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Total deletion of an article

Hello Northamerica1000.

I created an article titled "Sober On Tuxedos (band)" which was deleted. Can you please remove it completely from wikipedia history because it appears on facebook?

Thank you in advance.

Mad00lini (talk) 08:17, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

• @Mad00lini: You can request suppression, which is a form of enhanced deletion that expunges information from any form of usual access, even by administrators. For more information, and to make a suppression request, see Wikipedia:Oversight. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 08:26, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

I Could Use Your Help Please

Hi Northamerica1000! I've become familiar with Jon Luvelli and his works. This past week I've been spending a lot of time speaking on his AFD discussion. There is no doubt that he is none throughout his industry for what he does. He has even had additional media coverage this week. I would like to ask you if we could turn his page into a WP:STUB so not only myself but others can further expand this article. I will continue to stay updated on this topic as I do several other pages pertaining to the art industry, and make edits as they're appropriate.

Thank you! MarPatton (talk) 14:23, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

• Hi @MarPatton: The qualifications for an article about a person on English Wikipedia comes down to whether or not the subject meets notability guidelines such as WP:BASIC and WP:GNG. There are also secondary notability guidelines that pertain to various people. For this subject, WP:CREATIVE can also be consulted, per their background as a photographer. More information about biographies of living persons on Wikipedia is available at WP:BLP.

The article may be deleted if consensus at the discussion forms for this action. Nevertheless, don't be discouraged if this occurs, and continue to contribute to Wikipedia. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 14:58, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

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Harej (talk) 00:23, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

BSDMS

I deleted a paragraph likely written by an Internet troll regarding how BSDMS became undank while the citation did not corroborate the claim. Might be good to return the page to protected status?--☭🎆🌎🎼🎺🐦 02:54, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

• Not really seeing a reason to protect Bernie Sanders' Dank Meme Stash; it's rather stable and there hasn't really been that much editing going on with it. Protection is typically used to prevent continuous problematic edits from occurring after they have occurred, rather than preventing them from occurring before they occur. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 05:13, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks

I've noticed you at Afds and have noticed how you keep helping editors with nudges and hints about the right arguments to follow apart from providing links to the right articles to read. Your edit of my references at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mary Lincoln Beckwith was also appreciated by me. Thanks for all that... Lourdes 14:26, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

@Xender Lourdes: I remember that now. The header2 in the discussion was truncating the indentation of the table of contents on the main AfD log page, because AfD listings are posted with a header3. So, I changed it to header4. Cheers, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 20:51, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Sputnik Monroe

Thanks for getting the dab page issue resolved. I was about to do that and saw that you're already on top of it! GigglesnortHotel (talk) 20:49, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

• No problemo. Cheers, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 23:04, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Hard soda

On 28 June 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hard soda, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that hard soda is a fast-emerging segment in the craft beer industry that realized over one percent of overall beer category sales in the U.S. in May 2016? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hard soda. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Hard soda), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:38, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Icebar Orlando

On 29 June 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Icebar Orlando, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Icebar Orlando claims to be the world's largest permanent ice bar? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Icebar Orlando. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Icebar Orlando), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 09:03, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Theatre for a New Audience

I'd like to get your thoughts on this article since you worked on it in the past. We've been discussed with the subject themselves (ticket:2015100610022918) about their article. It was deleted for text copyvio from multiple sources (including their own website, which they're willing to license per CC-BY-SA-3.0). I've been scouring previous revisions of the article to try to gauge if we could restore a previous copyvio-free version but I'm having a slightly hard time determining what revision would be best. I'm eyeing this one of your just before a 5k bytes enlargment but later, better revisions might also be workable with some trimming I suppose? I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the matter. Thanks for the assistance. :) ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 15:23, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

@Salvidrim: I just viewed the discussion at Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2015 September 30. I am working on entirely other matters at this time, and I don't really feel like becoming involved in all of this at this time, making all of the comparisons that are necessary with the various urls provided in the discussion, etc., which can take significant time. Sorry, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 23:49, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

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A revert without due cause

This was an unfounded revert. Trademark registration is not the same as copyright status - the two are entirely separate rights and issues. I've been dealing with copyright images for a very long time and this is clearly a PD-textlogo image per US law. You, and I should have remembered to do it, can add the {{trademark}} template to the freely licensed image which clearly states: These restrictions are independent of the copyright status. Please reinstate my edits. ww2censor (talk) 10:46, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

@Ww2censor:  Done. You appear to be correct. Sorry, but I was erring on the side of caution, thinking that this could have qualified as copyright infringement. After reading content at various places, such as here and at Commons:Non-copyright restrictions § Trademark law, your edit appears to be in order. Sorry for any hassle this may have created for you. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 10:58, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

N.b. I also added the {{Trademark}} template to the page. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 11:00, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Thanks for your contributions here and for helping everyone on the project, Keep up the amazing work! :), –Davey2010Talk 12:10, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

@Davey2010: Grazie for the brew. Cheers, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 12:26, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

You're welcome :), Happy editing, –Davey2010^Talk 15:04, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

@Davey2010: No, you're welcome (diff). Cheerioooooooo, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:43, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

mongoose webserver vs mongoose javascript library

hi User:Northamerica1000, i really love persons expanding articles. but i would really appreciate that the expansion remotely meets the topic of the article. the Mongoose (web server) has nothing to do with a javascript library called mongoose. putting a book about a javascript library in there is highly confusing. --ThurnerRupert (talk) 14:58, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

You stripped some valid sources from the article (e.g. diff) after !voting to delete the article at AfD. Removing sources from an article that serve to demonstrate notability while also !voting to delete is rather poor form, and could be interpreted as a biased editing decision to better qualify your !vote at AfD. I restored this source to the article, using it as an inline citation to verify content. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:41, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

4th of July

	Shoot the works!!
	Based on your user name, I'm thinking its safe to wish you a fun 4th of July celebration. Not sure how our friends in other countries feel about it but as for me, I've got the beer iced down, and a comfy chair in the bed of the truck to enjoy the show tomorrow night! 🍻 🎉 Atsme📞📧 02:08, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

@Atsme: I'll be checking out fireworks on TV tonight, but I may go to a bar later to chill with some locals. Hope you've been doing well, and happy 4th of July. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:06, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 27, 2016)

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Draft:Komal Jha

I believe I have taken your word of caution in adding this post by appending it at the end with - Edit Source !

Thank you for all the contributions ! This discussion thread is closed stating 'Keep' as a decision.
(cur | prev) 22:07, 24 June 2016‎ JohnCD (talk | contribs)‎ . . (23,301 bytes) (+2,047)‎ . . (→‎Draft:Komal Jha: Closing debate; result was keep (using User:Doug/closemfd.js)) (undo | thank)
Now, as User:SmokeyJoe mentioned in the same thread, is it appropriate to move it to main article space? Please guide.
Also, about a new article on a different subject, which I want to contribute, should I have to go through the review mechanism or can I publish directly?
Thanks ! Ch.th (talk) 12:43, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

• Hello Ch.th: Yes, the MfD discussion was closed with a keep result, but I have to leave this matter to DGG, the administrator who performed the most recent deletion of the article and also most recently fully protected the page from recreation (see the log page for the article). There are two reasons I cannot unilaterally publish the article: 1) this could potentially be perceived as wheel warring, per the history of the page, and 2) I am involved because I have made contributions to the draft. So, after posting this, I will notify DGG about this discussion and we'll await their response here. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:11, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

I'll look tomorrow. DGG ( talk ) 05:15, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Thank you both for all the support and guidance. I shall look forward to it. Also, please let me know as I asked earlier, should I go through AfC reviews for my new articles too or can I directly create and publish them? Thanks ! Ch.th (talk) 07:01, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Ousterhout AfD

Were you surprised as well that that got called as no consensus? I notice you stayed out of the debate but still tagged a couple of the !votes. It obviously makes no real difference since keep is the default outcome when there's no consensus, but still, I thought this was a poor call. Secondary sources citing primary sources is not a reason to delete and the promotional complaints were before the article got revised. When the WP:RS to satisfy WP:GNG exist, you're supposed to keep, no matter what the vote count. When I looked, I realized the admin who closed it doesn't have that much experience. Msnicki (talk) 17:58, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

@Msnicki: inre the AfD discussion, you can always discuss the closure with the closing admin to present them with your take on the matter. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:12, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

I, on the other hand, thing the close was probably in error: it should have been delete, because the references were unreliable and anecdotal-- Allure to show notability of a surgeon? But rather than appealing -- ot renominating as can be done almost immediately after a no-consensus close, I'm just fixing the article as best I can. Menicki. eight years of experience at Deletion Review (which somewhat to my amazement actually adds up to over a thousand reviews I've watched or commented in) has me firmly convinced that regardless of what one thinks should have happened, it is almost never worthwhile to appeal a no-consensus close. DGG ( talk ) 08:10, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

I can't see any point to DRV'ing a no consensus close, either. It's also not usually worth discussing with the closing admin unless you're intending to DRV them. No one ever changes their close just because you ask; they usually just double down. Also, "fixing the article" does not mean deleting it sentence-by-sentence because you weren't able to delete it all at once. Msnicki (talk) 08:30, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Msnicki, I've changed closes. Admins vary. The point of discussing it is that you will perhaps be satisfied by the explanation--abouth alf the time, people are. Of course, not all admins do give detailed explanations on request as they ought to.

Since you reverted my changes on Ousterhout, I assume the your last sentence refers to that; we can discuss why on the talk p. sentence by sentence . My reaction is not trying to remove it sentence by sentence, though I know some people have done that at times; I meant what I said-- that since we're keeping it, I'm trying to improve it by removing the weak points, as for any article. DGG ( talk ) 17:43, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

I'll think about approaching her. If you're sincere about improving an article, one of the best ways is to look for sources. In fact, it's something you're supposed to do in good faith at every AfD, since the sources merely need to exist, not actually be cited to establish notability. I try to do that even when I hate the subject and I think you'll notice I change my !votes pretty routinely when others discover sources, again, even if I personally hate the article. I think you could have done better this time.

The sources establish that he invented facial feminization surgery (FFS) but I'm not convinced you appreciate the significance of that, so that may be a reason you're skeptical of the whole article as promotional. The significance is that he was literally the first surgeon to figure out how to change a male face into a female face, all of it without visible scars. (All of the jaw work was done via incisions inside the mouth.) Before that, there was simply no one who knew how to do this and trans people got nose jobs and cheek implants that did not fool anyone. To make an analogy, to the trans community, this is like the first guy to figure out how to do a heart transplant or make a working light bulb. It meant you actually could change the gender people saw you as, without any makeup. What wasn't possible became possible.

Naturally, we don't cite any of this in a BLP, but here is one of the earliest personal accounts,[1] from 18 years ago, several years before the term FFS had been invented, that might help you understand how revolutionary and how significant this was at the time. Nicole (today an EE lecturer [2]) suggested the lip shortening, which Ousterhout then began doing on all his later patients. Msnicki (talk) 19:31, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

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List of street foods

Hello! Hey, what do you think about the idea of table-izing the List of street foods article, using a format similar to that of List of regional dishes of the United States? So the table columns would be image, name, associated region, and description. (I would vote for having one long table, instead of breaking it into multiple tables by type of food.) — Mudwater ^(Talk) 00:43, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

• @Mudwater: Sounds good to me, as per the example below (same format as List of regional dishes of the United States). I think it looks fly with the image first. One long list if fine by me. Hey, I have a wiki-friend who may be able to easily convert the content into table format, per a technique she has that does not require laboriously going through every entry manually, so pinging Anna Frodesiak here to see if she has time to pitch in. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:07, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Image	Name	Associated regions	Description
	Cute cat and dog	Somewhere	A dog attempting to high five. The cat is leaving him hangin'.
	Talking geoduck	Somewhere	A talking geoduck giving thanks. The sound is magically heard above the water.
	Unicorn	Space?	This 'corn appears to live in space. It has an oxygen tank within the horn.

Sure, I'll do it right now. I have a bit of time. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:11, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

@Anna Frodesiak: Wow, thanks. Instant response. Pinging Mudwater to let them know, so they don't do the long-form work. Anna's tablefication is supreme! North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:22, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Sounds good! — Mudwater ^(Talk) 01:23, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Here you go: Talk:Regional street food#Conversion to table format Talk:List of street foods#Conversion to table format. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:47, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Fixed link above, per request here. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:16, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

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Talk:List of street foods

This is gonna be great. Here's my attempt at starting the table manually, using the first three entries in the current list, with some added images and descriptions:

Image	Name	Associated region	Description
	Acarajé	Brazil	A dish made from peeled beans formed into a ball and then deep-fried in dendê (palm oil)
	Aloo Chaat	Northern India and Pakistan	Prepared by frying potatoes in oil and adding spices and chutney
	Aloo tikki	Northern India and Pakistan	A snack made out of boiled potatoes, onions and various spices

References

— Mudwater ^(Talk) 01:15, 8 July 2016 (UTC)