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*'''Support'''. Looks good. <font color="blue">[[User:SlimVirgin|SlimVirgin]]</font> <small><sup><font color="red">[[User_talk:SlimVirgin|talk|]]</font><font color="green">[[Special:Contributions/SlimVirgin|contribs]]</font></sup></small> 22:26, 18 September 2010 (UTC) |
*'''Support'''. Looks good. <font color="blue">[[User:SlimVirgin|SlimVirgin]]</font> <small><sup><font color="red">[[User_talk:SlimVirgin|talk|]]</font><font color="green">[[Special:Contributions/SlimVirgin|contribs]]</font></sup></small> 22:26, 18 September 2010 (UTC) |
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The '''[[2009 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup Final]]''' was played on September 2, 2009, at [[Robert F. Kennedy Memorial Stadium]] in [[Washington, D.C.]] The match determined the winner of the [[2009 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup|2009 edition]] of the [[Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup]], a tournament open to amateur and professional soccer teams affiliated with the [[United States Soccer Federation]]. This was the 96th edition of the oldest competition in United States soccer. The match was won by [[Seattle Sounders FC]], who defeated [[D.C. United]] 2–1. Seattle became the second [[expansion team]] in [[Major League Soccer]] history to win the tournament in their inaugural season. D.C. United entered the tournament as the competition's defending champions. Both Sounders FC and D.C. United had to play through two [[2009 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup qualification|qualification rounds]] for MLS teams before entering the official tournament. Prior to the final, there was a public dispute between the owners of the two clubs regarding the selection of D.C. United to host it at their home field, RFK Stadium. As the tournament champions, Sounders FC earned a berth in the preliminary round of the [[2010–11 CONCACAF Champions League]]. The club also received a $100,000 cash prize, while D.C. United received $50,000 as the runner-up. |
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'''[[Oakwood Cemetery (Troy, New York)|Oakwood Cemetery]]''' is a [[nonsectarian]] [[rural cemetery]] in [[Troy, New York|Troy]], [[New York]]. Opened in 1850, it was the fourth rural cemetery in New York, operated by the first rural cemetery association created in the state. Oakwood is located in the [[Lansingburgh, New York|Lansingburgh]] neighborhood on {{convert|352|acre|ha}} of hilly land. It is known for both its dense foliage and rolling lawns, and has historically been used as a public park by local residents; many memorials include benches intended for visitors to rest. Oakwood is home to the [[Richardsonian Romanesque]] Earl Crematorium, the [[English Gothic]] Warren Chapel ''(pictured)'', 24 mausolea, and 60,000 graves. The cemetery was added to the [[National Register of Historic Places listings in New York|National Register of Historic Places]] in 1984. Oakwood is the burial place of educator [[Emma Willard]], financier [[Russell Sage]], and [[Samuel Wilson]], the progentor of the [[United States]]' national symbol, [[Uncle Sam]]. ([[Oakwood Cemetery (Troy, New York)|'''more…''']].)</div></div> |
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October 5th is the [http://www.ussoccer.com/News/Lamar-Hunt-U-S-Open-Cup/2010/09/Qwest-Field-to-Host-2010-Lamar-Hunt-US-Open-Cup-Final-Between-Seattle-Sounders-and-Columbus-Crew.aspx 2010 date] of the 97th edition of this annual sporting event. We haven't had a soccer related article featured on the main page since July 11 (the last day of the World Cup), so there should be no point deduction for a similar recently featured article. However, I think this only gets 2 points, 1 for the significant date, and 1 because this is my first nomination. --[[User:Skotywa|SkotyWA]]<sup>''[[User_talk:Skotywa|T]]''</sup><sub style="margin-left:-1.0ex;">''[[Special:Contributions/Skotywa|C]]''</sub> 16:41, 16 September 2010 (UTC) |
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This is my first (and only) FA and my first TFA nom. October 16 will be the 160th anniversary of the cemetery's consecration. That said, I think I have 4 points: 2 for decennial anniversary, 1 for my first TFA, and 1 for not being similar to another TFA within three months. I don't fully understand the similar article requirement so my interpretation may be incorrect. [[Funerary art]] (June 20) is reasonably similar, and that was within 6 months. '''[[User:UpstateNYer|<span style="color:darkred">upstate</span>]][[User talk:UpstateNYer|<span style="color:darkblue">NYer</span>]]''' 23:26, 18 September 2010 (UTC) |
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*'''Comment''' I know this isn't the right place for it, but I thought we didn't put sponsoring names into article titles. Shouldn't it be [[2009 U.S. Open Cup Final]]? The article itself is worthy, but I'm not a big fan of throwing a promotional name onto the main page. [[User:Resolute|Reso]][[User Talk:Resolute|lute]] 17:43, 16 September 2010 (UTC) |
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:Well, to be fair, [[Lamar Hunt]] is a person the event is named in memory of, and not a company paying for the name, which I would be opposed to putting up. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 17:49, 16 September 2010 (UTC) |
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::'''[[User:UpstateNYer|<span style="color:darkred">upstate</span>]][[User talk:UpstateNYer|<span style="color:darkblue">NYer</span>]]''' ← is confused by this comment. Sorry. :) '''[[User:UpstateNYer|<span style="color:darkred">upstate</span>]][[User talk:UpstateNYer|<span style="color:darkblue">NYer</span>]]''' 00:13, 19 September 2010 (UTC) |
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::Oh... uh, yeah. That's totally different then. Disregard my question. [[User:Resolute|Reso]][[User Talk:Resolute|lute]] 18:02, 16 September 2010 (UTC) |
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:Points look good. Date of consecration is, I assume, equivalent to date of opening. Death, be proud. Reminds me of a family story. My grandfather was a bigwig in NY City Judaism in the early part of the last century, and got in on the ground floor (so to speak) when Temple Israel opened a new cemetery in Westchester County, getting the plot you see as you come in the gates. And he, his brothers, and their wives would go up there on Sundays to enjoy the spot, and the wives would complain, to which the menfolk would reply, "It's just like any other sort of real estate, location, location, location." Hope they are enjoying it, they've all been there at least 20 years now ...--[[User:Wehwalt|Wehwalt]] ([[User talk:Wehwalt|talk]]) 23:55, 18 September 2010 (UTC) |
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'''Support''' as a one-point nomination. I don't think this should get the date significance point, given the talk page discussion on whether that point is being awarded too loosely. While this is a good date to run the article, it's not a significant date within the article. [[User:Karanacs|Karanacs]] ([[User talk:Karanacs|talk]]) 18:10, 16 September 2010 (UTC) |
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*'''Comment''' Wouldn't the most recent soccer-related article as today's featured article by [[Roy of the Rovers]] on September 11? I don't know if a comic strip would be considered similar to an actual soccer tournament though. [[User:Calathan|Calathan]] ([[User talk:Calathan|talk]]) 18:17, 16 September 2010 (UTC) |
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::Good point. I agree with the talk page discussion in principal, however it overlooks annual events like this or events that happen every 4 years (the Olympics or the World Cup) but not necessarily on the exact same month and day. All other factors being equal, this article seems more appropriate for October 5 than another random FA with no connection to the date. It is a weaker connection though. Also, it seems like "soccer" is pretty much the only thing [[Roy of the Rovers]] and this article have in common (and literally nothing else). I'm not a regular contributor here, so I don't know if that's too similar for the scoring system or not. --[[User:Skotywa|SkotyWA]]<sup>''[[User_talk:Skotywa|T]]''</sup><sub style="margin-left:-1.0ex;">''[[Special:Contributions/Skotywa|C]]''</sub> 04:05, 17 September 2010 (UTC) |
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:::There's nothing in the rules that prevents one from nominating an article for a date even if the connection is a little more tenuous. The rules only govern whether the nomination gets the date relevance point or not. I wouldn't consider Roy of the Rovers to be similar enough to deduct points. [[User:Karanacs|Karanacs]] ([[User talk:Karanacs|talk]]) 15:18, 17 September 2010 (UTC) |
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::::And no doubt the manga people would say that R of the R is not similar to them ... we have to deal broadly otherwise every article becomes ''sui generis'' and a category onto itself. Otherwise we get the US cup final one day, the comic the next, that awful soccer movie with Pele in it the third, all solemnly stating they are none of them similar to the other.--[[User:Wehwalt|Wehwalt]] ([[User talk:Wehwalt|talk]]) 20:50, 17 September 2010 (UTC) |
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:::::Agreed, but it's possible to be too broad as well as too narrow. A comic about a sport ''vs'' a sports tournament in a country in which the comic was never published have such a tenuous similarity that there's no real crossover; to me, it's like saying we shouldn't run [[Hoover Dam]] because we just ran [[Interstate 15 in Arizona]] and they're both in Arizona and made of concrete. – [[User:Iridescent|<font color="#E45E05">iride</font><font color="#C1118C">scent</font>]] 20:55, 17 September 2010 (UTC) |
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:::::I think you'll find I-15 is made of asphalt ... and the dam's only half in Arizona! So there! :)--[[User:Wehwalt|Wehwalt]] ([[User talk:Wehwalt|talk]]) 21:35, 17 September 2010 (UTC) |
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Here the community can nominate articles to be selected as "Today's featured article" (TFA) on the main page. The TFA section aims to highlight the range of articles that have "featured article" status, from Art and architecture through to Warfare, and wherever possible it tries to avoid similar topics appearing too close together without good reason. Requests are not the only factor in scheduling the TFA (see Choosing Today's Featured Article); the final decision rests with the TFA coordinators: Wehwalt, Dank and Gog the Mild, who also select TFAs for dates where no suggestions are put forward. Please confine requests to this page, and remember that community endorsement on this page does not necessarily mean the article will appear on the requested date.
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Currently accepting requests from July 1 to July 31.
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Sep 27 | Moors murders | 3 | Promoted a year ago, subject underrepresented, a similar article hasn't appeared in three months | 2 | 2 |
Sep 30 | Hoover Dam | 10 | 75th anniversary of dedication, nominator's first TFA | 8 | 0 |
Oct 1 | Ayumi Hamasaki | 3 | Promoted 21 months ago, a similar article hasn't appeared in three months | 5 | 0 |
Oct 2 | Battle of Gonzales | 2 | 175th anniversary of battle, which is significant for launching Texas Revolution | 4 | 0 |
Oct 16 | Oakwood Cemetery | 4 | 160th anniversary of consecration, nominator's first TFA | 1 | 0 |
† Tally may not be up to date; please do not use these tallies for removing a nomination according to criteria 1 or 3 above unless you have verified the numbers.
Nonspecific date (1 only)
Open.
Date requests (5 max)
September 27
Three points, as it was promoted a year ago (1 pt), the subject this article is in is underrepresented (law; 1 pt), and a similar article hasn't appeared in three months (1 pt). Secret Saturdays (talk to me)what's new? 23:31, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- Provisional oppose unless at least one of the authors of the article is happy for it to run. Both the authors have expressed concerns in the past at the disruption caused by having one of their articles TFA'd, and this is a topic that's likely to attract a lot of vandalism and POV-pushing. Yes, nobody owns articles, but there's no sense annoying people and potentially driving them away from Wikipedia, when there are hundreds of FAs written by people who want them to be TFA. – iridescent 10:43, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- This is an emotive article which concerns people still alive. For the sake of those families I would only support this nomination if it was guaranteed protection on the day. I don't want to see idiot vandals inserting offensive nonsense into a version of the article that might be read by a relative of a murdered child. Parrot of Doom 10:51, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- I assure you that once this article is listed at the month's queue, I will go to the WP:RPP for September 27. Secret Saturdays (talk to me)what's new? 04:25, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- I agree with Parrot of Doom. Malleus Fatuorum 11:09, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- I agree as well, and hope we don't repeat a TFA debacle involving a murder victim. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 11:19, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- This is an emotive article which concerns people still alive. For the sake of those families I would only support this nomination if it was guaranteed protection on the day. I don't want to see idiot vandals inserting offensive nonsense into a version of the article that might be read by a relative of a murdered child. Parrot of Doom 10:51, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- Comment. No opinion as yet, but the blurb is very short, at 986 characters, which makes Main Page balancing difficult. Another 200 characters would be ideal. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:22, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
OpposeIf the primary contributors don't want this to run, and the subject is still very sensitive, I don't think we should TFA this right now. Dabomb87 (talk) 21:37, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- I'm happy for it to run but only subject to the above caveat. Parrot of Doom 21:45, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- As the body of one of the children is still being searched for by his family it may arguably help if this is put on the main page, but not as the usual vandal magnet. There are real people with very strong feelings involved here. Malleus Fatuorum 14:14, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose Per above. Gage (talk) 04:06, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Support, because it's an excellent article, but provisionally dependent on the main writers agreeing and on pre-emptive protection so there's no messing around with it. SlimVirgin talk|contribs 14:18, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
September 30
Hey everybody, Wehwalt and myself wanted to welcome the world to the Hoover Dam story on the 75th anniversary of its dedication with the FA we worked on. 8 pts. This is my first TFA (1 pt), is in a underrepresented category (1 pt), is a vital article (2 pts), is being offered on the 75th anniversary of dedication (2 pts) and there have been no dams in the past six months (2 pts.)--NortyNort (Holla) 15:14, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
- Comment Points look good. The blurb is long, though (1470 chars); please cut it down to around 1200. Dabomb87 (talk) 15:22, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
- Done, cutting out the last sentence brings my count to 1,206 w/ spaces.--NortyNort (Holla) 15:26, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
- Support - can't really argue with eight points, nice date connection, interesting article. Bob talk 15:53, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
- Support. Can't believe no one has said it yet: Dam, this is a fine article. :) -- Cirt (talk) 17:38, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
- "rim shot" and support per prevous comments. Secret Saturdays (talk to me)what's new? 17:52, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
- Support Good work. Gage (talk) 19:02, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
- Support. This is a very well-done article and will be a good addition to the main page. Karanacs (talk) 13:33, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- Support. It would be nice to see a big engineering project on the main page. Malleus Fatuorum 14:44, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- Comment now 10 points claimed per new points rules (someone please confirm as I have an interest in the article).--Wehwalt (talk) 09:31, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- Support. I'm biased as I worked on this a bit, but I worked on it because I thought, and think, it is an excellent anniversary candidate and an iconic subject. — Mirokado (talk) 01:23, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- I should add that both Mirokado and NortyNort underplay their own roles in this article. I just did some rewriting and added some references, and had a lot of fun looking through the huge online image library maintained by BuRec.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:23, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Previous editors did a good job with it as well. My apologies if I left Mirokado out in the nomination blurb. While moving to Japan, I didn't see a lot of the contributions in the late stages of the FAC. That image library continues to help me out a lot.--NortyNort (Holla) 12:15, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- I should add that both Mirokado and NortyNort underplay their own roles in this article. I just did some rewriting and added some references, and had a lot of fun looking through the huge online image library maintained by BuRec.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:23, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Support. Interesting article, good date. SlimVirgin talk|contribs 14:19, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
October 1
Ayumi Hamasaki (born 1978) is a Japanese singer-songwriter and former actress. Also called Ayu by her fans, Hamasaki has been dubbed the "Empress of Pop" due to her popularity and widespread influence in Japan. Born and raised in Fukuoka, she moved to Tokyo at fourteen to pursue a career in entertainment. In 1998, under the tutelage of Avex CEO Max Matsuura, she released a string of modestly selling singles that concluded with her 1999 debut album A Song for ××. The album debuted atop the Oricon charts and stayed there for four weeks, establishing her popularity in Japan. Because of her constantly changing image and tight control over her artistry, Hamasaki's popularity extends across Asia; music and fashion trends she has started have spread to countries such as China, Singapore, and Taiwan. She has appeared in or lent her songs to many advertisements and television commercials. Though she originally supported the exploitation of her popularity for commercial purposes, she later reconsidered and eventually opposed her status as an Avex "product". (more...)
2 points. It was promoted over 21 months ago, the date is relevant to the article (it's the singer's birthday), and no singer has been featured on the main page in the last three months (the most recent was Michael Jackson). Also as a possible fourth point, I'm not a significant contributor, but I am making this request somewhat on behalf of the only significant contributor Ink Runner, who has not had an article featured on the main page before. mx3 話 17:36, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
- See the current discussion on talk on the nominator point.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:56, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
- Support for this date or as the non-specific October article. It is good to have greater visibility for our Asian topics. Karanacs (talk) 20:23, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Oppose. Would it be possible to find a different date for this article? I was hoping to nominate Battle of Gonzales, as Oct 2 is the 175th anniversary of that battle, and of the beginning of the Texas Revolution. Because only gets 2 points, for the date connection it won't surpass this one. Karanacs (talk) 13:33, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- Meh, I kind of did wait nearly a year to nominate it for today. It's still a significant date though, so it still gets a point for that. mx3 話 19:36, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Weak oppose. When Raul talks about tenuous date connections (see the current talkpage), I imagine "32nd birthday" is the kind of thing he has in mind, and given that there's another candidate with a non-tenuous connection, I'd rather see that. To me, this is better suited to the non-specific date slot. – iridescent 19:43, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Oppose. I'd rather see the 175th anniversary of the Texas Revolution on the main page than some pop singer's 32nd birthday present. Malleus Fatuorum 19:49, 13 September 2010 (UTC)- Support Nice to have a j-pop topic. Ayu is one of only a few Asian pop stars I recognize. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 22:58, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- Support, for the kind gesture of the nominator and the fact that it's a female biography about a non-Western topic. Bob talk 07:29, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Comment gains 3rd point per new points rules.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:32, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- Support- it would be interesting to see an article about a Japanese musician on the main page. Secret Saturdays (talk to me)what's new? 23:18, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
October 2
The Battle of Gonzales was the first military engagement of the Texas Revolution. It was fought near Gonzales, Texas, on October 2, 1835, between rebellious Texian settlers and a detachment of Mexican army troops. In 1835, several Mexican states revolted. As the unrest spread, Colonel Domingo de Ugartechea, the commander of all Mexican troops in Texas, asked the settlers of Gonzales to return a cannon that the army had previously given them. When the initial request was refused, Ugartechea sent 100 dragoons to retrieve the cannon. For two days colonists used a variety of excuses to keep the soldiers at bay, allowing up to 140 Texians reinforcements to gather. In the early hours of October 2, Mexican soldiers opened fire as Texians approached their camp. After several hours of desultory firing, Mexican soldiers withdrew. Although the skirmish had little military significance, it marked a clear break between the colonists and the Mexican government. The battle, considered to have been the start of the Texas Revolution, has been referred to as the "Lexington of Texas". The cannon’s fate is disputed. (more ...)
This year marks the 175th anniversary of the Battle of Gonzales, and thus the 175th anniversary of the beginning of the Texas Revolution, one of the more well-known Mexican civil wars, which had a huge impact in shaping the balance of power in North America. The battle itself was minor. For full disclosure, I'm hoping to have another article ready to nominate as TFA in April, for the 175th anniversary of the ending of the revolution, but it's a toss-up as to whether I'll get that finished or not. This nomination gets 2 pts for the date connection. Karanacs (talk) 20:53, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- Support. I support the acount of any battle in which one side takes a time out to eat watermelon and the other is under orders not to fight. Malleus Fatuorum 21:20, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- Support. --Jeffwang16 (Talk) (Contributions) (Email me!) 01:17, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- Support. Looks good. SlimVirgin talk|contribs 22:26, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
October 5
The 2009 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup Final was played on September 2, 2009, at Robert F. Kennedy Memorial Stadium in Washington, D.C. The match determined the winner of the 2009 edition of the Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup, a tournament open to amateur and professional soccer teams affiliated with the United States Soccer Federation. This was the 96th edition of the oldest competition in United States soccer. The match was won by Seattle Sounders FC, who defeated D.C. United 2–1. Seattle became the second expansion team in Major League Soccer history to win the tournament in their inaugural season. D.C. United entered the tournament as the competition's defending champions. Both Sounders FC and D.C. United had to play through two qualification rounds for MLS teams before entering the official tournament. Prior to the final, there was a public dispute between the owners of the two clubs regarding the selection of D.C. United to host it at their home field, RFK Stadium. As the tournament champions, Sounders FC earned a berth in the preliminary round of the 2010–11 CONCACAF Champions League. The club also received a $100,000 cash prize, while D.C. United received $50,000 as the runner-up.
October 5th is the 2010 date of the 97th edition of this annual sporting event. We haven't had a soccer related article featured on the main page since July 11 (the last day of the World Cup), so there should be no point deduction for a similar recently featured article. However, I think this only gets 2 points, 1 for the significant date, and 1 because this is my first nomination. --SkotyWATC 16:41, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Comment I know this isn't the right place for it, but I thought we didn't put sponsoring names into article titles. Shouldn't it be 2009 U.S. Open Cup Final? The article itself is worthy, but I'm not a big fan of throwing a promotional name onto the main page. Resolute 17:43, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Well, to be fair, Lamar Hunt is a person the event is named in memory of, and not a company paying for the name, which I would be opposed to putting up. Courcelles 17:49, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Support as a one-point nomination. I don't think this should get the date significance point, given the talk page discussion on whether that point is being awarded too loosely. While this is a good date to run the article, it's not a significant date within the article. Karanacs (talk) 18:10, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Comment Wouldn't the most recent soccer-related article as today's featured article by Roy of the Rovers on September 11? I don't know if a comic strip would be considered similar to an actual soccer tournament though. Calathan (talk) 18:17, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Good point. I agree with the talk page discussion in principal, however it overlooks annual events like this or events that happen every 4 years (the Olympics or the World Cup) but not necessarily on the exact same month and day. All other factors being equal, this article seems more appropriate for October 5 than another random FA with no connection to the date. It is a weaker connection though. Also, it seems like "soccer" is pretty much the only thing Roy of the Rovers and this article have in common (and literally nothing else). I'm not a regular contributor here, so I don't know if that's too similar for the scoring system or not. --SkotyWATC 04:05, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- There's nothing in the rules that prevents one from nominating an article for a date even if the connection is a little more tenuous. The rules only govern whether the nomination gets the date relevance point or not. I wouldn't consider Roy of the Rovers to be similar enough to deduct points. Karanacs (talk) 15:18, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- And no doubt the manga people would say that R of the R is not similar to them ... we have to deal broadly otherwise every article becomes sui generis and a category onto itself. Otherwise we get the US cup final one day, the comic the next, that awful soccer movie with Pele in it the third, all solemnly stating they are none of them similar to the other.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:50, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Agreed, but it's possible to be too broad as well as too narrow. A comic about a sport vs a sports tournament in a country in which the comic was never published have such a tenuous similarity that there's no real crossover; to me, it's like saying we shouldn't run Hoover Dam because we just ran Interstate 15 in Arizona and they're both in Arizona and made of concrete. – iridescent 20:55, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- I think you'll find I-15 is made of asphalt ... and the dam's only half in Arizona! So there! :)--Wehwalt (talk) 21:35, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- And no doubt the manga people would say that R of the R is not similar to them ... we have to deal broadly otherwise every article becomes sui generis and a category onto itself. Otherwise we get the US cup final one day, the comic the next, that awful soccer movie with Pele in it the third, all solemnly stating they are none of them similar to the other.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:50, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- There's nothing in the rules that prevents one from nominating an article for a date even if the connection is a little more tenuous. The rules only govern whether the nomination gets the date relevance point or not. I wouldn't consider Roy of the Rovers to be similar enough to deduct points. Karanacs (talk) 15:18, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Good point. I agree with the talk page discussion in principal, however it overlooks annual events like this or events that happen every 4 years (the Olympics or the World Cup) but not necessarily on the exact same month and day. All other factors being equal, this article seems more appropriate for October 5 than another random FA with no connection to the date. It is a weaker connection though. Also, it seems like "soccer" is pretty much the only thing Roy of the Rovers and this article have in common (and literally nothing else). I'm not a regular contributor here, so I don't know if that's too similar for the scoring system or not. --SkotyWATC 04:05, 17 September 2010 (UTC)