Talk:Friedrich Nietzsche

Relationship with Paul Rée and Lou Salomé

Academic consensus suggests the narrative of Nietzsche, Rée, and Salomé's relationship as represented on the Wikipedia page is not accurate.

Please see: Frau Lou - Rudolph Binion (1968) Nietzsche: Philosopher, Psychologist, Antichrist - Walter Kaufmann (4th edition, 2013)

R.J Hollingdale's account of Nietzsche’s relationships to Lou Salomé and Paul Rée is dated by Binion’s book. He has been cited numerous times on the wiki page. The information has been proven incorrect for a variety of reasons.

Robert S. Leventhal is also cited, providing misleading information that Nietzsche proposed to Salomé three times. How is this webpage a credible source to begin with? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jakemichaelw (talk • contribs) 02:25, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Wow!

That's a really super portrait of Nietzsche! Kudos to whoever uploaded it!

SpicyMemes123 (talk) 21:00, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

It was User:Anton~commonswiki, on 3 April 2005. He was looking the other way in those days. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:19, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Influences and Influenced

I removed the Influences and Influenced lists from the infobox. Many of the names listed were not, as per the editing note at the beginning of the lists, “explained and cited in the body of the article.”

The main influences and those influenced are in the body of the article in sections such as the lead, Friedrich Nietzsche#Reading and influence and Friedrich Nietzsche#Reception and legacy. Many of the names in the lists could not be verified as either influences or influenced: WP:VERIFY states that “All material in Wikipedia mainspace, including everything in articles, lists, and captions, must be verifiable.”

As so many people have read and been influenced by Nietzsche, compiling a list of those he has influenced is a gargantuan task. By what criteria do we decide who belongs on such a list? How do we gauge who was most strongly influenced and who was only mildly influenced? As the lists has strayed so far from the original intent, it’s best to leave the influences and influenced to names mentioned in the body of the article and remove them from the infobox. - cheers - Epinoia (talk) 14:20, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Can it be rephrased?

As someone who isn't an English native speaker, I find it hard to understand the following sentence and even translate it

"It does so by making out slave weakness, for example, to be a matter of choice, by relabeling it as "meekness".

For example the phrase "making out" has a lot of different meanings. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.22.160.62 (talk • contribs) 15:06, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Why are we prioritizing interpretations over original source

Why are we prioritizing interpretations over original source?

There is overwhelming German propaganda on this article with centuries old anti-Slavic, anti-Polish, antisemitic "interpretations" vs original source reporting of history.

The language on this article in English is grossly biased and the German article even more so. 2A00:F41:48B4:2642:3D97:825E:2564:EFA1 (talk) 16:43, 21 October 2023 (UTC)