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:The theories suggests that some people conspired to hide the "truth" about Obama's citizenship and place of birth. Therefore a conspiracy theory. --[[User:Escape_Orbit|<span style="color: green;">Escape Orbit</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Escape_Orbit|(Talk)]]</sup> 17:51, 20 February 2024 (UTC) |
:The theories suggests that some people conspired to hide the "truth" about Obama's citizenship and place of birth. Therefore a conspiracy theory. --[[User:Escape_Orbit|<span style="color: green;">Escape Orbit</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Escape_Orbit|(Talk)]]</sup> 17:51, 20 February 2024 (UTC) |
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::Exactly. For example, there are people who said Obama's birth certificate was forged. Yet officials from the State of Hawaii repeatedly have said it is genuine. If the officials are lying, they are in on the conspiracy; if the officials have been duped, there was a conspiracy to insert a false document into Hawaii's records (Obama could not have done it alone); if his parents lied about his place of birth, they conspired; etc. [[User:Weazie|Weazie]] ([[User talk:Weazie|talk]]) 22:03, 22 February 2024 (UTC) |
::Exactly. For example, there are people who said Obama's birth certificate was forged. Yet officials from the State of Hawaii repeatedly have said it is genuine. If the officials are lying, they are in on the conspiracy; if the officials have been duped, there was a conspiracy to insert a false document into Hawaii's records (Obama could not have done it alone); if his parents lied about his place of birth, they conspired; etc. [[User:Weazie|Weazie]] ([[User talk:Weazie|talk]]) 22:03, 22 February 2024 (UTC) |
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== Hilary Clinton's role in the Controversy == |
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This article is notably lacking Hilary Clinton's role in launching the controversy by means of her comments during the Democratic Primary campaign against Barack Obama. The source of this claim and the facts and history should be added to this article. For example, a discussion is found here. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/sep/16/donald-trump/fact-checking-donald-trumps-claim-hillary-clinton-/ [[Special:Contributions/2601:18F:E80:894B:ECC6:DB8B:A91E:ADA1|2601:18F:E80:894B:ECC6:DB8B:A91E:ADA1]] ([[User talk:2601:18F:E80:894B:ECC6:DB8B:A91E:ADA1|talk]]) 11:18, 24 May 2024 (UTC) |
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Remove "people who doubted Obama's citizenship were racist or republican."
It was a conspiracy spread among people of all political preference, and it is just as wrong to assume anyone with a negative view on someone who happens to be "of color" is always racist or republican. ("Of color" is a racist term by the way. We all have color in our skin) 2601:187:8380:5330:19C7:77AA:CF14:473E (talk) 07:55, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
- I don't know what you're quoting, but it's not this article. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:11, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
- This quote does not appear to exist in this article. Iamreallygoodatcheckers (talk) 07:25, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
- Here's a link: https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article102354777.html. Apparently racist Clinton supporters were among those who *started* the rumor. There is no evidence that republican's are notably more racist than democrats. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-white-republicans-more-racist-than-white-democrats/ . 135.84.167.43 (talk) 16:53, 31 August 2023 (UTC) Personally I would remove the "republicans" part. It's speculative and the association with the word "racist" seems pointed and inaccurate. 135.84.167.43 (talk) 18:54, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
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There is repeated text in the first paragraph. Suggestion: change the following --
During Barack Obama's campaign for president in 2008, throughout his presidency and afterwards, there was extensive news coverage of Obama's religious preference, birthplace, and of the individuals questioning his religious belief and citizenship – efforts eventually known as the "birther movement",[2] by which name it is widely referred to across media.[3][4][5][6][7][8][9] The movement falsely asserted Obama was ineligible to be President of the United States because he was not a natural-born citizen of the United States as required by Article Two of the Constitution. During Barack Obama's campaign for president in 2008, throughout his presidency and afterwards, there was extensive news coverage of Obama's religious preference, birthplace, and of the individuals questioning his religious belief and citizenship – efforts eventually known as the "birther movement",[2] by which name it is widely referred to across media.[3][4][5][6][7][8][9] The movement falsely asserted Obama was ineligible to be President of the United States because he was not a natural-born citizen of the United States as required by Article Two of the Constitution.
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During Barack Obama's campaign for president in 2008, throughout his presidency and afterwards, there was extensive news coverage of Obama's religious preference, birthplace, and of the individuals questioning his religious belief and citizenship – efforts eventually known as the "birther movement",[2] by which name it is widely referred to across media.[3][4][5][6][7][8][9] The movement falsely asserted Obama was ineligible to be President of the United States because he was not a natural-born citizen of the United States as required by Article Two of the Constitution. Ericli3690 (talk) 22:26, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
Done – Muboshgu (talk) 22:48, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
Phrasing edit request 2023-06-21
Obama's parents were divorced in 1964. He attended kindergarten in 1966–1967 at Noelani Elementary School in Honolulu. In 1967, his mother married Indonesian student Lolo Soetoro, who was also attending the University of Hawaii (...)
I know it would be ridiculous to interpret this as such, but the phrasing here sounds like Lolo Soetoro was a student at the kindergarten. Perhaps rephrase to "...his mother married fellow University of Hawaii student, Lolo Soetoro" Bradbradenson (talk) 22:24, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
- Not done. It says "who was also attending the University of Hawaii" -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 23:11, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
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jun e = june 2603:8000:D300:3650:B549:5A7:4953:2993 (talk) 09:49, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
- It's not clear what you want done--Escape Orbit (Talk) 12:21, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
- Done, thanks for noticing. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:49, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
Incorrectly linked
this article was incorrectly linked to a "birther" conspiracy theory promoted by Andrew Sullivan regarding Sarah Palin's biological motherhood of her son Trig. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Sullivan RemusLupinWolfe (talk) 03:53, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
Remove the word "conspiracy"
In order for it to be a conspiracy the conspiracy suggestions are needed. From what I have read - I haven't seen any suggestion of a conspiracy. Therefore - it's just a thoery or rumor at worst. But definetly no a conspiracy theory. Norbert427 (talk) 17:45, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- The theories suggests that some people conspired to hide the "truth" about Obama's citizenship and place of birth. Therefore a conspiracy theory. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 17:51, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- Exactly. For example, there are people who said Obama's birth certificate was forged. Yet officials from the State of Hawaii repeatedly have said it is genuine. If the officials are lying, they are in on the conspiracy; if the officials have been duped, there was a conspiracy to insert a false document into Hawaii's records (Obama could not have done it alone); if his parents lied about his place of birth, they conspired; etc. Weazie (talk) 22:03, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
Hilary Clinton's role in the Controversy
This article is notably lacking Hilary Clinton's role in launching the controversy by means of her comments during the Democratic Primary campaign against Barack Obama. The source of this claim and the facts and history should be added to this article. For example, a discussion is found here. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/sep/16/donald-trump/fact-checking-donald-trumps-claim-hillary-clinton-/ 2601:18F:E80:894B:ECC6:DB8B:A91E:ADA1 (talk) 11:18, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
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