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::::Maybe the page was edited since the links above were posted but both [http://www.jamestoseland.com/about_jt.asp about_jt] and [http://www.jamestoseland.com/vital_stats.asp vital_stats] in his official website say Doncaster. I believe we should use that [[User:Chris Ssk|<font color ="black">'''Chris'''</font> <font color ="red">'''Ssk'''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:Chris Ssk|talk]]</sub> 23:34, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
::::Maybe the page was edited since the links above were posted but both [http://www.jamestoseland.com/about_jt.asp about_jt] and [http://www.jamestoseland.com/vital_stats.asp vital_stats] in his official website say Doncaster. I believe we should use that [[User:Chris Ssk|<font color ="black">'''Chris'''</font> <font color ="red">'''Ssk'''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:Chris Ssk|talk]]</sub> 23:34, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
::::: The archived page at [http://web.archive.org/web/20070601200955/http://www.jamestoseland.com/about_jt.asp] has Sheffield so it looks like the official website is now consistent on Doncaster as his place of birth. [[User:M100|M100]] ([[User talk:M100|talk]]) 23:42, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
::::: The archived page at [http://web.archive.org/web/20070601200955/http://www.jamestoseland.com/about_jt.asp] has Sheffield so it looks like the official website is now consistent on Doncaster as his place of birth. [[User:M100|M100]] ([[User talk:M100|talk]]) 23:42, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::: Changes now made to align article with (the now consistent) information at http://www.jamestoseland.com. Hopefully his website won't change when the wind moves to a different direction! [[User:M100|M100]] ([[User talk:M100|talk]]) 00:00, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

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Have cleaned up and updated. (Bigfatspider 19:55, 23 February 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Birthplace

Sheffield?

http://www.superbike-news.co.uk/WSB/RiderProfiles/JamesToseland.htm

http://www.jamestoseland.com/about_jt.asp


Doncaster?

http://www.jamestoseland.com/vital_stats.asp

http://www.donny.co.uk/Doncaster/news/index.php3?ID=1291


However the Births register for the last quarter of 1980 shows a "James Michael Toseland" birth being registered in Doncaster. While not totally conclusive it would be extremely unlikely for a Sheffield birth to be registered in Doncaster (and vice versa)

Original (subscription only) page at http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/View.aspx?dbid=8964&path=1980.Q4-Oct-Nov-Dec.T.40&sid=&gskw=

Image of this page http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/4412/jamestoselandjx0.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by M100 (talkcontribs) 15:53, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How bizarre. Normally I'd say go with the person's official homepage, but he's contrived to get both. The official MotoGP site has him as Sheffield as well. I've sent an email off via his official site, i'll let you know if I get anything back. Ged UK (talk) 18:17, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
From the links, and having added to the article before, I think the story is - parents living in Doncaster, born in a Sheffield hospital, then parents seperate/divorce and with mother moves to Rotherham. Be interesting to see what his official website says. There is more debate here as well - if this is correct, then do we list the technical point of birth or where his parents were living? I have noticed different articles have different conclusions on this subject. Rgds, --86.141.164.141 (talk) 12:17, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've always thought it should be where he was born, not where he grew up: That's what birth-place means after all. If we want to mention the details of his childhood and where he grew up, then fine provided we can source it. Ged UK (talk) 18:34, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe the page was edited since the links above were posted but both about_jt and vital_stats in his official website say Doncaster. I believe we should use that Chris Ssk talk 23:34, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The archived page at [23] has Sheffield so it looks like the official website is now consistent on Doncaster as his place of birth. M100 (talk) 23:42, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Changes now made to align article with (the now consistent) information at http://www.jamestoseland.com. Hopefully his website won't change when the wind moves to a different direction! M100 (talk) 00:00, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]