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:::These are the things which countries ALL have, Einstein. Now, do you have an actual argument, or do you just have more irrelevant word salad? [[User:FillsHerTease|FillsHerTease]] ([[User talk:FillsHerTease|talk]]) 20:47, 22 May 2024 (UTC) |
:::These are the things which countries ALL have, Einstein. Now, do you have an actual argument, or do you just have more irrelevant word salad? [[User:FillsHerTease|FillsHerTease]] ([[User talk:FillsHerTease|talk]]) 20:47, 22 May 2024 (UTC) |
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::::Please try to be civil. And note, this has been discussed many times before and the consensus seems to be as the wording is now. [[User:Tony Holkham|<b><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;color:#000000">Tony Holkham</span></b>]] [[User talk:Tony Holkham|''<b><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;color:#008080">(Talk)</span></b>'']] 20:52, 22 May 2024 (UTC) |
::::Please try to be civil. And note, this has been discussed many times before and the consensus seems to be as the wording is now. [[User:Tony Holkham|<b><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;color:#000000">Tony Holkham</span></b>]] [[User talk:Tony Holkham|''<b><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;color:#008080">(Talk)</span></b>'']] 20:52, 22 May 2024 (UTC) |
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::::Dude, you're pathetic, besides being an idiot and imbecile, you're inviting offense, come on, offend me and I'll report you right now, are listening to me, Mr.Bright? [[Special:Contributions/177.105.90.20|177.105.90.20]] ([[User talk:177.105.90.20|talk]]) 20:54, 22 May 2024 (UTC) |
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Is there a reason why this page has neither the HDI nor Gini of England listed? All other UK nation pages ([[Scotland]], [[Wales]], [[United Kingdom]] etc) have them. [[Special:Contributions/92.15.85.19|92.15.85.19]] ([[User talk:92.15.85.19|talk]]) 15:05, 7 May 2024 (UTC) |
Is there a reason why this page has neither the HDI nor Gini of England listed? All other UK nation pages ([[Scotland]], [[Wales]], [[United Kingdom]] etc) have them. [[Special:Contributions/92.15.85.19|92.15.85.19]] ([[User talk:92.15.85.19|talk]]) 15:05, 7 May 2024 (UTC) |
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English wine
Could English wine be added under cuisine? It's a growing sector and English sparkling wines are in demand. Englandsupport4 (talk) 02:49, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- Do we need to reply to a banned sock? Although they may have a point about English sparkling wine. KJP1 (talk) 16:56, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- I have created an article Food and drink industry in England that explains this areas in detail and the Economy of England article also makes a brief reference to this.
- I have also been keeping an eye on this article and the two article mentioned above as there is an issue with sockpuppets usually from one account making edits and impersonating other users. ChefBear01 (talk) 17:18, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
Royal Navy
In the Union with Scotland section it states that the Royal Navy created the largest MERCHANT fleet- surely that is wrong ? IceDragon64 (talk) 02:31, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
Country, State or Nation?
This helpful article helped me understand the difference between a Country, State and Nation. I note the confusion of different interpretations of each word. However I would argue the introduction of this article should read "England is a nation that is part of the United Kingdom". This would better agree with the wiki definitions of Country, Nation and State (polity). Ssojjoss (talk) 19:46, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- You can find academic sources at Countries of the United Kingdom. Moxy🍁 00:46, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Nope, there are no academic sources which support the claim that England is a country. In the meantime, the United Nations does NOT recognise England as a country, nor does England meet the definition of a country in the various dictionaries, which invariably refer to an area of land which has its own government, something which England does not have. Texas used to be a country, still has its own government though, and is clearly closer to the definition of country than England is, as are the other 49 states, and all the states in Australia. England is more like a state of the United Kingdom, but it doesn't even rise to that level, because once again it doesn't have its own government. England is more like a group of provinces of the United Kingdom than anything else! It certainly isn't a country... FillsHerTease (talk) 20:42, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- It should be definitely be changed, because England is NOT a country. There is no basis whatsoever on which it can be called a country. It doesn't have it's own government. It doesn't have passports. It doesn't have ANYTHING that an actual country has. Not to mention the fact that it is part of a ... drum roll please ... country called The United Kingdom. I'm sure people call it a country simply because it was, at one stage, and for many hundreds of years. Anyone who says it is a country needs to explain why England is a country but Texas is not, considering that, unlike England, Texas DOES have a government, and even its own Constitution. However it isn't a country, despite the fact that it was one at one stage, because it is part of another country, namely The United States. There is no such thing as a country that is part of another country! FillsHerTease (talk) 20:27, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Why England is not a country? So the English flag doesn't make sense? In what world did you think that? There is so much arrogance, so much shallow knowledge that this shouldn't even be considered an "argument",because clearly I can see that you don't understand anything about the subject,this is worst edit I've ever seen, and they still say that the problem with Wikipedia is reliable sources, being after all, no one is saved and will never be saved anytime soon, If you don't stop being intolerant and want to own the truth, you'll make me feel sorry, man, I'm in mourning, because your brain passed away a long time ago. 177.105.90.20 (talk) 20:41, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- I explained why it isn't a country, but I'll explain again because you obviously aren't very bright:
- 1. It doesn't have it's own government.
- 2. It doesn't have passports.
- 3. It isn't recognised as a country by the United Nations.
- 4. It doesn't meet the definition of country in the various dictionaries.
- 5. The COUNTRY it is part of is called The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and there is no such thing as a country that is part of another country.
- These are the things which countries ALL have, Einstein. Now, do you have an actual argument, or do you just have more irrelevant word salad? FillsHerTease (talk) 20:47, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Please try to be civil. And note, this has been discussed many times before and the consensus seems to be as the wording is now. Tony Holkham (Talk) 20:52, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Dude, you're pathetic, besides being an idiot and imbecile, you're inviting offense, come on, offend me and I'll report you right now, are listening to me, Mr.Bright? 177.105.90.20 (talk) 20:54, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Why England is not a country? So the English flag doesn't make sense? In what world did you think that? There is so much arrogance, so much shallow knowledge that this shouldn't even be considered an "argument",because clearly I can see that you don't understand anything about the subject,this is worst edit I've ever seen, and they still say that the problem with Wikipedia is reliable sources, being after all, no one is saved and will never be saved anytime soon, If you don't stop being intolerant and want to own the truth, you'll make me feel sorry, man, I'm in mourning, because your brain passed away a long time ago. 177.105.90.20 (talk) 20:41, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
Is there a reason why this page has neither the HDI nor Gini of England listed? All other UK nation pages (Scotland, Wales, United Kingdom etc) have them. 92.15.85.19 (talk) 15:05, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- We can't get a source for England HDI, sadly (see the source on the other pages). And for GINI, the only source was the Scottish Government which somebody objected to as it was felt to be unreliable. Dgp4004 (talk) 15:41, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
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Please change "the greater metropolitan of which has a population" (Intro) to "the metropolitan area of which has a population" because
i. there's no noun following the adj
ii. 'greater metropolitan' is not justified by the content of the relative article (Greater London is more specific, and there are other area definitions as well) Aethalides 02:36, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Done M.Bitton (talk) 20:27, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
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