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Just wanted to point out that you hid the edit summary and username of a recent edit to [[WP:WPDAB]] but the username in question is still visible in ''your'' edit summary of the reversion! The username seems relatively innocuous on its own, but of course I can't see the content of their edit. [[User:Rosbif73|Rosbif73]] ([[User talk:Rosbif73|talk]]) 08:59, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
Just wanted to point out that you hid the edit summary and username of a recent edit to [[WP:WPDAB]] but the username in question is still visible in ''your'' edit summary of the reversion! The username seems relatively innocuous on its own, but of course I can't see the content of their edit. [[User:Rosbif73|Rosbif73]] ([[User talk:Rosbif73|talk]]) 08:59, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

== Creation of new category ==

Creation of new category
If we look at [[:Category:Companies by stock market index]], most of the world's major indices are listed, except for the MOEX. Could you add this? [[Special:Contributions/92.71.60.61|92.71.60.61]] ([[User talk:92.71.60.61|talk]]) 09:07, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

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I thought I could follow up on Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_200#Hide_an_image. I was able to eventually use the hiding images an article, Help:Options_to_hide_an_image#Disable_images_on_specific_pages. Before, I was trying to use the "hiding bad images" coding from User:Mr.Z-man/badimages, but I found it no longer works. Cwater1 (talk) 15:44, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Is this offensive? Alternatively, was the person caricatured offensive? You decide
@Cwater1: Then you need to take it up with Mr.Z-man (talk · contribs) - I do not (indeed cannot) maintain other people's scripts. Indeed, what some people find "offensive", may not be thought as such by others. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 17:45, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I see your point. I don't consider that picture offensive. Sorry for bugging you in the beginning and now. Everyone has different opinions. My opinion is that looks interesting. Hope you have a great day/night and I wish you happy editing. I do enjoy Wikipedia. Nothing is stopping me from enjoying it. Cwater1 (talk) 02:40, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Short description helper, GCR Class 9K

That's an automated function in WP:SDHELPER, primarily for groups of years (e.g. 1890–1942) that might reasonably be in biographical descriptions. I did not intend that to trigger and am not sure how to bypass it for specialty cases like short descriptions of locomotives. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 07:48, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Sammi Brie: Where did you get 4–4-2T (with one en-dash and one hyphen) from? It certainly does not occur in the article; however, 4-4-2T (with two hyphens) does, in the infobox and also the first sentence (to name just two places) - you could have copied one of those. Please note that the use of automated scripts does not absolve you of the responsibility for ensuring that your edit was correct. Whilst WP:PREVIEW is not much use for shortdescs, you can still use the Show changes feature. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 17:27, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I typed "4-4-2" originally. There is text handling code that turns it into "4–4-2"—and that happens after you hit Submit, so that the end user has no final control over this (there's not even an option to force showing the preview). Searching DATEREPLACEMENT in MediaWiki:Gadget-Shortdesc-helper.js will show you the code in question. I'm going to put a note pointing here from Wikipedia talk:Shortdesc helper as well. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 21:02, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Sammi Brie: You did it again, here. If a script is buggy, which this one clearly is, report the problem to the script maintainers but more importantly, review every edit that you make to ensure that it is valid. If you cannot even do that, stop using the script until it is fixed. Don't continue to leave a mess for other people to find. We should not have to clean up after your bad edits, script or no script. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:19, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I tried to mitigate the issue by initially adding slashes to escape. My mistake, and what I had intended to do but didn't, was edit manually instead of using the helper. My apologies. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 22:34, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Request for advice - user not using citation templates

Hi Redrose,

I’ve been noticing over the last month or so that one specific IP user has been adding info to articles with citations that either consist of nothing but a bare URL, or a bare URL with a very short “summary” title, which then doesn’t allow tools such as ReFill to operate. I’ve left numerous notes on their talk page, but they haven’t responded to any… is this something I should take further or is there nothing that can really be done?

As an example: Diff. Danners430 (talk) 19:53, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Danners430: It's not a crime. If the URL leads directly to a page that supports the material that was added, then WP:V is being observed and we can't complain about that. For newly-added refs, WP:CITEVAR is a useful guideline, but not an enforceable policy. If the IP was altering existing templated refs to bare URLs, that would be a different matter. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:20, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That makes sense - just annoying that it's creating work for other editors to tidy up the refs they're adding Danners430 (talk) 20:22, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Upwell to Wisbech Tram Line

Dear Redrose64, You sent me a message drawing my attention to the wikipedia guidelines. I have just joined. I see that you edited out my contribution to the page relating to the Upwell to Wisbech Tramline memento project. Not quite sure why. I thought that as the page was to enlighten enthusiasts about the tramline that reference to this project for documenting and recording the history of the line on site would be of interest. The connection seemed appropriate. However if I have been mistaken in this respect or not followed protocol I apologise. No disrespect was intended. I do think that as the page appeared to be considered low importance that whatever can be added to encourage greater interest would be worthwhile. I am a supporter of the project and do what I can to assist educating people about the history of the Tram Line and its importance locally.If you have any suggestions for improving and elevating interest and awareness please share. I want to help. Cameron Spade (talk) 09:44, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

North Eastern Railway

per our chat at the Oxford meetup, the North Eastern Railway (United Kingdom) article has a couple of statements that need verification/ attribution. Awkward42 (talk) [the alternate account of Thryduulf (talk)] 16:06, 15 October 2023 (UTC) Awkward42 (talk) [the alternate account of Thryduulf (talk)] 16:06, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A tag has been placed on Category:Future-Class Canada-related articles indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz Read! Talk! 23:59, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Apologia

I apologize for breaking the RfC that happened earlier; that wasn't my intention. I just didn't know how to get the description to show up without resetting the RfC, which later turned out to be a mistake, my bad.

I asked for help in the now ongoing Teahouse about it. I will look forward to additional help regarding RfCs in the future, thank you. PHShanghai | they/them (talk) 10:24, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@PHShanghai: See WP:RFCST, where it says If you amend the RfC statement (including the addition of another RfC category), Legobot will copy the amended version to the RfC listings the next time that it runs. Normally, it runs at one minute past each hour. I have also posted at Wikipedia:Teahouse#RfC sentence bug. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:36, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:Editnotices/Page/World War II

Template:Editnotices/Page/World War II has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. You added a notice to the editnotice, so I thought I'd inform you. -- 65.92.244.127 (talk) 05:52, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Operation Gideon (2020) Move request draft

In case you don't get the ping (I don't trust those thingies :) Talk:Operation Gideon (2020)#Request for independent feedback on Requested move draft. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:46, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I got it alright. I just wasn't online at the time; I was at work until 17:30 (UTC). --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:12, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A category or categories you have created have been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 26 § Category:Wikipedia XX-Class level-n vital articles on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Qwerfjkltalk 14:47, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you and apology

Thank you for sorting out the references on the LSWR G16 class and LSWR H16 class pages - I have now read Wikipedia:CITEVAR and realise that I was wrong to alter the format. Whilst learning how to edit, I have realised how many articles are really weak in the citation / reference area, so whenever I'm reading something that I think could be a useful source, I'm trying to add it to the relevant article. However, I'm also learning that there seem to be almost as many different ways of citing references as there are articles! In this case, I was struggling to work out how to add a new one without breaking the existing ones, so I ended up changing the format of all (but was careful to leave the list intact). Cheers, ~~~~ Mwsmith20 (talk) 09:49, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Smiley You're welcome! --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 10:21, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:WikiProject Basque/doc

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Oil Firing Tyseley

The article featuring the interview stated that one of Tyseley's engines is possibly going to be oil converted. There may be other great western engines preserved but no heritage railways are looking at having any of their great western locos converted to oil firing, Tyseley is a train operating company and Michael Whitehouse did say one of their mainline engines is possibly going to be converted so it narrows it down to either: 5043, 5080, 7029 or 4965. It doesn't say which one it will be but it does state that it will be a Tyseley resident & would be cheaper to do than overhauling Kolhapur.

The reference is genuine so leave it. 77.99.3.107 (talk) 19:55, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your use of the word "possibly" (twice) is what we call a red flag; you're deep into WP:CRYSTAL territory. Unless the source explicitly states that 4965 (for example) has been selected for conversion, it doesn't belong on the article GWR 4900 Class 4965 Rood Ashton Hall. Similarly, unless the source explicitly states that a Castle (for example) definitely will be converted, it doesn't belong on the article GWR 4073 Class. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:59, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If and when they do actually convert a preserved GWR steam engine to burn oil, a new section in article GWR oil burning steam locomotives would also be appropriate. -- Verbarson  talkedits 21:35, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Template categories

Thanks for putting me straight about the correct place for template categories. The reason I put them in the wrong place was that I copied the way that {{GWR absorbed locos 1922 on}} did it. I have now changed that template to do it the right way (though the entry has yet to reappear on Category:Great Western Railway locomotives) -- Verbarson  talkedits 21:31, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Verbarson: Template:GWR absorbed locos 1922 on has inline documentation, not a separate doc page. You can tell because the {{documentation}} has a |content= parameter. See WP:CAT#T and WP:DOC. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:28, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Changes reverted. Thanks again! -- Verbarson  talkedits 22:37, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You reformatted the notes on this article. I have been doing work on the table to reduce its width and improve its conformance with policy, but had balked at doing the notes until this weekend. You've beaten me to it! Thanks. Bazza (talk) 09:27, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Bazza 7: There were three different, incompatible, systems all going on at once. (i) use <ref>...</ref> to drop the note among the references - easiest, but not ideal where there are more than one or two; (ii) {{ref label}}/{{note label}} - not only is it complicated to implement, this was deprecated way back in 2006; (iii) {{notetag}}/{{notefoot}} - used similarly to {{efn}}/{{notelist}}, but the superscript markers look like this:[note 1] although the matching entries in the note list are plain numbers; this can also be confusing since they look like entries in the ref list. The advantage of {{efn}}/{{notelist}} over the third one is that the superscript markers look like this:[a] and the matching entries in the note list are the same letters. It's also narrower, if table width is your concern. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:28, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have no problem with your edit and comment on Talk:Vehicle dweller, but it also seems rather harmless, and is part of the script at User:SD0001/easy-merge. I'm not sure that it's a problem worth solving. Klbrain (talk) 20:50, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Klbrain: I often see people setting an explicit value for |class= when there really is no need, because the template (and more recently, the module) will autodetect several of the values, including redirect. It's normally only necessary for actual articles and featured content. See also User talk:Enterprisey#Removing class=redirect. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:36, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redacted username on WP:WPDAB

Just wanted to point out that you hid the edit summary and username of a recent edit to WP:WPDAB but the username in question is still visible in your edit summary of the reversion! The username seems relatively innocuous on its own, but of course I can't see the content of their edit. Rosbif73 (talk) 08:59, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Creation of new category

Creation of new category If we look at Category:Companies by stock market index, most of the world's major indices are listed, except for the MOEX. Could you add this? 92.71.60.61 (talk) 09:07, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]