I see that the article doesn't really talk about the latter. Both should be added. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 22:06, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Oh, you mean the current (latest) section on the talk page about the gay themes aspect (the one I linked to above) begins with an unconstructive post. I actually see the question "Just curious why the issue is not discussed?" as being fine; the "Lesbian cartoon for children" heading can be argued as problematic, since the film is not a "lesbian cartoon" and neither is the film only for children...though lesbian aspects may be interpreted with regard to the film. That poster's followup comment obviously is seen as problematic, and perhaps that's the comment you feel is unconstructive, or both comments and the heading? Flyer22 (talk) 22:31, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

AfC submission - 27/03

Wikipedia_talk:Articles for creation/Geiger v. Kitzhaber. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 21:49, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

72.11.53.145's view of TS and TG

Go to Talk:Trans woman and study the comments made by User:72.11.53.145. She says that TS and TG are 2 separate kinds of people. Any arguments supporting her statement?? Georgia guy (talk) 01:46, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Before you replied to her, I'd already replied to her here. There are always people at that article, the Transgender and Transsexual articles and other transgender Wikipedia articles expressing their personal definitions of what it means to be transgender, despite transgender very clearly being an umbrella term that includes transsexual people, and trying to apply their definitions to everyone like them; Wikipedia doesn't go by that, of course; it goes by WP:Verifiability and WP:Due weight in cases such as this. Flyer22 (talk) 01:55, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Pride

I invite project members to view the recently-constructed project pages for Wiki Loves Pride and its subpage for this year's campaign, Wiki Loves Pride 2014. Wiki Loves Pride is a global project to expand and improve LGBT-related content across several Wikimedia projects, but mostly Wikipedia.

This year will mark the first attempt at organizing a one-day international edit-a-thon, modeled after the Art+Feminism edit-a-thon. It is being supported by Wikimedia LGBT, a proposed user group that promotes the development of content on Wikimedia projects which is of interest to LGBT communities. Also, I submitted this "idea" at IdeaLab for feedback and to get the ball rolling on possible funding for events. An exact date is still to be determined, but feel free to add your name to this list to receive updates. And of course, please create an event subpage here if you are willing to host an LGBT edit-a-thon in your city.

I hope you will consider supporting and participating in this effort to improve LGBT-related content at Wikipedia. Thank you for your consideration. Additional details to follow! --Another Believer _(Talk) 18:24, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Wow, "Wiki Loves Pride"? Nothing POV about that. Dozzzzzzzzzing off (talk) 17:26, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

There are many advocacy groups working to improve Wikipedia articles. This is just one more. Is it wrong to have advocacy groups that work to improve articles on Christianity or conservative politics? They do exist. TechBear | Talk | Contributions 17:35, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

I guess I just misunderstood. This is my first experience with WT. Sorry. Dozzzzzzzzzing off (talk) 17:36, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Hook ideas?

I've DYKed Template:Did you know nominations/Christopher Senyonjo, but one of you could probably come up with a spiffier hook than I did. ALTn's welcome at the DYK page. Wnt (talk) 01:12, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Invitation to Participate in a User Study - Final Reminder

Would you be interested in participating in a user study of a new tool to support editor involvement in WikiProjects? We are a team at the University of Washington studying methods for finding collaborators within WikiProjects, and we are looking for volunteers to evaluate a new visual exploration tool for Wikipedia. Given your interest in this Wikiproject, we would welcome your participation in our study. To participate, you will be given access to our new visualization tool and will interact with us via Google Hangout so that we can solicit your thoughts about the tool. To use Google Hangout, you will need a laptop/desktop, a web camera, and a speaker for video communication during the study. We will provide you with an Amazon gift card in appreciation of your time and participation. For more information about this study, please visit our wiki page (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Finding_a_Collaborator). If you would like to participate in our user study, please send me a message at Wkmaster (talk) 00:21, 6 April 2014 (UTC).

Jack Halberstam (more commonly known as Judith Halberstam) -- what to title the article

When seeing this edit at the Butch and femme article, I almost reverted back because Jack is more commonly known as Judith and because I'm familiar with the pronoun matter with regard to him, but then I saw that the Wikipedia article about him was recently moved from Judith Halberstam to Jack Halberstam by Therequiembellishere and I was reminded that Halberstam currently goes by the name Jack or maybe it was my first time noticing that he now exclusively goes by that name "off the record"; and by "off the record," I mean what is stated in this interview about his name still officially being "Judith Halberstam" on newly published books. For example, on the book where he started going by Jack, it states "Judith 'Jack' Halberstam." Before, I thought it was a matter of him going by either name in his everyday life. And, indeed, he states in the aforementioned linked interview that "some people call me Jack, my sister calls me Jude, people who I've known forever call me Judith" and "I try not to police any of it. A lot of people call me he, some people call me she, and I let it be a weird mix of things and I'm not trying to control it." So given that Judith Halberstam is still Halberstam's WP:Common name, as even alluded to in the aforementioned linked interview and by the author name of his recent books, and considering that he is seemingly comfortable with people referring to him by feminine pronouns and his feminine name, is this a case that should have his Wikipedia article title at the masculine name over the feminine name? While MOS:IDENTITY applies with regard to the pronouns in this case, does it apply to the article title?

I'll alert WP:Manual of Style editors to this discussion, so that editors there may weigh in on this. Flyer22 (talk) 19:02, 12 April 2014 (UTC)