User talk:JohnCD

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January 2010

Question

Almost two years ago, you participated in the deletion discussion of the Otis AFB F-94C Disappearance page here. I've finally gotten around to fixing it to something worth while, so I was wondering if you would be willing to take a look at it here before I upload it to the main space. Thanks. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 19:48, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

That takes me back a bit! I'll look at it, but it'll be a day or two before I have time. The two hurdles it will have to pass are (a) is it different enough from last time to escape WP:CSD#G4, and (b) is it good enough to pass a new AfD. Another good person to ask to look at it would be Sandstein (talk · contribs) who closed the AfD last time. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 20:00, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Have you had time to look in the past week? Kevin Rutherford (talk) 02:24, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

I'll probably move it to the article space soon after I pass it by Deletion Review, so any help will be appreciated. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 02:48, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for the review. I didn't even know that that page existed. I guess I might as well start fixing it now. 23:37, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

February 2010

Political candidates

Hi there. I noticed you participated in the Articles for Deletion discussion for Graham Jones (politician). I have started a discussion regarding a consensus position for candidates in legislative elections (by way of amending WP:POLITICIAN, in case you are interested in putting forward your views there. --Mkativerata (talk) 01:59, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Excellent - we certainly need that. I will contribute there. Thanks. JohnCD (talk) 09:45, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

User:MaxWeberJr

Hi there. There's little chance of you remembering this, but you were involved in this AfD for an article called Functional Temporalism, an article whose author (User:MaxWeberJr) later admitted was a hoax (see here). I e-mailed Black Kite with some concerns about this user, but it appears Black Kite has now retired. Anyway, MaxWeberJr has appears to have attempted to create another hoax with this edit, which was promptly undone. You're an admin, so I was wondering if you felt that any action was necessary, or whether it would suffice to simply keep an eye on him. -- Lear's Fool (talk | contribs) 11:23, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

By the way, did Black Kite forward my e-mail to you? If not, let me know, you may find it useful. -- Lear's Fool (talk | contribs) 11:24, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Ha! I remember Functional Temporalism well, in fact I have been meaning to ask you how you first came across it. After it was admitted as a hoax, I rather kicked myself for wasting so much time explaining why we needed sources. Also, I remembered later that I had encountered the other defender before, when I tagged an improbable-sounding historical article of his as a hoax and he was extremely, and uncivilly, indignant before graciously accepting an apology and saying he would rewrite with sources - which of course, he never did. Reference here. I meant to ask you if thought those two were the same person. No, Black Kite did not forward your email, and I would be interested to see it. As far as the latest hoax goes, I don't think any action is necessary beyond keeping an eye: if warned that he is under surveillance he will just start a new account, and if he does nothing more serious that that we needn't worry. I have been to Oodnadatta, a one-horse town in the deep outback whose only distinction was as a station on the old narrow-gauge railway to Alice Springs; as that line has been abandoned, Oodnatta must by now be even less than one-horse. JohnCD (talk) 20:11, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Sure. I'll forward the e-mail to you, I'm sure it'll explain a lot. How should I go about doing that? -- Lear's Fool (talk | contribs) 22:13, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

I figured it out. It should be in your inbox. Thanks! -- Lear's Fool (talk | contribs) 22:18, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Interesting. Do you know anything of the other staunch defender at that AfD - in particular, do you have any reason to think he might be the same person? JohnCD (talk) 22:15, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Check your inbox. Thanks! -- Lear's Fool (talk | contribs) 06:13, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

OK, thanks, that's all I needed to know. JohnCD (talk) 17:17, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Damon Noone

John. Would you mind taking a look at the above new article and review the notability if you have time. Cheers - Galloglass 21:41, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

• (replied on his talk page) JohnCD (talk) 22:29, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for looking at it John. If I have time over the weekend I'll take it to AfD. Cheers - Galloglass 23:11, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Biographies of Living persons solution?: Projectification

As someone who commented on the BLP workshop I created, please review this proposal to see if it is something that the community would support.

Harsh constructive criticism is very welcome!

Better to figure out the potential objections now. I am looking to remedy any potential objections by the community.

Thanks. Okip (formerly Ikip) 03:22, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

ladism

why did you delete it? if we believe in it your actually being racist?! we created this group on facebook and over 2000 members have joined. Just giving you a hint. Thanks for your time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.254.223.65 (talk) 09:01, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

• What has racism got to do with it? New religions, philosophies, etc don't get an article until they are established enough to have "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." For more explanation, see WP:Wikipedia is not for things made up one day. JohnCD (talk) 21:53, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Dr. Vijai S. Shankar

In December you deleted Dr. Vijai S Shankar, please note that this has now been recreated as Dr. Vijai S. Shankar. Paste _{Let’s have a chat.} 12:11, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

article Black Goldendoodle and Black goldendoodle

These are redundant pages, please see article: Goldendoodle.

Suggest that these be redirected to Goldendoodle or deleted altogether. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.152.112.16 (talk) 12:18, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Please review and reinstate Mark Boardman

Hello,

As a big film fan there are many mentions on mark online, twitter and on Wikipedia.

I tried setting up a page for him though it was deleted. He is listed as a minor celebrity on twitter and is worthy of a page of his own. He is best friends with Dave Berry and Dj Talent and comperes the London film premieres and much more.

The page read:

Mark Boardman (born 1980) is a part time photographer and journalist and is most widely known for his numerous TV appearances as a chat show host on Homemade for T4 alongside his mate Dave Berry. [1] Prior to his appearance on T4 and the big interview with Steve Jones & Miquita Oliver, he has appeared on TV programmes including This Morning where he discussed ways to get A-listers on your side and the art of autograph collecting. For the BBC he filmed a documentary about London film premieres and discussed why celebs are so in demand, he then went on to meet Huge Grant and many other stars. A regular of Local radio and a celeb pundit and blogger. Since 2004 Mark has run his own celebrity / London film premiere website and has over 2500 followers on twitter including many celebs who enjoy his celebrity blogging and insights in action on the red carpet in Leicester Square. [2] Film premieres [3] are some of the most visited in the UK for the latest movie info and for chances to win free premiere tickets and back stage passes. Over 4000 autographs later (mainly A-list) his sites [4] Celebrity Quotes

Steve Jones on Mark " one of Tv's rising stars" June sarpong " Mark is gonna be a star" Dave Berry " the star of the show is Mark Boardman" [5] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Melody1000 (talk • contribs) 12:46, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

• (replied on his talk page: article wasn't deleted, only moved; but it has been PRODded) JohnCD (talk) 13:06, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks...

...For deleting that page, I think "brainfart" is the most accurate term to describe my misstep. Kind regards, Spitfire^Tally-ho! 13:14, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

It happens to us all! JohnCD (talk) 13:20, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

The Adventures of Bob and Jim

Im jsut curious as to why my article on "The Adventures of Bob and Jim" was deleted? Were the references not good enough or is it because the band isn't popular enough? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Togg (talk • contribs) 00:21, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

• (replied on his talk page) JohnCD (talk) 11:11, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Question/help on vandal.

Sorry to disturb you, but remember the Indonesian movie studio/anime vandal? He's now using 118.137.75.131 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log). That address was blocked before, but vandalism has restarted after that block expired. Same old, same old, BTW. Thank you. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 11:24, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Blocked again - 55 Hours this time. Thanks. JohnCD (talk) 11:29, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Shon Brooks

Hello Mr. CD

I just made some changes to this article as you were sending me this message. Please let me know if it is okay or if I need to improve it. Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Habeebah (talk • contribs) 17:47, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

• (replied on user's talk page) JohnCD (talk) 18:49, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Please bring this article back. It appears that some of the references may violate copyright protection. could you please bring it back so I can make the necessary changes. Thanks. {{helpme}} What references do your prefer?--Habeebah (talk) 00:32, 16 February 2010 (UTC) User: Habeebah

Clean up of user page

Thanks for the clean up of my page :) Ottawa4ever (talk) 20:48, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

My pleasure. I was checking his contributions before blocking him. JohnCD (talk) 20:52, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Gatineau Park Protection Committee

Check us out at http://www.gatineauparc.ca/home_en.html

differing ideas on inclusion of "sudden" re fuel control probs of Toyo

John,

I note that NPR has dropped the "sudden" in their newscasts, and I will try to contact them regarding this decision.

Sudden acceleration will search right to suddenacceleration.com where absolute fabrications exist:

""""""What is sudden acceleration?

Sudden acceleration is one of the most deadly automotive defects in history. It occurs when a car’s electronics cause the throttle to go wide open,...."""""

I consider this to be a bogus site--a trolling troop of plaintiff attorneys

I'll get back to you as I find further information on this, but so far, I've not seen any verification of full throttle--on a personal level, I did own a high output V-8 in the late 80s with an aftermarket cruise control that did not release every time from very high power settings. It was rather scary, but turning the ignition off solved the problem--and I was able to make proper modifications, promptly. (it was a fully mechanical setup, however)

HBG Homebuilding (talk) 15:46, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

I don't know anything about this - why have you sent it to me? JohnCD (talk) 15:59, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Ahunt's bad faith

Ahunt is misleading all Wikipedians: in no way does http://www.gatineauparc.ca/home_en.html constitue spam. The site informs the public about confirmed problems, with accurate and verifiable sources. It does not advertise. Ahunt is showing bad faith, poor judgement, and a lack of understanding of the rules. Ahunt interprets them to suit his POV. And that must be denounced by all honest men and women.

In what way, is http://www.gatineauparc.ca/home_en.html not a reliable source? The burden of proof is on Ahunt. --Stoneacres (talk) 21:56, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Hello

I was wondering what is the reason why you had deleted my article. Thank you.--Asam494 (talk) 22:38, 15 February 2010 (UTC)Alexis Samuels

• (replied on her talk page) JohnCD (talk) 22:55, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Deletion

Hello, You deleted my bio. I am "Levent Goktem". I wondered why did you delete it? Any hints? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.3.42.47 (talk) 15:32, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Probably the article did not indicate notability, a requirement to have a Wikipedia article, which is not a matter of subjective opinion but needs to be demonstrated by showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." This is explained in more detail at WP:Notability (people); please also read WP:Autobiography. If those do not answer your question, let me know the exact title of the page, or the date it was deleted: we have never had a page titled "Levent Goktem". Regards, JohnCD (talk) 18:06, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Benjamin Sanvee

Could you please reinstate this article? OTRS has received permission for it under ticket number 2010021210003139. I will add the tags as soon as I know the article is reinstated. Thank you in advance. Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 20:32, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch! Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 20:36, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

I was debating with myself what maintenance templates to add, but you've done a thorough job! I have lifted it out of the overcrowded "BLPunref" category by putting in the website it's copied from, and changing the tag to "primarysources". I did warn him on his talk page that the tone was unsuitable, and asked him to read WP:AUTO. Ah well... If I have time I might do a bit of cleaning up. JohnCD (talk) 20:49, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Fragulator

Hi there, you recently deleted a page I added and I wondered whether I could ask your advice about it? It's about the 'Fragulator', which is part of an index developed by a company called Fidessa. The reason I though the entry might be ok is that the index is increasingly becoming recognised as an industry standard, and is regularly quoted in the press, particularly in the FT. It's free to use, not part of the main Fidessa corporate site (there aren't any logos on the site at all) and I tried hard to keep the Fidessa name out of the entry as I didn't want it to be advertising. If having a seperate page on it is not acceptable, would it be worth be trying to extend the section that touches on it in the main Fidessa entry, or is it likely that that would not meet the standards either?

Many thanks in advance! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tradingcalc (talk • contribs) 11:39, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

• (replied on his talk page) JohnCD (talk) 12:39, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure Jackgoldcastle is just a clever troll.

Suggesting the Flintstones is a Nelvana cartoon, or that PBS Kids Bookworm Bunch party made up of old Hanna Barbera cartoons, or even that Corduroy is the adventures of a real bear?

I tried assuming good faith at first, but this guys edits are too stupid. HalfShadow 17:59, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks - our messages "crossed in the post". JohnCD (talk) 18:02, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Seen this before?

Hi JohnCD, I recently reverted an edit to Project Natal that seemed really familiar. [1] I've seen this message inserted into Microsoft-related articles by different IPs... is this a known long-term vandal? XXX antiuser ^eh? 20:05, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

I haven't seen that one: WP:LTA is where known long-term vandals are documented, but on a quick search of that for keywords from his edit I don't find him there. JohnCD (talk) 20:13, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Ah, okay. Thanks for looking anyway. XXX antiuser ^eh? 20:14, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of the article 'Naturoid'

Dear Sir, assuming that you are the ‘Deletion Administrator’, let me do some remarks on the deletion of the article ‘Naturoid’. From the deletion discussion (the part without very trivial remarks or even insults: give a look to the style of most ‘Delete’ comments) I understand that:

1_ the position of WPRules-interpreters is that of people strictly linked to a set of rules; 2_ the rules are consistent with WP final aim, that is that of 3_ accepting articles thatdeal with all what has happened and happens in the world provided it is already known. 4_ Such policy implies that WP will report even on well known theories of any sort – pranotherapy or magic included (by the way, I would be curious to know what the evaluators would have said having to discuss articles on this matter) but 5_ imposing to the WPRules-interpreters a great caution in accepting articles on subjects that claim to be rationally established but are not yet widely taken into account, on the basis of a fuzzy threshold of notability.

Being a regular, though cautious in turn, user of WP, I had different perception of it having read, some years ago, its noble mission statements.

It should be enough to read carefully the 'Impact and applications' section of the article for understanding that the term and the ‘theory of artificial’ (now of naturoids) have been used, quoted and discussed in many occasions.

This is not to maintain that my own theory is a universally known one, but only to defend the idea that a good, general encyclopedia shouldn't neglect theories at this stage of development.

I add some quotations that testify the diffusion of the term naturoid and that of ‘theory of artificial’, which was the former name I gave to the current theory.

The only reason explaining the little usage of the term ‘naturoid’ is just the shift I decided some years ago from the two above mentioned definitions. But this shift has been clearly described in the introduction of the article. Therefore, I cannot understand why WP doesn’t accept the article.

I add also my whole list of publications in English.

Thanks for your attention, best regards,

Massimo Negrotti University of Urbino

List of publications

IN ITALIAN (one in portuguese) Ethos-Techne Seminario de Filosofía de la Tecnología, Posgrado UNAM, http://jelinares tecnociencia.blogspot.com/2009_09_13_archive.html “...además de que les puedo enviar de una vez el e-book (muy bueno, en PDF) de Naturoids de Negrotti...” G.O.Longo, ‘Homo technologicus’, Meltemi, 2001, p 79 “La nozione di artificiale (Negrotti, 2000) ha a che fare con la riproduzione verismile e accurata, a vantaggio di chi deve servirsene, di oggetti o fenomeni ‘esistenti in natura’...” then, he reports on the concepts of ‘observation levels’, and ‘essential performance’ (see the article ‘Naturoid) from the book ‘Artificiale. La riproduzione della natura e le sue leggi’, Laterza, 2000 A. Ardigò, G. Mazzoli’Le nuove technologie per la promozione umana’, Angeli, Milnao, 1993, quotes Negrotti’s work at pages 20, 183, 234. G. Priulla, ‘Vendere onnipotenza. Metafore pubblicitarie, tecnologie, miti del XXI secolo’ (To sell omnipotence. Advertising metaphors, technologies, myths of the XXI century) quotes Negrotti’s book ‘La terza realtà. Introduzione alla teoria dell’artificiale. Dedalo, Bari, 1997 at pag. 145. T. Barni, Hematology Meeting Reports 2007; 1:(6), at pag. 31 “Massimo Negrotti nel suo libro Artificiale. La riproduzione della natura e le sue leggi (Laterza 2000) riporta che l’aggettivo “finto” secondo il Devoto/Oli definisce un prodotto ottenuto artificialmente,per imitazione… Chi definirebbe l’intelligenza artificiale una intelligenza finta? Così anche la definizione di artificiale come qualcosa che si contrappone al naturale, esce ribaltata dalla discussione che stiamo conducendo. T. De Mauro, Univ. of Rome, http://www.nuovoeutile.it/ita_creativita_linguaggio.htm ‘teorie e pratiche della creatività’ “Massimo Negrotti, studia da molti anni ciò che, in gran parte, determina nelle nostre culture il rischio di eclissi del corpo, l'immenso sviluppo pervasivo dell'artificialità (La terza realtà. Introduzione alla teoria dell'artificiale, Dedalo, Bari 1997)”. S. Pratesi, ‘Verso una bioetica ambientale?’ (Towards an environmental bioethics?) L'artificiale svela l'ontologia del cyborg, mostrandone il carattere naturoide (3), il suo essere parte della realtà naturale ma, contemporaneamente, totalmente altro, sua immagine riprodotta ma tendenzialmente modificata, altro dall'uomo (in quanto prodotto) ma parte dell'uomo (in quanto riproduzione).” “… l'artificiale, oltre una certa soglia di complessità, tende a trasformare o arricchire l'esemplare e le sue prestazioni sia per ragioni intrinseche al suo essere comunque macchina, sia perché approfondisce le caratteristiche isolate dell'esemplare dal contesto” ( M. Negrotti ,Artificiale, cit., p. 38). (3) M. Negrotti , ult. op. cit, p. 12. Di Giuseppe Rotolo,Giuseppe Primiero ‘Dall'artificiale al vivente. Una storia naturale dei concetti’ (From the artificial to the living. A natural history of the concepts), quotations at pages 56, 64 of the book M. Negrotti (ed) Capire l’artificiale, Bollati-Boringhieri, 1990, the published by Springer-verlag, Understanding the artificial, London, 1991. R. Diodato, ‘Estetica del virtuale’, (Aesthetics of the virtual) Bruno Mondadori, 2004, quotation at pag. 63 of the section at pages 48-53 of the Italian book ‘Artificiale. La riproduzione della natura e le sue leggi’, Laterza, 2000 M. Pugliara, ‘Il mirabile e l'artificio: creature animate e semoventi nel mito e nella tecnica degli antichi’ (The admirable and the artifice: animated creatures in the myth and the technology of antiquity) quotations at pages XXVIII, 3,if the Book ‘Artificiale. La riproduzione della natura e le sue leggi’, Laterza, 2000 V. Somenzi, Relazione per la LXIII Riunione della Società Italiana per il Progresso delle Scienze, 1995, discusses at page 2-3 Negrotti’s work as reported in the book ‘Artificialia. Clueb, Bologna, 1995. E. Tedeschi, ‘Vita da fan’, Meletmi, 2003, quotation of Negrotti’s book ‘L’osservazione musicale: l’artificiale fra soggetto e oggetto, (The musical observation. The artificial between subject and object) Franco Angeli, Milano, 1996. “...la più antica delle ambizioni umane, che si coniuga presumibilmente col desiderio di immortalità, è stata relegata in una regione culturale caratterizzata dal puro fantastico, e ciò spiega perchè progressivamente, il termine stesso di artificiale abbia assunto una connotazione così largamente negativa, tanto che ancora oggi stesso è sinonimo di ‘non vero’, ‘falso’, ‘mera imitazione’ o di ‘espediente’” from M. Negrotti, Verso una teoria dell'artificiale, Serie Prometheus, Franco Angeli, Milano, 1993.) IN ENGLISH (one in German) C. Beardon, ‘Computers, postmodernism and the culture of the artificial’ AI&Society, 8, 1994.”The phrase "the artificial" is being used increasingly to denote a new aspect or even a new form of society (e.g. Negrotti, 1991; Berleur, 1993) and warrants further examination.”. Quotation of Negrotti, M.. (1991) Understanding the artificial: on the future shape of artificial intelligence. Springer-Verlag, London. R. Harle, Leonardo, (Oct. 2003) “'Negrotti has succeeded in outlining a basic theory of artificiality which he methodically and systematically expands throughout the book' S. M. Ali, ‘The Nature of The Artificial: Augmenting Negrottian Artificiality with HeideggerianWhiteheadian Naturality’, Yearbook of the Artificial, Peter Lang, 2002. “Recently, Negrotti [1] has developed a sophisticated mimetic theory of the artificial grounded in three notions - observation, exemplar, and essential performance - that attempts to articulate the former.” “Recently, Negrotti [1] has developed a sophisticated mimetic theory of the artificial grounded in three notions - observation, exemplar, and essential performance - that attempts to articulate the former.” M. Morris, Cornell Uni (during a workshop) "Morris urged the panelists to define the Reef in a critical context beginning with definitions for a model versus a mock-up and offering the term “naturoid” as something crafted to imitate a natural object or process. Panelists discussed the project’s role as a pavilion representing a bundle of contemporary architectural interests including more traditional notions of craft." Robotic Librarian, http://mechanicrobotic.wordpress.com/2007/06/21/all-your-automata-are-belong-to-us/ “As Massimo Negrotti hypothesizes in his 2001 paper Designing the Artificial: An Interdisciplinary Study, “as a matter of fact, since the dawn of civilization, man shows a great, twofold constructive ambition: one, the Prometheus syndrome, aims at inventing objects and machines able to dominate the nature grasping its laws and adapting itself to them; the other, in turn, the Icarus syndrome, aims at reproducing natural objects or processes through alternate strategies,’ as compared to those nature follows.” Daniel Mittelholtz, Metacognitive Cybernetics: The Chess Master is No Longer Human! Univ of Saskatchewan, http://www.usask.ca/education/coursework/802papers/Mittelholtz/MC.pdf “Massimo Negrotti has stated that there is an urgency in defining theories in this field. “The need for a theory comes both from scientific and from practical interests. According to the former we have to understand the artificial in order to discriminate it fromthe purely technological activity and try to understand also their different anthropological roots and intellectual motivations. According to the latter, we have to understand the different requirements needed for the use of conventional machines as compared to the 'use' of artificial devices. The intensity of today's technology, both artificial and conventional, makes such theoretical work legitimate both on technical grounds and also because of its urgency socially and culturally.” (Negrotti, 1993). Gregor Schiemann, Nanotechnology and Nature On Two Criteria for Understanding Their Relationship HYLE--International Journal for Philosophy of Chemistry, Vol. 11, No.1 (2005), pp. 77-96. “"Nanotechnology […] can be oriented either to reproduce natural things or processes, exhibiting different features, or to produce new objects or materials" (Negrotti 2002, p. 4).” Gesine Lenore Schiewer: Zur Diskussion des Künstlichen in KI-Forschung und Ästhetik, Conference, Kassel, 2000 „Massimo Negrotti muß noch 1991 darauf hinweisen, daß außer Simons Ansatz aus dem Jahr 1969 kein wesentlicher Versuch unternommen wurde, den Begriff des Künstlichen als solches zu klären (Negrotti 1991, Preface). Er knüpft hier mit verschiedenen Publikationen, zuletzt Negrotti 1999, an. Negrotti bindet seine Überlegungen u.a. an einen "funktionalen Dualismus" R. Capurro, ‘Ethics and robotics’,2009, IOS Press,Amsterdam “There is a tension between technoid and naturoid artificial products [Negrotti 1995, 1999, 2002]. The concept of artificiality itself is related to something produced by nature and imitated by man. Creating something similar but not identical to a natural product points to the fact that anything to be qualified as artificial should make a difference with regard the natural or the “original” (Negrotti).” BOOKS by M. Negrotti (1991) (ed.) Understanding the artificial: on the future shape of A.I., Springer-Verlag, London. (1999) The Theory of the Artificial, Intellect Books, Exeter. (2002) Naturoids. On The Nature of the Artificial, World Scientific Publishing Company, New Jersey. (2002) (ed.) Yearbook of the Artificial, Methodological Aspects and Cultural Issues, Peter Lang Academic Publisher, Bern. (2004) (ed.) Yearbook of the Artificial, Models in Contemporary Sciences, Peter Lang Academic Publisher, Bern. (2006) (ed.) Yearbook of the Artificial, Cultural Dimensions o the User, Peter Lang Academic Publisher, Bern. (2006) (ed.) Yearbook of the Artificial, Kyosei, Culture and Sustainable Technology, Peter Lang Academic Publisher, Bern. PAPERS by M. Negrotti (1984), Cultural dynamics in the diffusion of informatics, FUTURES, London, XVI, 1. (1986), M.NEGROTTI, D.BERTASIO , How European A.I. people think. A survey, COMPUTER COMPACTS, Amsterdam, III, 3 4. (1986), M.NEGROTTI, D.BERTASIO , The Archimedes syndrome: cultural premises and A.I. technology K.S.GILL (ed.) Artificial Intelligence for society, Chichester, Wiley & Sons. (1986), ‘The A.I. people's way of looking at man and machine’, APPLIED ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, Washington, I,1. (1987), ‘The piping of the thought’, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE & SOCIETY, London, I,1. (1988), Editorial, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE & SOCIETY, Springer-Verlag, London, 2,2. (1993),'Towards a Theory of the Artificial', CYBERNETICS AND HUMAN KNOWING, The Royal School of Librarianship Odense-Kopenhagen, 2,2. (2000) 'The Culture of the Artificial' (M. Negrotti, Guest Editor), AI & SOCIETY, Springer-Verlag, London (14, 3-4, 2000). (1999) 'From the Artificial to the Art', LEONARDO, Isast-MIT press, 32,3. (2000) 'Designing the Artificial', DESIGN ISSUES, MIT Press, n. 32, april. (2002), 'On The Logic Of The Artificial', YEARBOOK OF THE ARTIFICIAL, 1, 2002, Peter Lang, Bern. (2004), ‘Model thinking', YEARBOOK OF THE ARTIFICIAL, 2, 2004, Peter Lang, Bern. (2004), ‘Naturoids’. From representations to concrete realizations, PRAGMATICS & COGNITION, John Benjamins, 12, 1. (2005), ‘Artificiality’, entry in C. Mitcham, ESTE (Encyclopedia of Science, Technology and Ethics), MacMillan, Farmington, Vol. I. (2006), ‘Systems, models and observation levels’, proceedings, International Workshop on Ecological Informatics of Chaos and Complex Systems, TUAT, Tokyo (anche in giapponese). (2007), ‘Information to control, knowledge to decide’, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE & SOCIETY', Springer-Verlag, London. 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Reply: in closing this debate I read carefully through all the arguments from both sides and concluded that the consensus was to delete, for the reasons I described. Using the words you yourself supplied during the debate: "Dear professor, your work is very interesting, but, due to WP rules, an article about it cannot be accepted in WP. Best wishes for your future work!"

If you wish to challenge the decision, you can file a request at WP:Deletion review. This process is like a legal appeal - it is not intended for continuing the same discussion, but for arguing that the debate was wrongly decided. If you choose to do that and need any assistance, please let me know. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 11:16, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Editing

When I edit, that whole group of boxes of everything- the nowiki button, the italic button, etc. doesn't show up. I using the MonoBook theme. How may I serve you? Marshall Williams2 Talk Autographs Contribs 02:32, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

In "My preferences", click the "Editing" tab, and about half way down make sure the "Show edit toolbar" box is checked. JohnCD (talk) 09:59, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

The box is checked but I still don't see anything. How may I serve you? Marshall Williams2 Talk Autographs Contribs 01:37, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Alongside that box, it says "(requires JavaScript)". Can something have gone wrong with Javascript on your system? Did you make any change or update to your system at the time the edit toolbar disappeared? If those suggestions don't help, you'd better try the WP:Help desk. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:48, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

NORMAPME article (deleted)

Dear Wikipedia editorial team:

I write to you as Press Officer of NORMAPME, The European Office of Crafts, Trades and Small and Medium sized Enterprises for Standardisation. An article related to NORMAPME in Wikipedia has been deleted for alleged copyright reasons, as this article is similar to one present on the NORMAPME website; as NORMAPME press officer I wish to inform you that we allow reproduction of this article on Wikipedia. NORMAPME members represent over 12 million enterprises in all European countries, including all European Union and European Free Trade Association (EFTA) member states; further to this, NORMAPME is engaged in a mission of public service that goes beyond its constituency, to bring information and services on standardisation to European SMEs with the support of the European Commission. As our services are open to all European SMEs (without fee or membership) we believe it is important to be referenced in Wikipedia, to reach and help more SMEs in standardisation.

Would it be possible to re-publish the article (attached) that was deleted last 17 february 2010, by user JohnCD?

I remain at your entire disposal if you need additional information,

Thank you very much in advance and best regards,

Rémi Orth Press Officer

NORMAPME a.i.s.b.l European Office of Crafts Trades and Small and Medium-sized Entreprises for Standardisation E-mail: press@normapme.com Website: http://www.normapme.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Guti jorge (talk • contribs) 11:17, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

• (replied on his talk page) JohnCD (talk) 12:39, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Peter Carr

I apologise for the page with Peter Carr, I started it but got interrupted before I got a chance to indicate why he is notable enough.

He is head quant at Bloomberg LP, and as such his models affect how a decent % of all derivatives are priced. Others have put him on lists of notable people in his profession, and he is Director of the math masters in finance at Courant. He's written a pile of highly cited papers, and won "best quant of the year" from both Wilmott Magazine and Risk Magazine

http://www.math.nyu.edu/research/carrp/

I'm relatively new as a contributor to Wikipedia (which is not an excuse for half finishing something), but have noticed that the coverage of quantitative finance is not as good as it could be, so have taken to improving it. I'm a headhunter for people who do this, probably the best known (though probably not enough to have my own page), and am qualified to do it myself. Being new, I confess to being vague as to the next step in this process. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DominicConnor (talk • contribs) 14:53, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

• (replied on his talk page) JohnCD (talk) 16:34, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Peter Carr

Thanks for the tips, and I shall go away and produce a properly referenced article, when I've done that should I come back to you ?

As I implied either, my work means I have a good knowledge of the work of notable people in that field, so if I could invite you to be especially tough in your comments, since I would like to increase the set of useful bios, but without adding to the backlog you mentioned; also I want my contributions to be good, else what's the point ?

DominicConnor (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 12:50, 19 February 2010 (UTC).

Request to delete user page

Delete user my page. --Epsonix (talk) 10:28, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

 Done There is no way to delete your actual account; if you don't want it, you can simply stop using it, but you can return later, if you like. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 10:36, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

k thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by BertramIT (talk • contribs) 15:06, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi

BertramIT (talk) 15:35, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Hey I didn't know if this was any better and i don't know if you would be able to unprotect -Runescape Lords Conquest-

If you look at what i have added

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BertramIT/Runescape_lords_conquest

as I have read the terms and conditions and I have tried to change it to include all the nessasary things

I would Be delighted if you would Just look at the page one more time at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BertramIT/Runescape_lords_conquest

and 

you would look and see if it is good enough to perswade you about unprotecting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runescape_Lords_Conquest

and then letting me copy it onto there —Preceding unsigned comment added by BertramIT (talk • contribs) 16:15, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Julian Mroue article

HELLO my name is Julian Mroue. You recently deleted a page about me that my friend created (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Mroue). I need it for a personal reason that, due to privacy reasons I would not like to disclose. If you could "un-delete" it for a day it would be much appreciated. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deadpool12 (talk • contribs) 17:59, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

 Done - userfied temporarily at User:Deadpool12/Julian Mroue. JohnCD (talk) 22:29, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael T Butler

That was quick! thanks! --Pontificalibus (talk) 23:13, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Request For Unprotection of Article

BertramIT (talk) 13:18, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

((Hello I would like to request for you to unprotect- Runescape Lords Conquest- Article as I have sufficient information to perswade you to see the importance of it: If you look at this site link and see what i would like to put on it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:BertramIT/Runescape_lords_conquest - FOR THIS TO THEN GO ONTO : en.wikipedia.org/Runescape_Lords_Conquest )) —Preceding unsigned comment added by BertramIT (talk • contribs) 13:13, 21 February 2010 (UTC)