User talk:Just Chilling/Archive 4

Thanks for the note...

... on the Mansehra school, and thanks for working on it. Google gave me a warning not to click onto the Dawn.com Web site, although I forget the language. Did you get that warning? (I stayed away from it, but I'm glad you've got it as a source.) I don't thank you enough for alerting me to particular AfDs, so thanks and thanks and thanks again. Noroton (talk) 06:07, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, accessing the page through Google gives that warning but going directly is no problem. I have high internet security and think there is no problem with it. TerriersFan (talk) 16:23, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Log home

what is your problem with the log home link? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.98.145.55 (talk) 14:59, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

It fails WP:EL as adding nothing substantial the article - it is primarily a directory of companies. TerriersFan (talk) 16:26, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Well Done

The AfD Rescue Barnstar Well done on a good rescue, filling in content and sourcing for Papua New Guinea national football team results during its AfD. Thanks for your hard work. Pastordavid (talk) 21:33, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Hoax, probably

Hi, no, I can't find anything in Portuguese linking Moita Flores to the McCanns - Rothorpe (talk) 16:37, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Protection of article Disappearance of Madeleine McCann

I noticed that you had protected the article (Can't edit it). Since this is an ongoing news story and more new things are happening in this case,may I ask that you unprotect it so that we may add new events,etc? User:Guy43821 (talk)19/1/2008 —Preceding comment was added at 09:40, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

In my view short-term protection is necessary but if you would like another view please take it to WP:RFPP. TerriersFan (talk) 16:19, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

ANI notification

Hi TerriersFan. Please be notified of the discussion here. Thanks. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 15:48, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

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Bow High School

Hi, looks like we both had the same good idea at the same time :-) I won't edit it further tonight to avoid an edit clash. TerriersFan (talk) 03:21, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

• I think I'm done for the evening. You can take your hack at the article. The content available only makes it all the more baffling that the article was salted, let alone deleted. Alansohn (talk) 03:23, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Thx; great work. Looks like the content was removed rather than sourced which then allowed deletion on the basis of absence of content :-(

Thanks

Harry was a white dog with black spots (talk) 12:44, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

I appreciate your contributions to the Hidden Valley High School page. Finchbook01 (talk) 18:16, 2 February 2008 (UTC)Phil

Will Look for Info

Hello. Regarding the Hidden Valley High School, I do not live in the area presently, but will try to obtain the info. The school is aptly named, being somewhat isolated from the local village. Also, the discussion on schools having or not having merit as Wiki sites was interesting.[1] I would hope a young person (budding English major) from the school would contribute. I am trying to be careful with additions, inclusions until I have caught on to more of the protocols for editing. Finchbook01 (talk) 00:20, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello again TerriersFan, Today I received this reply from the history teacher at the Hidden Valley High School in Grants Pass. I still plan to physically travel to the area and nose around the county building department for verifiable info. Phil

Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:50 AM Subject: RE: History of HVHS "Phil, The school was completed (barely) by Fall 1977 for the first graduating class June 1978. That first year there were still Porta-Potties when the year began. I arrived in August 1978 as a coach and teacher and have been here every year. I am retiring this year with Ed Frankel and we are the last of the "old-timers" . Hopefully this info helps you. Mike Porzio" I shall keep at it. Finchbook01 (talk) 19:35, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Wilmington Montessori School

Thank you for your help and edits on the entry on Wilmington Montessori School. Whatever is required to keep the article within the guidelines of wikipedia is more than welcome. If there is anything else that I need to do, information to provide, etc., please let me know. I think I have already provided a good deal of information, and more than many sister schools in the area.

I am unsure of the motivations of the other editor that seems to have an obvious issue with the article (or the school, or Montessori) as stated on the dispute page and my talk page. He doesn't seem to have the same unemotional, rational discussion and or provide helpful guidance like other editors.

Again, thanks for the help. Daddy.twins (talk) 01:22, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Struck my own comments above. Although I felt the editor's wording was brusque, I will assume good faith on the editor's part to ensure quality WP content.

Additionally, if you have a few minutes, I could use assistance in a couple of edits to further address WP:N. Both items relate to nationally recognized grants awarded annually to a relatively select group of recipients. The first was established and funded by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, and the second is a partnership between Toyota and the National Science Teachers Association (NSTA). Toyota funds and NSTA administers the program.

• First, if advisable, I'd like to highlight Community/Environment/Grant involvement in some way by moving the EPA Five Star Grant entry up. Here's additional info for that,
  
  In 2001, Wilmington Montessori School was one of 60 recipients in the country of a Five Star Grant from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency for restoration work on the school property.
  
  Project Name: "Sense of Place" A School-Site Wildlife Habitat Project
  Five Star Grant: $10,000
  Grant to: Partnership for the Delaware Estuary
  Project Location: Wilmington, DE
  http://www.epa.gov/owow/wetlands/restore/5star/fy01grants.html#Wilmington
  
  The Five Star Restoration Program was established so the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) can work with its partners for education through community-based wetlands restoration projects in watersheds across the U.S. The National Association of Counties, the National Fish and Wildlife Foundation, and the Wildlife Habitat Council have joined together with EPA for this effort. Funding for the program is provided by EPA's Office of Wetlands, Oceans and Watersheds, and by the National Marine Fisheries Service's Community-based Restoration Program for selected projects in coastal areas.
  http://www.epa.gov/owow/wetlands/restore/5star/02factsheet.html
  

• Second, I'd like to add to the same section an entry for,
  
  In 2007, Wilmington Montessori School was one of 50 recipients in the country of a Toyota TAPESTRY Large Grant.
  
  Green Eggs & Sand: An Early Childhood Ecosystem EGGS-ploration
  Project Director: Angie W. Meadows
  Staff: Cathy Simon-Cord, Cynthia Craig
  
  2007 Toyota TAPESTRY Large Grant Awardees
  http://www.nsta.org/pd/tapestry/thisyears.htm
  Category: Integrating Literacy and Science

If I am asking too much, just let me know and I will muddle through the edits as best I can. Thank you for any time or effort you are able to expend on the article.

Daddy.twins (talk) 19:55, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

The short answer is yes to both; it is better for information to be in the article rather than the footnotes. TerriersFan (talk) 03

21, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

TF If you think the NYT article should stay, that's great. From the discussions during the last couple of days, I can see that experienced editors can disagree on muliple points. I was hoping to show willingness to accept changes to the article in order to remove items considered trivial by editors. I'll leave it to you guys to debate the finer points. Regards. --Daddy.twins (talk) 18:41, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Opinion?

Hello, TF, I was just wondering whether I could get an opinion from you about Show Me Love (t.A.T.u. song). I put it up for deletion, and I'm just wondering if perhaps I'm missing something that would lend it notability. Do you think it's notable? Thanks, Benjamin ^{Scrīptum est - Fecī} 01:47, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't think that the single is notable but the controversy is sufficiently well sourced to be mentioned at t.A.T.u.. TerriersFan (talk) 17:46, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

litherland gala

The addition about Litherland gala was suggestedby my father who lived in Litherland for many years and the event was a famous event in the area. I attended on a number of occasions —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gornystege (talk • contribs) 12:49, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

I understand. However, the way forward is to research and add a reliable source since personal experience is not sufficient. TerriersFan (talk) 17:37, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Notability of footballers

Hi, you contributed to the discussion about football notability criteria in November, so you will be delighted/appalled that I have restarted the discussion here. Please give your opinion so that we can move towards formalising the criteria. Regards, King of the NorthEast 15:11, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/South Pointe Middle School

Thanks for pointing out the Merge practice in the proposed guideline. I've revised my opinion on the AfD. --Regards. --Daddy.twins (talk) 18:56, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

I've really appreciated the good advice and direction. I'm glad that I was fortunate to stumble and fumble my way into a few good editors to help during this first week in wikipedia editing. I look forward to staying as active as real life allows and hope that I can contribute to a couple different efforts starting with WP:SCL. Thanks again, TF. --Daddy.twins (talk) 02:05, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry; as you get into Wikipedia you'll soon find that real life takes a back seat :=) TerriersFan (talk) 03:33, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Great. Just what I need ... another obsession! I spent many bleary-eyed nights at my keyboard during the first year of Yahoo! Answers (not so much now). Maybe I should quit before I get behind. Not likely now. :-) --Daddy.twins (talk) 04:29, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Salt Grammar School

Thank you for your work on the above. It was obvious to me when I first stumbled across the article that the school was notable and I began the process of improving the page. You have greatly improved upon my small revisions. Thanks once again. Paste (talk) 08:44, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Montessori in the United States

I'd like to be bold on this edit, but since I'm close to a Montessori school, I have instead tagged a couple questionable items with and . If you get a moment, I'd appreciate a different set of eyes reviewing. Regards. --Daddy.twins (talk) 23:39, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Re:Union Junior - Senior High School

Thanks for reminding me that schools aren't covered by CSD, though I strongly disagree and I believe that CSD schould be expanded. Some people are getting really rediculous in declining SD candidates when it is obvious that they will be deleted. I did in fact search for a possible redirect, but none could be found with WP's search. Also, I kindly refuse to notify the creator as we have a very useful bot who does that for us, User:BJBot. Reywas92^Talk 02:09, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

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Fixed. TerriersFan (talk) 05:20, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

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Fixed. TerriersFan (talk) 21:20, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Bow High School Notability

Please do not remove the notability tag without first discussing the change on the article's talk page. Dimension31 (talk) 22:16, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

I have its you who hasn't discussed it. TerriersFan (talk) 22:28, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

You Have Committed Slander

Do not slander my good name. I have made no damaging edits -- ever. Dimension31 (talk) 22:31, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

You have removed references. If you don't rate the references then AfD the article but do not remove the references. TerriersFan (talk) 22:35, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

I removed references that cited the subject's own website. Do not make it sound like I went around randomly deleting valid references. Dimension31 (talk) 00:18, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Internal references are fine for internal matters. TerriersFan (talk) 00:30, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

What is the Wikipedia guideline for this? Dimension31 (talk) 00:36, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I think you should have been able to find the guidelines for this by now. Keylock191 (talk) 10:18, 3 May 2008 (UTC) keylock191

Do Not Edit Posts On My Talk Page

Do not misrepresent posts on my talk page. Dimension31 (talk) 22:38, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Please contact me by email

Or open up yours so I can email you. Just wanted to notify you of something (I think you'll be reading it soon enough if you haven't already, but just want to inform you early). Noroton (talk) 03:17, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome! Noroton (talk) 17:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Bow High School

I don't know if you're still watching this article, but would you stop by the talk page to offer your opinion on a statenent about the school's addiction to Facebook that Dimension31 insists needs to be included? Thanks, Metros (talk) 01:40, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Cyfarthfa Castle edit

Sorry for the slightly rude comment made explaining the last edit; beer and internet sometimes don't mix!! CrackDragon (talk) 14:31, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

No problem :-) TerriersFan (talk) 17:04, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Montessori School of Westfield

After much googling and as written, I would have to say NN. --Daddy.twins (talk) 18:38, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, that's helpful. I'll leave the page but if it gets deletion attention it'll have to be redirected. TerriersFan (talk) 16:39, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/New York City DOE Region 1 (3rd nomination)

I have directed fairly sharp comments at your contributions at this AfD discussion. You may wish to reply. Jd2718 (talk) 01:42, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Excell International School

"Stafford school shouldn't be named for Conway "

Stafford School Board, as in Stafford, VA
fredericksburg.com, as in Fredericksburg, VA

...d'oh! --Daddy.twins (talk) 16:34, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

No problem; easily done. There is also a Conway School in Boston, USA with which I was getting confused! TerriersFan (talk) 16:40, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Odle Middle School

Think that one's coming along nicely. --Daddy.twins (talk) 19:11, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, thx to your refs. BTW one of the chess refs seems broken? TerriersFan (talk) 19:14, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. I just successfully retried all of them .. I think. Which one is giving you problems? --Daddy.twins (talk) 19:17, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

This one? TerriersFan (talk) 19:20, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Ah ... by "chess refs", you meant "math refs" .. very tricky of you. I'll find the correct link. --19:24, 25 February 2008 (UTC) --Daddy.twins (talk) 19:27, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

And ... that link ain't mine ... was there before I got to editing the page today. I'll still see if I can track it down, though --Daddy.twins (talk) 19:27, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Oops, sorry about that - I shouldn't edit and eat tea at the same time :-) TerriersFan (talk) 19:34, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Eat tea? Sounds like you need to focus on _something_! :-) I've added the ref to the page. Cleanup as needed. I'm still trying to get the hang of different cite formats and preferences. --Daddy.twins (talk) 19:38, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Think I've got it. Looks like it was misplaced in the article. It's an article about their Blue Ribbon status on the Washington State School Directors' Assoc site. Try http://www.wssda.org/wssda/webforms/en-us/news/2002/20020529_bluerib.asp --Daddy.twins (talk) 19:31, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Abbey Middle School

Hi there, thanks for the tip about history boxes etc, im still quite new to all this so am always Greatful for help and advice.

I've now expanded the article on Abbey Middle School and feel now that the article has justification for permanent inclusion on Wikipedia. How do I go about challenging the decision to label the article for deletion? Bleaney (talk) 22:35, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

First of all, I appreciate the work you have done. You might, BTW, want to examine the edits that I have made to see some of our editing conventions. However, it is not yet a keep; and believe me if I am not convinced it won't be kept (I have an established reputation for improving school pages so they can be kept). All is not lost since we can copy the content to Cauldwell under a new heading. The consensus on here is that secondary schools are generally kept but primary and middle schools need clearly established notability. WP:School provides good guidance. The existence of many other, poorer, articles doesn't affect anything; it simply means no-one has got round to putting them up for deletion/merge. If, having read the guidance you still want to proceed then you need to find content with secondary sources. Searching on the various names on Google news should always be the first point of call. For example, see here. The question of 'special measures' is skirted around at the moment and you need to incorporate the full story backed up by the sources. That, alone, is unlikely to be sufficient so you need to find other news stories. I'm always ready to help. TerriersFan (talk) 23:18, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok, well as you say the consensus is that secondary schools are generally kept. Firstly Abbey Middle school is currently designated as a secondary school or middle-deemed-secondary school which teaches in a secondary style format and is recognised as such by ODSTED. (This is true of all middle school in north Bedfordshire). Also, the school used to be a secondary modern school, so has a history of full secondary education provision. I feel also that the school is just as much Elstow's, as Cauldwell's (again reflected in its history and name) which means it cannot be easily defined to one locality. Bleaney (talk) 23:36, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

The target for a merge can always be discussed and agreed. I understand the points that you make; however, I can only provide advice as I see it. The way forward is to add sourced material and I have given you a good pointer above. Otherwise, it won't be kept. TerriersFan (talk) 23:47, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Im struggling to find info on how and why the school got out of special measures, any tips??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bleaney (talk • contribs) 00:23, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Two ways, firstly you need to work through the references here, here, and all past Ofsted reports. Secondly, if you are local, visit the school and the education offices and see what publically available documentation they can produce (sources do not need to be web based). Also consider a visit to the local paper and/or library to search back issues. BTW it helps if you use multiple ':' to indent your comments so it can be seen which comments replies to which one. TerriersFan (talk) 00:35, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

User talk:82.47.141.134

I can understand why you wouldn't want to ban an implemented IP forever. I'm just remarking that anyone sharing that IP is not really going to have a chance to edit anyway, and really hasn't since 2006 and won't for as long as that user is at that IP.--Sparkygravity (talk) 02:10, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

AFD for illegal taxicab operation

I noticed that you nominated this article for deletion, but then removed the tag. Can you please explain?Hellno2 (talk) 18:44, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

The article contains some useful material that is sourced. However, it also contains a number of contentious statements that are unsourced and fail WP:V and WP:NPOV. I am presently thinking through the best way of dealing with the matter to preserve the sourced content whilst eliminating those parts that fail policy. TerriersFan (talk) 23:26, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Why not place the appropriate tags (for example {{cn}} or {{npov}}) wherever needed?Hellno2 (talk) 00:32, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Happy Leap Day!

This was the most ridiculous postcard I could find. I just couldn't let the day pass unremarked.
Noroton (talk) 03:46, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Happy Leap Day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bishop Ellis

OK, I'm watching it - Rothorpe (talk) 21:52, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Elizabeth High School (New Jersey)

Hi, I have carried out a revert to correct the name of the principal which I have checked here. However, I am uncertain about the addition of:

"Boys Soccer team (Varsity & JV, Union County Champions 2005)".

Please would you check it and reinsert it if it is correct? TerriersFan (talk) 02:46, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

• Thanks for stepping up in my neck of the woods. I was unable to find a source for the county championships. I have no objection to leaving the claim out in its entirety. I added a source for another notable, and the article looks pretty good compared to most schools. Thanks again for your input. Alansohn (talk) 03:13, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Benson and the Little Giant

Are podcasts such as Benson and the Little Giant notable? -WarthogDemon 05:08, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

They can be but they would require the necessary reliable secondary sources to meet WP:N. I haven't researched this one but at the moment the sources are, in my view, insufficient. In an AfD the page's fate would depend on whether additional sources can be found. TerriersFan (talk) 05:13, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

re:

ok, could you help me do that????????--I am sooooo cool! 23:41, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, first of all, which URL did you get it from, please? TerriersFan (talk) 04:36, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

URL???????????--I am sooooo cool! 13:16, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Click URL - the address of the website where you found it. TerriersFan (talk) 16:32, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh, okay, then here's the URL/.htm Madeliene McCann

Sorry, that URL is broken .... TerriersFan (talk) 12:55, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Weird, sometimes it works with me, I dont know what's going on

(I am sooooo cool! 20:32, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Post Oak Middle School

Hi. Thanks for the heads-up! I do feel that it should have been kept but the merge done is an acceptable compromise. Cheers! DoubleBlue (Talk) 03:35, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Udgam School For Children

I have now merged the content into Education in Ahmedabad; it's not much use debating about those 2 lines of content. But generally, if you want an article to be merged, just be bold and merge it. There's no need for this kind of procedural ping-pong.

By the way, there are quite a number of school articles tagged with notability questions, which might eventually end up in the PROD process. If you're interested, I can provide you with a list. --B. Wolterding (talk) 17:02, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

My view, and the point that I was making, is that if you come across a non-notable school article then you should go ahead and merge or redirect it, rather than Prod it which means someone else has to deal with it. The accepted approach is that North American schools are merged/redirected to the school district and schools elsewhere to the lowest level locality. TerriersFan (talk) 22:12, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Madeleine edit

Hey TerriersFan, thanks for your note regarding this edit. While the MOS seems to indicate that only the birth date should appear in parentheses, the result of this edit is now a clumsy short sentence which is a little out of place. I don't see any reason why it should be restored to the previous version, but I guess one point is that the article is not strictly speaking a biography, so the biographical style manual need not necessarily apply! That may not be the answer you're looking for, but that's my take on it! The Rambling Man (talk) 13:30, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

St. Joseph High School (İstanbul)

You declined a CSD#A7 for St. Joseph High School (İstanbul), with the comment "Declined speedy - schools are explicitly excluded from A7". I would have nominated it as an AfD, except the logs for the page show it has previously been twice speedily deleted as CSD#A7. So, is A7 valid for schools or isn't it? Delicious carbuncle (talk) 03:01, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Schools are explicitly excluded from A7 - see the text at WP:CSD, section A7. They are not excluded from A1, for example, so 1 liners can still be deleted. The accepted stance is that high schools are generally notable, and except for odd ones like small private schools and unsourceable ones from say, the Philippines are invariably kept at AfD. Elementary schools are generally not notable and, unless there is a clear claim to notability are normally merged to the school district (North America) or the lowest level of the locality (elsewhere). TerriersFan (talk) 03:11, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Cope Middle School

I noticed you have done some work on this article. I did not see anything that would support the notability of the school per the guidelines or the purposed guidelines at Wikipedia:Notability (schools). I thought I would drop you a note instead of tagging it. Any thoughts? Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 17:01, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for the heads up. I have had a look around for sources but there isn't quite enough to defend a separate page. Consequently, I would not resist a bold merge/redirect to Redlands Unified School District per the guidelines. TerriersFan (talk) 19:30, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good. Cheers Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 13:29, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Madeleine McCann

Thanks. I didn't see that information. Well, I tried.--MurderWatcher1 (talk) 22:10, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, you did well, thanks. TerriersFan (talk) 22:12, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Jefferson Forest High School

It seems we edit/delete conflicted on this article. I was going to deny the G7 speedy because other people have edited it, and therefore G7 doesn't apply. But something odd happened, and I recreated the article with the internal error text. What should be done? seresin | wasn't he just...? 00:20, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I can try to fix it but my view is that G7 applies. Other editors have made edits but none are 'substantial edits '. I would add, and as you may be aware I have a reputation for saving all schools pages that are salvageable, that IMHO deletion is the best solution. Essentially, the page was OR, full of claims, some of which I couldn't source and some of which were patently false. This will allow a sensible recreation if someone is so minded. TerriersFan (talk) 00:26, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

If you believe G7 applies, then I'll certainly defer to you. I was just letting you know. I'll just delete the page as an error. seresin | wasn't he just...? 00:28, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I think that is the best. Basically one editor tried to clean it up and another restored the original content so the result was as if no edits had been made. Pragmatism rules, I think ... TerriersFan (talk) 00:31, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Kush (cannabis)

Hi again. I think I've done as much as I'm inclined to do to source this article. At this point, I think the content is reasonably sourced, so that the WP:V concerns are assuaged. That being said, I'm less satisfied that notability is established. There may be a couple more scientific sources that may have more info, but they are by subscription only. Also, I saw that kush was a cover story for High Times magazine, though I don't have access to that either. All in all, my inclination is that it's probably just notable enough, though I won't say the argument is overwhelming. I may also be a little biased now that I've spent some time working on the article. So, I won't object if you think it ought to go back to AfD, though I will probably support keeping it - unless you have an argument to talk me out of it.--Kubigula (talk) 03:47, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

My view is that you have done very well with slender material. I am not one for pushing marginal notability to AfD; life is way too short. I agree that WP:V has been met so as far as I'm concerned it's now good enough to stay. TerriersFan (talk) 05:45, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

I definitely milked all I could out of a few bits in reliable sources. I guess we'll see where it goes from here.--Kubigula (talk) 21:36, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi

Don't worry about the question I originally asked, i've deleted the old picture now.--XCheese360 (talk) 05:24, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Africa

Because it has been agreed with several other members who work on African articles that in order to set up a strong foundation to increase further coverage of settlments in Africa to avoid confusion on whether a village is a toown or a town a city it is best to have all place sin one category for a comprehensive filing system. The main towns and cities are in the lists anyway. Please trust me -see my extreme amount of work on other places in Africa and you'll relaise I have it all in order.

The next task will be to add infoboxes and locator maps to all cities and towns in Morocco and try to get the most comprehensive set and tidiest set of African geo articles as possible ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 15:13, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Basically it creates some consistency, categorically and the infrastructural change also prepares for the several hundred new articles that will be generated on places in Africa over the coming months. I am also going through every country and ensuring that they all have an infobox and locator map to improve article quality. I'll look at getting a more attractive locator map for Morocco too ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 15:23, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

E.g Karia Ba Mohamed now has an infobo and is tagged in the talk page ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 15:30, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

OK, nice work, thanks for the explanation. TerriersFan (talk) 15:49, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Clayworth

Thanks for the rescue! Ning-ning (talk) 18:19, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Beyton Middle School

• Merge/redirect to Beyton per established precedent. Mergers do not require an AfD and this need not have come here. TerriersFan (talk) 17:48, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment I don't disagree with Merge/redirect to Beyton as suggested by TerriersFan but to imply that I am wasting time by bringing this to AfD is harsh. Wikipedia even has a category 'Middle schools in England' so by no means are all redirected or merged! Paste (talk) 18:08, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Please recuse yourself

Dear TerriersFan, I kindly ask you to recuse yourself from closing further CSDs in the Judaism Project. I base this on your voting in such AfDs[2]. As I do not mean this personally and I completely assume your good faith. Thank you. Bstone (talk) 17:10, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

I removed the A7 template because it was placed contrary to policy. I have no interest in the Judaism Project but certainly will not be inhibited about actioning future CSDs that happen to be in the project. If you are unhappy about any future CSD actions then firstly raise the point here and if we can't reach agreement then take it to WP:DRV. TerriersFan (talk) 17:48, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. It is duly noted. Bstone (talk) 17:51, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Regarding Macedonian-American article

I did NOT vandalise the article, but simply removed all the POV data. There is no consensus over what should be or should not be in the article, in fact the talk page is EMPTY (except for my comment). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.195.250.2 (talk • contribs)

If you are concerned about POV then place an appropriate tag. Further page blanking will be regraded as vandalism. TerriersFan (talk) 16:42, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Re hasty deletion of Minitoke(Smoking utensil), "Category:One-hitter (Smoking reduction utensil)"etc.

Rather than try to research which stage of the article you complained of, I refer you to a recent entry in Category:Smoking cannabis-- Discussion page, concerning the need to balance the coverage of cannabis smoking, which had been slanted toward hot-burning overdose consumption methods, imitative of those used with addictive tobacco, by introducing information on miniature pipes which make it possible for a user to draw air slowly, achieve low temperature burning, and a higher yield of THC (or nicotine, as this approach offers benefits for tobacco users also). A World Health Organization press conference of February 7, 2008 will be cited in the article, with indications why a device often thought of as intended for cannabis use can save millions of lives if adopted by tobacco users.

A later effort to initiate a Category titled "One-hitter(smoking reduction utensil", which would include the articles on "One-hitter", "Midwakh," "Kiseru, and other means of non-overdose smoking, was objected to by a different editor. I have discussed that in part on User talk:Jaysweet.

As to whether some issues, such as the above, justify overriding some Wikipedia traditions, check out an article titled Wikipedia:Ignore all rules. Tokerdesigner (talk) 00:14, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Disappearance of Madeleine McCann

Okay it's been said many times that the Mccanns will not return as official suspects, in fact for months. Link it if you have a problem with my source, rather than removing it when you know damn well it is the reality of things. Also a trip to Brussels to meet MEPs one day after the Portugese police request they come back? Get beat with your edit, it was lame and you know it. Regards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Haudcivitas (talk • contribs) 01:25, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

First of all, the request to return is already in the article. Next, the sources say "But he made it clear the couple were still undecided on whether to return to the resort." so your addition is inaccurate. The McCanns feelings are not reliably sourced - being attributed to an unnamed friend - "A friend of the couple said: "Kate is upset. There's been no sense of concern for her feelings or the anguish it will cause her.". The Brussels trip is for discussion - I agree there are arguments both ways. TerriersFan (talk) 01:53, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

A note to you

Please stop undoing other people's additions. You do not have monopoly on truth or perspective. If you do not move to personally include that the Mccanns chose a high profile MEP mission one day after the Portugese Police requested their presence and two days after it was revealed that the daughter asked the night before her dissapearance "Why didn't you.." (etc, look at it now) then I will do so. You are no doubt someone who paid these people and have a vested interest of some nature. Do not threaten me again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Haudcivitas (talk • contribs) 00:03, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Arão

It's not even the size of a parish (freguesia) & appears to consist entirely of holiday homes. It's in the parish of Mexilhoeira Grande, Portimão: [3] [4] Rothorpe (talk) 15:34, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Nice research, thank you. TerriersFan (talk) 15:47, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Pleasure. And now Murat is suing all round, according to the Guardian. Rothorpe (talk) 23:25, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

A. Y. Jackson Secondary School (Ottawa, Ontario)

Could I see the original for myself, please so that I know this is the case? Thank you. GreenJoe 16:50, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. GreenJoe 17:01, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

article

You have just deleted an article which took me a long time to write. Please can you give me a chance to see the text written on the Micheal Appleby article so it doesn't go to waste and i can use it somewhere else e.g Microsoft powerpoint (not Wikipedia). Thank You. Shakaib (talk) 18:46, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Having looked again at the content I have decided that it breaches WP:BLP so it cannot exist on Wikipedia. TerriersFan (talk) 19:21, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

You complete fool! you can't just do that! you could have warned me or saved it onto sandbox for me! anyway i now do know that writing about people, biographies... is not allowed on Wikipedia. But you can't just delete my article without warning me. It was just fun, and the person i was writing about actually asked me to make an article about them! so it wasn't offensive or anything like that! you have totally Disappointed me and indeed hurt me. Sorry for calling you a fool but you have no right to do that (delete without warning or not save on sandbox). It's not right! Administrators think they rule everything and think they can do what they like without warning. Doesn't mean you are an Administrator and you can do that! Administrators should have feelings too. What a waste of time; me writing that all up! you fool. And before you say to me "I did warn you"...... you clearly didn't. It just said "speedy deletion" when i saw my talk page after i wrote the article! Shakaib (talk) 20:42, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

The content was negative, unsourced material on an identifiable individual and, therefore, I don't believe that userfying it is appropriate. However, it can be userfied by any admin and others may hold a different view. If you wish to get a second opinion then you can take it to WP:DRV and request that an admin userfies it. TerriersFan (talk) 21:15, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough, I agree with what you are saying, and I sincireely apologize.

Thanks

Shakaib (talk) 11:37, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

FWIW, I have reviewed the article in question, and I completely agree that this negative unsourced "article" about an identifiable individual is not appropriate for wikipedia, and also not appropriate for source-emailing or userfication. Jerry talk ¤ count/logs 01:42, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abhinav Education Society's College of Pharmacy ( B.Pharm.)A/P Narhe, Pune 411041

Heh, I used the "+" at the top of Neil's page without reading it, and when it saved, I saw that you beat me to it. I think this will likely go to DRV. Cheers, Jerry talk ¤ count/logs 01:38, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Feel free to move User:TerriersFan/College of Pharmacy (Pune) back into user space now - it's now a perfectly serviceable little stub. Neıl ☎ 08:57, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Apologies...

I wanted to apologize for being snippy in responding to you about the Home for Incurables disambiguation page. Even though I think your desire to delete that sort of thing is short-sighted, the simple fact that you asked if I had any plans for it before doing anything is miles beyond the degree of consideration most people show on Wikipedia, and I want to commend you for making an example of courtesy that far exceeded my own. --❨Ṩtruthious ℬandersnatch❩ 17:36, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Sources

Ref 25 is about the secret services, so is in the right place. 26 is about the search in general: 'Dozens of police officers have come from Lisbon to Lagos; and three British policemen are helping in the investigations'. So I don't think we need to move that either. Rothorpe (talk) 17:43, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks; I'm happy to go along with your view. TerriersFan (talk) 22:04, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

College of Pharmacy (Pune)

I saw that we both posted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/College of Pharmacy (Pune). I wanted to know if you had more information than I have, because I was wavering in my decision and you seemed more sure of yourself. I want to counter systemic bias, of course, but in my comparison to other US universities I don't see most colleges getting their own pages -- just their universities. (My university, for example, has only one school with its own page; the other half-dozen or so are covered only in the main university article.)

So my questions are as follows:

1. Do you agree with my assessment (based on only a few articles in my case, but they seemed representative) that most colleges don't get their own pages, or did I just have an unusual sample?
2. Do you agree with my (heretofore tacit) assumption that the College of Pharmacy is just a part of its university?
3. Do you think that, granting the above, the College of Pharmacy would be one of these notable colleges (within its university) that deserves its own article, or is it a fairly typical college in the University of Pune that merits its own article only if most colleges (within universities) do?
4. Do you have a good idea on how to go about the AfD? Regardless of the outcome, most of the !votes seemed to be uninformed.

Respectfully yours, CRGreathouse (t | c) 15:52, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for these helpful comments. My thoughts, in response to your questions, are:

1. Notability for individual colleges depends on the role the colleges play in their universities and this differs between countries. For example in the UK, the colleges in several universities are notable; for example Category:Colleges of the University of Cambridge and Category:Colleges of Durham University.
2. This College is not part of the University of Pune. It is managed by the Abhinav Education Society which has a chain of colleges. In addition to Pharmacy, there are, for example, colleges of Law, Engineering and Technology and Education. See here, here, and here. The Society is authorised by the University to award their degree but it is not part of the University.
3. Had it been that the College of Pharmacy was part of the University then there would have been insufficient material to justify a separate page.
4. I would be perfectly happy with a new page Abhinav Education Society which can cover all their constituent colleges.

HTH. TerriersFan (talk) 20:02, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Grand River Academy

Please go ahead and remove the list. That list is hurts the article with undue weight on non-encyclopedic info. • Gene93k (talk) 15:56, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry?

I really dont know what to do here?

You could request CheckUser because I can assure you that I have nothing at all to do with these accounts. I am sorry if editing an article multiple times makes me a puppeteer. I have never 'radically' removed content from London Oratory School. Most have just been spelling, removing vandalism etc. I put the Schola article for deletion for what I thought were good reasons. I have been an editor for over a year now and I have never vandalised in any way at all and I thought that I was fairly reputable. You might have to move this because I have no idea where I'm supposed to put my reply to your incorrect accusations. WazzaMan (talk) 10:39, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments that I have copied to here. TerriersFan (talk) 15:13, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Toronto Street Car Stops

Sorry about blanking the pages. Won't do it again. There are so many conventions in Wikipedia it's not always easy to foresee the ramifications of the process. I am learning fast as I am being corrected kindly by everyone else, which I do appreciate. As for the idea of redirects, these are so trivial that redirects would be silly. They whole point about these pages for each streetcar stop is that it is not a point of entry for anyone's enquiry, so no one would try to go there looking for information about the street car line. I do appreciate re-directs and have created a few myself on both the English and the Portuguese sites. Cheers, and thanks again for the heads up.Ron B. Thomson (talk) 14:35, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Adilson Melo

Funny, I just couldn't get any more information on him, even though Brazilian football players are a major commodity.--Wloveral (talk) 23:48, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Share International self published sources?

Can your please explain what you mean with your statement that the references are essentially self-published? May be I miss something, but 21 of the 22 listed references do not come close to self-published sources. Andries (talk) 06:10, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

See Share_International#References. Andries (talk) 11:53, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Request for perspective

I wonder if you would mind taking a look at Duval County Public Schools, where I merged James Weldon Johnson Middle School. User:Unschool objects at Talk:Duval County Public Schools to the table I started for content to be added. I thought this would be a good way to allow expansion of school content in a district article till break-out articles are ready. User:Unschool worries it makes district article too cluttered. Thanks, DoubleBlue (Talk) 20:23, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Userify of North Brunswick High School

The article North Brunswick High School was just speedy deleted. I'm not sure what was there, but the school had been a recent winner of the Intel Schools of Distinction‎, which would certainly be a start. If you could check out the content and userify into my user space, I would be willing to expand the article. Alansohn (talk) 17:18, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

• I guess there's room for expansion. I will take a look at other sources and create a meaningful stub. Alansohn (talk) 17:46, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

School debate

TerriersFan, if you have a chance you should look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Police invasion of UCT campus. It's a poorly-written article that seems to meet WP:V. The consensus thus far is to delete, but I think (regardless of the eventual fate of the article) that there needs to be more discussion. Your thoughts?

CRGreathouse (t | c) 20:05, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Bridlewood Community Elementary School

Good job on the work that you've done to the Bridlewood Community Elementary School article! --Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 16:40, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Fixed reference #5. The OCDSB website was revamped, and I've updated the reference so it points to the correct page. --Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 17:56, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Nipissing University

I am GREATLY offended by your edit summary that said "re-established pre-vandalised version" when I did NOT vandalise anything. I have half a mind to report this to WP:ANI. GreenJoe 00:59, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Read what I said. I never said that you vandalised anything. I said "re-established pre-vandalised version". The content "The Nipissing University Student Union Council comprises mainly of two parts: the powerful executive council and the largely uninfluential student representatives. They function in much the same way the Galactic Senate and Chancellor Palpatine co-existed, with each having incredible regard for the other's concerns. Chancellor Palpatine was a jolly sith lord and he would never have done anything to jeopardize the establishment." is plainly vandalism and the editor who inserted it will be in the history. TerriersFan (talk) 01:06, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Since GreenJoe opted not to notidy you, his thread is here 01:19, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I offer my apologies. I've had a long, crappy day and it's no excuse for my not assume good faith myself. GreenJoe 01:40, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Bhadrakali High school, Gokarna

The list notable is just to the school. Let the Wikipedia administrators decide it rather than you delete it. These are not Notable to Wikipedia. There are many sites e.g Uttar Kannada has listed people who are notable locally. Thanks. 00:09, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I agree, Uttar Kannada needs cleaning up too! Bear in mind that I defended this page so please accept my advice. TerriersFan (talk) 00:37, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Prison uniform

I tried to do an undo and after many attempts it did not work (it kept reverting back to the original page or wouldn't allow the page to be renamed which was quite frustrating). Ozdaren (talk) 16:27, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I've noticed you've recreated the earlier page. Can you please restore the later edits as they added to the article. Ozdaren (talk) 16:35, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I really don't appreciate the tone of your comments to me. I will leave this a polite address to you to please take your comments elsewhere and leave me alone. Ozdaren (talk) 16:36, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I have already restored all the edits. I am sorry that you are not happy with my 'tone' but if you re-read the comments you will see that they consist of polite requests intended both to help you and to save future work. TerriersFan (talk) 16:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Soundview School

Well, like I said, it wasn't easy to close. The only people that wish to keep stated a weak keep, and the arguments for deletion were good, so not sure why you were shocked. I'm rather iffy on merging to locality, just on principle. If you want to do that, that's your business and I of course won't stop you if you do. I just closed it by consensus in the AfD, which was to delete. Wizardman 16:33, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Oklahoma State University buildings

This AfD in which you participated last week, has been relisted for further consensus-- your preferred solution is a keep, not a merge-- but you summarized the !vote as "merge" , which would result in a forced merge, not a discussion of whether to merge. DGG (talk) 14:07, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks - I've now fixed it. TerriersFan (talk) 17:49, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

St Michael and All Angels Catholic Primary School

Apologies, I didn't not know that schools were exempt. Toytown Mafia (talk) 19:24, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

school hoop-jumping

and your comment here. I totally agree but is this message public enough -- there seem to be a ridiculous amount of schools at AfD lately from some of the same noms. It seems like 'I know the outcome but let's do this in case' it really does. Any suggestions? _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 18:27, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Smile

I'm suprised I haven't seen you around until now (take a look at our usernames). - DiligentTerrier (and friends) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

- DiligentTerrier (and friends) 17:47, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Merge & rescue

Hi.

Thanks for merging the theological school which someone wanted to delete. I appreciate your preserving the info as well as the article history. --Uncle Ed (talk) 01:51, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Hmm

Why hmm...perhaps it could? Oh mysteries! —Preceding unsigned comment added by DeluxNate (talk • contribs) 21:08, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Belair, South Australia

I notice that you change double quotes (") into single quotes (').
Why? (Is it a MoS thing? Or a British thing? Or what?)
As far as I'm aware, Australians generally use double quotes, and only use single quotes when there is something quoted within the quote. Otherwise/generally, the (') character is used as an apostophe (or in hrs/mins/secs and degrees/mins/secs).
Quotation mark doesn't seem to say anything particularly useful on the matter.
I'll be interested to read your response. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 09:43, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

P.S. What does "fpr,mat" mean? Thanks, Pdfpdf (talk) 09:46, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

ermm... 'fpr,mat' was an extremely bad typo for 'format' borne out of carelessness :-(

In the UK, and as far as I can see in the US, double quotes (") are used for direct quotations and single quotes (') for emphasis; the direct opposite to your usage. With regard to MoS please see WP:PUNC which says "Quotations are enclosed within "double quotes"." HTH. TerriersFan (talk) 15:31, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

(Sorry for the delayed reply.) Thanks for your reply. Interesting. Pdfpdf (talk) 13:04, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

BTW: My and Australian useage is not the direct opposite of UK & US usage - I must have expressed myself poorly. Yes, it would seem all three (and me too) use double quotes for direct quotation. The difference is in the use of single quotes. (And I'm not sure if that's just my usage of them.)

Anyway, I now understand you were not doing a blanket change of all double quotes to single quotes. (Yet another example of coming to the wrong conclusion based on too little data!)

Cheers and Thanks, Pdfpdf (talk) 13:04, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: Tempe Union High School District

The article has been restored. --Tom (talk - email) 20:28, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks for this prompt action. TerriersFan (talk) 20:29, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Hitler

Thank you for your kind words. Sorry about the references; I am better at historical work then at using a computer. Thank you for the advice. --A.S. Brown (talk) 22:11, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Holy Cross Secondary School (St. Catharines)

Hi, if you get a moment I wonder if you could take a look at this page please? We have an enthusiastic editor who has been adding many alumni to the article. However, though some have pages, several look non-notable. I have had an extensive tussle with him over some hype on which he was insisting but on which he now appears to have given up. Consequently, an objective view on these alumni would help. Thanks. TerriersFan (talk) 22:11, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

• I'll take a look at the article. I always try to enforce sources at these articles for notables, but the exact standard to apply can be a question. Alansohn (talk) 22:16, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Crustation article

Hi. I noticed you deleted my Crustation article for lack of notability.

While I acknowledge it is a not very known band and my article was pretty weak (for example, the red links to the band members should be removed), the album has acquired cult status among trip-hop fans, and I think it should be relisted.

It is listed on the French and German Wikipedias [5] [6]. And here's the Amazon page of the album [7]. Notice how there are some reviews about the album, so it was certainly sold comercially. Also notice that the album is out of the stock and somebody is trying to sell it for $74.

Right now I don't have much free time, but if this doesn't yet meet WP:MUSIC or WP:N tell me and I'll try to find more realiable sources when I have time. Please answer on my talk page. Thanks! --xDCDx (talk) 15:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

K2GXT AfD

Thanks for changing my second keep to comment, I was confused about how to add a second statement so I just did was I did before. KB1LQC (talk) 05:08, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Check edit

G'day TerriersFan. I noticed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Schools you have started a new section over a redirect? I think you meant your comment to go somewhere else. I was going to revert but thought it might be best for you to take a look at so you can put the message where you intended it to go. Cheers.--Sting Buzz Me... 23:03, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

The page previously redirected to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Deletion sorting, presumably because it was empty. I have undone the redirect to enable it to be used for its intended purpose; as the talk page of Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Schools. If this is incorrect please explain why? TerriersFan (talk) 23:13, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

No not incorrect now that I look at it. It just seemed odd that a new section was being placed over a redirect. I'd assumed it had been decided to redirect discussion to the Deletion sorting talk page? The talk page was on my watch list and on first glance looked like you'd made an error so I (wrongly) alerted you. Lucky I didn't revert it eh? ;-)--Sting Buzz Me... 02:51, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

No problem. :-) TerriersFan (talk) 03:41, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Question on Links

On the subject of linking to another article; if you're writing on a page, and the topic you link to has not been created, should you link it anyways? I'm fairly new and was wondering if maybe you should not link it rather than leave the word as red. Thanks! DeluxNate (talk) 21:31, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

If you are of the view that the topic to which you wish to link is notable, and is likely to get a page in the future, then the answer is yes. The advantage of linking is that when a page on the topic is created then it will be more easily found. It is important when creating the link to take care to ensure that the link name is the most likely formulation that will be used when the topic page is created. One alternative to consider, however, is to see whether the topic is already covered in another page. In such a case a redirect might be the better course of action. HTH. TerriersFan (talk) 21:56, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Image

Good evening. Did you originally upload the image on the right? It has got transferred and the 'source' field is now a bit mangled. It was used at Greater Manchester which is up at FAC, see Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Greater Manchester, but the lack of a decent 'source' led to its removal. If you could reconfirm, we can stick it back in. Regards, Mr Stephen (talk) 23:13, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes it is my photograph and I uploaded it - good innit :-) TerriersFan (talk) 14:55, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Amaral

is publishing a book - details now on Guardian website - Rothorpe (talk) 23:24, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks - I'll add it when published on Thursday. TerriersFan (talk) 14:42, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Madeleine McCann article

Didn't notice the major revision header on the article and made a slight edit to the page... In the section "Criticism of the Parents" it stated: "Following criticism in the Portuguese media of the behaviour of the McCanns, on 21 July, the Crown Prosecution Service..." I simply added 2007 to the date ("on 21 July 2007, the Crown...") to remove any ambiguity... its 21 July just now, but the CPS didn't so anything today. Apologies if this causes any edit conflicts. Malbolge (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 16:05, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

No problem; thank you for this message. TerriersFan (talk) 16:34, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for finding the refs as requested. 82.12.253.118 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 19:24, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Rudy Herman Guede.jpg)

Thanks for uploading Image:Rudy Herman Guede.jpg. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

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West Parish Elementary School Science Park

Hello,

I see that your an active member in Project Schools. Is There Anyway that we could put a tag on the article to get some more people to edit and expand it. This page needs to get alot of views so that more students can use parks like these as you probably agree that we need to expand science in the elementary schools.Thanks! CelesJalee (talk) 08:12, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

P.S. Please Respond On My Talk. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CelesJalee (talk • contribs) 08:12, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Need your expertise

Hey, I'm trying to start a collaborative effort to rid Wikipedia of some common typos and I was wondering if you would take a look at my page and see what you think of it(ways I could of wrote it better, etc). I'd really appreciate some feedback on what you think. Thanks! DxNate 09:35, 1 Sep 2024 User-Talk-Contribs

Some quick thoughts.

• On your user page I would amend 'non-admin powers' to 'non-admin tools' since even admins have tools not powers.
• On User:DeluxNate/TypoAdoption make all the headings fully lower case, except the initial letter per WP:Mos.
• On User:DeluxNate/TypoAdoption address the distinction between British and US spelling.
• Alert users to Firefox having both US and British dictionaries available as add-ons which are very useful for picking up typos. TerriersFan (talk) 15:19, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Madeleine report

Yes, there is a timeline, sort of, of the disappearance itself, although the report is mainly structured around witness statements, 'fls.', 'folhas', 'sheets'. The title, 'Relatório final', translates as 'Final report'. I hope that answers your questions. Rothorpe (talk) 19:57, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

AfD for Allapattah Flats K-8 School

Hi. Can you review my latest comment on this - you'll see why I brought it to AfD - I'd be interested in any feedback you have. Thanks. CultureDrone (talk) 16:40, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the info - that broadly seems to be my interpretation of what WP:SCHOOL was aiming at. Just one point to clarify - when you say 'high/secondary' schools are inherently notable, what do you mean by secondary in this sense - is that in the '11 year olds and up' UK sense ? That would seem rather extreme as, imho, most high schools could have a claim to notability, the vast majority of those teaching ages 11-18(ish) probably wouldn't.... Are you implying that simply because sources can be found (i.e. passing WP:V), that assertaion of any notability is unnecessary ? CultureDrone (talk) 19:01, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Secondary is generally considered to be schools that educate to age 16 (Fifth form in UK/Grade 9 in US). NB In the UK the majority of secondary schools now don't have sixth forms. Schools that educate only to lesser ages are middle schools and are usually nn. I have followed many hundreds of secondary school AfDs. The outcome is invariably that they are kept. My view is that with the 000s and 000s of nn primary school sub-stubs that need sorting out, and are largely non-controversial, why spend time on controversial high schools? In any case how does WP, which is chock full of popular culture crap, benefit from the deletion of public sector institutions? TerriersFan (talk) 19:31, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

It just seems out of keeping with other areas of WP. Basically, this is a guideline that implies that if your school teaches children up to the age of 11, it's probably not deserving of an article (except in a few, rare cases), but if you teach children over the age of 11 then it almost definately is, whether you're a well-known prep school or some 10 pupil shack in the middle of a US desert (a slight exaggeration perhaps, but basing the decision just on the ages of the children, rather than on the school itself seems rather arbritrary and out of keeping with other WP policies/guidelines). As for how does it benefit to delete public sector institutions, then tell me how it benefits WP to include articles that often tell me no more than the name of the school, its address, and a website...:-) CultureDrone (talk) 19:40, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

The consensus came from the view that high schools both have a community presence and an effect on the future lives of their students that elementary schools don't have. Adopting a common approach also aids consistency and saves everyone's time. I agree with you that directory-only entries are of little value but they are stubs and like all stubs are there not for their intrinsic value but to allow growth. The way with them, as with all stubs, is to expand them to something useful. TerriersFan (talk) 19:48, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

It wasn't the high schools that I was whining about ;-) Nor the primary (up to age 11'ish) - it's the 11-16yo(ish) age range. In your initial reply to me you said "High/secondary schools are kept ... Primary/middle schools are generally merged/redirected to the locality" - in your reply above, you said "Secondary is generally considered to be schools that educate to age 16" - so I took that as saying "up to age 11, nn (except in rare cases), over age 11 default notable", and it's that I can't understand - is there some grey area over the use of 'secondary' and 'middle' that I'm not getting to grips with ? CultureDrone (talk) 20:02, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Generally:

• Primary schools 5-11
• Middle schools anything 9-14
• Secondary schools 11-16 or 11-18.

HTH. TerriersFan (talk) 20:44, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Umm..not exactly :-) Based on what you said before, that means that middle school A which teaches 10-14 year olds isn't nn, but secondary school B which teaches 11-16 is nn. The only difference is that school B teaches 15 and 16 year olds. No wonder I try and steer clear of school articles ! :-) Thanks for your time CultureDrone (talk) 20:53, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Err, no; primary/middle schools, as defined above are nn but secondary schools are notable. Teaching 15/16 year olds is what causes the difference. TerriersFan (talk) 21:14, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Whoops - I used 'nn' there for 'normally notable', rather than 'not notable' - sorry for the confusion ! :-) CultureDrone (talk) 21:19, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Amaral book

we dont recite unproven allegations sourced or not? well the article sources a newspaper saying " And one of the McCanns' two Portuguese lawyers, Carlos Pinto Abreu, told Lisbon radio station TSF that Mr Amaral's comments were "in very poor taste" and "unhelpful to the investigation".

"The British police have only been working on that which the McCann couple want them to and which is most convenient for them," he said.

"The have only investigated tips and information developed and worked on for the McCanns, forgetting that the couple are formal suspects in the death of their daughter Madeleine.".

This was denied by Mr Amaral, so the article sources unproven allegations.Also i believe that the article on his book is interesting regarding the whole story about madelaine.Erasing it is pure vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.154.215.29 (talk) 03:47, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of elc International school, urgent

Hey, a couple days ago you contested against User:Avraham that elc International school is not a notable school. Officials from the school has contacted me about the article and that they would like it removed, otherwise as a student I might be well..sought after. Could you please remove it ASAP? Thanks, --Hanaichi 10:50, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Derrick Lonsdale Article

Please come back to the talk page of the Derrick Lonsdale article to discuss. I've spent the last year studying Lonsdale's work and corresponding with him. Doesn't that put me in a good position to expand on his biographical stub? I want to be helpful to Wikipedia readers. I don't have any POV issues here. I want to represent Lonsdale's life and work with neutrality. If you delete instead of editing, I'll stop writing and the article will evolve more slowly and without the benefit of my knowledge.shbrown (talk) 19:57, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Elementary etc schools

Hi there. I did have a stab this afternoon at merging then redirecting a whole load of these school articles (almost all junior highs as i recall). I think I got all of them, but the speed they were being added was too much at one point! I think i've explained sufficiently to the editors that they should add junior and elementary schools to the summary article, and i think they've got it now. I really didn't want to get sucked into this whole edit phase as it's pushed my watchlist over the 600 mark which is my cue to seriously prune it. I'm not now watching any of them. If you want me to monitor them again, please let me know and I'll pick them back up. :) --Ged UK (talk) 16:35, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

I think that you have done a fantastic job. Sadly, as you will see here, there are many elementary schools as well. Unfortunately they have been redirected to various locations which makes them hard to find :-( I see no reason for you to watch list the individual articles since I don't think that the redirects will be undone. TerriersFan (talk) 16:49, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

I'll pick those up tomorrow evening then (or maybe when I'm at work if i can find the time!). --Ged UK (talk) 21:07, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

1987 New York Giants season

Thank you for your comments on the proposed deletion. I have added content and am working on adding content to other season pages like that one. Cheers Maple Leaf (talk) 22:50, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Madison High School (Madison, Ohio) Events section

I checked out the sources you referenced and the story is from another high school that happens to be called Madison High School, happens to be in Ohio, and happens to have a teacher/coach named Wagner. Definitely didn't happen at the school that article is about, though. Steebster (talk) 01:48, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Whoops

On a recent CSD nom I made, would you please disclose the username of the initial author of Evane1890? Apparently I was incorrect to assume that that was his username, and posted to a non-existant user's talk page. MrZaius^talk 16:42, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

User:Evane1890 created the page Evane1890 and, apart from yourself, was the only contributor. TerriersFan (talk) 16:47, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Ah - Just hadn't touched anything else. I should sleep more. Thanks! MrZaius^talk 15:20, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Veritas Classical Christian School Entry Deleted

I understand that the content was considered to be copyright, but there were other deletion comments related to "advertising" or "not notable". I understand, but I based the pattern of the entry on other public schools in the area. Example Monacan High School. It seems to me that no school is more or less notable than another. Other area public and private schools have entries that are allowed. I rewrote the page Veritas Classical Christian School to eliminate any material that was not my own work and referenced the source for my entry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by A junk one (talk • contribs) 23:22, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

I think that a case can be made for notability but the article needs to stick to the facts and source those - see WP:RS. Better examples to consult are Sumner High School (St. Louis) and The Bear Creek School. I suggest that you create a version in user space at User:A junk one/Veritas Classical Christian School, first, on which I should be pleased to comment. TerriersFan (talk) 23:50, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

British Journal of General Practice

Good solution, thanks. Didn't think of that. Millstream3 (talk) 11:01, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

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Our Lady of Perpetual Help School - redirect

Hiya, hope all is well. Thanks for your input on the OLPHS AfD! It may have been your intention (I know you're an admin), but the redirect you put in did not work automatically. For a hard-redirect to transclude automatically it has to be the first line of code in the page. I've fixed it and closed the discussion now (I was tackling the backlog on AfD). Thanks! :-) Fr33kman^{talk APW} 00:39, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for tidying up after me and taking the trouble to alert me. However, I was aware that the redirect wouldn't work, and I didn't want it to because it would have concealed the AfD template. Essentially I had set everything up for the redirect in the expectation that the closing editor would activate it, just as you did, if that was the way the AfD was closed. TerriersFan (talk) 00:45, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

HenryBarnardSchool

I appreciate your input regarding the req. for deletion of 'Henry Barnard School', an article I created. Understanding a little more about site policies such as notability criteria, I totally agree that the content could and should be merged to the school district article. A number of my contributions have been met with resistance from a user who apparently has a negative history or personal issue with this specific community and its sub-pages. Your objectivity is reassuring to newbies such as myself. cheers--Geezalou (talk) 15:12, 15 September 2008 (UTC)