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::Concerning {{tq|it sounds like prose}} I don't think that's the right word, as all of the text in the prose is [[prose]]. As far as "semi-legendary" I'm not sure if that's the right word to use or not but it's not an oxymoron, as it's being used to describe a person where there is agreement among scholars that the person existed, but a lot or most of what is known of them is attested in [[legends]] (hence semi-legendary, what we know is a mix of what scholars consider both legend and historically accurate). This is similar to how [[Ragnar Lodbrok]] is semi-legendary, contrasted to [[Sveigðir]] who is considered fully legendary, and [[Sweyn Forkbeard]] whose historicity is not in any serious dispute. - [[User:Aoidh|Aoidh]] ([[User talk:Aoidh|talk]]) 03:19, 12 November 2023 (UTC) |
::Concerning {{tq|it sounds like prose}} I don't think that's the right word, as all of the text in the prose is [[prose]]. As far as "semi-legendary" I'm not sure if that's the right word to use or not but it's not an oxymoron, as it's being used to describe a person where there is agreement among scholars that the person existed, but a lot or most of what is known of them is attested in [[legends]] (hence semi-legendary, what we know is a mix of what scholars consider both legend and historically accurate). This is similar to how [[Ragnar Lodbrok]] is semi-legendary, contrasted to [[Sveigðir]] who is considered fully legendary, and [[Sweyn Forkbeard]] whose historicity is not in any serious dispute. - [[User:Aoidh|Aoidh]] ([[User talk:Aoidh|talk]]) 03:19, 12 November 2023 (UTC) |
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:::My bad, I meant ''creative'' prose, as in non-encyclopedic, creative writing. [[User:Actualcpscm|Actualcpscm]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Actualcpscm|scrutinize]], [[User talk:Actualcpscm#top|talk]]</sup> 14:57, 13 November 2023 (UTC) |
:::My bad, I meant ''creative'' prose, as in non-encyclopedic, creative writing. [[User:Actualcpscm|Actualcpscm]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Actualcpscm|scrutinize]], [[User talk:Actualcpscm#top|talk]]</sup> 14:57, 13 November 2023 (UTC) |
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:I also was confused by the term "semi-legendary", but this is a matter of English usage. There are ways of conveying uncertainty without using this term. Accordingly, I modified the lede slightly to eliminate the term. Respectfully [[User:Janopus|Tachyon]] ([[User talk:Janopus|talk]]) 13:09, 8 April 2024 (UTC) |
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Would like to add History section
Kalaripayattu was taught in North Asia during the Sangha period.
The Tamil Sangam literature, 2nd century BC to 2nd century CE, introduced Kalari to China where it evolved into modern day Kung Fu and later into Karate in Japan. The Tamil Sangam literature , 2nd century BC to 2nd century CE, mentions the Akananuru and Purananuru martial arts of ancient Tamilakkam, including one - to - one combat, as well as the use of spears , swords, shields, bows and silambam. Vajra Mushti, a grappling style, is mentioned in sources of the early centuries CE l.[1][2][3][4][5][6] Glandmos (talk) 11:32, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
References
- ^ https://books.google.co.in/books?id=ROePWIBgyv8C&pg=PA350&dq=bodhidharma+kalari&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj8tbeb18n9AhULTmwGHZ5CA344HhDoAXoECAgQAw#v=onepage&q=bodhidharma%20kalari&f=false
- ^ https://books.google.co.in/books?id=2V4oDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT18&dq=bodhidharma+kalari&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiA6PHn3cn9AhVuSWwGHcnfCE44ChDoAXoECAkQAw#v=onepage&q=bodhidharma%20kalari&f=false
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- ^ https://books.google.co.in/books?id=ZN02DwAAQBAJ&pg=PT163&dq=bodhidharma+kalaripayattu&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiTiNzu3sn9AhVYVmwGHXaQC-I4FBDoAXoECAkQAw#v=onepage&q=bodhidharma%20kalaripayattu&f=false
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Not done: I think this suggestion was meant for a different article. Actualcpscm (talk) 22:23, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Bodhidharma brought what became Kung Fu. No mention of Prajnatara Maestonelake (talk) 05:54, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
What does "semi-legendary" mean?
That term is used in the lead sentence, but it's unclear to me what it means or how it's sourced. It sounds like prose and seem inappropriate for Wikipedia. Could someone clarify / tell me if I'm missing something? Actualcpscm (talk) 22:25, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- same thing, came here to start discussion on it.
- word semi legendary is like 'semi-existence' , which is an oxymoron, which is used to dilute his historical background. Afv12e (talk) 19:50, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
- Concerning
it sounds like prose
I don't think that's the right word, as all of the text in the prose is prose. As far as "semi-legendary" I'm not sure if that's the right word to use or not but it's not an oxymoron, as it's being used to describe a person where there is agreement among scholars that the person existed, but a lot or most of what is known of them is attested in legends (hence semi-legendary, what we know is a mix of what scholars consider both legend and historically accurate). This is similar to how Ragnar Lodbrok is semi-legendary, contrasted to Sveigðir who is considered fully legendary, and Sweyn Forkbeard whose historicity is not in any serious dispute. - Aoidh (talk) 03:19, 12 November 2023 (UTC)- My bad, I meant creative prose, as in non-encyclopedic, creative writing. Actualcpscm scrutinize, talk 14:57, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
- Concerning
- I also was confused by the term "semi-legendary", but this is a matter of English usage. There are ways of conveying uncertainty without using this term. Accordingly, I modified the lede slightly to eliminate the term. Respectfully Tachyon (talk) 13:09, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
Untrue Information Can’t be Edited???
Neither Bodhidharma or Buddhism are Persian. The Bodhidharma and Buddhism come from India. Maestonelake (talk) 05:38, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
Martial Arts
There is missing information here regarding martial arts. What eventually became Kung Fu came from Bodhidharma. No mention of Prajnatara. Maestonelake (talk) 05:52, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
- The article addresses the martial arts aspect in the second sentence of the article, and expands upon it throughout the article including in the section Shaolin boxing and The Record of the Buddhist Monasteries of Luoyang. Prajnatara is directly mentioned in the article in the section Anthology of the Patriarchal Hall as well as Name and Continuous lineage from Gautama Buddha. - Aoidh (talk) 14:02, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
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Request for editing to include latest updates. KKWIKIID (talk) 06:31, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone may add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. Cannolis (talk) 06:42, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
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