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I've commented on one of your old posts from a year ago. Themeparkgc  Talk  23:53, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

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1. Infobox journalist
2. More Indian maps
3. Hurricane "Dabs"
4. Template:Location map Wales Vale of Glamorgan

Hotels

Hi. I see you standardised the colour for some of the templates. They were intended to match the infobox labels. What was the problem? Not that I'm remotely bothered of course, as sometime I think the hotel infobox will meet its death anyway! The gold on maroon was sort of a hotel theme I got going... The worst culprits for colors I think are the US uni and basketball/sports nav plates...♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:51, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Right. My only issue was that I found them hard to read, and that while the maroon/gold combo was interesting, it wasn't really inline with WP:Deviations and WP:COLOR. Like I said in the edit summary, I was hoping you wouldn't mind. You are also correct about the eventual merger of the hotel box with the building box making it somewhat of a non-issue. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:08, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Not at all. Although if we do merge the hotel infobox I'd like to see infobox building converted to use pushpin_map for parameters and DMS, not map-type or whatever and decimal.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:47, 16 April 2011 (UTC) Any chance you could use a bot to add infoboxes to Template:Municipalities of Rio Grande do Sul? There are basically all one line stubs with not even an infobox! Also the nav template needs adding to the foot of Amazonas State articles like this.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:59, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

The map I added to Avenue Habib Bourguiba I had to br under title. Can you add a image_map parameter to Infobox street?♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:05, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Emailed. You don't use AWB though do you? I'd normally ask Rich for those Brazil edits but he's no longer in commission...♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:37, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

I do use AWB sometimes, but usually find it easier to just use perlWikipedia. I will check my email. I am going hiking today, so I don't know if I can do much for a bit. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 14:53, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Left another question

I left you a reply and another question at WT:AED#Question. Cheers. —James ^{(Talk • Contribs)} • 9:22pm • 11:22, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Afghanistan

See the map I made for Surobi District. I've added them to all the districts of Kabul Province. One problem though. Most of the Afghanistan provinces don't even have proper infoboxes at the moment. Only like Badakshan and few of the first ones are done I think. Most of them still have the ugly pink maps, including Kabul Province. I was wondering if you could ensure they all have proper infoboxes and once that is done I will locator maps to replace them all like Samangan Province. How does that sound? Alsi Iwant to TFD all of the templates in Category:Afghanistan district templates in favour of merging yhem into templates on the relative provinces. Kabul for instance had two templates redundantly.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:16, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Albania

• Color. Can you also standardise the others, its the odd one out now!!♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:26, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

I would, but alas, I was reverted. I will have to save that one for another day, unless someone reverts the reversion. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 23:43, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Well, I am to blame for starting off the red and white templates but there was a consensus with the other Albanian folk that this was desirable for Albanian articles.. Perhaps address it to the Albanian project again to change the colour to plain.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:00, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Infobox skyscraper

I notice that SporkBot has been madly replacing {{Infobox skyscraper}} with {{Infobox building}} despite the two still being significantly different. Shouldn't this be happening when {{Infobox building}} has been updated to incorporate the elements that were suggested at the TfD? --AussieLegend (talk) 04:14, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, all the content has been merged, so no information has been lost in the merger. The only thing that remains is to (1) update the documentation, and (2) add section headings. Is there information being lost in the merger, or are the differences that you are noticing cosmetic? Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 22:00, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

The section headings were certainly the most obvious aspect but, based on the comparisons on my user page there seemed to be a fair bit different, with "|year_highest=", "|year_end=", "|est_completion=", "|topped_out=", "|cancelled=", "|developer=" and "|management=" not appearing to have any equivalent in {{Infobox building}}. "Status" didn't seem to work at all. However, having populated a new infobox on the page today and poring through the documentation and code, it appears that some of these are covered by undocumented fields ("|image_size=" and "|management=" were two I quickly found) but I can't get "status" to work, except for displaying "Never built". Some of Infobox building's fields don't seem to work ("|groundbreaking_date=", "|completed_date=" and "|opened_date=" for a start) and the displayed field name for "|location_town=" needed to be changed to "Town or city", since the vast majority of skyscrapers are in cities. The documentation is definitely woefully inadequate. --AussieLegend (talk) 10:07, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

OK, I've now worked out that "Status" appears to be a manual setting in Infobox building, while in Infobox skyscraper it's automatic. --AussieLegend (talk) 15:23, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Right, the need to specify the "status" parameter and split the "built" into "start_date" and "completion_date" should be the biggest differences (see thread above). The documentation does need to be updated, and I will do this as soon as the bot has finished. I think there is still a fair amount of redundancy. The status field logic was particularly problematic. I found many buildings which were already built, but showing "proposed" or "under construction". The "year_end" parameter was being misinterpreted as "completion_date". As for the other fields, I have included the complete translation table being used by the bot below. Any other fields should either directly translate, or I will take care of them in a second pass which will identify all fields which are being used, but not in the template. I already did this before starting this current task, and had to clean up around 1000 articles. It's a very large task, and unfortunately, requires that I inspect each bot edit by hand, since there are some strange corner cases with splitting the "built" field, and incorrect usage of the "year_end" field. Some articles where showing the highest building in Midland, Texas or in Pakistan as being the highest in the world, for example. Let me know if I missed something. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 17:09, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

my @translate_fields = (
"building_name -> name",
"use -> building_type",
"contractor -> main_contractor",
"constructed -> completion_date",
"engineer -> structural_engineer",
"groundbreaking -> start_date",
"year_end -> highest_end",
"destroyed -> destruction_date",
"year_highest -> highest_start",
"demolished -> demolished_date",
"built -> completion_date",
"former_name -> alternate_names",
"est-completion -> est_completion",
"year_built -> completion_date",
"construction_period -> completion_date",
"height_stories -> floor_count",
"previous_building -> highest_prev",
"surpassed -> highest_next",
"surpassed_by_building -> highest_next",
"preceded -> highest_prev",
"completion_date -> completion_date",
"type -> architectural_style",
"parking_structure -> parking",
"height_of_concrete_section -> concrete_section_height",
"alternate_name -> alternate_names",
"topped_out -> topped_out_date",
"topped-out -> topped_out_date",
);

!infobox settlement

• {{Infobox San Juan Department}}. :-( 125.162.150.88 (talk) 07:13, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

I see. Will put it on the list. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 22:05, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Emailed.♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:13, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

• User talk:Diannaa#gratuitous colour fyi ;) 125.162.150.88 (talk) 02:14, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

  Okay, I started a thread on the talk page. The university navigation boxes are almost all colored. By the way, see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Professional wrestling. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 03:04, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

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Need your help

There are two long-standing template-coding tasks. I consider them important to the point of coding myself, but per inexperience, this would kill too much time (and break something). I've asked one at WP:VP/T, but it went nowhere. Redirect me if you have not time for this.

Task 1 (easy). Chemical elements are core WP articles. Most of their data are listed in the infobox ({{Infobox element}} via a dedicated template, like {{Infobox copper}}) and are taken from chemical elements data references. It is important to link this page because most users don't understand where the data came from, and it used to be linked at the bottom, using {{Elementbox_footer}}. Then {{Infobox element}} had a major update and now uses {{Navbar}} as a footer. This gives the familiar "v d e" toolbar, and this toolbar is certainly useful in linking to the edit button, but we do need to relink the references.

You might suggest a better solution. I thought to add an "r" button to "v d e", by replicating and tweaking the navbar template.

Okay, how's this? We may need a subtemplate of Template:Infobox element to get the spacing to look completely the same. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 04:52, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Great (simple solution with no need to edit templates for individual elements). Spacing looks Ok on my PC and is certainly not worth fixing. Materialscientist (talk) 05:21, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Task 2. I was thinking to add a river flow chart to an article from French wiki and realised that we don't really have templates for producing a chart from a table, except for maybe {{Climate chart}}, which is too specific. Obviously, charting templates are very handy for updating data. Ideally, it should be a basic template giving a choice for axes, titles, and other formatting, but even copying the French template would already be a step in a right direction. Materialscientist (talk) 02:10, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Yes. The problem with that particulate template on the FR wiki is that it is completely inaccessible to the visually impaired. However, we should be able to cook something up which can be parsed by a text-based browser. There are some examples of graphs at Wikipedia:Graphs. One that has been approved by WP:Accessibility is Template:Bar graph. We could potentially make a vertical version of this one, but the horizontal one works well, since for a text browser, you just get the list of items with the numbers, which is the essential information. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 04:57, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

This seems like an open field, which is worth developing and making known on WP. Scientific software combines various graph types, but perhaps it is easier to have a template for every type. Horizontal graphs like {{Bar graph}} are rare. Vertical bar graphs are much more common, but line graph, scatter graph and pie chart are also rather popular. (and there are also histograms :-) X-scale could be manual or autogenerated (to simplify input). The pie chart seems already set up, more or less. Thus my first choice would be to have (i) bar graph with X-scale fixed as months (ii) line (or/and line+symbol or/and bar) graph with the X-scale either taken from a table or generated from 3 input values of start, end, step. Materialscientist (talk) 05:21, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Re:Template:Location Map

Hi, I'm hoping you can take a look at the sandbox version of {{Location map}}. Chris Cunningham did some great work and polished the result a bit. The discussion is here.  –droll [chat] 15:52, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Looks good. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 14:17, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Infobox buildings merge from hotels and casinos

Are you planning on merging {{infobox hotel}} and {{infobox casino}} into {{infobox building}}? Better to have someone familiar with the template give it a go. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:22, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

At some point I think its the most sensible thing to do, although I admittedly like the suitably tacky/exquisite coloring scheme we have going for them.!♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:13, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

I could look into it. There are still some loose ends to tie up with the skyscraper merger. I currently have a bot assisting by checking all 6625 transclusions for repeated field names, missing field names, etc. After that I need to update the documentation. It's going to take a bit of time. Luckily there are far fewer (around 1000) using the hotel and casino box. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:38, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Well, we could keep the color on the sub headings. :-) Vegaswikian (talk) 05:12, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Maybe you could programme the template to type=hotel or type =casino and it display the gold/maroon headers. I just think they are veyr appropriate for casinos and hotels. That would be my only objection to merging if we lost that.♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:58, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

When you run the bot can you please replace map_type with the standard pushpin_map parameter and replace any decimal coordinates and map type and make them standard pushpin and DMS?♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:54, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

There is |coordinates_format=dms. I could change |map_type= to |pushpin_map=, but we would need to add that parameter first. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 14:17, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Seeing as you're an admin...

Care to lock all the wrestling templates until the end of the discussion? I really don't care which state you leave them in, but my contributions is basically a list of them. Crisis.EXE 01:35, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

I could, but I'm not exactly impartial. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 14:18, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Duplicate parameters in Infobox landform

Hi, Can you help at Template talk:Infobox landform#Duplicate parameters, please? Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 07:52, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

It looks like Droll is on it. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 14:18, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Antarctica

Plastik, can you add a pushpin map to Lake Burton, Antarctica using Template:Location map Antarctica?♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:59, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Dearest Plastikspork I am keen to promote this to GA like Lake Untersee but it needs a map, when you have a chance can you add a pin map?♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:23, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Added. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 14:18, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

I mean in the infobox...♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:12, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Checking my talk page archives, you have asked me to add a map (or location map) feature twice. Both times the discussion went nowhere. I believe conclusion from the last discussion was that you were going to investigate when there is such pointed wording in the documentation discouraging the inclusion of location maps. I have no problem adding it, but I would suggest starting a thread on the talk page for {{Infobox lake}}, waiting to see if anyone objects, and then if not, we can add it. Given the wording in the documentation, it seems as though there must be some good reason for not having it. In the interim, I see no problem with just putting the location map right next to the section of the article where the location of the lake is being discussed. I know you like your maps in the infobox, but in this case, I don't think it's that big of a deal. However, going forward, we can always pursue adding an option to the lake box if there is consensus to do so. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:25, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Very strange that you think it would cause a problem, but I've addressed it on the infobox talk page.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:33, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

I wouldn't say it is strange that I think it would cause a problem. I would say that it is strange that the template documentation says it would be a problem: "avoid maps showing only the location of the lake". Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 14:07, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Ah, I see. I wonder why that is then? Because surely a pin of where the lake is in Antarctica is better than nothing?♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:42, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

A mission for SporkBot?

Hey Plastikspork, do you think your bot would be able to handle the possible task at hand here? Either 6,000 external links need to be tagged or removed.--NortyNort (Holla) 22:22, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

I could, but it would be better to ask User:NoomBot, who is approved for link replacement. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 14:13, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Yobot blocked for updating infoboxes

User_talk:Yobot#Blocked_again. Please comment. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:26, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

Hello Plastikspork. Thanks for your explanations on two different template pages tonight. Your note about actors changing size in a film made me think of things like The Incredible Shrinking Man. I also pondered on various versions of Gulliver's Travels and then realized that wasn't right as Lemuel stays the same size and it is the groups around him that are different. Odd thoughts like that keep life interesting. Thanks for being the spur for that. Cheers and happy editing. MarnetteD | Talk 02:24, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Afghanistan

Hi. I have a download request. Would it be possible for you to access the PDF/adobe you find at the top of google searching OCHA Afghanistan Settlements Index and download it onto wikipedia but in a fashion that puts the districts /and or provinces in alpha order so we effectively we have a list of villages under each district/province? Is just the vast majority of articles don't know what district it is and the old geonames out of date at times asi found out that some in Sar -i- Pol province used to be in Jowzjan province. As for Burma, I believe Hebrides is planning on creating them himself in May..♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:06, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Infobox

It seems you're a complete douche. If you hadn't noticed, I had worked on the Infobox on my own space, got the Template working and had started implementing the changes on the pages of the various Popes, and was about to move on to all the various cardinals, archbishops etc. Moreover, I had placed a thing on the template talk space, but there was no reply so I went ahead and did it. Ultimately, the template was doing what it needed to do: Displaying the coat of arms of the said Christian leader underneath their photos. Sure, there were a few glitches on the way, but it was fixed. So how you can call it malformed, I do not know. Surely if something is doing what it is meant to, it's properly formed.........? Rather than just being 'lock' happy, why don't you help other editors out and perhaps fix the errors that you seem to see in their work - or is this not the collaborative effort that the creator intended it to be any more? Has this suddenly become Plastiksporkipedia? Mangwanani ^(talk) 19:46, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Moreover, it would be good to look at the actual edits across the whole board, rather than just an editor is making a few edits and there may be a few glitches along the way. Try crediting people with intelligence for once that they might actually sort the mess out. Mangwanani ^(talk) 19:48, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

I have looked at your recent edits in template space. Appears to be quite a bit of stabbing in the dark. Please let me know (or ask at WP:VPT) if you would like some assistance. Calling me a "douche" is not very productive, is it? Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 20:05, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

TfD

Not sure if someone has mentioned this to you before, but the templates in this discussion are still tagged as being discussed as TfD, while you closed the discussion back in January with a consensus to merge. Could you please clean that up? Thanks, Logan _Talk ^{Contributions} 23:15, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

{{NavigationRepYears}} as well, it seems. Logan _Talk ^{Contributions} 23:18, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

I am about ready to log off now. You can feel free to replace the TFD tags with {{being deleted}} or some {{tmbox}} or whatever. So long as they are in the holding cell, we won't forget about them. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 23:21, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Template:DentalFormula

There is an issue with Template:DentalFormula which you might be able to solve. It involves the template not accommodating dashes, although it seems it ought to per MOSDASH. I've just looked at the template and don't see how to do it myself. Please refer to User_talk:GregU#Dash_Script_Bug_-_DentalFormula. Cheers, --Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 02:15, 1 May 2011 (UTC)