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:::::::Nah, I'll just stick to comparative data tables then. See, this is why I hate taking it to the talk page: people bombarding me with WPs instead of talking like normal humans. How does this even happen? This whole project started as an initiative of common folk, but it ended up with a bureaucracy just as stuffy and suffocating as that of an institution of people in suits. ''You are randos on the internet, stop taking yourselves so seriously.'' I'll see myself out of this thread now, but for the record I do want to add that I apologize for insulting you. I was in a bad head space but I shouldn't take that out on others. [[User:Transylvania1916|Transylvania1916]] ([[User talk:Transylvania1916|talk]]) 09:48, 12 March 2023 (UTC) |
:::::::Nah, I'll just stick to comparative data tables then. See, this is why I hate taking it to the talk page: people bombarding me with WPs instead of talking like normal humans. How does this even happen? This whole project started as an initiative of common folk, but it ended up with a bureaucracy just as stuffy and suffocating as that of an institution of people in suits. ''You are randos on the internet, stop taking yourselves so seriously.'' I'll see myself out of this thread now, but for the record I do want to add that I apologize for insulting you. I was in a bad head space but I shouldn't take that out on others. [[User:Transylvania1916|Transylvania1916]] ([[User talk:Transylvania1916|talk]]) 09:48, 12 March 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::::Apology accepted. I've added A-H's loss of autonomy to the relevant part of the article with the Bassett book as a source. [[User:DeCausa|DeCausa]] ([[User talk:DeCausa|talk]]) 10:25, 12 March 2023 (UTC) |
::::::::Apology accepted. I've added A-H's loss of autonomy to the relevant part of the article with the Bassett book as a source. [[User:DeCausa|DeCausa]] ([[User talk:DeCausa|talk]]) 10:25, 12 March 2023 (UTC) |
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== Heavy Hungaro-centricism == |
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It seems that the whole article was mostly authored by some Hungarians (or friends of Hungary), because it presents extraordinary Hungaro-centricism. I could comment on almost every paragraph of the article, but what shocked me most was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria-Hungary#Electrical_industry_and_electronics which doesn't even mention [[ČKD]] and [[Emil Kolben]]. |
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Capitalize the "m" in "monarchy" in the infobox Youdoitlikethis (talk) 19:01, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: Since monarchy is used as a generic term here, it's not capitalized per Wikipedia:Manual of Style § Proper names versus generic terms. Notice it's not even capitalized in the title of the target article: dual monarchy. --N8wilson 🔔 20:32, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- See also discussion here at recent RM over at Hapsburg monarchy. DeCausa (talk) 21:07, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
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remove semicolon after "Hungary" in Demise... > Territorial Legacy > Present Royal Cannon 2630 (talk) 23:36, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
- Done P1221 (talk) 10:39, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
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It’s Austro-Hungarian, not Austo. I tried to make this edit, and then it locked. Very annoying. 2605:B100:129:1AFF:953A:1FFC:4C6F:1278 (talk) 16:42, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
- Not done for now: I was unable to locate the string "Austo" anywhere in the article. Favonian (talk) 16:50, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
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In the section titled 'Joint government' the word 'matter' should be changed to 'matters' in the sentence 'A common government was also formed for the few matter of common national security - the Common Army, navy, foreign policy and the imperial household, and the customs union'. Orangehaggis (talk) 10:45, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
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@Transylvania1916: Please don't restore this edit again. Gain consensus here first per WP:BRD. DeCausa (talk) 19:05, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- deep sigh Alright, although I am hugely skeptical this will go anywhere, I will give this a chance. Let's start with the basics: seeing that I did my due diligence and brought the required receipts for my edit, why on Earth do I need YOUR consensus?! Transylvania1916 (talk) 08:40, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- To avoid being blocked from this site. WP:ONUS, WP:CONSENSUS, WP:EW. Also read WP:NPA. Carry on calling another editor an insect as you did here will also get you blocked. DeCausa (talk) 09:02, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, uh-uh. Your petty formalities that I hold in contempt aside, what exactly is wrong with my edit/sources? Transylvania1916 (talk) 09:04, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- It's not an improvement. The infobox is already too overcrowded. It's "status" for just the last two year's of A-H's existence isn't worth adding. It's also not a clear-cut fact (which infoboxes are most suited to) it's a judgment. You've put forward no reason for its inclusion other than you want it. DeCausa (talk) 09:16, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- "isn't worth adding" - Why do you get to decide this? Clearly, I think it IS worth adding.
- "It's also not a clear-cut fact" - Do you have any idea how insulting and infuriating this is? There were countries that had the "satellite state" tag in their infoboxes for years, without any cited source following that. I cited a reputable source that not only explicitly calls AH a satellite, but also details why. To reject this, after other countries had this uncited tag for years, is to me the epitomy of double standards. Transylvania1916 (talk) 09:27, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Irrelevant to this article. See WP:OTHERCONTENT. The citation doesn't mean you get to add it - I've already linked to WP:ONUS. If you don't like Wikipedia's policies and how things work here you don't have to edit. DeCausa (talk) 09:35, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Nah, I'll just stick to comparative data tables then. See, this is why I hate taking it to the talk page: people bombarding me with WPs instead of talking like normal humans. How does this even happen? This whole project started as an initiative of common folk, but it ended up with a bureaucracy just as stuffy and suffocating as that of an institution of people in suits. You are randos on the internet, stop taking yourselves so seriously. I'll see myself out of this thread now, but for the record I do want to add that I apologize for insulting you. I was in a bad head space but I shouldn't take that out on others. Transylvania1916 (talk) 09:48, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Apology accepted. I've added A-H's loss of autonomy to the relevant part of the article with the Bassett book as a source. DeCausa (talk) 10:25, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Nah, I'll just stick to comparative data tables then. See, this is why I hate taking it to the talk page: people bombarding me with WPs instead of talking like normal humans. How does this even happen? This whole project started as an initiative of common folk, but it ended up with a bureaucracy just as stuffy and suffocating as that of an institution of people in suits. You are randos on the internet, stop taking yourselves so seriously. I'll see myself out of this thread now, but for the record I do want to add that I apologize for insulting you. I was in a bad head space but I shouldn't take that out on others. Transylvania1916 (talk) 09:48, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Irrelevant to this article. See WP:OTHERCONTENT. The citation doesn't mean you get to add it - I've already linked to WP:ONUS. If you don't like Wikipedia's policies and how things work here you don't have to edit. DeCausa (talk) 09:35, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- It's not an improvement. The infobox is already too overcrowded. It's "status" for just the last two year's of A-H's existence isn't worth adding. It's also not a clear-cut fact (which infoboxes are most suited to) it's a judgment. You've put forward no reason for its inclusion other than you want it. DeCausa (talk) 09:16, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, uh-uh. Your petty formalities that I hold in contempt aside, what exactly is wrong with my edit/sources? Transylvania1916 (talk) 09:04, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- To avoid being blocked from this site. WP:ONUS, WP:CONSENSUS, WP:EW. Also read WP:NPA. Carry on calling another editor an insect as you did here will also get you blocked. DeCausa (talk) 09:02, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
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