Talk:Stevie Wonder: Difference between revisions

Content deleted Content added

Inline

Revision as of 13:56, 15 May 2024

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Stevie Wonder article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: 1, 2, 3: 30 days

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Biography: Musicians

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by WikiProject Musicians (assessed as Top-importance).

R&B and Soul Music Top‑importance

	R&B and Soul Music portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject R&B and Soul Music, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of R&B and Soul Music articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.R&B and Soul MusicWikipedia:WikiProject R&B and Soul MusicTemplate:WikiProject R&B and Soul MusicR&B and Soul Music articles
Top	This article has been rated as Top-importance on the project's importance scale.

Michigan High‑importance

	Michigan portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Michigan, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the U.S. state of Michigan on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.MichiganWikipedia:WikiProject MichiganTemplate:WikiProject MichiganMichigan articles
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

Pop music High‑importance

	Pop music portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Pop music, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of articles related to pop music on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Pop musicWikipedia:WikiProject Pop musicTemplate:WikiProject Pop musicPop music articles
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

Veganism and Vegetarianism Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Veganism and Vegetarianism, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of veganism and vegetarianism on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Veganism and VegetarianismWikipedia:WikiProject Veganism and VegetarianismTemplate:WikiProject Veganism and VegetarianismVeganism and Vegetarianism articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Disability

Stevie Wonder is within the scope of WikiProject Disability. For more information, visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.DisabilityWikipedia:WikiProject DisabilityTemplate:WikiProject DisabilityDisability articles

Daily pageviews of this article

A graph should have been displayed here but graphs are temporarily disabled. Until they are enabled again, visit the interactive graph at pageviews.wmcloud.org

Retinopathy of prematurity

The issue at hand is not the retinal detachment, it is typically scarring and oxidative damage caused by the excess generation of free oxygen radicals. Yes, retina detachment can occur but it is a possible outcome, not the primary one. The text should simply say- he was blind due to ROP. The added detail of "retinal detachment" adds unnecessary confusion. If necessary it could say, because of excess oxygen provided at birth, but the retinal detachment is unnecessary and potentially misleading.

This can be cross-referenced against the page it is linked to.

Citizenship

Wonder's Ghanaian citizenship does not belong in the lede. If this were the case, why is Tom Hanks not referred to as an "American-Greek" actor? Thanks. dekema (Formerly Buffaboy) (talk) 14:55, 14 May 2024 (UTC) dekema (Formerly Buffaboy) (talk) 14:55, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like a very similar case. Do we have any statement by Wonder saying that his Ghanaian citizenship is of less importance to him than his American one? I'm assuming only he could really make that judgement. Perhaps he hasn't had time to make any statement on it yet. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:06, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

His citizenship should not reflect what he is. He is not Ghanaian. This is a misrepresentation for those who are of actual Ghanaian heritage. 58.69.9.90 (talk) 02:54, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Citizenship =/= ethnicity. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:50, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is just "something else doesn't exist, therefore, this shouldn't exist" which is a very weak argument at best. Do you have any guidance from the MOS? To my knowledge, this is only discussed at MOS:DUALNATIONALITIES. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:50, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think we need to reference the MoS. This is common sense... has he stated that his Ghanaian citizenship is equal to his American one? dekema (Formerly Buffaboy) (talk) 04:38, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Has he stated it? what? Who states that? @Dekema: Please undo your edit, as it is sourced. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:42, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The MOS advice is about punctuation, not whether or not dual nationality should always appear in the lead section? But one could argue that it's a simple fact that should be summarised in the lead. Unless Wonder himself makes a statement, it seems fair to assume that he sees them as equally important. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:04, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Then let's go ahead and add it to every celebrity who has a second citizenship. I think this is a bit petty to be honest. Natalie Portman was born in Israel. Do we call her "American-Israeli?" dekema (Formerly Buffaboy) (talk) 13:52, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 15 May 2024

It is requested that an edit be made to the semi-protected article at Stevie Wonder. (edit · history · last · links · protection log)

This template must be followed by a complete and specific description of the request, that is, specify what text should be removed and a verbatim copy of the text that should replace it. "Please change X" is not acceptable and will be rejected; the request must be of the form "please change X to Y".

The edit may be made by any autoconfirmed user. Remember to change the |answered=no parameter to "yes" when the request has been accepted, rejected or on hold awaiting user input. This is so that inactive or completed requests don't needlessly fill up the edit requests category. You may also wish to use the {{ESp}} template in the response. To request that a page be protected or unprotected, make a protection request.

‹ The template Edit semi-protected is being considered for merging. ›

change Stevie Wonder is a American Ghanaian to Stevie Wonder is an American.

Him receiving citizenship can be notated on the side like it is for Christopher Bridges, but categorizing him as a American Ghanaian is misrepresentation for those who actually have Ghanaian and American heritage, in which Stevie Wonder does not. He is of Black American lineage 58.69.9.90 (talk) 03:03, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging @Koavf who just made this change. Jamedeus (talk) 03:31, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have no clue what you are talking about. If someone gets Ghanaian citizenship, he is Ghanaian. If someone's ancestors are from Ghana but he is not, he is ethnically Ghanaian. W. E. B. du Bois is Ghanaian, Stevie Wonder is Ghanaian, lots of persons are Ghanaian and them being Ghanaian in no way disenfranchises someone else from having that nationality. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:48, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I agree. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:06, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@@ Line 37: / Line 37: @@
 :::Has he stated it? what? Who states that? {{Ping|Dekema}} Please undo your edit, as it is sourced. ―[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''<span style="color:black">v</span>f</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:42, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
 :::The MOS advice is about punctuation, not whether or not dual nationality should always appear in the lead section? But one could argue that it's a simple fact that should be summarised in the lead. Unless Wonder himself makes a statement, it seems fair to assume that he sees them as equally important. [[User:Martinevans123|Martinevans123]] ([[User talk:Martinevans123|talk]]) 07:04, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
-::::Then let's go ahead and add it to every celebrity who has a second citizenship. I think this is a bit petty to be honest. Natalie Portman was born in Israel. Do we call her "American-Israeli?" [[User:Dekema|<span style="font-weight: bold; color: #003AC9;">dekema</span>]] (Formerly Buffaboy) ([[User talk:Buffaboy|talk]]) 13:52, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
+::::Then let's go ahead and add it to every celebrity who has a second citizenship. I think this is a bit petty to be honest. [[Natalie Portman]] was born in Israel. Do we call her "American-Israeli?" [[User:Dekema|<span style="font-weight: bold; color: #003AC9;">dekema</span>]] (Formerly Buffaboy) ([[User talk:Buffaboy|talk]]) 13:52, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
 == Semi-protected edit request on 15 May 2024 ==