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== Addition of Names whose articles have already been created in Wikipedia. ==

1. Kashmir Singh Katoch
2. Janak Singh
3. Anant Singh Pathania
4. Vidyut Jamwal
5. General VK Singh
6. Col. Ranveer Singh Jamwal
7. General Sri Rajendra Singh ji Jadeja
8. Sankay Kumar ( Paramvir Chakra)
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Verifiability

Per WP:V, people listed here should either have their own article, or their existence and notability should be directly sourced in a footnote. Names that have neither a blue link nor a reference attached should be removed. dab (𒁳) 11:27, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Recent edit war

Singh, I'm reverting your edits because they do not conform to several well-established guidelines that Wikipedia has set up. The first is neutral point of view. This means making no subjective assertations. For example, you cannot call someone the "greatest warrior" of the group, as you did with Banda Bahadur. The only way you can say something like this is if you present it with independant reliable sources. Another policy you are unintentionally violating is that of verifiability. On Wikipedia, especially on massive lists such as this, everything that can be considered contentious must be verified by reliable sources. This policy was upheld in relation to this article last year at its [Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_Rajputs|deletion debate]]. For any questions you have regarding these topics, feel free to post here or contact me. Themfromspace (talk) 04:00, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Apology

I apologize for my reversion of an edit to this article with a comment about a "POV-pusher" yesterday. I was reverting a number of inappropriate edits made yesterday by someone who is a readily identifiable POV-pusher, including an addition he made to this talk page, and I must have been seriously distracted because I also reverted someone else's edit in the article itself even though that wasn't his, and my reversion made no sense. I must have been seriously distracted. Thanks to User:Shshshsh for catching it and taking care of it. —Largo Plazo (talk) 12:01, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chandragupta maurya

y is chandragupta maurya not included in the list???...this is the extract 4rm the rajput section.."Bappa Rawal of the Gahlot dynasty established his rule in 734 CE at Chittor. Chittor was until that time ruled by the Mori clan of Rajputs. Maan Mori was their last king at Chittor. It is believed the word Mori is a corruption of Maurya, the famous dynasty of Ashoka." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajput ````--59.182.76.186 (talk) 20:23, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]


yes you are right but in wrong manner means morya emperors of that time were kshatriyas but not rajputs as we all know rajputs were formed after christ and yes morya emperor descendants are mori rajputs which was proven by col james todd but that dont made chandragupta morya a rajput. His descendants are rajputs(Mori rajput tribe) but that dont means he was also a rajput. Rajput is not a caste this community includes member from many kshatriya community many of today rajputs are jats,gujjars,huns,kushans,morya etc but that dont mean all jats are rajputs.

And yes your example is correct bappa rawal mori was descendant of morya empeors.

115.241.254.176 (talk) 06:32, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jat, Gujjars and other foreign clans have no historical backing about them being included in Rajputs. The confusion has been there only because the surnames of Rajputs have been copied by these castes. In fact there is great social rivalry between Rajputs (high caste Hindus) and Jats/Gujjars( lower caste people) wherever they coexist in society. Matrimonial alliance amongst these castes are rare. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:C18A:233A:3218:14B6:8027:BBCD (talk) 08:29, 6 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

I have asked for references for this article in 2007. Nothing has happened. Of the entire list, five individuals have "references", all of them random urls.

I am sure it is possible to compile a referenced list of notable Rajput, but so far nobody has done that. I suggest we delete the article for now, since removing unreferenced content would amount to removing 100% of content. Anybody is of course welcome to start compiling a list of Rajputs that is actually based on references. --dab (𒁳) 09:37, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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are only rajasthani rajputs rajputs

few fools have edited Maratha rajputs from this list, from which era you have come, many maratha families have descent of rajputs and if you want proof then here is the proof, GS SARDESAI the noted and probably the greatest maratha historian writes this---http://books.google.co.in/books?id=lTVuAAAAMAAJ&q=their+is+no+doubt+ancestor+of+several+present+day+maratha+families+as+has+been+shown+in+the+first+chapter+migrated+from+north+rajput&dq=their+is+no+doubt+ancestor+of+several+present+day+maratha+families+as+has+been+shown+in+the+first+chapter+migrated+from+north+rajput&hl=en&ei=qtLITpr2OIHkrAfl68TBDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAA go through this the fact is Maratha is no caste and we maratha no our history better than anti-maratha and anti-rajput people. Chatrapati maharaj shivaji was rajput so are we, shahu maharaj was no descendant of shivaji he was a "GHATGE" who claim themselves to be rajput but dont have any proof.

similarly how can rajputs ignore "ZORAWAR SINGH" and "GULAB SINGH" the two brilliant dogra rajputs whose name used to strike fear among muslims the reason why "SRINAGAR" is with india and not with pakistan are these "DOGRA RAJPUTS" you have included karan singh name but not his famous ancestor gulab singh.122.161.9.103 (talk) 10:15, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Therefore their is no question of those deletion the maratha rajput origin has been long proven and was confirmed by many old persian documents and many other sources and i know those people who are behind these deletion but with a general agreement of GS SARDESAI and many more scholars we can assume that "SEVERAL MARATHA CLANS ARE RAJPUTS" though to save with 100% authenticity that which maratha is rajput and which is not will be difficult but general statement "SEVERAL MARATHA FAMILIES ARE RAJPUTS" by a noted scholar and their are many other evdiences which prove rajput origin of several maratha clans.122.161.214.50 (talk) 10:27, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]


why was shivaji name excluded

Shivaji sisodia origin has more than enough evidence to include his name in rajput list with a note that some scholars doubt it, when jats have got ranjit singh, gujjars have included prithwiraj chauhan himself though i am not doubting his gurjar origin as gurjar is a caste whereas rajput is a clan similar to maratha and hence chauhan can be rajputs of gurjar origin.122.161.78.118 (talk) 03:38, 22 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thakur Jugal Kishore Sinha

@ Sitush is deleting the names of Thakur Jugal Kishore Sinha and Ram Dulari Sinha from the List of Rajputs,These two leaders are the most prominent leaders of the Rajput Community in Bihar. Kindly avoid doing this, as it is not justified. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prabhatmishra1985 (talkcontribs) 06:44, 19 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You need to find a reliable source that supports your statement that they are Rajputs. If you are unsure of how to enter the thing in the article then you can take a look at WP:Citing sources or just dump the info here & I will sort it out for you. - Sitush (talk) 07:05, 19 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 1 March 2012

Bisht Rajput of Uttrakhand 122.162.17.22 (talk) 09:36, 1 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.Celestra (talk) 15:52, 1 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Shivaji Rajput Origin is not Claimed it is PROVED

Shivaji the Great(Dr Balkrishna) and Historiy of Mudhol Ghorpade(DV APTE) proved it long ago that Shivaji was Rajput the FARMANS(ROYAL ORDERS) of Bahmani Sultans and Adil Shahi Sultans long ago demolished the 20th century RUMOR THAT SHIVAJI IS NOT A RAJPUT.

All the concerned contributors have a check on one of the user, the guy dont posses any knowledge of MARATHA, he has written that "SHIVAJI WAS MARATHA CASTE" . Wait Wait Wait IS MARATHA A CASTE then how are "CHITPAVAN BRAHMINS"(Peshwa Family) were Brahmins and Shinde(sindhia) and Holkar were "SHUDRA" . The guy dont posses any knowledge and the statement given by that guy in deleting the name of Shivaji was typical he said "SOME PEOPLE CLAIM" , my dear friend you are saying opposite thing HIS RAJPUT ORIGIN WAS ACCEPTED ALWAYS, the works on the basis of which SOME POLITICALLY MOTIVATED HISTORIAN DOUBT RAJPUT ORIGIN ARE -

1-Shiva Digvijaya Bakhar(composed in 1818)

2-91 qalmi Bakhr(written in 1760s)

3-Shedgaonkar Bakhar(written in 1854)

none of these works are CONTEMPORARY work of Shivaji life. Further by deleting well SOURCED content from WIKIPEDIA is a violation bear this fact in mind. 122.161.222.51 (talk) 14:22, 30 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Rather than SHOUTING etc, is it possible to provide a source that explicitly says Shivaji was a Rajput. Forget the Maratha stuff for now because that sends us down byways regarding whether or not Marathas are Rajput; and forget other specific caste groups also, for the same reason. Usually, it is possible to find a source that uses the "Rajput" word and complies with our policies. Do that and the problem goes away. And, please, try to do it using a modern source rather than something from a couple of centuries ago - a lot of rubbish was written then, on all sorts of subjects, and we much prefer to use recent sources.

Equally, a message for the "other side" in this dispute: I realise that it is more difficult to prove a negative but I am aware that the Shivaji point has been contentious in the past, so can you find any reliable source that discusses his caste etc? - Sitush (talk) 17:13, 30 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that this article has been semi-protected once more. That means that IP contributors and other users who are not autoconfirmed will be unable to edit it. Fear not: make a request here and if it seems ok then I or someone else will sort it out. For example, if you can find something that resolves my query above then I will make it clear in the article, should that be necessary. - Sitush (talk) 17:22, 30 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]


And yes this once again proves that you know nothing about Shivaji. PERSIAN FARMANS(I HOPE YOU ATLEAST KNEW THE MEANING OF FARMANS) given by BAHMANI AND ADILSHAHI SULTANS to Shivaji's ancestors have proven long back that BHONSLE AND GHORPADES(COUSINS) are descendants of SISODIA RAJPUTS.05:58, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


Sitush as again i hold more knowledge than you in this matter and if you will visit BHOSLE you will see that i have given the EVIDENCES OF SHIVAJI SHUDRA ORIGIN AS WELL but the sources which speaks of SHIVAJI AS LOWER CASTE ARE SO LATE IN DATE THAT NO NEUTRAL HISTORIAN WILL CONSIDER THEM. ABDEVILLIERS0007 (talk) 05:54, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]


I think the problem with WIKI editors are that their is no guideline because of which any editor , edits anything even when he dont know much about that thing and that is the biggest NEGATIVE point of Wikipedia. And no its not you many other too think and back themselves with jadunath sarkar and his followers , first he was not the best biograpeher of Shivaji, be it Britannica or Soviet encyclopaedia , the Shivaji article has been sourced mainly from Dr Balkrishna Shivaji the Great. Further many historians are politically motivated who may be soft on "MUSLIMS AND LOWER CASTE HINDUS". none the less many EMINENT MARATHA HISTORIANS(CV VAIDYA, GH KHARE, DV APTE, KELUSKAR, DB PARASNIS) support Shivaji rajput origin(this is before the discovery of persian farmans after the discovery their is no contest).ABDEVILLIERS0007 (talk) 06:06, 5 June 2012 (UTC) ABDEVILLIERS0007 (talk) 06:06, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I do agree that Maratha is a distinct category, and there have been an age when all leading clans tried to glorify them as Rajputs. Now my question is why Santaji Ghorpade is included in the list. Santaji Ghorpade Here is the actual article proving it. Removing.-- Mahensingha (Talk) "Thanx n Regards" 20:21, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Rajput names deleted with malicious intentions

The name of PIRU SINGH SHEKHAWAT has been cut short to PIRU SINGH ---http://www.upscportal.in/param-veer-chakra.pdf here is the UPSC portal his name was PIRU SINGH SHEKHAWAT A KACHWAHA RAJPUT , these vandalism also shows the typical nature of non-rajputs.ABDEVILLIERS0007 (talk) 08:11, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Sitush i dont really understand if you have "BASIC"understanding of CASTE SYSTEM or not because it seems doubtful that you are INDIAN OR HINDU, it will be better that you dont edit names without any knowledge. In modern day india , no NEWS ARTICLE will dare to term them RAJPUTS as this will create "POLITICAL TROUBLES" this thing was done in past as well. Shivaji was always considered RAJPUT but with "LATE BAKHARS" and then "DALIT MOVEMENT" started to claim him as a lower caste(even though none of them will say this in front of Shivaji family) this is all indian politics specially post independence where BEING UPPER CASTE IS A SIN.ABDEVILLIERS0007 (talk) 05:50, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:OR and WP:V, stop shouting and stop warring. My nationality and/or religion are of no bearing and your veiled threat is not appreciated. - Sitush (talk) 21:15, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Now what will you say about the source of Jadunath Singh, Shaitan Singh and Milkha Singh, keep your mouth shut as you are only interested in deleting names even without discussing and i know editors like you, most of you are from western countries , having a large number of friends who are ADMIN or MODS and to push through your point you urge your friends to block users. ABDEVILLIERS0007 (talk) 15:03, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]


ADD THE NAME OF BRIG RAJENDRA SINGHJI DOGRA

The man who fought against 30,000 tribal soldiers(many of them were regular pakistani soldiers with disguise) with only 150 soldiers in 1947 in URI cannot be ignored INDIAN ARMY calls this the indian version of 300 VS 1 MILLION. For two days 30,000 tribals supported by heavy firing from pakistani army cannot cross 150 Dogra soldiers at URI.(the bridge was destroyed in fierce fighting).http://www.pranseth.com/Home/chapter-12

The praise by Mountabatten also shows the bravery of this great DOGRA RAJPUT who must be remembered as among the greatest 20th century soldiers. For 2 days he fought against 30,000 tribals(plus the INDIAN MUSLIMS who deserted dogra army and pakistani army). 122.161.70.126 (talk) 12:27, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If you find some decent modern reliable sources then you could create an article for him, perhaps using our WP:AFC facility if you are uncertain of how to begin. If he was indeed a Rajput and that is sourced in your article then, sure, he can be added to this list. I must say that I find your description astonishing: if he did what you say then I would have expected us already to have something about him, so you might also want to check first to see if an article has been created under another name. For example, the "ji" suffix is usually an honorific rather than a part of a person's real name. - Sitush (talk) 17:01, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The article for Rajinder Singh Brigadier is already created. I request to add his name.10:48, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Shivraj Singh Chouhan C.M. Of Madhya Pradesh

Is Shivraj Singh Chouhan C.M. Of Madhya Pradesh, a Rajput. As his caste as referenced Kirar is an Thakur caste and many like Ahir, Jat, Gujjar, they also claim to be Rajput or Kshatriya. Chauhan, Yadav etc. are the surnames used by kirars in Madhya Pradesh. Please clarify? thanxmahensingha 06:52, 23 December 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahensingha (talkcontribs)


Rajput is not a caste, it is only collection of various castes such as sisodia rajputs originates from gujjars, rathores are from south indian low castes, bhati rajputs are from yadav . Rajput is only collection of different sub clans from different castes(similar to maratha , maratha are no caste but include brahmin,kshatriya,vaishya,dalits and tribals)106.208.227.131 (talk) 07:57, 12 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Still, this fact remains fact that Mr. Shivraj Singh Chouhan belongs to "Kirar (Chobdar)" caste group and is an kshatriya Leader. He by no means is a Rajput Leader. No matter how many Rajputs cite his name for their present glorification. Also, i raised this question because none of the similar caste group leaders are included in this list, owing to the discussion going on in the other sections of this page. mahensingha 10:36, 17 May 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahensingha (talkcontribs)

Firstly Rajputs are not a collection of castes, they are a part of kshatriya caste of the Hindu caste system.

Everybody in MP knows this I don't know nobody has yet changed it. Please do so.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.59.223.184 (talk) 11:57, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply] 

Discussion of sourcing

Before we start discussing sources for the edits that I have just reverted, please could people read WP:SOCK and User:Sitush/Common#Castelists. I am very familiar with the way that Indic caste groups try to do their thing here but at the end of the day they usually end up "losing", for want of a better word. It is entirely possible that I have made some mistakes here. It isn't common but I am human and crap happens. Compared to the number of mistakes made by the caste warriors etc, I come out well ahead.

Please can we discuss any concerns one person, one source at a time. That will make life easier for all of us and, in the event that we cannot agree, there is always the dispute resolution process. Most of the issues will probably end up at WP:RSN or WP:BLPN but there are alternatives. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 00:13, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dulla Bhatti is not mentioned here. Rajput334 03:40, 14 September 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajput334 (talkcontribs)
Sitush why did you remove name of Shabbir Sharif from list ? he was real brother of Raheel Sharif. see this leading news paper of pakistan. please don't do things which can't be expected. moreover you can also look over this Urdu biography source which being in urdu may not be appropriate for reference but at least supports the earlier authority of news paper. The Pakistan (talk) 04:31, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with both User:Rajput334 and User:The Pakistan above. and User:Sitush also consider Khudadad Khan mentioned as Rajput over here. a reliable source. Thank you Barrister at Law (talk) 06:17, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Shabbir Sharif is Rajput. The Peaceful Student (talk) 19:06, 17 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Non-English sources are ok but please heed WP:NOENG. They really should only be used if we are unable to find English-language sources, and there are particular problems with many that emanate from Pakistan/India/Bangladesh etc. - Sitush (talk) 14:37, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanx for info The Peaceful Student (talk) 16:28, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Images

The images in the Sports section are a mess. I've never seen anyone attempt to insert images in that way, it is very complex and it is going to cause problems, especially for newcomers. Please can we revert the recent change. - Sitush (talk) 12:22, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Its not a new Idea sir. kindly look at this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Polish_people#Miscellaneous. Rajput334 (talk) 06:06, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It may not be a new idea but that doesn't make it a good idea. There is much on Wikipedia that is absolute rot. - Sitush (talk) 02:00, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mass revert

I may have overstepped the mark with this revert. These lists of alleged caste members are notoriously problematic and, frankly, I've had enough of trying to deal with the intricacies on this particular list right now. Please, do review User:Sitush/Common#Castelists and do note that websites - which are often dodgy at the best of times - are particularly dodgy when those who operate them happen to be aligned with the caste with which they claim a person bears an affiliation. Caste articles on Wikipedia and elsewhere on the internet are absolutely fraught with puffery and while we cannot control what goes on elsewhere we can at least expect a certain standard of verifiability here.

So, if I have unwittingly removed some names that were justifiably listed then I apologise for that and I'd be happy to see them reinstated. To make life easier for all of us, it might be best to reinstate them one at a time and thus avoid a lot of frustration all round. - Sitush (talk) 01:59, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 2 January 2015

born GOTRA in Rajputes. YOGI Caste is born by Gogaji Chauhan.ryn (talk) 13:56, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cannolis (talk) 16:16, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sourcing

May I yet again ask people to review the content at User:Sitush/Common#Castelists. In particular, there has been a considerable edit war over the last few days and some people - at least one of whom I think has a "history" in this regard - simply do not seem to be appreciating what we have to do and why. Unless some sense begins to appear, I will be asking an admin to enforce the sanctions noted at the top of the page and, if necessary, asking for further protection to be applied to the article itself. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 22:07, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 23 May 2015

94.11.36.17 (talk) 20:49, 23 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. --I am k6ka Talk to me! See what I have done 21:18, 23 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 3 July 2015

Jas.rathore (talk) 10:48, 3 July 2015 (UTC) sir i am jasbir singh. sir i have research for rajput king and i have found a famous king who was JAIMAL SINGH RATHORE who had born १५६४ . he was most great warrior of rajput. i can proov it with small story. he was firht with great king akbar for chittor. rana udai singh entrusted chittor to jaimal rathore for save his. rathore have a small solidary. he was not scared and battle with akbar. a time come when akbar scared to jaimal bravery. jaimal have a small solidary and he gave his sacrified.. akbar was so astonished to jaimal bravery and he made a statue of jaimal singh rathore. sir plzz add jaimal singh rathore on list of rajput.[reply]

        thanku
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 12:31, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 25 August 2015

125.209.121.197 (talk) 16:03, 25 August 2015 (UTC) Kanwar kartar sing King of Rajhistan 1475 to 1696. He was king who fought wars against British many times.[reply]

Not done: This is a list of notable Rajputs - where we define notable as having their own Wikipedia article - Kanwar kartar singh (I've tried several different spellings) does not appear to have an article, so cannot be included in the list, until someone writes that article. (According to your dates he was 221 when he died? ) - Arjayay (talk) 16:30, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Subject for in sports

Please add for ajay jadeja and ravindra jadeja he is a rajput Thakur Nitin Chauhan (talk) 16:30, 16 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

And add filmstar in add for thakur anoop Singh and sushant singh rajput and sonal chauhan

Thakur Nitin Chauhan (talk) 16:32, 16 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Vanraj Chavda

Chavdas descent from Chap Gurjar Dynasty and they were not Rajputs. Moreover, as per the wikipedia article on Rajputs, its evident that the Rajput only rose to prominance after the 16th century and hence none of the Rulers prior to this perios should be termed as a Rajput

The Real Rana (talk) 04:48, 26 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-protected edit request on 8 February 2019

Source doesn't say that Dulla Bhatti (under historical figures) was a Rajput. Please remove his name from the list. 2605:3E80:700:10:0:0:0:2E82 (talk) 17:52, 8 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: The article Dulla Bhatti has more detailed reliable refs stating that he was indeed a Rajput. DBigXray 12:06, 10 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 15 May 2020

Chauhry Nisar Ali Khan (Chaudhary Nisar Ali Khan)[1] former Interior Minitser of Pakistan 39.42.147.136 (talk) 19:16, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Nisar's last bet". www.thenews.com.pk. Retrieved 4 December 2017.{{cite news}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sceptre (talk) 01:14, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 May 2020

Ravindra Jadeja (indian cricketer) Shankersinh Vaghela (former CM of Gujarat) Shaktisinh Gohil (Gujarat Politician) Yogi Adityanath (CM of UP) 2405:204:8206:34AD:BCB8:E72:F3C8:430F (talk) 04:51, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Naypta ☺ | ✉ talk page | 09:09, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 September 2020

I want to add few more names.Rajanrao Shankar (talk) 14:47, 5 September 2020 (UTC) Rajanrao Shankar (talk) 14:47, 5 September 2020 (UTC) I can also give reliable sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajanrao Shankar (talkcontribs) 14:50, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You can mention them here on this talk page, citing reliable sources. – Thjarkur (talk) 15:29, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have a source in which Pakistani cricketer Rameez Raja self-identified himself a Rajput but the source requires paid subscription.Rajanrao Shankar (talk)

Which one? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:50, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

== More Protection Required ==

Hello wiki community i think we need More protection For this Page As its been attacked many times by Hate Monger and Caste promoters even on historical subjects. Please add protection where only Admin can edit this page. Its a request.Hardcore Legend Mic Foley (talk) 02:09, 12 December 2020 (UTC) [reply]

Readding Request

Removal of Historic Figure

Hello Fylindfotberserk recently a user agaim removed the image of Prithviraj Chauhan even from List of Rajputs page kindly readd his photo Such things are misguidng at best ,This was well sourced its a request.Hardcore Legend Mic Foley (talk) 01:36, 12 December 2020 (UTC) Also most of the rulers are from 12 th century in this page why remove long standing consensus on This Page Please keep the page in check.Despite the fact that Senior editor Abhishek readd Prithviraj Chauhan.Hardcore Legend Mic Foley (talk) 04:23, 12 December 2020 (UTC) Blocked sock Chariotrider555 (talk) 05:54, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Rajput identity of Prithviraj Chauhan

Prithviraj Chauhan should not be included on this page as a Rajput, as he was classified as a Rajput long after his death. During his lifetime, the Rajput identity did not exist.[1] The source I am citing also talks about Rajputs and how different scholars have viewed their origin. However, this content is later in the book and I am not able to access it. User:Alivardi quoted some of it on Talk:Prithviraj Chauhan:

"I believe the Rāso contributed to the consolidation of an aristocratic Rajput identity beginning in the late sixteenth century. What the term Rajput meant prior to the Mughal period is a contentious issue, for scholars disagree about how far back we can trace the existence of the Rajputs as a community… Brajadulal Chattopadhyaya suggests that rājaputra was applied to a larger group of high-ranking men who also bore titles such as rāuta, rāvala, and rānaka… In contrast, Michael Bednar's examination of inscriptions from western and central India during the eleventh through fourteenth centuries indicates that thakkura, rāuta, and rājaputra were titles of rank that generally denoted official positions and were often not passed on from father to son. Chattopadhyaya may therefore, be somewhat premature in his assertion that Rajput identity existed in the twelfth or thirteenth centuries… Arguing in a different vein than Chattopadhyaya, Dirk H. A. Kolff claims that the label Rajput had previously denoted an open status identity that any successful warrior could acquire. During the Mughal period, however, the Rajputs closed ranks to form an aristocratic class whose membership was strictly circumscribed by birth… In any case, Rajput was not a term that figured in Indo-Persian texts prior to the sixteenth century, according to Peter Jackson, supporting the view that there was some change in the meaning of the term… As Rajput chiefs were increasingly co-opted into the Mughal system, a sharper line was drawn between them and the other, less elite, fighting men of India. One way of doing this was through acknowledging the kshatriya status of Rajputs… The repeated conflation of Rajput with kshatriya hat can be witnessed in Prthvīrāj Rāso is thus part of a larger early modern trend of stressing the elite nature of Rajputs"

If a user who has access to the full book can read through the part about Rajputs and other scholars views on their origin, that would be great, as I am sure it has lots of useful information. Chariotrider555 (talk) 03:04, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The most common reason given by removers is that the Rajput identity did not exist in 12th century citing different sources. So tell me when did the identity came into existence and should we remove everyone before that time. Because, I don't see anybody removing Rawal Jaisal who died even before Prithviraj which makes me doubt the intentions of removers. Please explain Abhishek0831996 (talk) 04:35, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Rajput identity came into existence in the 16th century. [2][3][4][5] The reason no one removed Rawal Jaisal is that since he was such a minor king, there are no sources explicitly saying he was not a Rajput. In fact, when I tried to find some a few days ago, I pretty much couldn't (however, sources kept saying the word "legend" around him). Minor kings like Rawal Jaisal don't attract as much scrutiny from high end scholars the way Prithviraj Chauhan does. Sources make statements about Rajputs in general, and how they originated. They don't go through every single ruler and subclan and say, "Oh yes this dude was Rajput but this dude wasn't." They make statements about the community in general because Rajput is an identity that clans and people joined because it offered them greater status. Anyways, people and clans before the 16th century didn't identify as Rajput. Chariotrider555 (talk) 06:30, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) I have checked the history of this page and came to the conclusion that very few people are involved in adding more and more notable person to this list. Of them Abhishek is a genuine editor but Others who have made a number of edits are blocked for sockpuppetry. Now, once Kautilya3 told me that those who are blocked for sockpuppetry .Their additions are removed en masse from the articles.If this is the rule, then all the addition by sockpuppets shud be removed.Heba Aisha (talk) 06:46, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Cynthia Talbot (2015). The Last Hindu Emperor: Prithviraj Cauhan and the Indian Past, 1200–2000. Cambridge University Press. p. 32-33. ISBN 9781107118560.
  2. ^ Irfan Habib (2002). Essays in Indian History. Anthem Press. p. 90. ISBN 978-1-84331-061-7.
  3. ^ David Ludden (1999). An Agrarian History of South Asia. Cambridge University Press. p. 4. ISBN 978-0-521-36424-9.
  4. ^ Tanuja Kothiyal (2016). Nomadic Narratives: A History of Mobility and Identity in the Great Indian Desert. Cambridge University Press. p. 8-9. ISBN 9781107080317.
  5. ^ Cynthia Talbot (2015). The Last Hindu Emperor: Prithviraj Cauhan and the Indian Past, 1200–2000. Cambridge University Press. p. 119-122. ISBN 9781107118560.

Addition of Names whose articles have already been created in Wikipedia.

1. Kashmir Singh Katoch 2. Janak Singh 3. Anant Singh Pathania 4. Vidyut Jamwal 5. General VK Singh 6. Col. Ranveer Singh Jamwal 7. General Sri Rajendra Singh ji Jadeja 8. Sankay Kumar ( Paramvir Chakra) 11:03, 1 February 2021 (UTC)~