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:Okay thanks, I hope all this can blow over and we can start to work together.[[User:WilliamMThompson|WilliamMThompson]] ([[User talk:WilliamMThompson|talk]]) 23:58, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
:Okay thanks, I hope all this can blow over and we can start to work together.[[User:WilliamMThompson|WilliamMThompson]] ([[User talk:WilliamMThompson|talk]]) 23:58, 22 March 2008 (UTC)


== TM ==

How astute, remember civility is the key. That verbal licking you gave me really failed to break the skin. MAYBE JUST MAYBE WE CAN GET ALONG? HOW ABOUT THAT?[[User:Tom.mevlie|Tom.mevlie]] ([[User talk:Tom.mevlie|talk]]) 09:19, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

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Malazan Pages

G'day Howa0082, I don't know if you're going to be restricting your contributions exclusively to the MBotF pages, but I'm very happy to have someone else contributing. There's lots to do. In case you were looking at House of Chains, it's missing a plot summary. I've been working on it on-and-off, but it's an extremely long task to perform. I've started a plot summary on Talk:House of Chains, but it sucks right now. My plan was to break the book into sections focussing on characters (i.e. sections on Cutter/Apsalar, Whirlwind Camp, Kalam) rather than going through the order in the book (too fragmented). Feel free to take over if you'd like. I'd also like to start a page on the Theloman Toblakai, similar to the ones for the Tiste Edur, Andii and Liosan, Forkrul Assail and T'lan Imass. But it's wikipedia so you can pretty much do whatever you want. Have fun. WLU 18:44, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to do the Thelomen Toblakai page. I just decided to write about Karsa, is all. If you've got the summary for House of Chains in the works, I'll not touch that page, so... no worries! Howa0082 00:28, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Allow me to make myself more clear. Please write the House of Chains summary, oh God have mercy, please write it... If you feel like taking that task out of my hands I'm very happy to let you. It's a far bigger project than I initially anticipated. Anyway, if you decide to start on plot summaries, use it or not at least know that there's one for HoC in the talk page. WLU 14:24, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Howa,

I'm totally not stalking you and I'm really glad that you're expanding the Malazan pages. And I'm not obsessive-compulsive, honest! Just a couple things I thought you might find handy when editing, and a heads-up for a change I made. I re-named Cotillion, ascendant to be Cotillion (Malazan) 'cause normally things are in the format of Name (Disambiguation) rather than with a comma. I also added a disambiguation link to the Cotillion page (the actual dance. Second thing is, a while ago Captain Crawdad created a tag for the Malazan books, Category:Malazan (in double square brackets, I don't know how to make them show up and not turn it into a link). Put it at the bottom of the page and it it automatically links to the Malazan category page. There's also the MBF (in double-squiggly brackets) tag that throws a box at the bottom of the page which links it all the books and a bunch of other categories. I've just added them to the pages I started on the Tiste, Forkrul and Imass. WLU 14:45, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]


About AD&D Rules

I agree with your point totally. Customized AD&D rules work better in videogames than the original P&P rules. Maybe the solution is not calling them anal or faithful but hmm... Vigilant? If I remember correctly, I was reverting lots of lame boob jokes from the BG articles at the time, so your exellent point might have fallen as a victim of my reverting crusade. I'm terribly sorry about that. Regards Arsestar 14:05, 29 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Seriously. (Or, How I Learned to Utterly Dispise Love Other Editors)

My half of this convo is retrieved from the other users' talk page.

What is with you and constantly reverting my edits on The Blind God? I'm going to suppose you eventually bothered to check the edit history, since you reverted back to my redirect finally, but why the edit war over a completely superfluous page? I had already asked the admin to delete it, and I was told "No." So I blanked it. Were you do obnoxiously blind as to fail at noticing that the content of the afore-mentioned page was already in the main article of Blade of Tyshalle (and covered better), hence my efforts at removing it? Now, it's a redirect to the main article, yet you go and revert it to the article text only to revert BACK to a redirect a minute later. What the hell is your problem? Gunning for adminship? Howa0082 17:52, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Blanking a page is not the way to have an article deleted, no matter how superfluous you think the article is. If an administrator already refused to delete then you should have taken it to WP:AFD for other editors' opinions. Wholesale blanking is almost certain to be reverted, either by another editor or an anti-vandalism bot. ... discospinster talk 17:59, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That doesn't explain or justify you reverting my redirect. Howa0082 18:05, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The best way to go about creating a redirect from an existing article is to propose a {{mergeto|Blade of Tyshalle}} and then wait a week or so to see if anyone objects. Otherwise it's really not all that different from simply blanking the page. However, I didn't wish to get into an edit war. I was not objecting to removing the article; I was objecting to the way you were doing it - without any consensus. ... discospinster talk 18:19, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:Be Bold I'm not going to sit around waiting for people to reach a concensus will will almost certainly be "yes, this page is crap, toss it". As well, WP:Ignore all rules I know the rules, and I know that ignoring them works pretty damn well most times. This isn't like debating merging Upper Canada with Canada West. This is turning a stub into a redirect to a more informative article that already covers the topic of the stub. Howa0082 18:33, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well then, I guess the issue is how closely one is going to follow the rules. ... discospinster talk 18:37, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re:X-wing GA

Read your review of the X-wing article for GA status, and I feel you've raised some good points. I've been working on a substantial rewrite of the article for some time now (some of which was used to plump up the article before the GA nomination), and I'd like your opinion on how well the material in this rewrite addresses your concerns. Please keep in mind that this is a work in progress, and so is not meant to be completely flow-through prose. Thanks muchly! -- saberwyn 12:33, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Blade of Tyshalle is cool

That was a good book. Is the next one out? Were you going to be contributing a bit more to the Malazan pages? There's an eager new contributor, User:Krmarshall, and it's nice not to do all the heavy lifting by myself. WLU 20:30, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Judas Priest

Hi, I tried to do good faith edits to the Priest article like I do with many band articles, to remove praise-laden wording that you don't normally see in an encyclopedia (e.g., a "very successful tour", "Fans hailed the album as a masterwork", etc). Editors sometimes like to use effusive language when describing the albums of their fave band : ) ....I still have a concern with a word in the lede: "definitive"...seems POV. Perhaps if it had a source: "Metal historian John Doe calls Priest the "definitive" heavy metal band." Your reference to me adding weasel words was probably the way I replaced "fans hailed" or "many fans believed" type wording with "critics." I am assuming that the claims in the article are claims made by music critics, which can eventually be dug up by doing research, and not the opinions of fans, which would be hard to ascertain (unless you had a survey)....Just one thing. You called the edits "random." I think there is a pattern in the edits...simplify, reduce the number of words, remove minor details.Nazamo 15:13, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Judas Priest

The article Judas Priest you nominated as a good article has failed , see Talk:Judas Priest for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of said article. If you oppose this decision, you may ask for a reassessment. Cheers, CP 22:51, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Article assessment - Star Trek: Enterprise

As requested here I've assessed Star Trek: Enterprise. I've included a summary of my thinking here.--Opark 77 15:13, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Article assessment - Dungeons & Dragons (TV series)

As requested here I've assessed Dungeons & Dragons (TV series). I've included a summary of my thinking here.--Opark 77 10:10, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Article assessment - Kamen Rider 555

As requested here I've assessed Kamen Rider 555. I've included a summary of my thinking here.--Opark 77 10:19, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OMG

My response is on my page. Navnløs 04:01, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Episode list

I'm learning by doing myself. I know that {{Episode list}} works inside of a wikitable. See Help:Table for advice on setting up a table. The template itself has instructions if you follow this link {{Episode list}}. I've set up a table on the page and transposed the available info about the first episode (just the title). I hope this helps, if it still isn't making sense come back to me and I'll try and be more specific.--Opark 77 (talk) 23:01, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Den-O episode list (Other Editors, part 2)

The entire conversation past the original comment is taken from the other editor's talk page. Apparently, it's really hard to post your responses on the other guys' talk page so that they can actually get your message, y'know?

The headers are there for ease in navigation, and I agree that the summaries can be cut down (even if they are sourced to the official site's summarizations).—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 20:15, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It might make it easier to go straight to an episode, but it creates a massive directory at the top of the page which has no place on a clearly defined table. It's not an indescriminate collection of information, it's a list of episodes, and I can't see a reason for a directory there. The list of Kabuto episodes doesn't have that, and I was under the impression that that list was the standard to aim for, so... Howa0082 (talk) 20:26, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
But how else do you go through the table, and also the list of Kabuto episodes is from last year which is before I started really editting these articles. The Den-O list does need to be cut down, but the section headers make it easy to go through the list, which is easier than making several articles for each episode which according to current WP policy won't be notable anyway.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 20:36, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The directory is a page long. That's insane. People can scroll down, for god's sake. Who seriously needs a giant list like that to go through a list of one topic? I'm not saying make an article for each episodes, but that directory makes it actually more difficult to navigate, because now people have to scroll past the immense object on the page. Directories are made to enable people to find information in the surf of the article, by dividing everything into topics. Episode lists are all one topic. QED, no directory. Howa0082 (talk) 21:51, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It's not a directory. It's a table of contents. It shows what's in the article. The only other person who felt that it was unnecessary was an individual who was trying to get the particular version of the template deleted.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:10, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
...a list that tell you what is in something is a directory, as well as a table of contents. Either way, it's redundant having a list that tells you what's in... a list. Just have the actual list itself. Howa0082 (talk) 22:22, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If nothing else, look at featured episode lists from WP:TV. Those don't have episode-by-episode topic headers. They may still have topic headers, but not for each individual episode. Howa0082 (talk) 22:40, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Canadian English

I do find your personal experiences interesting. Where did you grow up/live and how old are you? I am 41 and live in the northern GTA and rarely hear zee from residents and have heard children be corrected for wrongly saying "zee". I would hazard a guess of about half of times I hear "leftenant" vs "lootenant" (and really, who wants to be a tenant of a loo anyway :-) ). Cheers! DoubleBlue (Talk) 17:03, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Thanks for your reply. I went to the University of Alberta and I too noticed that Alberta seems to have a great deal more American pronunciation and spelling. I've often wondered if that was due to the proliferation of Americans for the oil industry, being one of the latest provinces for immigration, or the separation from older Canada (by distance to central Canada and by the Rockies from BC). DoubleBlue (Talk) 18:25, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

article assessment--Angel of Retribution

Hi. Your article is in my assessment teetering right on the brink of a "B", which is as high as we can assess at WP:ALBUM. The only thing that keeps me from being comfortable reassessing it as such is that the section that meets the requirement of "at least one section of informative prose other than lead" is more of a list than an ordinary prose section. If this were restructured into a paragraph, I'd feel comfortable reassessing. :) Anyway, I respond because I seem to be the only (or one of the very few) members of the project actually assessing albums right now, so if I don't pick it up it may sit there for a while and I wanted you to know why. If you decide to revise that section or add another section of prose, feel free to drop me a line, and I'll be glad to take a look at it. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 00:39, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reassessed. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 02:46, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Enterprise assessment

I think I meant cite web rather than cite episode, sorry for the confusion caused. What I mean is that some footnotes are in the format <ref>URL</ref> for example no. 14 while some are in the format <ref>{{citeweb|URL|author|publisher|access date|etc.}}</ref>. See {{citeweb}} for help uising the template.--Opark 77 (talk) 18:50, 18 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Star Trek: Enterprise

You do Star Trek, right? How about you try and figure out what User:Howa0082 has been up to in Star Trek: Enterprise. --Jack Merridew 15:06, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to view the substantial edits I've done to the article, actually. I've improved it, found citations, regulated the formatting on the pre-existing citations, hacked out a bunch of useless stuff, and generally made it pretty. But just remember the only reason Jackyboy even brought this to your attention is because he disagreed with a comment I made in an unrelated deletion discussion. (And no, I am not wikistalking him in return, I was merely curious to see if he had reverted anything else I had edited. That's how I found this talkpage.) Howa0082 (talk) 15:35, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I am in no hurry. Until the rfar concludes, Until then I will make little or preferably no edit to fiction related topics. I'll abide by the decision there. I do not want to make a futile attempt to improve articles in the meanwhile if all those articles will end up getting deleted w/o discussion. -- Cat chi? 20:21, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Star Trek: Enterprise

The article Star Trek: Enterprise you nominated as a good article has failed , see Talk:Star Trek: Enterprise for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of said article. If you oppose this decision, you may ask for a reassessment. Cheers, CP 17:35, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Careful what you are saying...

Regarding (I bet you can guess...) this comment, please be careful what you are saying. The term 'policy wank' could be deemed offensive, and calling me an idiot is not in your best interests. Of course, it is made that little bit worse by the fact you are actually wrong, as I explained in my reply. You think I don't understand original research? I'm an admin. At least expect me to have a basic grasp of our core principles. J Milburn (talk) 19:15, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I mentioned the fact I was an admin just so you weren't under the impression I was someone new to Wikipedia who had no idea how it works. I have a good understanding of policy, I just thought saying I was an admin was the easiest way to say that. For what it's worth, I'm not offended by the term 'policy wank', just you can never be sure what is or is not going to offend people, so it is best to be careful. J Milburn (talk) 23:14, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

IP spammer

Hi, I left the user with a stern warning. If another spam link is added from that IP, add "{{Subst:uw-spam4}}" without the quotes to the IP's talk page- this will leave them a last warning. If they do it again after the last warning, contact me or leave a note on WP:AIV and they will be blocked. Basically, we don't block IPs unless they have vandalised after a last warning, unless it is severe- use of bots to vandalise, legal threats, death threats, etc. J Milburn (talk) 20:11, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, was a coding mess in that comment. Fixed now. J Milburn (talk) 20:13, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, if he does it again, myself or any admin will be justified in blocking him. J Milburn (talk) 16:45, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Novels - 1st Coordinators Election

An election has been proposed and has been set up for this project. Description of the roles etc., can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Coordinators. If you wish to stand, enter your candidacy before the end of March and ask your questions of anyone already standing at Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Coordinators/May 2008. Voting will start on the 1st April and close at the end of April. The intention is for the appointments to last from May - November 2008. For other details check out the pages or ask. KevinalewisBot (talk) 12:53, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Election

Well mate, it seems we have reached a stalemate. You know what I mean? I guess I am trying to say, the election is inactive now, no one has contributed in a while. Please start contributing to it again. And you should also contribute to the studying literature discussion article on the general discussion forum, you cunt.DangerTM (talk) 09:18, 17 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Message

Yes you should. Boylo (talk) 14:02, 17 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Barging in here, but I would have left a civility warning on their talk page and then informed everyone (all five of us, heh) at the coordinators election. It's not too late for a snippy, automated reminder of WP:CIVIL. They are new here, after all. María (habla conmigo) 14:30, 17 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

List of D&D monsters

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Sock puppeteering

To be honest, it's not an area I am particuarly familiar with. Really obvious sock puppets being used for malicious purposes can generally be blocked on site, and the sock-puppeteer harshly warned. It seems that Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets is more directed towards larger cases than this, so I will look into the matter myself now. Who was it who blocked the first puppet? Perhaps they would be better to deal with the matter than me? (...) Having looked into the matter a little, Rlevse was the one who dealt with the case, so he may be worth contacting. DangerTM was blocked by Dreadstar for personal attacks and incivility, then added to the case page by Rlevse. Basically, Rlevse seems to be the guy to contact over this matter; he's familiar with the sockpuppet procedure in general and familiar with the case. Last thing- there's a difference between a block and a ban- the puppets have been blocked permenently, and the puppeteer has been blocked for a week, no one has been banned. J Milburn (talk) 15:27, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dead right!

See my message to the editor who first reported the sockpuppet: diff. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 16:46, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

reply

That is an IP for an editor known as "the falsifier" (read admin Wiki alf's page or former admin KnowledgeofSelf's page for lots of previous history from the same editor) who may be a copycat of the veteran vandal known as the the "toy town vandal". Several administrators are aware of this editor. I have alerted one via third party messenger and anymore edits from the IP will result in a block. 156.34.222.121 (talk) 00:27, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Will Thompson

Maybe you should assume good faith, I don't want to offend, and I have no intention of doing so, so when you say "at least you haven't called me a dirty name yet" I can assume that the yet indicates that you think I am going to insult you, or that Danger insulted you. Can you give me a brief run down of what this guy actually did. And don't worry if you think I will be offended, I have been desensitized by years of terrible horror films. WilliamMThompson (talk) 10:19, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay thanks, I hope all this can blow over and we can start to work together.WilliamMThompson (talk) 23:58, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]


TM

How astute, remember civility is the key. That verbal licking you gave me really failed to break the skin. MAYBE JUST MAYBE WE CAN GET ALONG? HOW ABOUT THAT?Tom.mevlie (talk) 09:19, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]