Talk:Chrysler

Including alfa romeo and Fiat brands to chrysler current brands.

The Mopar site, Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep and Ram sites include alfa romeo and fiat as sister brands, the argument for these being removed was that fca spa still owns the trademarks, but Fca spa and fca usa are fully merged with PSA under stellantis nv, and the US operations of stellantis recognize these brands under the same umbrella as the Former Chrysler/mopar brands as stellantis usa and the former fca-us are still referred to as CHRYSLER. and alfa romeo uses a ton of chrysler switch gear and its engines are cast alongside the chrysler engines. Maserati is the only brand not included and thats because its seperated as the Maserati SpA. and Maserati North america Subsidaries. So if these brands are referred to as Sister brands to the former chrysler brands and use the same warranty site, then they should be included. Another reference for my argument is the example written under the trade mark area on the alfa website------These objects may not be copied for commercial use or distribution. Unless otherwise indicated, all marks displayed on FCA US LLC Internet sites are subject to the trademark rights of FCA US LLC, including each of FCA US LLC's primary brands (Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep®, Ram, Mopar®, SRT®, ALFA ROMEO and FIAT® ), its model nameplates, and its corporate logos and emblems.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dartman2020 (talk • contribs) 21:54, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

--Dartman2020 (talk) 21:58, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

https://media.stellantisnorthamerica.com/page.do?file=legal "Unless otherwise indicated, all marks displayed on Stellantis Internet sites are subject to the trademark rights of Stellantis, including each of Chrysler's brands (Chrysler®, Dodge®, Jeep®, Ram®, SRT® and Mopar), its model name plates, and its corporate logos, emblems and slogans. FIAT is a registered trademark of Fiat Group Marketing & Corporate Communication SpA, used under license by Chrysler Group LLC."

I'm not sure where you got the bold text above, but on alfaromeousa.com, it states "Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, Ram, Wagoneer, Mopar and SRT are registered trademarks of FCA US LLC. ALFA ROMEO and FIAT are registered trademarks of FCA Group Marketing S.p.A., used with permission."

Even if the Fiat and Alfa Romeo brands are available in North America, or they are included on media.stellantisnorthamerica.com, it doesn't mean that they are owned by or a subsidiary of FCA US, and being "sister brands" does not make them the same as the brands owned by FCA US. The fact that Jeep models are sold in Italy (and built in Italy, in the case of the Renegade) does not mean that Jeep should be considered one of the brands of FCA Italy/FCA S.p.A., or the former Fiat Group. Hope this makes sense. --Vossanova ^o< 23:24, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Article issues.

Grettings, I have briefly gone over aspects of the article specifically dealing with issues and classification.

• There are several citation tags, "Citation needed" (Aug 2012), "Verification needed" (April 2014), "Citation needed" (July 2015), "Citation needed" (October 2017), "Citation needed" (multiple-- Sept 2022)
• There are sentences, paragraphs, and entire subsections under the "Chrysler brand" section that are unsourced.
• The "corporate governance" ("Management team" subsection), is unnecessary bloat.
• There is far, far, (did I mention "far") too much-unsourced content.
• Leaving the "Environmental initiatives" section, with the last mention of "model years 2012–2021", then going into a nostalgic time warp back to 1940 in the unsourced "Chrysler Defense" section is not evidence of being "well-written".
• Eight entries in the "External links" section is link farmimg.

Conclusion

This article has not had a legitimate claim to sport a B-classficication since 2012. Among the criteria is: #1)- The article is suitably referenced, with inline citations., and #2)- The article is reasonably well-written. -- Otr500 (talk) 13:07, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 7 August 2023

Chrysler → Stellantis North America – chrysler is currently only an automobile brand, not a company Michael H (talk) 16:31, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose For basically the exact same reasons as the 2016 and 2018 move requests [1] [2]. The article is about Chrysler the topic and the organization from it's inception nearly 100 years ago and "Chrysler" is the common name. This article includes the time as an independent company as well as the DC and Chrysler-Cerberus time, basically all the pre-FIAT/pre-Stellantis time which was the majority of the history of the organization. Chrysler is the common name and the name people are most likely to search for. Chrysler, not Stellantis is the name of the defense contractor that designed the M1 Abrams tank and the prime contractor for the Saturn IB rocket. Stellantis NA should be reserved for discussions that are specific to the the parent of the Chrysler brand. Springee (talk) 18:01, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose move per Springee. The common name remains Chrysler. O.N.R. ^(talk) 22:11, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME 2601:204:C901:B740:5C88:7DD8:3C75:575A (talk) 15:28, 9 August 2023 (UTC)