User talk:The Ogre/archive3

Images

Please explain how you have deemed images of landmarks to be 'inappropriate' to an article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.20.14.180 (talk) 15:41, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

An extra two images especially on the porto page will not jeopardise the integrity of wikipedia!!! thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.20.14.180 (talk) 15:46, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

ALERT!!! PLEASE HELP!!!

Please help!! There is a vandal vandalising the Ferrol entry his user name is User:CJ please help me stoping him!!!! Thanx in advance!!! :'[

--Colin Gleen (talk) 16:58, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Lisbon/Porto pages

Wikipedia is a MULTIMEDIA encyclopaedia, thus your argument that images prove detrimental to wikipedia is flawed. They are not only illustrative but beneficial to the comprehension of an article's context. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.188.55.113 (talk) 21:20, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

I have to agree with this. While the Porto article was perhaps a bit too cluttered with images in the earlier edit, you removed far too many and made the ones left very small. One of the images removed was a featured image, that shows the beauty of Porto in ways that a load of words could not express, as corny as that may sound. I would like to work towards some sort of compromise to make the article as best as possible.Norman22b (talk) 00:25, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Agreed, the gallery wasn't necesary. From the looks of it the anon user just reverted to the previous edit, which was wrong in itself given that there were quite a few other edits not relating to images after your edits. As far as creating a compromise goes, I too am fairly happy with how the article is now. I would perhaps thing about upping the size of [this image] as well as [this one] if you agree? cheers Norman22b (talk) 16:27, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Template:Monarchs of Portugal

Maria II was made Queen of Portugal BEFORE AND AFTER Miguel. Learn our history before editing 89.155.96.45 (talk) 16:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry if I seemed too rude my friend. The way it is now is chronological correct. Stay well ; ) 89.155.96.45 (talk) 16:36, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

By the way, if Beatrice is considered Queen of Portugal, does her husband, Juan I of Castile, need to be in this template (like Peter III and Ferdinand II are)? I don't think that portuguese historians considered him a king, but I can answered that later 89.155.96.45 (talk) 16:47, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Well she was de jure Queen, so I think one can add his name in the template. Beatrice rulled the country with him and that makes him a king consort. I don't know if you can read portuguese but if you can take a look at this [1] it is about a council that rulled Portugal between Henry and Anthony 89.155.96.45 (talk) 17:37, 7 April 2008 (UTC) ps: I edited the template again. This time Afonso V renunced his title and his son, John II, replaced him, but after some days the former king decided to return thus becaming king a second time. After his death John II, again, replaced him also becaming a king a second time. If you know things like this I urged you to edit the template. Be cool 89.155.96.45 (talk) 18:06, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

March 2008

Thank you for making a report on Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. Reporting and removing vandalism is vital to the functioning of Wikipedia and all users are encouraged to revert, warn, and report vandalism. However, administrators are generally only able to block users if they have received a recent final warning (one that mentions that the user may be blocked) and they have recently vandalized after that warning was given. The reported user has not yet been blocked because it appears this has not occurred yet. If this user continues to vandalize even after their final warning, please report them to the AIV noticeboard again. Thank you! Tiptoety ^talk 22:19, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Azerbaijan

For your information, Azerbaijan is a full member of the Council of Europe and geographically is partially in Europe, unlike Armenia which is fully located in Asia and which has likewise been associated for millennia with the Iranian and Turkic cultural milieu, but which you decided to include into Europe nonetheless. Just because the name of a country doesn't sound usual to a Western Anglophone ear doesn't mean it is geographically isolated from Europe. Modern Azerbaijan, having been part of the Russian Empire and the USSR for centuries, in fact shares a lot more similarities with Europe in terms of lifestyles than with Oman or Yemen. There is no basis in your attempts to present Georgia and Armenia as European and Azerbaijan as Asian, except your cultural prejudice. I suggest you examine this 'Countries of Europe' template before you make anymore reverts.

Spanish in Philippines

I think that is needed to paint Philippines in the spanish language map, because there are 1,816,389 speakers as a second lenguage and 689,000 chavacano speakers (spanish creole). Total: 2.450.000 speakers. Fuente: Instituto Cervantes, 1997. Some sources says that there are more than 1 million chavacano speakers. Another figure is 2,900,000 spanish speakers [2].

I know that there are only 2,658 native speakers according to census 1990, but this census also says that there are only 32,802 native speakers of english [3], and in the map of english language, Philippines is with colour. The same happens with another countries like India. There are only around 200,000 native speakers. Then, I think that it´s necesary to paint colour to Philippines in the spanish map. --Migang2g (talk) 02:41, 6 April 2008 (UTC) 99.226.143.206 (talk) 04:48, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Portugal

Olá. Ainda bem que verificaste isto, bem me quis parecer que aquelas alegações eram um bocado estranhas. Saudações, Húsönd 00:10, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Eu

Olha, afinal tenho 2,916 edits. É muito ou pouco? Velho (talk) 01:52, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Image:Maud of Savoy.jpg

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Suleimão

Anda lá um gajo a moer-me o juízo com a porra do Oceano Índico... Velho (talk) 01:32, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

A malta

Estive a corrigir à bruta e a pôr uma introdução nos Tugas. Velho (talk) 00:30, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Joan of Portugal

Wikipedia says Joan was born 31 March 1439,but many Portuguese sites give her birthdate as 20 March 1439.Would you happen to know which date is correct?Thank you.15:46, 14 April 2008 (UTC)jeanne (talk)

Imperio colonial Francês

Achei o mapa do French colonial empires estranho. Se Portugal fez parte do império colonial francês e foi uma colónia da França tenho que queimar meus livros. 89.180.2.233 (talk) 18:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

List of Celtic place names in Portugal

Acabei de criar a página List of Celtic place names in Portugal. Talvez queira dar uma olhada nela. Em português [4]foi posta para eliminação, embora não entendi porquê já que há outras similares. Obrigado.Casae (talk) 20:11, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Neutral language

[5] Sure Sir! As you please! If the white man doesn't like it it is not neutral , isnt it??--Deepak D'Souza (talk • contribs) 05:19, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Dutch Empire

Oh dear, another map-related edit war is ensuing this time on the Dutch Empire. I don't know if your interests extend to the colonies of your erstwhile enemies (at least in the 1600s) but this user has coloured half of Iran as Dutch as well as making various unsourced changes. Anyway, your thoughts would be appreciated. The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick ^t 23:16, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

A reference has been listed, the one above claims it is unreliable. I sincerly doubt that. He listed where he got all of his information from, and "half of Iran" would be closer to the coast of Iran. (Red4tribe (talk) 23:20, 25 April 2008 (UTC))

Thanks for your input. I think, until this has been resolved, that the map should simply be removed from the article. As I am seriously in danger of being blocked, would you care to remove it from Dutch Empire? The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick ^t 15:58, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Where I am getting this information from,colonial voyage, has all of his references listed where he has gotten his information from. Now, maybe I am wrong, but how is this not credible? I am not going to buy 200 books just to make sure he interpretated the information correctly as red hat has said. Would you please explain to me how this is not credible? (Red4tribe (talk) 16:11, 26 April 2008 (UTC))

The reason why this is not acceptable is explained at WP:SPS. The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick ^t 16:16, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Romance-speaking states of Europe

Template:Romance-speaking states of Europe has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you.--DerRichter (talk) 02:50, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

R1b

The latest research concerning the genetic characteristics and age of human paternal lineages indicate R1b is much younger than previously believed. Although the research doesn't indicate the precise age of R1b, its parent haplogroup, R1, was stimated to be 18,500 years old, thus R1b cannot be 30,000 years old.[6] See also: [7] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.70.30.218 (talk) 18:13, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

advice

Am I wrong about this and the paragraph preceeding? Can you make a constructive comment? Slrubenstein | Talk 22:37, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Request for favour

Hi there. You may remember me giving you a hard time over accuracies in Portuguese maps - ie, the Indonesian bits - which you handled very well. Fancy a new challenge? There is a discussion] about the VOC maps. We have a disputed map - which is not a bad start - but has some problems with the Indonesia bit. Are you aware of the history of the VOC? well, i hope the discussion clarifies where we are at. The second map in the talk page section is a bit better representation of the situation at 1800 (red bits). Could you (a) offer some advice, or even (b) do some work on this map? --Merbabu (talk) 12:04, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

More map stuff

Hi there Ogre. You may be interested in another dispute about the Spanish Empire map. [8] This time, it's about the extent of the Viceroyalty of Peru. I would be interested in your views, because it could be argued several ways, though I am firmly of one opinion. Thanks! The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick ^t 12:28, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Adding some composers to your French people montage

Hi Ogre, I like the montage of famous French men and women you've contributed to the article on the French people, but although it contains a number of artists and literary figures I notice there are no composers in it. Perhaps you could add images of one or two of the many famous and historically significant French composers, such as Jean-Philippe Rameau, Hector Berlioz, Claude Debussy, etc? Many thanks. 90.205.92.1 (talk) 04:25, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Please see Talk:French people/Photos, Talk:French people/Pictures - a global proposal and Talk:French people/Vote. Thanks. The Ogre (talk) 13:13, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

So this was subject to a vote? That's ridiculous. But it doesn't really surprise me. Western culture currently has a bias towards popular music and literature, so a vote like that is likely to reflect such a bias. I thought the purpose of Wikipedia was to be objective and factual, not simply to reflect current taste. To have a list of famous French people and omit some of the most important Classical composers in history from it (Berlioz, Debussy, Ravel) is shocking. 90.205.92.1 (talk) 16:54, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Maybe. But who is to define objectivity and factuality? The Ogre (talk) 12:15, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Well it would seem that Wikipedia informally defines objectivity/factuality as 'if enough people say it's true, it's true'. Or at least, that seemed to be the criterion in this instance. Anyone who has a degree of knowledge of music history will know that there are a number of French composers who are of huge historical significance (Berlioz and Debussy in particular). There are many books, essays and conventional encyclopaedia articles which attest to this fact (indeed Wikipedia's own article on Debussy states that 'Debussy was not only among the most important of all French composers but also was a central figure in all European music at the turn of the twentieth century.'). Yet the photo-montage in the article ignores this, being simply reflective of current popular taste. Surely this is unencyclopaedic. 90.212.113.72 (talk) 17:39, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

You should take up the issue at the French people talk page, then. Notice however that that picture is just an example, and not intended to represent all of the noteworthy French. Furthermore, according to policy, Wikipedia is not about the truth, but about what people (sources) discuss is the truth. The Ogre (talk) 10:34, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I will do that. But the content of Wikipedia is meant to be notable and verifiable knowledge. That the composers I have mentioned are historically significant is notable and verifiable; however, their omission from the montage was simply due to a popular vote, with all the arbitrariness that that entails.

I will not trouble you on this matter again. Many thanks for your constructive comments. :) 90.205.92.146 (talk) 16:53, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Reconquista template

Hy there, I want to ask you if there is any way to have the Reconquista template (which shows several battles) always in the open option in the Reconquista article. Its default form seems to be closed. Thanks Flamarande (talk) 09:01, 5 July 2008

Obrigado. I'm willing to improve the article "Reconquista" alone (edit conflicts are a bother, and to be honest I work best alone at articles when I want to work at all - one user = a single comprehensive logic for a whole article) but if you happen to find anything wrong in the article please tell me so at the articles talkpage. I like to think that my edits have been fair and reasonable. It will take quite some time (months) until I'm satisfied but "mais vale devagar é bem do que tudo as três pancadas, como sempre aconteçe num certo país que a gente conheçe" :) :(. Flamarande (talk) 14:23, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Ashkenazi Jews

If Ashkenazi Jews are to be classified as Germanic, classify Sephardi Jews as Italic - however, Afro-Asiatic is a far more apt designation, because it is universally recognized that both Jewish populations are of an ultimately and overwhelmingly Afro-Asiatic background, genetically and historically.

Race

I noticed that my edits were being reverted. Race is certainly a concept that has much credibility and a minority say that race is just a social concept. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rushlow (talk • contribs) 22:04, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Madeira work group

You have a point. For what it's worth, the work group, like a lot of others, was created to be as it were a "joint" subproject of both the project for the region in which it is included and its "home" country. In fact, I seem to remember having set up the banner in such a way that it assessed for the Madeira group as well as WikiProject Africa and WikiProject Portugal. Part of the reason for setting it up under the region was the possibility/probability that content related to native lifeforms, geography, and the like would be better known by members of the regional project, while the political content would be better known by the members of the "political" parent project. At this point, though, considering that it would probably mean adjustment's to the Africa project's banner, you'd probably want to contact them about it. I will try to do the rest of the assessments for the region, and maybe adjust the banner myself to make the work group visible, later this week, possibly today, more likely in a few days. John Carter (talk) 14:06, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Like I said, the Africa project banner currently automatically assesses for WikiProject Portugal as well with only that one banner, thus reducing the number of banners required on the talk page. If the Portugal project banner could be adjusted to do the same for Africa, I doubt there would be any real objections, but because it would probably involve changes to the Africa project's banner it probably would be best to seek and get their approval first. John Carter (talk) 14:16, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

It could be. Right now, though, as it is the Africa banner being used, it made sense for it to be named as a subproject of Africa. It is currently listed as a task force on the main Portugal project page, and it probably wouldn't be objected to if the name you suggested were made a redirect to the existing page. But you'd probably want consensus before actually moving the extant page. John Carter (talk) 14:55, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

• Thank you for the invitation into the Madeira work group. However, I think I am busy enough sticking to the mainland. And I doubt if I could add anything on Madeira topics. Ron B. Thomson (talk) 18:19, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Olá

De novo venho pedir ajuda. Não sei se pode ajudar na wiki-pt [9] e rever um trecho de treze linhas e 22 referências que adicionei na secção "Nomes e terminologia". Estou numa rixa com um editor que altera tudo o que escrevo. Obrigado. Casae (talk) 01:33, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Izmir lee, again

I've opened a sockpuppetry case against him here [10]. Feel free to add your own evidence. He is being extremely disruptive, resorting to massive canvassing [11], and unfortunately, Ryan is away at the moment. --Tsourkpk (talk) 19:56, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the help in the case. You made some good points and helped turn things around, as they were getting out of hand. Keep up the good work. --Tsourkpk (talk) 15:30, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

for Muslims...

Hi, are you racist? Why are you deleting in there and there to Turkic and Muslim countries? Wikipedia don't agree to racist... i will complaint to you... I think, it won't displaying...*** Эɱ®εč¡κ ***^{and his friend} 20:40, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

• This is not personal attack. I want to warn only, but you make vandalism!.. Please read again to my message, and you think now. If you won't make vandalism again, then i will be silent...

This is your vandalism events :

• Page 1 : Armenia is in Asia as fully, but Turkey and Kazakhstan has some European area. So, why Armenia is in "Europe", but "Turkey" and "Kazakhstan" is in Asia?*** Эɱ®εč¡κ ***^{and his friend} 17:09, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Sikanian

Just to let you know, our anon. editor thinks he has sources (amateur websites), and doesn't seem to understand they aren't acceptable per guidelines. He gets quite irate when told this. kwami (talk) 15:30, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

White People

Why stop there? If you want more detail might as well list every single European country. CenterofGravity (talk) 17:59, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Template:African Diaspora

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Template:African diaspora. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. 88.255.188.188 (talk) 17:33, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for notifying me! [12] I knew I should have gotten some more sleep last night.. :) Cheers JdeJ (talk) 13:02, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Galardões

Poças, ainda estou muito abaixo na escala, depois de anos nisto.... Velho (talk) 16:21, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Não, não

Já tou a dormir. Velho (talk) 04:13, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of "Aiav"

A page you created, Aiav, has been tagged for deletion, as it meets one or more of the criteria for speedy deletion; specifically, it redirects from an implausible misspelling.

You are welcome to contribute content which complies with our content policies and any applicable inclusion guidelines. However, please do not simply re-create the page with the same content. You may also wish to read our introduction to editing and guide to writing your first article.

Thanks. BigHairRef | Talk 20:57, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi, the reason I tagged this for deletion is that it is an unlikely spelling of the redirect which additionally dosen't specify that it is a cross-namespace redirect and additionally the pages WP:AIV, Wikipedia:AIV and WP:Administrator intervention against vandalism already exist. Hope that clarifies the issue. BigHairRef | Talk 21:03, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry forgot to also include the page WP:AIAV which also links to the same place and therefore is a duplicate link. I'm not an admin so I don't delete pages directly but an admin will look at the tag and make a decision based on whether or not it would be useful given the current redirects already. BigHairRef | Talk 21:10, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Avienus

Thank you for the correction. I was wondering if you might be able to help with my question at Talk:Avienus Lucian Sunday (talk) 13:32, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Moors

Greetings. I've noticed you've been valiantly attempting to protect the Moors page from vandalism over the past few days. Thought you'd like to know that there is an editor that appears to now be trying to move the article in a distinctly Afrocentric direction. He even substituted one of the current images for several others including this one, which he then described with the following phrase: "A 17th century Dutch painting of their image of a Moor: clearly a black African." I've restored the images, but you still might want to keep an eye on the page. Cheers, Causteau (talk) 04:07, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Ah. I'm that editor. I see what the problem was. No I'm not an Afrocentrist and I was not trying to make some play on what the "racial" basis of people in Anadalus were. I was trying to point out that the people LABELED as Moors by Europeans (mostly NORTHERN Europeans) collects a huge group of unrelated peoples. I also removed a romantic era painting of an Egyptian by a Frenchman. I rally don't care what skin tone people in 13th century Spain had, but I was more interested expanding the discussion of "Moor" as a portmanteau term. A useful exercise might be to compare and contrast the use of Saracen and Moor, at one time interchangeable in coastal areas of the central Mediterranean, but differentiated by the Second Crusade (for obvious reasons). I'm not going to push this, or make huge changes to the article unilaterally, but I think it's a discussion worth having, as the article is a real mess. I would also appreciate it if editors were to assume good faith and not label my good faith edits vandalism. T L Miles (talk) 14:41, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Your recent changes

To the map template. After encountering it on the Greater Europe page, I see you have been trying to change the maps. After investigating, it appears it was you that tagged those maps as factual anyway. Please discontinue this POV pushing. Maltalia (talk) 13:02, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Insult? Where anywhere was there an insult? Maltalia (talk) 13:49, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

I sincerely apologise if I failed to show good faith, and I hasten to reassure you that I was in no means attempting to insult. I have replied at the page with my views. I also think we may need to semi-protect the talk page, based on the latest IP edit there. Maltalia (talk) 16:39, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Can I just ask

What was the reason for this revert? Maltalia (talk) 20:40, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Tás sem mail?

Velho (talk) 22:32, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Ham

I was trying to work out where the last non-vandalized edit was, the user Scouse God was vandalizing which I picked up using Huggle. I fixed it now, I rolled it back to the 12 of August. It appears it has been vandalized for some time.--Theoneintraining (talk) 14:46, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

de:Portugiesen

Hi, this is just to inform you that we have made some changes in the mentioned article. It's still far from good, but it should no longer reflect a racialist point of view – you were perfectly right in criticising that. Best wishes, --SCPS (talk) 13:17, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Madeira work group

HI. I;ve moved it from wikiproject africa to wikiproject portugal. I brought the issue up with John Carter several months ago but he isn't here at present The Bald One ^{White cat} 13:55, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes I absolutely agree with you. When John Carter started them though I think he was thinkiing geographically in terms of the African plate as you said. Yes I am aware that it is currently under Africa's banner. In my view Madeira and Azores are definately under Portugal and I'd imagine most would agree. 'Fraid I ain't much good on template documentation. As John isn't here perhaps ask User:Black Falcon (who is also on a short break I think or see if User:Nishkid64 knows anything about it. Regards The Bald One ^{White cat} 17:03, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank You!

I appreciate your help very much --Thorseth (talk) 17:53, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Catalan

The Catalan name of your nick should be L'ogre. "El" before vowel is "L' ". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.31.233.208 (talk) 18:34, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Admin Assitance

{{adminhelp}} I seem, not willingly, to have created a sort of sock account - this happened when I was creating my registration at the Catalan wiki. Suddenly I was also editing as El Ogre here at the English one! How could this be? Can an admin delete that non-existent user? And explain what happened (I did even logged out here, I was just immediately transformed into a new user!). Thank you. The Ogre (talk) 19:50, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Administrators can't delete accounts, only bureaucrats can. I wouldn't worry about it though, as long as you're not using this "sock" to skirt rules or try to avoid consensus there's no issue and nobody will care. As for how it happened, maybe you have unified login? Oren0 (talk) 01:10, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

L'Orco

Per confermare che tu sei it:Utente:L'Orco e en:User:The Ogre, scrivi OK qui sotto. Grazie, Ary29 (talk) 14:43, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

OK, sono io! Grazie tante Ary29! The Ogre (talk) 15:05, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Bene, adesso sei it:Utente:The Ogre. Ciao, Ary29 (talk) 15:11, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Unified Account

Ok, obrigado, mas o problema é que há outros «Velho»s na portuguesa e na alemã (fui eu que os fiz e entretanto deixei de conseguir aceder-lhes). Velho (talk) 16:44, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Vandalisme

Deixa ja de cometre actes en vandalisme a la Viquipèdia en espanyol i en català. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.25.107.48 (talk) 19:47, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

The Ogre

Are you Spanish or Portuguese? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.139.105.10 (talk) 13:46, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Re. Várias coisas

Olá The Ogre! :-) Já tinha pensado em aderir ao login unificado, acho que ainda só não o fiz devido àquela falta de paciência e letargia sintomáticas do Verão (que aliás também se reflectem no decréscimo da minha actividade na própria Wikipédia inglesa)... :-P Logo à noite já vejo se me debruço por fim no login unificado. Obrigado pelo empurrãozinho. :-) Estive a dar uma olhada às discussões daquelas imagens do Império espanhol. Creio que a disputa é com alguns editores que acham que porque Portugal esteve temporariamente sob domínio Habsburgo, que passámos nesse período a fazer parte do império espanhol? Apesar de nunca ter havido anexação do Reino de Portugal por parte do Reino de Espanha, não me admiraria que nos livros escolares espanhóis a coisa seja descrita como se durante 60 anos andássemos todos felizes a tocar castanholas por cá. :-) Logo já leio melhor as discussões e talvez intervenha. Abraços, Húsönd 15:11, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Relações entre Espanha e Portugal

Porque é que estás sempre a alterar a parte que fala da Portugaliza? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.139.105.10 (talk) 15:22, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Spanish people

mtDNA contribution of NW Africa to Iberia is not 10% but 18 %.

Excerpt from "mtDNA Sequences Show Multidirectional Gene Flow in the Western Mediterranean (S. Plaza, 2003)"

"Haplogroup U6 is present at frequencies ranging from 0 to 7% in the various Iberian populations, with an average of 1.8%. Given that the frequency of U6 in NW Africa is 10%, the mtDNA contribution of NW Africa to Iberia can be estimated at 18%, with a 95% confidence interval of 8%-26%"

Vandalism was made by 200.121.244.181 on 4 March 2008 (Revision as of 04:05, 4 March 2008)[13] who replace the right figure of 18% with a wrong value.

So please dont change the figures as the ones specified now are absolutely correct.--90.14.105.62 (talk) 12:20, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Apologies for the misunderstanding. The fact that you used a potentially misleading edit summary (ie "typo") to amend a paragraph that you had not edited in the first place looked certainly suspicious to me at the time. Regards, Asterion^talk 13:17, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Likewise! Regards.The Ogre (talk) 14:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Hispanophone World Map Update

Dear Mr. The Ogre

Please, take a look to this talk: [14]

I need your opinion in order to update the Hispanophone World Map and if you agree with the new changes.

Sincerely Ascosphaera (talk) 18:15, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Spanish Map

Hi there Ogre. Thanks for the tip about unified logins - I did that per your suggestion. Regarding the map though, I don't speak Portuguese so it's difficult for me to contribute. My view is that there is a lot of crap on the Wikimedia Commons, and as long as it doesn't enter the English Wikipedia, I don't get too fussed about it. The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick ^t 00:08, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Probable Searchtruthseeker sockpuppet

I knew he was a sockpuppet. He was eager to write about recent genetic results and his collaboration was valid, although not following the rules of Wikipedia and with many faults I am trying to correct. I believe it is a case of guidance and some control.

--Quissamã (talk) 13:54, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Historical Powers

Could you explain your reasons for reverting the map change on this article? Usergreatpower (talk) 17:37, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

User:Opinoso Disruptive Behavior

User:Opinoso insists in disruptive behavior and edition war in Italian_Brazilian article.

He does not want that tags be placed in the text asking to to provide reliable sources to controversial facts.

The same User:Opinoso has a long history of disruptive behavior in Portuguese Wikipedia. He is not fit to group work, is renowned for insulting everyone that has a different opinion and does not seem to have a good knowledge of any field that he pretends to contribute.

--Quissamã (talk) 01:38, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

List_of_municipalities_of_Portugal

List of municipalities of Portugal is a Featured List, but has been at Wikipedia:Featured_list_removal_candidates/List_of_municipalities_of_Portugal#List_of_municipalities_of_Portugal for some time now, with no improvements. Sadly, it's looking increasingly likely that it'll lose its star, which would be a shame.

I invite you (or other editors with an interest in Portugal) to come to the FLRC and see if the status can be saved. My hunch is that it doesn't look like it's an extremely tough job to rescue it... --Dweller (talk) 11:14, 9 September 2008 (UTC) (FLRC Director)

Ron Brown

Please, take a look at my page and look at the trouble I have been getting into with people who don't want me to put down the facts about Ron Brown's death. I have articles from sources such as Newsweek, and The New York Times referenced, and some ready from the San Jose Mercury News. The Wallstreet Underground was a very respectable journal. The reference I made to it was never sued for libel. Please, help John Blyth otherwise known as thrutheseasons.

Peruvian sock

Let me know if you think if Andalusian people or Spanish people need to be semiprotected. The "Telefonica de Peru" (20x.xxx.xxx.xxx) guy (ie User:Gonbal2 editing without logging in) is back with a vengeance... --Asterion^talk 18:19, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I do think they need to be semiprotected against the same old Peruvian vandal! Cheers. The Ogre (talk) 10:21, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Beluga

Regarding this edit summary: Duh! I knew that, but typed it up wrong! Thanks very much for catching and fixing my mistake. Kafziel ^{Complaint Department} 17:07, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Gonbal2

Have you noticed similar editing/reverting/edit warring patterns between Gonbal2 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and any other editors? The account has been active since March of 2007, but the editing pattern it displays strikes me as odd. The editor never seems to make edits for more than about 3 or 4 days in a stint before disappearing for weeks or months at a time. This pattern is very indicative that the account might be a sockpuppet made specifically for participating in edit wars. If this is the case, I'd like to file a checkuser report to block all of the editors accounts indefinitely. Please take a look at Gonbal2's contributions and see if anything jogs your memory. Thanks! Ioeth _{(talk contribs friendly)} 17:49, 3 October 2008 (UTC)http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_Ogre&action=edit

FYI

[15] The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick ^t 23:16, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

White Americans

• Care to explain why you reverted my edits, and feel that Iranian Americans, Arab Americans and Turkish Americans somehow demand a related article link all their own, but every other group deemed "white" by the U.S Government does not? A discussion for this was already taking place, here[16] and here[17], and you chose not to participate. The Scythian 16:13, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Sockpuppets

I am pretty sure that all the following are sockpuppets of the same user:

• Birdcatdog (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• 987a123 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Spiritdog (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• MayB2B (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Xtra2 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Jonyjohn (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Thebig123 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Eveeye (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• 888aaa (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• 999aaa (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• 80.58.205.44 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• 80.58.205.99 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

As for User:Gonbal2, I don't think it's a sockpuppet of the above users because the main thing that user edits is Spanish people by adding in the CIA Factbook definition. I don't think User:Wikfanzine is a sockpuppet of the ones listed above because that user put on the Talk:Latino (demonym) page that Europeans are not Latinos, but the above editors kept trying to introduce that Hispanic and Latinos were of any Romance-speaking background. It's possible that User:Littlejimmie is a sockpuppet of User:Wikfanzine, as he was removing Spanish Americans from Template:Hispanic and Latino Americans. In August, there was a user that kept trying to removed Spanish Americans from Template:Hispanic and Latino Americans, but I can't remember who that was. I don't know how to report sockpuppets because it's hard to tell which one is the main account. Kman543210 (talk) 17:44, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

WP:SSP and WP:RFCU are where to go to report sockpuppets, Kman543210. It doesn't matter if you can or can't tell what the main account is. The purpose of filing reports on those pages is to have administrators and other users look at the reports and try to make sense of it all. Have a look at those two noticeboards, read the info at the top and let me know if you have any questions. Ioeth _{(talk contribs friendly)} 17:56, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Spanish Empire map

An animated map seems like a good idea, Ogre. It hadn't occurred to me.

I read part of the discussion at Commons and will go back for more in a day or two. I'll also look into unified login.

All the best! SamEV (talk) 04:14, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Mesta`

I appreciate your looking into this for me ... I can read Spanish but frankly English sources are much easier. Thanks! Slrubenstein | Talk 15:16, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Warnings

Please don't give users a warning message for each infraction you perceive. The purpose of warnings is to tell someone their actions are inappropriate and to give them a reasonable chance to modify their behaviour. They should receive a second and subsequent warning only if they've ignored the first. This edit is ludicrous; you're starting with "welcome but" and proceeding to "final warning" without any edits in between. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 17:17, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Mesta

Thanks!! Slrubenstein | Talk 21:30, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Animated Map

Hi there Ogre. I gather you are planning on resolving disputes about this Spanish Empire map with an animated one. May I ask what you intend to do exactly? Thanks The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick ^t 17:43, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Maria Pia of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha Braganza

Hello. I cannot understand why you do you want block me, if I just publish information based on books, documents or other sources (like genealogic trees). I guess you are a supporter of the false pretender Duarte Pio but, in that case, I really recommend you to read more books about the Portuguese dinastic subject. And you should also read the decisions of the "Consejo del Estado" (of Spain) about Maria Pia and her descendants. She was recognized as the real and legitimate pretender from Portugal. If you want continue supporting and advertising false pretenders... ok, continue do that. But publishing lies on Wikipedia, in my opinion, is not the best way to do that. Thanks for all attention. 84.90.92.195 (talk) 14:03, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

if you have time

If you have time, and you look t this? here. Thanks, Slrubenstein | Talk 03:04, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Help @ Spanish Empire

Hi there Ogre... haven't heard from you in a while. Your help would be appreciated at Spanish Empire - the regular sockpuppet crowd is trying to do their regular thing again.... The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick ^t 01:18, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Spanish Empire

Hi there Ogre. I was wondering whether you'd left the project for good, but you seem to be back. There has been a bit of a coup d'etat at Spanish Empire in your absence! The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick ^t 10:00, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Bendigamos

In this article, you reference the nusach of Az Ya Shir. Is there a copy of the nusach that could be linked to? I'd link to it myself, but I'm not sure of the nusach you're referring to, as my shul is the mumbling sort when it comes to Az Ya Shir.

-- Batshua (talk) 21:54, 25 December 2008 (UTC)